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Comments by "Home Account" (@importantjohn) on "Vaccine scepticism and the Brexit deadline - The Week in 60 Minutes with Andrew Neil | SpectatorTV" video.
@Simon John Great, so now we have to base our decisions on hearsay instead of published facts.
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A Global pandemic damaged the Global economy, it's not a 'UK' thing. We lost 10% of the economy, but we get it back over the next two years. It will be an irrelevant blip in the scheme of history. No evidence of increased suicides . Being paid while not having to work and binge watching netflix whilst ordering takeaways does not tend to cause PTSD. We sacrificed a bit of cash to save hundreds of thousands of people. It is indeed, our finest hour.
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Zero evidence of increasing suicide. To quote BMJ ‘Reports suggest either no rise in suicide rates (Massachusetts, USA11; Victoria, Australia13; England14) or a fall (Japan,9 Norway15) in the early months of the pandemic. ‘ https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352
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You could be dead by then, and possibly take others with you. If people had your view to the TB vaccine then hundreds of thousands more people would of died.
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@blackphilip8936 Complain to the peer reviewed article in the British Medical Journal that I quoted for you. If you have information to the contrary, please quote. The facts are not interested in your feelings.
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@Jason Kearney economies around the world have collapsed irrespective of lockdown measures. Sweden will shrink 6% with no lockdown. Even if the UK government did nothing, our economy would of collapsed, albeit slightly less. UKs unemployment is the lowest in Europe
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@Simon John All the information and data is available, its just you refuse to accept it and instead cling to conspiracy theories or renegade science. The virus kills 10% it infects over 80 and about 5% over 70, about 2% over 60. It it hospitalises about 5% of those under 50, even if it doesn't kill them.
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@shanimcmillan6298 absolutely. The media has been captured by the Left who want to undermine the democratically elected government as they do not agree with it politically.
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@Jason Kearney you are falling for the whataboutery fallacy. Covid deaths are in addition to TB deaths, not instead of.
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because their absolute infection rate is still too high (filling up the hospitals).
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@nickbamber268 no, they have published the criteria. Above 50 and medically ill
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No one is asking the young to take the vaccine. It’s for the old and sick
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@Jason Kearney It's not the main reason, people practice social distancing and are reducing social contact in Sweden, even though it's not mandatory. Therefore economic activity is down. The same would apply in the UK even if we had no mandatory restrictions. Our exports would also be hit (the UK is the 8th largest exporter in the world) regardless of domestic restrictions. Our economy would be -6% to -7% even with no restrictions. There is no easy answer to this pandemic, they are only bad outcomes.
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Bagster 1866 vaccines have been in use for over 100 years. Almost every adult has had a vaccine of some type. They are extremely safe, but of course nothing is risk free
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martin corderoy great, so let’s never take any medication ever again because of the issue with a drug 50 years ago. What a devastating argument against Vaccines, not
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martin corderoy I bet you had vaccines as a child
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@Simon John You do realise almost everyone alive in the UK has already has a vaccine for something?
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@Simon John The concept of the new vaccines are very similar to the vaccines we have been using since the 1960s: the immune system thinks the vaccine is a virus so launches an immunological response. But you have no actual viral infection. Job done, your immune system has prepared itself for a future real attack of COVID19 (not the vaccine, which is only a trigger). Anyway, if you don't like 'new things' go with the old fashioned Oxford vaccine. I think they are giving out a free filofax with every shot, so you can avoid all this modern nonsense.
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@fireman-phil7307 healthy young people all over the world get vaccinated for Diphtheria, Pertussis, BCG, Polio, Tetanus, Measles, Rubella so why not COVID19?
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@geoffreystuart7458 yes, because destroying the economy is always a vote winner
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@phughes4224 It's a question based on ignorance, see below.
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5% of cases are so severe they require hospital admission (of all age groups). If you are above 70 you have an almost 10% change of dying if you catch the virus.
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@johnneville403 Who needs objective data and evidence when we have your elderly mother's opinion about one ward in one hospital. Look up the phrase 'anecdotal evidence'
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@randomroses1494 the figures I quoted were published and peer reviewed in the past few weeks. Please note the government has no figures, it’s not a medical research organisation. For gods sake man, do your own bloody research and stop copying and pasting conspiracy crap off Twitter. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/report-34-ifr/
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You may not agree with most of the scientific experts and the government, but to refuse to accept almost all of the scientists believe we are doing the opposite to what you claim, saving people by restricting social contact, is wilful ignorance. The collateral damage caused to the economy is a price worth paying to save hundreds of thousand of lives. You also make the mistake of blaming covid restrictions for the economic damage, when most of the impact would occur even if the government did nothing.
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@anthonybartlett6924 Basically you have a conspiracy theory. I prefer to go on facts, logic and reason.
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@Kefuddle we are not in lockdown. 90% of the economy is operating. Reducing social contact reduces virus spread. It’s epidemiology 101. Calm down, it’s going to be fine. There are worse things in life than not being able to get pissed in a pub for a few months.
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