Comments by "Frankie and Benjy Mouse" (@boterlettersukkel) on "Why People Think the World is Flat" video.

  1.  @nahvexriddims4478  To bad that ONLY the skyline is visible on that photo. So your claim about ALL CITY is BS. A lot is missing. And, btw. geocentrics still have a globe . It is just in the middle instead of the sun.
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  2.  @nahvexriddims4478  BTW, there is no such thing as a flat earth theory. Scientific theories have evidence and tests. Flat earth doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis.
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  3.  @nahvexriddims4478  To bad that that statement was made 100 years ago. We have improved sinds then. Now, explain to me how a mechanical gyrocompass is able to find true south.
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  4.  @Globeisahoax  Yes, you are spesjul, short buss spesjul.
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  5. To bad that I have my own observations and tests. You on the otherhand have only YT BS from conmen. So give me you best argument for a flat earth. And show me a map of the flat earth that conforms to reallity and can be used for navigation. You know navigation? The art to get from A to B over an ocean??? Yea, you hit the jackpot with a mariner. You have no way to prove a flat earth against navigation.
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  6. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. You know in the end?? You mean when you are dead and in heaven? Your god is going to tell you? Religious BS. Bye.
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  7.  @tbrown3356  The moment you start to use the right calculations the math checkes out The curve calculator from Walter Bislin has settings for refraction. http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator We still have a globe. The VISIBLE horizon still obscures the rigs under NORMAL conditions. The close one is missing 2 meter, The far one is sinking in the sea. Looks like 10 meter is missing. Sure you want to persue this silly argument the same as gas pressure next to atmospheric pressure?? Denying the pressure gradient between sea level and the top of Mt Everest??? The silly CONTAINER BS??
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  8. The bigger question is, DO they THINK?
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  9. You mean YOU have not seen the curvature. Do you ever OPEN your eyes?? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  10. Every version of science denial is harmful.
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  11. :) lol.
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  12. Same as all navigators on ships, ZERO!!
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  13. Sorry kid ut we know We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  14. So you wasted 5 years watching video's from conmen and never tested any of their claims. Got it.
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  15. No need to go to space. Go to sea. See the world. Learn a few things. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  16. And you are going to show us that data?? Or is it all just the BS from Dubay???
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  17. There is no flat earth theory. It even fails to be a hypothesis. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  18. Nope there is a mention in an encyclopedia about a mountain that is shaped as a dome on Antarctica. Try again.
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  19. All oceans curve at one degree per 60 nautical miles. Flerfs never measure things.
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  20.  @yestervue4697  You started talking about planes. You then better learn how and why they can fly before making comments over it. But we already determined you are just a troll so, you are done here.
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  21. You are braindead, Matt.
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  22.  @tbrown3356  " distance to the horizon cannot be farther than 1.225 times the square root of the observer height (q)" CALCULATED horizon.. That is without atmosphere. Are you still breathing??? If you read this than you are breathin so there is an atmoSPHERE!!!!!! What you see is the VISIBLE/OBSERVABLE horizon. There are some phenomena that happens in the atmoSPHERE when warm air is above cold water. It is call refraction. It is a well known phenomena that EVERY sailor is familiar with.. Take a look at your black swan. There is not a straight line in that distorted photo. If you think that is the normal way a rig looks, there is something wrong with you. Light is refracted as it passes through the atmosphere. When refraction is normal, objects appear slightly elevated, and the visible horizon is farther from the observer than it otherwise would be. Since the effects are uniformly progressive, they are not apparent to the observer. When refraction is not normal, some form of mirage may occur. A mirage is an optical phenomenon in which objects appear distorted, displaced (raised or lowered), magnified, multiplied, or inverted due to varying atmospheric refraction which occurs when a layer of air near the Earth's surface differs greatly in density from surrounding air. This may occur when there is a rapid and sometimes irregular change of temperature or humidity with height. If there is a temperature inversion (increase of temperature with height), particularly if accompanied by a rapid decrease in humidity, the refraction is greater than normal. Objects appear elevated, and the visible horizon is farther away. Objects which are normally below the horizon become visible. This is called looming. If the upper portion of an object is raised much more than the bottom part, the object appears taller than usual, an effect called towering. If the lower part of an object is raised more than the upper part, the object appears shorter, an effect called stooping. When the refraction is greater than normal, a superior mirage may occur. An inverted image is seen above the object, and sometimes an erect image appears over the inverted one, with the bases of the two images touching. Greater than normal refraction usually occurs when the water is much colder than the air above it. If the temperature decrease with height is much greater than normal, refraction is less than normal, or may even cause bending in the opposite direction. Objects appear lower than normal, and the visible horizon is closer to the observer. This is called sinking. Towering or stooping may also occur if conditions are suitable. When the refraction is reversed, an inferior mirage may occur. A ship or an island appears to be floating in the air above a shimmering hori zon, possibly with an inverted image beneath it. Conditions suitable to the formation of an inferior mirage occur when the surface is much warmer than the air above it. This usually requires a heated landmass, and therefore is more common near the coast than at sea. When refraction is not uniformly progressive, objects may appear distorted, taking an almost endless variety of shapes. The Sun, when near the horizon, is one of the objects most noticeably affected. A fata morgana is a complex mirage characterized by marked distortion, generally in the vertical. It may cause objects to appear towering, magnified, and at times even multiplied. Source, The American Practical Navigator. edition 2019.
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  23. Navigation proves the globe.
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  24. They failed from the beginning.
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  25. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  26. Try again and bring EVIDENCE from reallity and not bs and philosophy. Your mind is to open. Your brain fell out.
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  27. He did. You can't debunk it. even this is to hard for you. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel.
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  28.  @Globeisahoax  When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  29. I often hit them with the American practical navigator, the list of port to port distances and the lists of lights for all lighthouses. They don't understand what they are shown and ignore it all.
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  30. Spare us the religious BS. Earth is a globe and flerfs are all dumb.
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  31. YT banned flat earth discussions?? WOW that is new. I see at least 3 per week and all flerfs rage quit. So where is this rule??? Or... let me guess... You are an angry flerf that feels the need to lie about everyhing. What did I win??
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  32. Come visit me. I have those photo's from Australia and New Zealand I just put them upside down in the photo books. I even have photo's of people sideways from Singapore.
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  33. Show some of that "real" science. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  34. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  35. How can somebody fall for the flat earth when it has no EVIDENCE ?
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  36.  @KangenAlec  < JUST A TROLL.
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  37. World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Oblate spheroid. Or are you going to claim it is a perfect sphere?
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  38. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  39. Sunrise, sunset, horizon, lunar eclips, navigation, Celestial navigation, Radio waves, the range of lighthouses, Undersides of clouds lit by the sun, etc.
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  40. You are just a coward that thinks hiding behind his religion is a smart move. Btw, don't build strawmen and claim that that is what I believe. You religion is the one that claims a god made everything from NOTHING .
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  41. Go troll somewhere else kid.
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  42. Funny that you say that because that is all what flat earthers do. Regurgitate what they hear from other flat earthers. I do not regurgitate anything I learned at school. I have my personal observations. Spending some years traveling the globe on planes and crossing oceans on ships have shown me the EVIDENCE for the globe. You don't have that. You have nothing.
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  43. Now prove it, kid.
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  44. What are lazers?
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  45. What NASA lies? There is still a sail race that circumnavigates Antarctica. The Vendee. Try again, kid Lying about it is not going to do it.
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  46. We are all aware of the BS in the bible.
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  47. There is no picture of your brain. You just imagine you have one.
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  48. Arguments from personal incredulity have no value. Try again when you have EVIDENCE for a flat earth. We are waiting for that some time now.
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  49.  @yestervue4697  Learn aerodynamics first before you make a fool of yourself again.
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  50. Try again and show me the EVIDENCE for that flood around neolithic monuments that are older than your silly flood.
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  51. So it is a geocentric flat earth?? OYG.. Still wrong, very wrong. You do not have a model.
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  52. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  53. And the earth is still a globe. No matter how much you cheat on your spouse.
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  54.  @bengrizzlyadams6187  So did i. Traveling all over the world , crossing oceans I have seen the evidence of the globe. I have measured it. It's a globe. Sailors checked this for a few thousand years. I checked it. PERSONALY
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  55.  @tbrown3356  Yep we use that calculator because it has the possibility to enter the amount of REFRACTION. it beats alot of othe calculators that don't consider that. It beats 8 inch per mile^2 by miles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  56.  @tbrown3356  Full description of our rotating globe as used for navigation, GPS etc. WGS84 ftp://ftp.nga.mil/pub2/gandg/website/wgs84/NGA.STND.0036_1.0.0_WGS84.pdf
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  57.  @tbrown3356  Hypothesis, If the earth rotates woe would be able to measure it with an interferometer. Experiment: get a laser gyro. It records output when I move it. ( dependent varible) It registers every movement it makes. I put it on the table and it starts to register a 15 deg drift. ( independent variable) conclusion. The table moves, the table is stationary on the earth, so the earth moves. THANKS BOB!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9p2Yrbp3xA
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  58.  @brucelebeau411  I have a better and older book than that bunk from Rowbotham. It is called The American Practical Navigator. The navigators bible, better known by navigators as THE BOWDITCH Links to the pdf's in the about section of my channel.
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  59. You mean, YOU will never know. That is because you are to lazy to research it.
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  60. Level doesn't mean flat.
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  61. So you are a racist flerf.
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  62. Light bend down over long distances. It is called refraction and is a well studied subject. It is the main reason mariners never use stars below 30 degrees over the horizon in sextant observation. Light is refracted as it passes through the atmosphere. When refraction is normal, objects appear slightly elevated, and the visible horizon is farther from the observer than it otherwise would be. Since the effects are uniformly progressive, they are not apparent to the observer. When refraction is not normal, some form of mirage may occur. A mirage is an optical phenomenon in which objects appear distorted, displaced (raised or lowered), magnified, multiplied, or inverted due to varying atmospheric refraction which occurs when a layer of air near the Earth's surface differs greatly in density from surrounding air. This may occur when there is a rapid and sometimes irregular change of temperature or humidity with height. If there is a temperature inversion (increase of temperature with height), particularly if accompanied by a rapid decrease in humidity, the refraction is greater than normal. Objects appear elevated, and the visible horizon is farther away. Objects which are normally below the horizon become visible. This is called looming. If the upper portion of an object is raised much more than the bottom part, the object appears taller than usual, an effect called towering. If the lower part of an object is raised more than the upper part, the object appears shorter, an effect called stooping. When the refraction is greater than normal, a superior mirage may occur. An inverted image is seen above the object, and sometimes an erect image appears over the inverted one, with the bases of the two images touching. Greater than normal refraction usually occurs when the water is much colder than the air above it. If the temperature decrease with height is much greater than normal, refraction is less than normal, or may even cause bending in the opposite direction. Objects appear lower than normal, and the visible horizon is closer to the observer. This is called sinking. Towering or stooping may also occur if conditions are suitable. When the refraction is reversed, an inferior mirage may occur. A ship or an island appears to be floating in the air above a shimmering horizon, possibly with an inverted image beneath it. Conditions suitable to the formation of an inferior mirage occur when the surface is much warmer than the air above it. This usually requires a heated landmass, and therefore is more common near the coast than at sea. When refraction is not uniformly progressive, objects may appear distorted, taking an almost endless variety of shapes. The Sun, when near the horizon, is one of the objects most noticeably affected. A fata morgana is a complex mirage characterized by marked distortion, generally in the vertical. It may cause objects to appear towering, magnified, and at times even multiplied. Source, The American Practical Navigator. edition 2019.
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  63. You are the EVIDENCE that you failed school and every form of education. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
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  64. Life sucks when you can't use the right math and ignore the atmoSPHERE.
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  65. Ah.. more bible BS... Something that has no evidence to prove something....
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  66. And the bible or any other "holly book" is not a science book. Try again and bring EVIDENCE .
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  67. When are you going to present your photo's of the dome and the edge of the earth? That is very telling you make claims without ever showing anything.
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  68. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  69. And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!! By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion. Now look up what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is.
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  70.  @yestervue4697  Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  71. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Try again, kid.
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  72. PROVE IT!!
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  73. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE next time.
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  74. We already know you don't think. That needs a working brain and not a video from a conman Dubay B$ is all debunked.
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  75. All observations over water have problems with refraction. That is the reason why laser tests over water are not reliable. It all depends on the temperature difference and amount of water vapour in the air. Nobody can ever know all the density changes in the air and all temperatures, etc. Sailors are very well aware of those problems. That is why they never do sextant observations of objects lower than 30 degrees over the horizon. I have a piece here from the American Practical Navigator here, the Navigators bible, better known as the Bowditch that explains thing that can happen. Light is refracted as it passes through the atmosphere. When refraction is normal, objects appear slightly elevated, and the visible horizon is farther from the observer than it otherwise would be. Since the effects are uniformly progressive, they are not apparent to the observer. When refraction is not normal, some form of mirage may occur. A mirage is an optical phenomenon in which objects appear distorted, displaced (raised or lowered), magnified, multiplied, or inverted due to varying atmospheric refraction which occurs when a layer of air near the Earth's surface differs greatly in density from surrounding air. This may occur when there is a rapid and sometimes irregular change of temperature or humidity with height. If there is a temperature inversion (increase of temperature with height), particularly if accompanied by a rapid decrease in humidity, the refraction is greater than normal. Objects appear elevated, and the visible horizon is farther away. Objects which are normally below the horizon become visible. This is called looming. If the upper portion of an object is raised much more than the bottom part, the object appears taller than usual, an effect called towering. If the lower part of an object is raised more than the upper part, the object appears shorter, an effect called stooping. When the refraction is greater than normal, a superior mirage may occur. An inverted image is seen above the object, and sometimes an erect image appears over the inverted one, with the bases of the two images touching. Greater than normal refraction usually occurs when the water is much colder than the air above it. If the temperature decrease with height is much greater than normal, refraction is less than normal, or may even cause bending in the opposite direction. Objects appear lower than normal, and the visible horizon is closer to the observer. This is called sinking. Towering or stooping may also occur if conditions are suitable. When the refraction is reversed, an inferior mirage may occur. A ship or an island appears to be floating in the air above a shimmering hori zon, possibly with an inverted image beneath it. Conditions suitable to the formation of an inferior mirage occur when the surface is much warmer than the air above it. This usually requires a heated landmass, and therefore is more common near the coast than at sea. When refraction is not uniformly progressive, objects may appear distorted, taking an almost endless variety of shapes. The Sun, when near the horizon, is one of the objects most noticeably affected. A fata morgana is a complex mirage characterized by marked distortion, generally in the vertical. It may cause objects to appear towering, magnified, and at times even multiplied. Source, The American Practical Navigator. edition 2019.
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  76. As a mariner I KNOW the earth is a globe. When looking in on the flat earth claims I see a lot of BS, misinformation and mostly personal incredulity. So YES I looked at their claims. It is a anti-science cult.
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  77.  @juancifuentes76  Imagine just believing flat earth priests without checking their claims. Because that is what you do.
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  78. So people in the distant past were stupid. Got it. We discovered he earth is a globe some 2300 years ago. The bible is no science book.
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  79. Try again.
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  80. Until you start watching REALITY
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  81. Everybody can go there. Bring a warm coat.
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  82. And there we have the next religious nutcase.
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  83. There is no both sides of any argument. Flerfs keep failing to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  84. Because there is no EVIDENCE for both your claims.
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  85. Science. The EVIDENCE for the globe. The ART of Navigation proves the globe. everytime. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  86. To bad that level doesn't mean flat. Try again, kid.
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  87. Now prove that all photo's sinds 1946 are CGI. What computer program and what computer was used. photoshop is from 1988. CGI was crap in the 80's.
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  88. It is clear that you are a christian that believes in a god but has no EVIDENCE for the existence for that god.
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  89. But you were upside down!!! Relative to me here.
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  90. Are you sure you want to call all mariners from the last 2500 years liars? Are you sure you want to call al scientists liars? Then you need to provide EVVIDENCE for a flat earth. If you can not do that then just STFU.
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  91. %psi on the inside of the spacesuit, no perfect vacuum on the outside. Only fools measure rotation in mph. Earth rotates at 0.00069444 rpm. The rocket is moving with the earth: learn what conservation of momentum is. The astronauts did not have screwdrivers. The pressure was not 14.7 psi. A sodacan hold 80 PSI but is very thin. You presurize the cabin with air you brought with you. Ac unit works on electricity. Nasa can only go to LEO because AT THIS MOMENT they have no big rockets. The did not LOSE anything. Ford can not build a model T, did they lose the technology? Looks like you have a lot of silly questions that have answers on the internet. Looks like you are just to lazy to look things up.
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  92.  @dogwalker666  There are laws against dumping trash in space.
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  93. Tell us about the "flaws" Be specific.
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  94. Fun FACT a flag is no map.
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  95. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE . Arguments from personal incredulity count for nothing. They just show you failed at simple physics.
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  96. That you don't understand circumnavigation and navigation is a YOU problem Great circles exist, kid. And I can pick any direction I want to circumnavigate a globe.
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  97. OYG, The delusional TROLL is back.
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  98. To expensive. Dump the all on Antarctica. The continent they claim doesn't exist.
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  99. Nice docu about dumb people and cowards Not one shred of EVIDENCE for a flat earth given. All we see is a coward that will not go and check his claims. Piss drinking dave and his BS. Tatoo boy and his own brand of arguments from personal incredulity A failed rapper turned conman And a grifter. So what was your point again??
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  100. Then how come you can only see the tops of the high buildings and only on certain days? Oh, You just ignore the whole atmoSPHERE!!!!
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  101. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Try again after some years at sea observing the globe.
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  102. Light is refracted as it passes through the atmosphere. When refraction is normal, objects appear slightly elevated, and the visible horizon is farther from the observer than it otherwise would be. Since the effects are uniformly progressive, they are not apparent to the observer. When refraction is not normal, some form of mirage may occur. A mirage is an optical phenomenon in which objects appear distorted, displaced (raised or lowered), magnified, multiplied, or inverted due to varying atmospheric refraction which occurs when a layer of air near the Earth's surface differs greatly in density from surrounding air. This may occur when there is a rapid and sometimes irregular change of temperature or humidity with height. If there is a temperature inversion (increase of temperature with height), particularly if accompanied by a rapid decrease in humidity, the refraction is greater than normal. Objects appear elevated, and the visible horizon is farther away. Objects which are normally below the horizon become visible. This is called looming. If the upper portion of an object is raised much more than the bottom part, the object appears taller than usual, an effect called towering. If the lower part of an object is raised more than the upper part, the object appears shorter, an effect called stooping. When the refraction is greater than normal, a superior mirage may occur. An inverted image is seen above the object, and sometimes an erect image appears over the inverted one, with the bases of the two images touching. Greater than normal refraction usually occurs when the water is much colder than the air above it. If the temperature decrease with height is much greater than normal, refraction is less than normal, or may even cause bending in the opposite direction. Objects appear lower than normal, and the visible horizon is closer to the observer. This is called sinking. Towering or stooping may also occur if conditions are suitable. When the refraction is reversed, an inferior mirage may occur. A ship or an island appears to be floating in the air above a shimmering hori zon, possibly with an inverted image beneath it. Conditions suitable to the formation of an inferior mirage occur when the surface is much warmer than the air above it. This usually requires a heated landmass, and therefore is more common near the coast than at sea. When refraction is not uniformly progressive, objects may appear distorted, taking an almost endless variety of shapes. The Sun, when near the horizon, is one of the objects most noticeably affected. A fata morgana is a complex mirage characterized by marked distortion, generally in the vertical. It may cause objects to appear towering, magnified, and at times even multiplied. Source, The American Practical Navigator. edition 2019.
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  103. Flerfs will never understand that the horizon is a circle around you and the observer is on the apex of the globe. You have to be a mariner to see and realize that.
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  104.  @yestervue4697  Now, tell us the air pressure at 8 km high and the lift of an airplane wing of a 747 on that altitude at 550 NM. Just do the math.
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  105.  @KangenAlec  < is just a TROLL.
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  106. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  107. Flat?? Ok, NOW PROVE IT!! When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  108. Yes, flat earth is non sense.
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  109. He is still rotating in his grave at 15 deg/hour.
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  110. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. Columbus knew it was a globe but he thought it was smaller. Remember 1492???
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  111. NASA controls the light switch ;)
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  112. The bible/ book of lies, BS and myth is not a science book.
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  113. To expensive.. Dump them on the southpole in december to see the 24 hour sun. Or put them in a small boat in the pacific with a clock, a sextant, a nautical almanac and a book on celestial navigation. Learn it or die.
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  114.  @Nunya_BizNess  Still missing. EVIDENCE for a flat earth, kid. Why is that?
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  115.  @Nunya_BizNess  You have no map that conforms to reality. You have debunked nothing, kid. Screaming everything is fake is not debunking. Try again. MAP AND MODEL of the flat earth, kid.
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  116.  @Nunya_BizNess  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  117. I researched. It failed on every point. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Now run along and get an education.
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  118.  @billhassall1586  Nope. I know we are ROTATING at 0.00069444 rpm because I measured it. What do you think causes night and day? A small sun with a lampshade? You still fail to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Why is that?
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  119. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  120.  @DreamingPhenom  _ the perfect reflection in the water and its level property, look at the stars etc.._ There is no perfect reflection in the water. Celestial navigation proves the globe. Try again when you have EVIDENCE .
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  121. Did those people "think" as you suggested???
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  122. Delusions about some dude that got nailed to a cross proves nothing other than that he is dead. So.. You have to do better.
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  123. That no one answers?? Like what?
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  124. Ignoring the mountains of EVIDENCE for the globe is pretty stupid.
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  125. And you are not a pilot but just a liar. Try again, kid. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  126. So all mariners, pilots, geologists, etc.. Just follow the majority?? You have absolutely no idea how many people depend on the earth being a rotating globe.
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  127.  @dustinjames7490  Refraction is a well know thing and is proven to happen in the atmosphere. All mariners know this and NEVER use stars in their sextant observations below 25 deg. above the horizon because it will mess up the observation. Are you also denying the existence of mirages?
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  128. What a load of BS. Trolling again??
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  129. Flat earthers forgot to think.
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  130.  @truther627  Your "truth" is not THE TRUTH Kid. You are delusional. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Cry harder.
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  131.  @wolfflow23  So you have no EVIDENCE just as every other silly flat earther that makes empty claims. Now, start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  132.  @wolfflow23  Now, start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth. No video/photo's, they are all CGI, remember?
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  133.  @wolfflow23  Proof to us that ALL photo's on google of the earth are CGI.
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  134.  @MadameWesker  The shape of the earth is not a belief or an opinion. It is a *FACT*. Flat earth is an anti science cult. Looks like you want your country's government to be all conspiracy nuts. You just don't care about anything.
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  135. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  136.  @justintime6336  BTW.. I don't live in your backwaters. The EVIDENCE i provided is from my own personal experiences and observations. Traveling the globe and crossing oceans on ships gave me a lot of time to observe it all. You have never been on the bridge of a ship. You never been in Malacca Straight on a moonless night and seen the loom of One Fathom Bank Lighthouse sweeping OVER the horizon as we were outside it's range. You don't even know what a loom of a lighthouse is and why it points up and sweeps OVER the ship while the light itself can not be seen. https://flatearth.ws/lighthouse#more-3201 More EVIDENCE for the globe. You will ignore it again. We know.
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  137.  @justintime6336  Debunk the EVIDENCE I provided. You failed to do that. But you are still here yapping and spouting your personal incredulity arguments. Could it be that YOU FAILED TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH?????
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  138.  @justintime6336  Tell me. Why would China cater to the silly whims of flerfs when the are on a space mission? Why would the ISS lifestream HAVE to show towns and buildings?? To cater to your personal incredulity??
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  139. Ok. EVIDENCE for the globe. DEBUNK IT or STFU. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  140. My east looks not advanced. Poland russia, etc.....
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  141.  @Globeisahoax  Flat earth doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis, FOOL!
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  142.  @MatthiasAmare23  LOL do a repeat of Amelia Erhart??
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  143.  @Matuse  Thanks Bob. ;)
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  144. Like what? The size and shape of the earth is not one of those things. Earth is a globe.
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  145. A 15 degree per hour drift. Thanks Bob.
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  146. Religious BS. Try again. Just use your brain.
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  147. "one of the people in the community actually purchased one for $20,000 but what we found is is when we turned on that gyroscope we found that we were picking up a drift a 15-degree per hour drift ." Thanks, Bob. To be exact, One Rotation 23 h 56 min 4.1 sec, 15.0410669873 degrees per hour, 7.292115 × 10^-5 rad/s It is the cause of night and day. Ever seen that? Night and day? What harmonics??? Can you show us all the math for that?
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  148.  @energyflowswhereattentiongoes  When are flerfs starting to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth??
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  149. To bad that we have EVIDENCE for a globe. Are you really accusing flerfs to think???
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  150. Planes don't dip. When you see a plane nose down, it is crashing.
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  151. Navigation proves it is a globe. I do not "believe" I *KNOW*.
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  152. We already did that 2300 years ago and again in the 9'th century. And again every day.
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  153.  @BertleMcGertle  Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  154. That is than just a YOU problem. We do not need NASA to prove the earth is a globe.
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  155. There is one degree tilt for every 60 nautical mile. That is how the nautical mile was defined. One degree of drop of polaris for every 60 nautical mile south.
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  156. I have a list here. The whole list is to long to post. It is larger than YT allows. • No working model, or map. • No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude. • No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year. • No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere. • No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth. • No idea what powers the sun and the stars. • No idea of the distance to the stars. • Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works. • No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all. • No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation. • No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon. • No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth. • No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are. • No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world. • No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth. • No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used. • No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly. • No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature. • No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature. • No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics. • No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid. • No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe. • No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox. • No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon. • No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view. • No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres). • No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude. • No explanation as to why the Artic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year. • No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky • No explanation for how tides work. • No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth. • No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level. • No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth. • No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity. • No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome. • No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively. • No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s. • No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere. • No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located. • No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system. • No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system. • No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion. • No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs. • No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set. • Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way. • No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too. • No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia. • No credible reason why millions of people (mostly scientists, engineers and technicians ) over decades would lie to keep the globe earth alive, and why nations and commercial enterprises, accountable to the voters and shareholders respectively, would spend (waste) $2 trillion a year , each and every year to maintain the globe lie. • No idea how it is possible to measure the value of G, the universal gravitational constant and in so doing, verify the theory of gravity. • No scientific papers publish in the last 100 years supporting the flat earth. • No idea why there is snow on hight moutains with a local sun as it has to get warmer and snow should melt if you get closer to the sun. Now the globe earth and the heliocentric model have answers that are consistent with each other to all of the above that the flat earth can't explain, but the globe earth is wrong and the flat earth is correct , even although the flat earth model is almost useless at explaining anything? Have I understood the situation correctly? The flat earth is gaslighting to the power infinity
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  157. Ask ships navigators. Come back with their answers, kid.
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  158. BS.
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  159. EVERYTHING is edited??? You have to prove that.
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  160.  @1sinister80  Not even probably. The globe is a FACT
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  161.  @brucelebeau411  You mean that book that Eric Dubay plagerized?? His "200 proofs" that all got debunked a few times???
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  162. Flerfs do not know the difference between a gyro and an artificial horizon and how that works.
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  163. So you had a level as long as that mall?? Who makes those??
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  164. What penguins with guns??
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  165. NON-existing. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  166. Religion.
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  167. Polaris shift all the time. The precession of the equinox takes 25.600 years.
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  168. NO, it is only what you believe. And we don't care about your beliefs. We care about what you can prove and you fail to do that.
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  169.  @skeptical5803  He, i read your comment so YT is not removing that. You just posted some flerf BS video link. YT blocks all links. You have to do better. You have to use WORDS and present your evidence and explain the hypothesis. If you can't do that then you have no idea what you are talking about.
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  170.  @skeptical5803  You can't present EVIDENCE for your claims and now you are running away. Why don't you triangulate all the sat-TV-dishes in your town and tell where they all point? Triangulate the sun?? Buy a sextant and do the sight reduction calculations. Oh, you don't do math???
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  171.  @skeptical5803  You really refuse to answer simple questions all the time, don't you. We see that a lot in dumb people.
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  172.  @neiljohnson7914  And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!! By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion. You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* . The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled. In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be. Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law. This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory . When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You are just a coward that thinks hiding behind his religioun is a smart move
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  173. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. What "creation"? When was that? Did you know that the geocentric model has a globe as center of the universe|??
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  174. BS. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  175. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSMRhTPMSfk
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  176.  @KangenAlec  Flerfs expose their own stupidity. You are just a troll.
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  177. We KNOW it is a globe.
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  178.  @yestervue4697  And?? Your point???
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  179. Almost.. "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" - NDT.
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  180. Explain how they do that, kid.
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  181. So you know the exact date?? LOL!!!
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  182. What a load of BS. Long distance flights fly curves over the globe. Looks like you need some navigation lessons.
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  183. Try again, kid. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. We already know you are not interested in the truth.
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  184. Why do you think it is flat when you have no observations and evidence for that? The globe is a proven FACT .
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  185.  @Easyork  So you are going to disprove celestial navigation? This wil be fun.
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  186. The earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 rpm. Only fools use mph for rotation The atmoSPHERE rotates with the earth.
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  187. Flerfs are GLOBAL problem. They are also in your country.
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  188.  @MultiChaoticus  When are you going to step of a tall building and float away?? Just tell us. We will be on the sidewalk with your Darwin award. We all love to see you disprove *GRAVITY!*.
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  189. We will go easy but when they start making claims that the bible is 100% true and start twisting basic physics we will step in and not in a nice way. Glad you made it out. I will respect somebody's religion but there are limits and a lot of flerfs cross them a lot.
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  190.  @chichomrt6459  And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!! By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion. You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* . The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled. In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be. Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law. This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory . Try again, loser.
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  191.  @mirostsiklauri8028  Your claim, Your burden of proof.
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  192. Looks like you have a big problem with reality.
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  193.  @antondavidoff150  So you want a mechanical gyro on a plane. Those things are only used on ships in gyrocompasses. Not anymore on planes because of their weight. Do you know how a mechanical Gyrocompass can find true South? It need GRAVITY and the spin of the globe. Planes use Optical gyro's Types of gyro: Spinning Mass Gyroscope. Laser ring Gyro Fiber optic Gyro. Vibrating Structure Gyroscopes Microelectromechanical systems (MEMS) Btw. use a spelling check.
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  194. Take your shoes off and look again.
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  195. Have you ever used a road??? Would that road be there is the government doesn't get tax?? BTW. he government in your country might suck but EVERY NAVIGATOR KNOWS the earth is a globe. That is his work.
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  196. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  197.  @pedroohm5115  So a lie spreads faster? No. only the gullible believe the lies. People like you.
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  198.  @pedroohm5115  That is why we MEASURE and TEST THINGS
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  199.  @pedroohm5115  To bad then that you only have a "belief" You don't KNOW anything.
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  200. Normal people KNOW it is a globe. That is a proven fact with much EVIDENCE .
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  201.  @peteoverton6069  Say it like this, I am a mariner that has seen to much things that are all IMPOSSIBLE on a flat earth. Flat earthers fail to present EVIDENCE for their claims. . Wanna try again, kid?
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  202.  @peteoverton6069  There is no denying reality. Earth is not flat. Try again boy. Your refusal to provide evidence says it all You have none.
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  203. So all mariners use the wrong DATA when doing celestial navigation? Now prove that.
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  204.  @quinktap  LOL, You are funny. You still think there is a debate about the size and shape of the earth.
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  205.  @mrporsche4236  There is no such thing as flat earth physics or evidence. You are not a prof. You are just a liar. Your first statement was already a lie as I pointed out. There is no such thing as a flat earth theory. It doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis.
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  206.  @janagax  long enough to see the evidence for the globe.
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  207. yep
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  208. That is YT. You probably used one of the words on their bad word list Deal with it. We all have the same problem with YT.
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  209. Try again, fool. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  210. Listen to what he is saying. You forgot to do that. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  211. The globe is not a theory. It is a FACT .
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  212.  @dcgallin  Byrd flew from the American base to the southpole and went back. He said that there is a lot of land he did not research YET. About the size of the USA. And he was right. There was that other half of Antarctica that was not mapped, YET!!!
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  213.  @Globeisahoax  NO, they can't. Flerfs don't do math, Only meth.
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  214. To bad that you have no EVIDENCE for that. Btw, satanic?? Are you a religious nut that sees satan everywhere? You need better meds, kid.
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  215. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You are just a coward that thinks hiding behind his religion is a smart move.
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  216. Funny. You claim NASA lies about everything. Why do you believe a scientific paper from NASA? You can not have your cake and eat it, kid.
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  217. Denial is not an argument, kid.
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  218. Try again. Bring evidence for your claims next time.
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  219. You assumed they think. Big mistake.
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  220.  icewall flatearth  Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  221. So they are just simple. That still doesn't make the earth flat.
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  222. @Ula.. you have to remember your bible. YOUR GOD MADE EVERYTHING. That includes covid-19 and the vaccins agains it.
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  223. You can go there, There are cruises to antarctica.
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  224. Silly attempt to change the subject?? Go TROLL somewhere else.
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  225. Funny how so many TROLLS think they are funny.
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  226.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  227. Stay of the meth, kid.
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  228. I have blind trust in celestial navigation because it works!!!! Navigators are doing it for over 200 years. I have no need for NASA.
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  229. Just be more like Rob Skiba.
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  230.  @Globeisahoax  << is just a TROLL
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  231. You will care when your pilot is a flerf and you die in a plane crash.
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  232.  @yestervue4697  <TROLL ALERT!!
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  233. Try again, kid. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  234.  @cardinalrg5114  He is just a TROLL
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  235. Navigation proves the globe every day. Who told you the earth is flat? What flerf priest made that silly claim and you fell for it because you did not check his claims??
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  236.  @elieciril283  So, life sucks. That is no excuse to run away to religious BS. Remember that types like her are the reason that whole countries end up being 3'rd world countries.
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  237. To bad then that you have no EVIDENCE for that "creator" Why is that? Be a man and start presenting EVIDENCE for a '"creator" Do something that nobody has done over thousands of years.
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  238. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. You are really pathetic spamming this for days now all over YT. You have been answered and refuse to present that video.
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  239. M&M failed to prove aether. It used an interferometer that depend on the rotation of the earth. Read the original papers from that experiment.
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  240.  @KangenAlec  <TROLL ALERT.
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  241.  @djrap1997  If they could think they would not be flerfs.
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  242. Ask a Navigator on a ship. They all KNOW the earth is a globe. That is part of their job.
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  243. So Navigators don't know anything?? Remember that the next time you get on a flight. The pilot doesn't know WHERE HE IS GOING!!!!! NAVIGATION PROVES THE GLOBE EVERYDAY.
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  244. Try again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  245.  @cloudpandarism2627  But we don't poke them, how do we know it's still alive?
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  246. ​ @mlooker2126  Sure you want to debate the difference between proof and evidence?? Proof comes from math. Evidence comes from observations. The ART of navigation is all based on NON-Euclidian ( ball) math. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Combined wit the observations over 2500 years we KNOW the earth is a globe. Now disprove math. Go ahead. 1 + 1 = still 2. That will never change.
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  247.  @mlooker2126  A scientific theory is tested to destruction. That is what science does. They try to DISPROVE things that are found by other scientists. If nobody can disprove it you got a proven fact. Like earth, gravity, germ theory, evolution. etc. Want a Nobel Prixe?? Disprove a SCIENTIFIC THEORY Now go play outside. Your "it's only a theory" argument disqualifies you from adult conversations.
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  248.  @mlooker2126  And we have a WINNER again who doesn't know what a scientific theory is. You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* . The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled. In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be. Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law. This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory .
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  249.  @filipebernardino2152  If we take a photo from you every day non will ever be the same. What is your point?
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  250. Ignoring basic physics is not going to help you Your silly rant is pointless and dumb. And YES all flerfs are crazy.
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  251. It clearly states earth is a globe, hung on nothing.
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  252. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. DITRH is not going to help you.
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  253.  @Mine_P_Panda  All NAVIGATORS care about the shape of the earth. Their job depend on it. If you don't know the shape of the earth you can not tell the distance from A to B and can not tell in what direction it is. Airlines and shipping depends on KNOWING this. Just imagine that the pilot of the plane you are in can't tell the distance and has not enough fuel, Oops, you crash. At least ships float even if they run out of fuel.
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  254. Why don't you present EVIDENCE for a flat earth? When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  255. The phases of the moon have nothing to do with a shadow of the earth, kid. Only a lunar eclips shows the shadow of the earth. BTW, Your keyboard is broken. Fix it!!!
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  256. That "faith" ended when we discovered is is a lot of B$.
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  257.  @erikhartel456  And your evidence for a flat earth is??? Cook... lets see that log... WOW, he did make a lot of stops during that travel and had a lot of vacations on tropical islands.. Is the Antarctic treaty REALLY KEEPING EVERYONE AWAY?? Did you read it?? Tell us what arcticle states that NOBODY can go there??? All flights in the southern hemisphere make perfect sense on a globe. That you are unable to understand what a Great Circle Course is, is not my problem. I care about the shape because all NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and size of the globe. We would not be able to do the job if we did not. Now... Your turn. Present EVIDENCE for the globe. Your arguments from personal incredulity don't count for anything.
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  258. Try again, kid.
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  259. Try again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  260. Not even then. Last flerf I debated was in a bar. We roasted him. He never spoke to me again. He avoided me and did not even dare to look in my direction again.
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  261.  @SIRICKO  You just proved my point. YOU are unable to think.
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  262. So you, a flerf, claims that you can think??? WOW.
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  263. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE . The bible is no science book.
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  264. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Here are the numbers all navigators use. World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811
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  265. The average flerf is a Trump fanboy.
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  266. No, flerfs are a global problem.
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  267. WOW.. Now prove it, kid. Bible and reality do not mix very well.
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  268.  @holimolibebalanced9348  So you need to lie about maps. All maps are based on the globe.
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  269. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Can;'t do it?? Why is that??
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  270. Yea, we already know that schools in the US are bad.
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  271. He isn't. YT is doing that. Install an extension and you can see them. 11k now.
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  272. What about not one flerf can present EVIDENCE for a flat earth? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  273. With bombers launched from aircraft carriers. Your point??? Your trolling gets boring.
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  274. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  275.  @secretname2093  They first have to prove they have a brain.
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  276. Nice description of a flerf.
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  277.  @dirkardostevergreen4827  Perhaps but I have that piece of text on file and I just can't resist when somebody uses the "It's just a theory" argument. 2 klicks gets me the file. 2 klicks more is Copy/past.
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  278.  @matthewlaxson1633  Sorry boy but I looked in to it. I did a lot of tests and observations during my time at sea. Not one observation shows a flat earth. It is physical impossible to be flat.
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  279.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  280.  @Allstarsga  the force is NOT selective. You need to do WORK to get something done. You spend energy from your food to get out of your chair. The butterfly spend energy From it's food. How is that selective???
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  281.  @Allstarsga  Still waiting for YOU to present EVIDENCE for your claims. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  282. GRAVITY!!!!
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  283. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. As long as you can not present these, you have nothing but your own delusions.
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  284. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  285. All flights conform nice to the globe. All emergency landings work out fine. Just admit you know nothing about navigation.
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  286. Try again. Present that "evidence" .
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  287. Not one experiment proves a non rotating globe. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe. We call it GEOGRAPHY. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. We call that GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Have you been to space?? Flerfs deny space. So you admit space exists. but you have not been there to see a flat earth. BTW. define " OUTER SPACE " Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  288. Explain to me why bees should not be able to fly and what scientist claims that.
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  289. We MEASURED IT ALL What did you do in the mean time??
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  290. To bad you have no EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  291. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. We don't need your book of lies and B$.
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  292. No they did not. Try again. Btw, nice list of B$ and strawmen you got.
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  293.  @MrSirhcsellor  Of course not.. Asking a flerf for evidence. How dare you ;)
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  294.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  295. That depends on the flat earth priest. Go look for Eric Dubay. the neo-nasi holocaust denying anti- semitic conman.
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  296.  @a_mustache_of_great_repute  You need to look up what a SCIENTIFFIC THEORY is. It is not a guess, a hunch. It is a prover explanation, backed up with observations and experiments.
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  297. Try again. Soma astronaut that makes fun of flat earthers is not EVIDENCE for a flat earth. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  298. Because we have the EVIDENCE for that.
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  299.  @TheJoktan  We are still waiting for you to prove evolution is not real. What is the holdup, kid?
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  300. And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!! By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion. Why don't you look up what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is?
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  301. LOL.. So some papers that you have not read prove the world is flat?? The un flag is a flag. It shows all county's. That is all. It can't be used to navigate on. It is heavily distorted. The globe is the right representation. To navigate in constricted water we need better resolution. A globe with that kind of resolution would be over 3 km in circumference. Pointless to have something like that on a supertanker because it's to big. That is why all maps are projections. It is even printed on your silly gleason map.
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  302. So you respect conmen?? WHY!!!!!
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  303. They all say it is a globe. Just as every naval navigator.
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  304. Where is your EVIDENCE for a flat earth again??? Eh... MISSING as usual .. Try again, kid when you have EVIDENCE to present.
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  305. Running to the bible is EVIDENCE that you have no EVIDENCE The bible is no science book. The earth is a globe and evolution happens
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  306. And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!! By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion. You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* . The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled. In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be. Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law. This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory .
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  307. P1: do you know anything about navigation? P2: no. P1: I do, it proves the globe everyday. P2: You are lying!!! it is flat!!! and runs away.... P1: I told you he would do that, he has no EVIDENCE .
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  308. Firmament is just a fancy word for the sky.
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  309. Your keyboard is broken. FIX IT!!
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  310. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. So ancient people did not know anything about the world, and??
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  311.  @rohamansari8110  It is not a THEORY It even fails to be a hypothesis.
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  312. So you miss the basic knowledge to debunk the flat earth. What was your IQ again? Smaller than you shoesize?? That explains it.
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  313. Observations and measurements.
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  314. Flerfism is a global thing. They are all over.
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  315.  @jamescraven5001  Just say Soccer ball. Americans have weird football that is played by picking up the ball with your hands and throwing it.😂
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  316. We don't care what dumb people thought. Earth was proven a globe 2300 years ago. All you did was confirm that dumb people existed and still exist.
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  317. Go and learn what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is.
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  318.  @KangenAlec  < is just a TROLL.
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  319. They are around the globe. I have met 2. one is a religious nutcase that is to dumb to think. Ne avoids me because he got burned bad the last time we spoke The other one was a nice girl/barkeepster that is smart enough but fell in to the religious trap. Have not seen her lately.
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  320. YOU as a relitard already made up your mid and ignore all the EVIDENCE that you are wrong. Try again. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  321. What god?? Odin?
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  322. Gravity is everywhere, kid. G forces are only there when accelerating. Just admit you failed basic physics.
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  323. Just more reasons to distrust all religious books.
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  324.  @pavelinho1  So this plane is sitting on a runway facing west somewhere on the equator and the equator is moving at 1000 miles per hour. Now this plane speeds up to takeoff speed. So now it is moving at 1000 + 200 miles per hour. What is the speed of the plane?? 200 MPH or 1200 MPH? In reference to what????
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  325. Sealevel. level adjective Definition of level (Entry 3 of 3) 1a : having no part higher than another : conforming to the curvature of the liquid parts of the earth's surface.
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  326. There is no flat earth model.
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  327.  @pidris7849  Go play outside, kid.
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  328. Because you failed in school? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  329. The atmoSPHERE moves with the earth. Helicopters have a pilot to keep it hovering at that spot. Conservation of momentum. Go learn some basic physics, kid.
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  330. Yep it just stays at the same elevation. Do you know what elevation is and why the plane does that?
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  331.  @robertfoertsch  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  332. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  333. Because everybody loves a train wreck.
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  334. What city in the US to Auckland?? I can give you the flightplan for a direct flight. Remember the USA is not in the same hemiSPHERE as NZ.
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  335. So nasa photoshopped everything from 1958 to 1988 with photoshop?? Photo shop did not exist before 1988. Simmon was not born. There was no computer that could make that kind of resolution. Try again because you are failing hard
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  336. All NAVIGATORS care about the shape of the earth. Their job depend on it. If you don't know the shape of the earth you can not tell the distance from A to B and can not tell in what direction it is. Airlines and shipping depends on KNOWING this. Try again when you have learned about navigation.
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  337. Why don't you tell us what flat earthers believe? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation?
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  338. On many flights, they would give away leveling devices to all passengers for free, so that everyone would be able to observe the dip of the horizon and proves Earth is a sphere. And as a nice side effect, to quench our thirsts, too! Such devices are called ‘bottled water’. Using these simple ‘instruments’ on a flight, we can demonstrate that Earth is a sphere. By drinking half of the water in a bottle of water, we can use the bottle as a simple leveling device. Firmly close the bottle, hold the bottle horizontally, and aim for the horizon line, all while keeping our eyes level with the surface of water inside the bottle. If weather condition allows it, it is not hard to observe that the horizon is below the eye level. The phenomenon is called the dip of the horizon, and can only occur with such magnitude if Earth is a sphere. Flat-Earthers repeatedly assert that “horizon always rises to eye level, no matter how high we are from the surface.” Using these simple ‘instruments,’ it is trivial to prove them wrong. Try again boy.
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  339. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  340. They refuse to acknowledge that gravity exists.
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  341. The lift of the wings depends on the air that goes over the wing. The higher you go the less air there is. Go the lift of the wings is less. The plane balances on having lift and weight te same. To go higher there must flow more air over the wing. To do that it needs to speed up. It is basic aerodynamics. Speed<>Thrust and Lift<>Weight. No need to dip the nose. Aerodynamics do that automatic.
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  342. It is called aerobatics.
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  343.  @KangenAlec  And you can not even prove that. You are just a TROLL.
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  344. Explain to me that shaking bit. Why would a smooth rotation of 0.00069444 rpm cause shaking? Explain to me why I see the effect of curvature all over?
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  345.  @peterhoebarth4234  And still you can not show them because??? Yea.. I thought so. You got nothing. You are just a TROLL.
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  346. I don't think the world is round. I KNOW the world is round. I have seen the evidence and proof.
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  347. Yes I can. Now...... When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  348. Prove it.
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  349. Ok, I will strap a flerf to the second stage combustion chamber of a space-X rocket Nice in view of the camera. That will solve it.
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  350. Just look up why a mechanical gyro compass works to point to true north. Evidence for rotation at 0.00069444 rpm is easy to find. There is also Foucault's pendulum.
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  351. Do you even now in what direction down is?
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  352. u don't have any EVIDENCE the earth is flat. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  353. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  354. Try again First learn a bit about aerodynamics.
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  355. Measuring and testing things. It all shows a globe.
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  356. Your brain? Yes we know.
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  357. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  358. No, flerfism is a global problem.
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  359. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  360.  @stevenfincher6615  Ahhhhh. you are a truth seeker. We already know that truth seekers are not interested in the truth.
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  361.  @stevenfincher6615  Try again and research the vendee sail race.
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  362. Ok, Now prove it.
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  363. You never see the bottoms of the buildings. So just stop lying.
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  364. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye. Btw, Flerfs have no "good" points.
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  365. Try again, boy. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  366.  @danellis-jones1591  If left alone idiocracy will spread. Sure you want a generation of 50% fools that are all unenployable because of their foolish ideas??
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  367. That plane you were on.. Somebody calculated the course and direction for that flight. If that person doesn't know the shape of the earth, planes would never fly to where they want to go. Yes, it matters to you to. All airlines and shipping lines depend on it.
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  368. Your brain. Yes, we know.
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  369. Just one more reason to reject that silly book of fables and myth.
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  370. Not one flat earther has ever proven his claims. Gravity on earth affects light hardly. The gravity is not strong enough. The earth is no black hole or a complete galaxy.
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  371.  @betamaxreal  Reported for threatening with violence.
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  372. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. It was again proven in the 9'th century.
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  373. One degree for every 60 nautical mile.
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  374. Be nice to humankind. Be more like Rob Skiba.
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  375. Your brain?? Yes.
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  376. Flipping burgers in the local burger shop. or unemployed.
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  377.  @Richard-ib3kp  Still missing. those problems with the heliocentric model you are talking about.
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  378.  @yestervue4697  Yep.. fail again.
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  379. 1: What has religion has to do with the shape of the earth? 2: Satellites do not have to travel to the edges of our milkyway to take photo's of other galaxy's. I can see The andromeda galaxy from my backyard with the naked eye. 3: Vanishing points... Vanishing point is a cult film from 1971. Go watch it. Do not watch the remake from 1997. It is not that great. 4: bla,bla,bla,bla, government, bla,bla,bla,...... 5: pluto was demoted from being a planet when we found a lot more Kuyperbelt objects. 6:You can go to Antarctica if you want to. just do the paperwork, do the planning and go. Show us all where it is stated in the Antarctic treaty that NOBODY can go there. 7: so you don't know if the earth is flat or round??? Why is that?? Could it be you are to dumb to understand the evidence??
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  380. Yep, Bob Knodel also rejects his own tests of a 15 degree per hour drift. He blames god.
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  381. ​ @Globeisahoax  yes we can but you are just going to ignore the *EVIDENCE*. You are just a TROLL .
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  382. Ask Steve Tyler. He has been living on the edge . :)
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  383. Sorry kid we KNOW the earth is an oblate spheroid. No "beliefs" necessary.
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  384. Polaris drops one degree per 60 nautical mile. That is the original definition of a nautical mile. The height of Polaris is the latitude of the observer. This is only possible on a globe.
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  385. Why are you using a computer that was made my Science and are posting comments on the internet that is possible because of Science??
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  386. Flat earth is not a theory. It doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis.
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  387.  @wolfflow23  YOU?? Teach me MATH?? Sorry kid but as a sailor I have done my share of math to calculate my position from sextant observations. FUN FACT: It is all NON_euclidian ball math. Navigation is all based on the globe because the earth is a globe. Navigation proves that everyday. You still fail to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth, looks like you have nothing.
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  388.  @ST8URCASE  It is not about "beliefs" or "opinions" These people make up their own FACTS How about I make up the fact that 1 dollar is only 10 eurocent. If you send me 10.000 dollar I will send you 1500 euro. You make a profit of 500 euro. Does that sound like a good deal?? Now work from there and make up more BS and then a government that works like that. See a problem yet???
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  389. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Why can't you do it?
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  390. No they are not sceptical. The just ignore the presented EVIDENCE
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  391. The earth is round. Why?? GRAVITY!!! ffs.
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  392.  @diemjordinlifestyle126  Sorry kid but don't try to tell a mariner that all his OWN observations are just because somebody told him. Celestial navigation proves the globe. Ever handles a sextant?? Ever done the sight reduction math? Flat earth has no valid points.
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  393.  @diemjordinlifestyle126  The globe was proven 2300 years ago. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Looks like you need an education.
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  394.  @conradmbugua9098  No, you CLAIM to have a brain. I have never seen your brain. It is just CGI.
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  395.  @bewickkingofthenorth1600  What is a lazer?
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  396. You are not interested in the truth.
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  397. Prove it, kid. #GottaLieToFlerf
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  398.  @justintime6336  So you chose to ignore the EVIDENCE I provided and hand wave it away without even testing it. I don't care. I'm used to that when flerfs can't debunk it they chose to ignore it. Why would I need more tests and experiments when we have proven the globe for over 2500 years with test and experiments?? We know how it works, we know how the tests work and why. Brian mullin, OYG that delusional flerf that failed to prove anything????? You fell for the BS he produced?? Now.. you made a claim. "I'm merely suggesting a lot of things don't make sense with a ball earth." So where does your knowledge fail and your understanding of basic physics?? Be specific. Write it all down what you think is wrong. And start collecting EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  399. OYG.. the horizon rises ALWAYS to eye level??? You did not test that crap argument, did you. TEST THINGS BEFORE MAKING SILLY ASSERTIONS!!! https://flatearth.ws/bottled-water#more-2736
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  400. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  401. Your truth is not THE TRUTH. The bible is no science book. It is full of BS.
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  402. You failed to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Why is that?
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  403. Flerfs have no proof or evidence for their delusions.
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  404. Yes you are.
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  405.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  406. No, it mentions an egg shape.
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  407.  @lumithelapphund6990  Just rip out all the electronics :)
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  408.  @waleedalsuleimani6854  Still no EVIDENCE for a flat earth presented by you. All we got was siily nervous laughing because you don't have anything.
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  409. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  410. Airshow!!!
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  411. Flat earth is not a community, it is a CULT of science deniers.
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  412.  @dirkardostevergreen4827  KngenAlec is a grifter with a "magic" water scam.
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  413.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  414. Have you already found that a level doesn't work without gravity, kid?
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  415. About the same Dubay paid you to post here.
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  416. Nope, D marble is really that dumb.
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  417.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  418.  @patrickhickman8723  You still have to prove your silly flat earth claims.
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  419.  @patrickhickman8723  To bad then that I am not religious. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  420.  @dab5800  Everybody that calls it a jab in an anti vaxxer. Be more like Rob Skiba.
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  421.  @andrewjohnson6716  And that is why we will ignore you. Stay on topic dude. The shape of the earth. I need a T-bone steak now or some other piece of dead cow. You made me hungry.
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  422. And what god would that be today? Your god?? Why not ODIN?
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  423. Does your brain heart from your cognitive dissonance? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  424.  @rp7159  Yep, we know what book. Happy potter books are also 100% true. because they are books.
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  425. No wonder you are a flerf. The bible is no sciencebook, kid. It is filled with lies and B$.
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  426. Try again Bring EVIDENCE . BTW. we KNOW it is a globe, we know it's dimensions.
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  427. So you failed at your research. Got it.
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  428. Prove it!!
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  429. Looks like you don't even know in what direction down is. Learn some basic physics.
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  430. No, we KNOW* the earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 rpm. That is really slow. once per day, it causes night and day. Try again, kid.
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  431. Next time you are in surgery, tell the surgeon to take of his mask. You just want that Darwin Award.
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  432.  @FlatEarth-q1f  Why don't you show me a video where you zoom in on a ship that is over the horizon and you bring it back in to full view. No flerf has ever done that.
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  433. It is simple. Just watch ships disappear hull first. Or a sunset.
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  434. There are only 2 kind of people in this "discussion" Lying flerfs and normal people. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. So want to try again kid? You should stop getting your info from a NEO-NAZI yoga teacher that has no EVIDENCE for his claims..
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  435. SCIENTIFIC THEORY BTW, the globe is a FACT
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  436. No shit, Sherlock. :)
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  437. Been around the globe on ships. plus all navigation.
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  438. Go and study Aerodynamics. Planes can not go unlimited up. No air, no lift. No speed no airflow, no lift.
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  439.  @Beinspiredmusic  Like you eating all conman BS???
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  440. Yes you are.
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  441. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. What edge?
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  442. Try again. kid. The earth is a globe, We checked for over 2000 years.
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  443. Flerfs never present EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  444. We measure a rotating earth all the time.
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  445. There is no need to go up in to space. Just measure distances between city's. Those distances do not fit on a flat earth. Navigation has proven the globe.
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  446.  @Globeisahoax  Why do you listen to a NEO-NAZI yoga teacher that only has BS? Are you also a NEO-NAZI??
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  447.  @comatose3788  I don't care about your views/opinion. You blocked the channel. *STAY away.
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  448.  @comatose3788  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  449.  @kenpope5701  An observation has nothing to do with feelings, kid. I observe curvature every time I observe a lighthouse from some distance.
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  450. Look up what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is.
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  451. FFS, use your brain.
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  452.  @user-qh2cx3ng7d  How about these MEASUREMENTS. Earth Acceleration due to gravity (standard) _ _ _ _= 980.665 centimeters per second per second= 32.1740 feet per second per second Mass-ratio—Sun/Earth __________= 332,958 Mass-ratio—Sun/(Earth & Moon) _ _ _ _ _ _ = 328,912 Mass-ratio—Earth/Moon _________= 81.30 Mean density______________= 5.517 grams per cubic centimeter Velocity of escape____________= 6.94 statute miles per second Curvature of surface ___________= 0.8 foot per nautical mile World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811 Eccentricity (e = (2f – f2)1/2)________= 0.081819191Eccentricity squared (e2) _________= 0.006694380
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  453. Oblate spheriod.
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  454.  @flatplaneoregon7075  Our globe model explains all observations. YOU have no model. What more evidence doe you want, kid? YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR A FLAT EARTH!!!
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  455.  @salamjihad3449  More BS. Present *EVIDENCE*!! Measurements and data. Video is not evidence. Remember? It is all CGI.
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  456. Needs more typo's and emojis. 1/10
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  457. Is Google broken where you live?? Why would we take the trouble to show you photo''s again?? So that you can scream CGI and FAKE!!!! Why don't YOU get to work and present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reallity and can be used for navigation.? How a bout a model that works?
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  458. Do you remeber Bob Knodel and his 20.000 dollar gyro that showed a 15 degree per hour drift? Nobody can see ships 60 to 129 miles away when they stand on the shoreline. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Mis representing that court case is not going to help you. That case was about the bey and not about the shape of the earth.
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  459. It might be smart of you to start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Up till now every flerf failed to do that because they have no thinking brain. That goes for you to. Instead of a silly rant you could have presented EVIDENCE for a flat earth. YOU DID NOT do that. Could it be you have nothing??? Could it be your whole notion of a flat earth is based on your faith?? We all know what faith is: It is believing things that have no EVIDENCE or even EVIDENCE to the contrary. And you are the one talking about prejudice??? OYG that is rich.
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  460. Sorry, kid. It is not believing but KNOWING. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  461. It comes from MEASURING things. Something flerfs never do.
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  462. Why don't you learn about navigation and how to get in the shortest distance from A to B. You will very fast find out that those flights all fly a straight line, called a Great Circle Route. Just get a globe and a string to check.
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  463.  @yestervue4697  How would the earth block the moon?? We KNOW the distance to the moon. We have tested it with radar and laser. Englad and australia are not on exact opposite side of the globe. England is on 0 deg. The international datumline is east of New Zealand. So.. Still possible. Try again and think this time before you type silly comments.
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  464.  @yestervue4697  LOL. You just proved the globe with your moon example. And the funny part is that you did not even understand what you just proved.
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  465.  @syedhussain3004  Your book is also claiming it is egg shaped. So what is it kid? You are just presenting more arguments to stay away from religions. Just stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner. Run away now, kid.
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  466.  @therealzilch  Btw.. Tik Tok?? So a video from sleeping warrior who is targeting kids with his flat earth BS is proof of something.... We already know he tries that all the time.
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  467.  @187211undisputed  Get your sextant out and make a video about it. You will notice that polaris drops one degree for every 60 nautical miles you go south.
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  468.  @Mornomgir  Looks like it worked. Put the second line behind the google drive link. That should give you the file. Flerf fail 6.txt.
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  469. Why would a plane fly to space when the wings can't produce lift in a very thin atmoSPHERE? Level still doesn't mean flat.
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  470. Most flerfs are trump supporters.
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  471. You forgot to look out of the window. On many flights, they would give away leveling devices to all passengers for free, so that everyone would be able to observe the dip of the horizon and proves Earth is a sphere. And as a nice side effect, to quench our thirsts, too! Such devices are called ‘bottled water’. Using these simple ‘instruments’ on a flight, we can demonstrate that Earth is a sphere. By drinking half of the water in a bottle of water, we can use the bottle as a simple leveling device. Firmly close the bottle, hold the bottle horizontally, and aim for the horizon line, all while keeping our eyes level with the surface of water inside the bottle. If weather condition allows it, it is not hard to observe that the horizon is below the eye level. The phenomenon is called the dip of the horizon, and can only occur with such magnitude if Earth is a sphere. Flat-Earthers repeatedly assert that “horizon always rises to eye level, no matter how high we are from the surface.” Using these simple ‘instruments,’ it is trivial to prove them wrong.
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  472. Go play outside, kid.
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  473.  @michaelward878  Sorry kid but why are you unable to answer my very simple question?
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  474. Have you found a true religion? Do tell us about it.
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  475. To bad you have no EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  476. Earth is a lot bigger than you think.
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  477. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  478. What about it?
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  479. Wanna claim that every airport should have a direct flight to every other airport? Have you ever heard a bout economics"? Wanna fty that route?? Charter a plane, loser.
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  480. BS.
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  481. go play outside, kid.
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  482.  @FerventReminder  Just be more like Rob Skiba.
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  483.  @theconductoresplin8092  Just beer. QAgain, Is it a right to invent your own facts? You did not answer my question. Do you need an other kick in the nuts?
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  484.  @theconductoresplin8092  Lie it is a human right to get kicked in the nuts?
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  485. Inventing your own facts in not a human right.
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  486. Believes conmen on YT. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  487. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  488. I observed a globe earth. No one ever told me it is round. Try again when you have better argument like you typed.
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  489. I look outside and see a curving ocean one degree per 60 nautical mile. You have no common sense.
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  490. And horizons.
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  491. Oblate spheroid.
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  492. The bible is no science book. It is filled with lies and B$. Just saying.
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  493.  @tbrown3356  Still breating???? You can't deny the atmoSPERE. Atmospheric phenomena are well known. Winds, Clouds, rainbows, fog, refraction and mirages, etc...
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  494. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  495. So, the bible is 100% the truth?? You got to prove that. True science proved the earth is a ROTATING globe, orbiting the sun.
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  496. Oblate spheroid!!
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  497.  @Zripas  GOUDA!!!
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  498.  @Globeisahoax  YOU do not have a brain. Show me a photograph of it. X-rays are all CGI!!!!!
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  499. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Looks you are just an ignorant relitard that can not handle the truth.
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  500. Ok, suggestion. Present EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Show us a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation. Show us the model of the flat earth that explains all observations. Prove that gravity doesn't exist. Walk of a tall building and float away. I will be on the sidewalk with your Darwin award.
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  501. So.. the bible mentions NASA because NASA was around more than 2000 years ago?? OYG!!!! So Erathostenes was a mason and the iluminati have corrupted the world to cause a world wide flood THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!!! Amazing how RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING Hitch was right about that. P.S. the bible is no science book. It is not even a moral book. Your god is a massmurderer and you worship a massmurderer.
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  502. Try again, kid.
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  503. To bad then that Eric Dubay lies all the time. There are no guards on the south pole. Eric Dubay is just a conman.
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  504. There is nothing to debate. The earth is a globe. Flerfs have never presented any EVIDENCE for their delusion. The shape of the earth is not an opinion that can be debated. The globe is a FACT.
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  505. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You could start by MEASURING THINGS kid.
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  506. HYPOTHESIS. Not a theory. Theories have EVIDENCE
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  507. You mean the rejection of EVIDENCE .
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  508. You are free to believe all the crap you want. You are not entitled to your own FACTS .
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  509. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE next time.
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  510.  @pub1iuz  Arguments from personal incredulity have no value. Want to claim a flat earth? Then YOU have to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  511. Sorry kid. In my years at sea I have seen many things that are impossible on a flat earth. I have learned Celestial Navigation and the calculations that are needed to get a position. I learned how to calculate a course and how to plot it. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. You can't even present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reallity and can be used for navigation.
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  512. Then what are all those people doing on Antarctica??
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  513. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  514.  @Globeisahoax  When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Still getting your information from a NEO-NAZI yoga teacher??
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  515.  @nevencuca1680  Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. That you failed at basic physics, geography and geometry is not my problem. Now run along and get an education.
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  516.  @nevencuca1680  You can believe anything you want kid But you don't get to make op your own FACTS So you fail to understand basic physics, geography and geometry. We know exactly how the earth is shaped. Navigation proves that every day. Ships and planes keep arriving at their destinations. That would be impossible if we did not know the shape of the earth.
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  517.  @nevencuca1680  So an experiment has to be a law??? A SCIENTIFIC THEORY is the explanations of a natural phenomenon that is tested by experiments and backed up by laws of nature. A law never becomes a theory. Law of gravity. Newton's law of universal gravitation is usually stated as that every particle attracts every other particle in the universe with a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers. Compare that with the einstein SCIENTIFIC THEORY* "space-time is a 4-dimensional Hausdorff differential manifold, on which a metric tensor is imposed that solves the Einstein field equations, and that metric tensor gives rise to geodesics, and objects that are not experiencing any other force will move along the geodesics described by that metric." Now get a decent dictionary for the big words you don't understand A SCIENTIFIC THEORY is the highest an explanation can become. Why don't you look things up in a decent dictionary???
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  518.  @Globeisahoax  The Ford Motor Company destroyed the technology to make a model-T Must be a conspiracy from all car manifacturers to get more money.
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  519.  @nevencuca1680  Cavendish experiment, Schiehallion experiment, etc...
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  520. Now tell me how a mechanical gyro compass works.
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  521. What arguments? Those from personal incredulity and ignorance? Those have no value.
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  522.  @aroj745  Is that about that rock that was tested by using the wrong methode? Yea we know about that hoax. It was a deliberate silly attempt by creationists. to mislead us.
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  523. Sponge tissue??? Citation needed. I think you listened to much to religious nutcases like inmate #06452-017 and that guy with the inflatable banana in his backyard he calls Dr. Peel.
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  524.  @KangenAlec  < is just a TROLL.
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  525. Sorry but flerfs are losing.
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  526. Yep, that was the idea. He misjudged the size and did not know about the America's.
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  527. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. No need to go to space.
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  528.  @richardrupert7046  You forgot to read those papers. You forgot some words in those papers of things you deny. One of those is G for gravity in the formulae used in the papers. So, make up your mind. You cant use those papers to prove a flat earth and deny gravity.
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  529.  @richardrupert7046  Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  530.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  NASA, Founded in 1958. Navigation with a sextant. Precise and accurate sinds the 18'th century. The invention of the chronometer made it possible. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. No NASA required. We see to far??? Ignoring atmospheric phenomena again?? Using the same wrong math again??? Refraction is always there. Some days more than other. Why don't you see what YOU are up against? 3000 years of science. And you think you know it all?? WOW. you are just stupid.
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  531. And???
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  532.  @philaypeephilippotter6532  You assume they have a mind. Please stop that,. They are just crazy.
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  533. Sorry boy but navigators KNOW . It is their job to know.
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  534. "beliefs" have nothing to do with the shape of the earth. We only care about what you can prove. All flerfs fail at that point. That is why they lie a lot.
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  535. Now look up "one more orbit" Nice flight over the north pole and over the south pole. Try again. Denial is not an argument.
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  536. Sorry kid but all my PERSONAL observations are impossible on a flat earth. A few years traveling the globe and crossing oceans on ships have shown me a lot.
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  537. Plane that have their nose down while landing are the ones crashing.
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  538. And how do you know that it is only told to me?? Explain to me how i KNOW the earth is an oblate spheroid. You seem to know everything about me.
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  539. No you don't.
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  540. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  541. The BOWDITCH!!!!
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  542. Yes it matters to all shipping and airplane companies.
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  543. Go play outside, kid.
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  544. Why can't I see England from the Dutch coast? Un a flat earth that would not be a problem. Btw, that sticker is only found in the lands of the relitards that deny reality.
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  545. Nothing fails like prayer. Now.... Why are relitards like you lying so much all the time? Is that because you are raised to lie or does that come natural? Lying for your god is still lying. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  546.  @fepatriot  Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Prove me wrong.
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  547. I'll steal that for my flerf burn list ;) Here is one in return.: A guy is waiting for brain surgery, a very risky procedure. The surgeon gives him the option of a brain transplant if he pays privately, his insurance wont cover it. He is offered the brain of Einstein for 1 million pounds, (it has been kept in deep freeze but is still viable) and a flat earthers' brain for 10 million pounds. he asks why is the FE's brain so expensive compared to Einstein's. the surgeon replies "Well the FE's brain has never been used and has been washed."
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  548.  @ilovethroatbabies3194  It is very clear from your comment. "white man's government" Yep, that makes you a racist.
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  549. The northstar is not constant. It moves. Observed, documented and tested. 2000 years ago polaris was Thuban designation Alpha Draconis (α Draconis, abbreviated Alpha Dra, α Dra), is a star (or star system) in the constellation of Draco. A relatively inconspicuous star in the night sky of the Northern Hemisphere, it is historically significant as having been the north pole star from the 4th to 2nd millennium BC. Precession and Nutation The Earth's axis precesses: the motion of its rotation axis is similar to that of a top spinning with its axis tilted. The precession is in response to torques principally by the Sun and Moon. The spinning Earth responds to these torques in the manner of a gyroscope. The result is a slow westward movement of the equinoxes and solstices. This westward motion of the equinoxes along the ecliptic is called precession of the equinoxes. The precession has a period of about 25,800 years. There are also a series of short period motions of the Earth's axis of rotation called nutation. The nutations are all quite small. The largest nutation has an amplitude of 0.'2 and a period of 18.6 years. The next largest nutation has an amplitude of just 0.'01 and a period of 0.5 years. The sidereal hour angle is measured from the vernal equinox, and declination from the celestial equator, so the coordinates of celestial bodies change because of precession. The total motion with respect to the ecliptic, called general precession, is about 50."29 per year. It may be divided into two components with respect to the celestial equator: precession in right ascension (about 46."12 per year) measured along the celestial equator, and precession in declination (about 20."04 per year) measured perpendicular to the celestial equator. The annual change in the coordinates of any given star, due to precession alone, depends upon its position on the celestial sphere. Since precession changes the direction of Earth's pole, Polaris will not always be Earth's “Pole Star”. Currently, the north celestial pole is moving closer to Polaris because of precession. It will pass at a distance of approximately 28' about the year 2102. Afterward, the polar distance will increase, and eventually other stars, in their turn, will become the Pole Star. Apparent Motion due to Movement of other Celestial Bodies Each celestial body makes its own contribution to its apparent motion: The Moon revolves about the Earth each month, rising in the west and setting in the east. Its orbital plane is slightly inclined to the ecliptic (see Section 1319), and is continuously changing in response to perturbations in its motion, primarily by the Sun. The planets revolve about the Sun (technically, the solar system barycenter, which is within the sun's interior). The inferior planets, Mercury and Venus, appear to move eastward and westward relative to the Sun. The period for Mercury's motion is 116 days and the period for Venus is 584 days. The superior planets make an apparent revolution around the Earth, from west to east. The periods for their motion varies from 780 to 367 days, depending on the planet. The stars revolve about the galactic center. As they move about the galactic center, the stars, including the Sun, move with respect to one another. The component of their motion across the line of sight is called proper motion. The maximum observed proper motion is that of Barnard's Star, which is moving at the rate of 10.3 seconds of arc per year. Barnard's Star is a tenth-magnitude star, not visible to the unaided eye. Rigil Kentaurus has the greatest proper motion of the 57 stars listed on the daily pages of the almanacs, about 3.7 seconds per year. Arcturus has the greatest proper motion of the navigational stars in the Northern Hemisphere, 2.3 seconds per year. Over the course of a few years, proper motions are very small; they can be ignored when reducing celestial navigation sights. A few thousand years of proper motion is sufficient to materially alter the look of some familiar constellations.
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  550. Try again. Prove evolution doesn't happen.
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  551.  @alexbereczki2267  No, just the ART of calculating distances on the globe, calculation what direction to go, Calculating your position from sextant observations, There is no need to fly over Antarctica. There are no city's that need a flight that goes over antarctica. Want to walk on Antarctica?? climb mountains?? Just go ahead. Prep your walk good. Resque will not get you if you sprain a wrist. Just go there and walk around in -40deg, and bad weather. Just fill in the paperwork and go. Nobody is stopping you.
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  552. EVIDENCE??
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  553. Go troll somewhere else, kid.
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  554. What edge?
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  555. Your arguments from personal incredulity and ignorance have no value. Armstrong never gave interviews???
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  556. To bad you have no EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  557. Ignoring the problem doesn't solve anything. Idiocracy spreads like a virus.
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  558. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  559. There is no flat earth theory. It even fails to be a hypothesis.
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  560. Nope, we are just eliminating false beliefs. That is how science works. Disprove BS. What is left is reality.
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  561. We stil have no proof that flerfs think.
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  562. Earth is still a globe.
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  563. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE . The bible is no science book.
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  564. So it is ok when those idiots start targeting kids like they are doing some time now?? Remember that these people also vote and when there are enough the decide what kids learn in school. Still think it is harmless??
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  565. OBLATE SPHEROID, kid. The earth is not an perfect sphere. Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles
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  566. horizon canal experiment... Eh.. WTF are you talking about??
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  567.  @darthchungus9964  Could it be that it matches reality??? We can use it do make predictions and then check those. It always works fine. How is you knowledge of navigation? Now as for flat earth..... There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  568. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  569. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  570. So your history book was also full with BS. People knew the earth was a globe . It was proven 2300 years ago. Columbus only thought the globe was smaller and wanted to find a alternative route to India. That explains why native Americans are called indians. Do research before typing BS.
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  571. Btw, watching YT video from conmen is not research.
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  572.  @danielzhivkov1187  You are not presenting any EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Why is that??
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  573. Sorry kid be who is stopping you to go to the poles?? Could it be you are just scared? You don't have the money to go there? Where in the Antarctic treaty is it mentioned nobody can go there? Did you even read the treaty??
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  574. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  575. Nope, We tested it all. We have the EVIDENCE for the rotating globe.
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  576. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  577. It even fails as a hypothesis.
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  578. Evolution is one of the best researched subjects. Lying there would quickly be exposed these days. Creationists try to debunk it all the time. They got exposed for their lies.
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  579. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Prove me wrong. Bye.
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  580. More reasons not to believe the BS in "holy" books.
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  581. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. BTW, be more like Rob Skiba.
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  582. It can not be flat. Learn some basic physics. Learn some basic astronomy. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  583.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a bored kid. Nothing more.
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  584.  @jonvawter918  What "dome" Jon.
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  585. What "dome" Jon?
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  586. "looks like" is not the same as KNOWING or *MEASURING*.
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  587. Your brain?? Yes we know.
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  588.  @anthonyhuerta8780  Do you believe the earth is flat and motionless???? I still do not see any evidence for that from you or any other flerf.
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  589.  @anthonyhuerta8780  I gave you the mechanical gyro compass. Now research why it works.
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  590. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Just tell me how a mechanical gyro compass is able to point to true south. Research how a mechanical gyro compass works.
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  591.  @Globeisahoax  Do you have EVIDENCE you have a BRAIN?? Show us the x-ray. No not the CGI one. The real one.
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  592. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  593.  @KangenAlec  < Is just a TROLL.
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  594. Are you claiming that EVEY airport must have flights to *EVERY other airport??? Could it be that the international airport in South Africa is Johanisberg???? Have you ever heard about hubs, etc????
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  595. All light bends due to refraction.
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  596.  @grantgilpin5672  I am waiting for you to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Be smart, kid. Just stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner that has seen to many things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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  597. There is no flat earth model You only proved ancients did not know a lot.
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  598. Try again. Present EVIDENCE . Proof is from math. Math has proven a globe.
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  599.  @josesolis-ib3vf  I don't care what people believe. You can not see the 0.3% difference in diameter on a small photo. You better start measuring yourself.
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  600.  @luigicirelli2583  There is no dome so nothing to be ashamed about. When are you going to show photo's of that dome, kid??
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  601.  @2tonedangert891  all stars move all the time. The amount they move is to little for you to observe in your lifetime. Buy a telescope and start observing Barnard's star. That is a fast one that changes enough in 10 years to notice. It will move about 1.7 arc minute over 10 years. Looks like you are arguing from a position of personal incredulity and parroting flerf arguments. Satellite phone work fine in remote areas. The problem is that you are thinking a normal cell phone is a satellite phone. You are not a monkey you were never a monkey. You are an APE, just like the rest of us. Looks like you need a lot of education. Be smart and go back to school. Go to a decent one this time.
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  602.  @2tonedangert891  So you did not make a claim?? "Anyone with a thinking brain...knows the world is Flat. " Aren't those your words? Now Start presenting EVIDENCE for that.
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  603.  @2tonedangert891  Sunsets, Range of lighthouses out to sea, Celestial Navigation. Great circle courses, etc. What do you have??? Ah... NOTHING!!!!
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  604. You forgot to think again.
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  605.  @MultiChaoticus  When are you going to research anything??
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  606. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  607. What about all those video's from flerfs lying their asses of because they are stupid?
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  608. Got to lie to flerf.
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  609. Pointless, nothing to measure there.
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  610.  @khenbornagain  The north star is also not constant. We are on a cycle that lasts 26.000 year in witch the pole star changes. 2000 years ago the polestar was thuban. In 4000 years we have an other star as pole star. Look up precession of the equinoxes. Precession of earth's axis Right now we are in the age of aquarius. It will change again over ~26000/12 years.
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  611.  @khenbornagain  All the stars you see are very close to us and in our galaxy. Most of them are with us in the same spiral arm. Just think of it as a 200 lane traffic jam and you are in the middle of it. All the cars hardly move in respect to you but it is all moving at 1 km/h. The car next to you will be there a very long time.
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  612.  @spartanspeedruns8386  BTW. Provide * SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE* for the EXISTANCE of a god. You have NONE!!!
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  613.  @spartanspeedruns8386  The bible is a collection of stolen myths and story's. There is no EVIDENCE for a world wide flood, moses and adam and eve. Try again boy. Present EVIDENCE for it. There is no *VIDENCE for that flood and I can check that with my bike and just go out to the neolithic monuments that are all over europe,. YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE for it. You fail again just as every religious nut that challenges the EVIDENCE we have.
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  614. What EVIDENCE do you have for a flat earth? When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  615. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Fixed in place??? Prove it, kid.
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  616. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  617.  @Globeisahoax  Be more like Rob Skiba.
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  618. Start a theme park with rides over the edge. You are going to be rich.
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  619. Show me photo's of that solid firmament, kid. Show me photo's of the edge.
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  620. There is no such thing as a flat earth theory. It is not even a hypothesis.
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  621. Why would we?? There is never any evidence in there. All we see is dumb people with arguments from personal incredulity. Defending their "belief" with the bible or quran. Kind of pointless. We KNOW better.
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  622. Ok, here is you chance. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  623.  @mohdadeeb1829  I don't care what "they" say.
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  624. Columbus set out to find a west route to India. Not to prove the globe. He wanted a shorter rout that did not involve going all he way round africa. That is why the indigenous inhabitants of the America's are called indians. Columbus knew earth is a globe, he misjudged the size.
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  625.  @Faith_Obedience  one of the people in the community actually purchased one for $20,000 but what we found is is when we turned on that gyroscope we found that we were picking up a drift a 15-degree per hour drift . Thanks, Bob. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFMO4BQgbM Thank Jeran for proving the curve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLcOOnX8eTQ
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  626.  @Faith_Obedience  The goatherders guide to the universe is not a science book. It was written by people that had no knowledge how and why things work.
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  627. To bad then it is proven wrong.
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  628. Religious BS and failed schools.
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  629. Eric Dubay's "200 proofs" are already debunked a few times. Want to see it again?? Go to Greater sapien and see how Eric lies all he time.
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  630. First of all The globe is a FACT . Flat earth fails even as a hypothesis. It has been proven wrong everytime. Second of all, look up what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is befor you ever use that word again. Those NASA" manuals are not manuals but studies of plane design and the calculations. They removed all the unnecessary things and assume a flat non moving earth because it is not important for the study. Be harder to trick LORI Next time READ those scientific studies before you make silly comments. Btw.. the bible is no science book and is filled with myth , lies and BS. There is no info about the shape of the earth in the bible. Only metaphores.
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  631. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  632.  @truthbetold9092  Do you understand that those photo's look different because they are not made with the same camera and the same lens at at different distances? You can not compare a photo from a low orbit weather satellite with a photo from a geostationary satellite and expect the show exactly the same. Btw the is an easier way to prove the globe. You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  633.  @chichomrt6459  You "truth seekers" are not interested in the truth. Try again when you have EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  634. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  635. How about YOU provide EVIDENCE for a flat earth?? When are you going to do that?
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  636. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. The heliocentric solar system was proven 500 years ago.
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  637. Light is refracted, kid. Why can you never see the base of the buildings?
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  638. So you claim he "thinks" OYG.
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  639. a "real" answer??? The earth is an oblate spheroid. *FACT!!*.
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  640.  @TheKonnoisseur11  So you want to interview a conman because of reciepts.???
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  641. And, tell me, WHY would anybody want to interview a neo-nazi-conmand that hides in thailand and runs away from all discussions about the crap he produces??
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  642. Columbus set out to find an alternative route to the east indies. I don't care what your history book claims. He knew the earth is a globe. This is the main reason indians are called indians instead of native americans. Columbus only got the size wrong.
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  643.  @lagresomadsl  You can believe whatever you want but you can not make up your own "FACTS"
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  644. GRAVITY!!!!!
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  645. Nope. the globe was proven 230 BCE. Copernicus kicked out the geocentric model. He proved that the sun is the center of the solar system. You can't even get your facts straight.
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  646. Show us all how a telescope can see around a curved ball?? You failed to do that.
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  647. You mean the small water bubbles from the cooling system??
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  648. There are no experiments that give evidence for a flat earth. Bob Knodel proved rotation. Jeran Campanella proved curve. They reject their own experiments. Both are just conmen.
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  649. Now prove all your claims.
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  650. What flat earth map?? Oh you mean some AE map. There is no flat earth map. I even have an AE map with my radio station as center.
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  651.  @YksiSuomalainen  Done a few times. Erathostenes with partisipants all over the globe. It proves a far away sun over a globe..
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  652.  @pedroohm5115  I still have that bridge. Wanna buy it? It is real cheap.
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  653.  @pedroohm5115  So you believe things without EVIDENCE WOW... So you are gullible. Good to know. I have a bridge for sale, real cheap.
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  654.  @pedroohm5115  Try again. Present EVIDENCE for your assertions. Untill then you have only empty claims.
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  655. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  656. Try again. Bring evidence
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  657.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  Yea, that was a nice hoax video.
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  658. To bad then that your own senses can not be trusted. That is why we MEASURE things. Have you ever tried that???
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  659. What flat earth "truth" kid? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  660. On a flat earth all lighthouses would be just 10 meter tall and all would have a range out to sea of +5- nautical mile. Those do not exist. The range out to sea depend on the height of the light and conforms to the globe.
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  661. You did not present any EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Why is that? When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  662. When are you going to start presenting evidence for the flat earth, kid? Spamming B$ is not going to change reality.
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  663. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. There is ZERO EVIDENCE for a flat earth. What holes?? Name them. I bet is is all B$ and your failure in basic physics, geography and math.
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  664. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  665. Explain to me how a mechanical gyro compass is able to point to true south. Looks like you failed basic physics.
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  666. Word salad. Try again Bring EVIDENCE .
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  667. the total mass of the earth is only 0.02% water. My cats want a word with you.
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  668. one of the people in the community actually purchased one for $20,000 but what we found is is when we turned on that gyroscope we found that we were picking up a drift a 15-degree per hour drift . Thanks, Bob. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFMO4BQgbM A foucault pendulum at the northern hemiSPERE will precesses clockwise, on the southern hemiSPERE anti clockwise The time it takes is time of rotation of the earth / sin( latitude) So 23h 56'4.1"/ sin( latitude. That is 23 h 56'4.1"at the poles and NO presession at the equator. Tested and ferified with pendulums all over the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Foucault_pendulums Yep, it rotates. Tested many times.
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  669. ​ @maurojose9929  When you do an experiment, you have to do it correct. The bedford test was performed wrong and ignored all the atmospheric phenomena. You math is also wrong. 8 Inch per mile squared is the formula for a parabola. It is a rule of thumb and an estimation that can only be used for measuring ground and not for sight. Your arguments all fail.
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  670. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. #GottaLieToFlerf
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  671.  @lauragistlinck5607  Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. You don't need to fly high over the earth. We know all distances on the globe. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  672.  @lauragistlinck5607  The shape of the earth has nothing to do with beliefs or opinions. The shape of the earth is a *FACT*. It is a globe. Nobody has the right to make up his own facts.
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  673. Ok.. Feast on this. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  674.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  675. No, The question is "can you present EVIDENCE for a flat earth??
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  676. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument.
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  677.  @FlatzoidsPerspective  And you are failzoid? The one with the missing.. How much frames was it you cut out of that video??? 13, 14?? I still do not see any EVIDENCE for a flat earth from you. Why is that?
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  678. Why? You fail all the time to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth
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  679. Everybody can repeat hat experiment. It fact it is done a lot. It still proves a globe earth.
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  680. You will thing about that when you hear that the PILOT of your flight is a flerf. Flerfs can not navigate so you will end up somewhere you did not want to go.
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  681. What god, kid? The bible is no evidence for anything, kid.
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  682.  @drackxman  You wonder why he did that level test?? Because he is a moron. No matter where you are on the globe, down is toward the center of the globe.
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  683. Down is toward the center of the globe. No matter where the plane is, it is always above the center of the globe so the bubble doesn't need to change. It is a silly pointless test.
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  684.  @janagax  BTW, being a mariner is mostly very boring. You see the biggest part of the globe is Ocean. Only when you have the time when in a port you can go to shore and see the sights. So that is just a few hours per month is you do long trips like PG to Japan, Thailand or Australia, etc. I only had one trip that we were in an other port every day. Just on a small product tanker supplying fuel etc all around lake Maracaibo and one trip per month to Curacao for supplies.
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  685. Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 RPM. Earth has gravity.
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  686.  @gerryrice4848  You need to talk to Bob Knodel. one of the people in the community actually purchased one for $20,000 but what we found is is when we turned on that gyroscope we found that we were picking up a drift a 15-degree per hour drift . Thanks, Bob. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFMO4BQgbM That would be the religious nut in Globebusters. the fake pilot/ the fake whatever... Bob is a loser.
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  687.  @flamethrowers1853  So.. you can't answer the navigation question. You are just a liar like the rest of the flat earthers. Constellations A lot more than than 7 and 12. 57 stars , planets and the moon and sun. So you fail at that one to. You never done any celestial navigation. You just keep lying You have never seen a Nautical Almanac. If you did you would know that all stars move. Even polaris is not fixed. But your religion is more important than the truth. We see that a lot with types like you. Lying for jesus is important because it makes you feel good. You are not interested in the truth.
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  688.  @flamethrowers1853  Imaginary EVIDENCE for a flat earth is not real. Just face it. You have nothing. If you had you would have posted it by now. You are just a poe.
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  689.  @flamethrowers1853  Lets see. celestial Navigation.. Have you ever done that?? Do you know what you are observing??? Fixed stars?? Where?? All stars move. Here is the Nautical Almanac of a few years. Find me a star that has not moved in a year.
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  690.  @flamethrowers1853  Imaginairy lines...Are you talking about latitude and longitude lines?? The way we mark coördinates on the globe?? Do you remember that they all are in degrees??? BTW.. have you ever done Celestial Navigation?? Making observations with a sextant and do the sight reduction calculations with NON-Euclidian (ball) math??? I don't think so. Still waiting for my course Whangarei to Guayaquil. You keep failing. You made the claim to be a navigator. What is taking so long?? Lost your calculator? Or.. You are no NAVIGATOR. Just face it. All you have is BS and arguments from personal incrredulity.
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  691.  @flamethrowers1853  from Sydney, due east. So just go east. I end up in south america at a spot I can reach faster using a Great Circle Course. Sydney to LA would put me on a NE course. So no SE to NW. Just NE across the pacific. Prove me wrong and plot it and show me.
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  692. So Australia to California is impossible Like Sydney to L.A.??? The distance between Sydney, AUSYD and Los Angeles, USLAX is 6535NM on sea and journey time is 22 days 16 hours at 12 knots. Passing Suva.
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  693.  @flamethrowers1853  You mean YOU can not navigate on a globe. I can. Round maps are all also projections. Right ascension and dec is measured on a sphere. Remember what degrees are?? RA and dec are in degrees. Sight reduction of sextant observations are all done with NON-Euclidian ( BALL) math. You don't knoew how that works but everybody can learn that. WOW.. so you are a NAVIGATOR!!!! LOL. Solve this boy. I have a ship in Marsden Point (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Ecuador). 35 56' 14" S 174 50'02"E to 2 55' 27"S 80 42'11"W. What course must I steer for the shortest route? How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots?? How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/day Plot it on a map and show me. Include distance and time. Be the first flerf that completes this challange.
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  694.  @flamethrowers1853  Celestial Navigation fake?? LOL. You have to prove that. It works fine all the times I did it. I always ended up close to what the GPS or SATnav told. I don't care that australia is called down under. That is just the northern hemiSPHERE BIAS. So.. Again. Present EVIDENCE for your claims or the are just BS.
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  695.  @flamethrowers1853  Nope. There is no northpole on top. That is your northern hemiSPHERE bias. There is no ABSOLUTE Up and down. Every map of the earth could just as good be south up. We do measure curve all the time. Navigation over long distances uses Great Circle Courses. They prove the globe EVERYDAY. Airplanes and ships arrive at their destination after calculated distances and time. All distances on the globe are known. They don't fit on a flat earth. So.. Try again and bring EVIDENCE for your claims this time. Denial of facts in not helping you. You have to present EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  696. There is NO absolute up and down. Up is not north and down is not south. Ignoring basic physisc is not helping you.
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  697. Remember that these idiots vote. Do you really want a country run by conspiracy idiots??
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  698.  @chrisross4898  "with more science, we as a people are getting dumber." Why are you using a computer and the internet, Chris. Those things give you access to science. So you are the one getting dumber every time you use it. From all the BS you typed is is obvious that you are a religious nutcase that has no EVIDENCE for all his claims. Try again when you found some. Take your time. You flerfs are busy to find it for over 2500 years now We'll wait.
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  699.  @SalveMonesvol  Then be clear next time when you post a comment like you did.
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  700. So did the media lie when they say 2 + 2 = 4???
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  701. The quran did not say to fly panes in the twin towers.... Still, that happend. Where is the vese to blow your self up using a bomb vest?? Seems I missed that one. Where is the verse that makes it ok to behead somebody because you fail to use your brain?? Your religion of peace is only a religion of peace after you kill everybody that doesn't agree with you. Your religion keeps failing.
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  702. The bible is no science book.
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  703.  @kongo289  BTW, Flerfs have NEVER provided evidence for their pizza world.
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  704.  @kongo289  Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Try MEASURING THINGS first the next time before you make silly comments. Bye.
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  705.  @kongo289  World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811 We MEASURED , kid What have you ever measured?
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  706. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You have to do better, kid.
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  707. So, simmon made the 1968 Earthrise and the 1972 Blue Marble before he was born with a computer program that did not exist before 1988 on a computer that could not even make that kind of resolution. Did you know that there has been a survey before the canal was dug? You seen to think that level means flat all the time. Then tell me. is my blood sugar level flat or horizontal?? BTW. you guys never believe NASA sdo why are you believing NASA??? You have to do better, kid. You are failing hard.
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  708.  @neiljohnson7914  If you understand physics then you would KNOW that a flat earth is impossible. Nobody is walking upside down but you don't understand physics. That is why you make that silly comment about upside down walking. Just tell me, Why do you have this need to lie?
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  709.  @neiljohnson7914  Why would the walk upside down? You just claimed you understood physics. Looks like you lied about that.
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  710.  @neiljohnson7914  Then you would know that a flat earth is physical impossible. There is no discussion about it.
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  711.  @neiljohnson7914  So you are saying that you do not understand navigation that is all based on the globe? You don't understand that all maps are projections of the globe or a part of that? You don't understand basic math geography and geometry? How about basic physics?? Earth is a globe. That simple FACT was proven over 2000 years ago.
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  712.  @neiljohnson7914  It is very simple. You have the globe with all the tests, observations and measurements and than there is a hypothesis without tests, flawed observations, bad math and arguments from personal incredulity. So what do you think??? Pick a side.
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  713.  @dcgallin  scientists and explorers did go and found circumstances that were out of the ordinary...and then they died What did they find and how do you know when they died there? Project paperclip.... An operation from the USA to steal as much tech and technitians from Germany that they could get their hands on. Basically looting Germany, Just as the Russians did.
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  714. The curve start right at your feet while you look over an ocean. It curves one degree for every 60 nautical mile.
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  715. Did you have a stroke??
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  716.  @10kucold23  Why?
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  717. Prove it, kid.
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  718.  @bass9351  What god? Do you have EVIDENCE for the existence of a god? Show it. Send your god over to my house, he is omnicient so he knows where I live. I want a word with that god. So do the courts in the Hague. He need to appear there for his crimes against humanity.
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  719.  @truefree5666  You are just a religious nutcase. You can claim that you are not but you still worship a god. Worshiping a god is religion. You still have to provide EVIDENCE for that god. Evidence - the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. In other words, its something Christianity is lacking.
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  720.  @truefree5666  Btw.. you believe in 3 gods. Father, son and holy ghost. You are a polotheist. If they are the same than they don't need to be named seperately,. Try again.
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  721.  @truefree5666  Try again. Bring EVIDENCE . You failed again.
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  722.  @truefree5666  It is very clear why you are a flerf. You can not distinguish reallity from fantacy.
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  723.  @truefree5666  OYG.. I'M transaparent!!! That is why people don't see me. shm.. You have to do better boy. Skydaddy and his son is not going to do it. Btw.. daddy and son??? Polytheistic religion?? And a "holly ghost" ?? 3 of those???? Really. You have to do better. Bring EVIDENCE for all 3. btw.. jesus still has to cut the lawn. I know he is an illegal alien..
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  724.  @truefree5666  Jesus still has to mow my lawn. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  725.  @truefree5666  BTW.. did you check the height of all lighthouses and their range?? You didn't. As an ex sailor I KNOW they match the sphere. You are not able to prove anything. Face it. You can't een produce a map that conforms to reallity and can be used to navigate on.
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  726.  @truefree5666  No you can't pull fase information out of your ass because I would check every last bit. You keep failing to provide EVIDENCE for a flat earth. WHY IS THAT ???
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  727.  @truefree5666  Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  728. Sure kid I just love the amount of "evidence" you present for a flat earth. Oops there is none.
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  729. And how much RPM is the earth "spinning" kid??
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  730.  @Ruzzky_Bly4t  But they do not get to be inside the rocket. We duck-tape them to the engine bell of the second stage of a space-x rocket , nice in view of the camera's.
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  731. You are answered. Spamming is not going to change things.
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  732.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest??
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  733.  @Yeboii_Pig  Your "ideology"?? And what has that to do with the shape and size of the earth? Ideologies are just your opinions and opinions have nothing to do with reality, kid.
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  734.  @Yeboii_Pig  No matter what, You still fail to present evidence for a flat earth. We already know how most of it works. Looks like you know nothing. Looks like you failed basic physics.
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  735.  @Yeboii_Pig  No, There is no flat earth evidence. That YOU don't know anything about geography, geometry, navigation, astronomy and math is just your problem. What have you ever tested or measured?
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  736.  @Yeboii_Pig  Ok then... There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  737. Horizon from sealevel at 26 miles???? Show me a link.
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  738.  @heider9583  Prove to me that the ball is a religion. Who are the priests??? Where is our "holly "book" Do we rape children? etc.... We measured the whole planet. It took some time. it startyed in the 19th century and the last refinements are from 2004, afaik. Read all about it here. ftp://ftp.nga.mil/pub2/gandg/website/wgs84/NGA.STND.0036_1.0.0_WGS84.pdf Or age you now going to claim that survayors are just making thing up and Mt Everest isn't measured as the highes point above the land?? By the way.. the highest mountain measured from the center of the earth is Chimborazo. Mauna Kea is the tallest mountain in the world, measuring 10,200 m Yep, we measured it. The whole world is mapped by now.
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  739.  @heider9583  Sorry. most flat earther are theísts/christians from the backwaters of america. I have no religion. I have no believes. I have knowledge. Sure you want to try to tell a sailor the shape of the earth??? Give me your best evidence.
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  740. No, she is swindled by a known conman. A relitard that wants to live in 20 CE. To bad he lives in 2020 now and we know better.
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  741. What boat?? As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  742. Science gathers evidence and is never 100% proof. It keeps refining the evidence. Math is descriptions and is 100% proof That is the best I have for you as how it works. Now, as we know all distance on earth we have proof in the math.
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  743.  @Globeisahoax  << Just a TROLL
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  744.  @afterthestorm7012  Ever wonder why Dubay is kicked off YT a few times?? It was hate speach. Eric is an idiot. Me going to hell?? LOL. There is no EVIDENCE such a place exists. And about being close minded?? Lets put it this way. I have crossed oceans , learned how navigation works and seen all the EVIDENCE for the globe. No bible thumping fool can ever claim he knows because it is in the bible. That is being closeminded and failing to accept reallity.
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  745.  @afterthestorm7012  Btw.. look up what a SCIENTIFFIC THEORY is. Looks like you failed at that one to. And I still need that description of how a mechanical gyrocompass works.
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  746.  @afterthestorm7012  The Gleason map is a projection of the globe. It is PRINTED on the map that it is a PROJECTION The only use wor that map is time zones and determining a distance from the northpole. NOTHING MORE It can't be used to navigate because it has no scale. AE maps can only be used if the centerpoint is the point of origin. Ham Radio operators have those maps with their own location as center to determine the distance to the other ham. Now.. about your god...... SHOW me a real 4K video of your god making the universe from NOTHING. Flerf love video BS. Or..... You have to provide evidence for your god. Measurable, verifiable and valsifiable evidence. How about we get your boy in front of the UN where he can do a "miracle", say "all nukes no longer work" We want to see it live on CNN, We will examine if he is 2000 years old , etc... Then we will launch an ICBM next to your house with you in it. To test the "miracle" How is your "faith" holding up now??? I would like an ICBM on a titan missile, one of those that Wernher Von Braun designed.
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  747.  @afterthestorm7012  Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  748.  @afterthestorm7012  Why don't you explain to me how a mechanicakl gygo compass works?? YT video is all around and flerfs are just looking at them without testing anything. Flat earth is a joke. It fails as soon as you examine it. No map, no model , no flat earth You fail at everything. All you got is your personal incredulity about reallity.
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  749.  @afterthestorm7012  LOL.. you mentioned Gyroscopes on ships. Explain to me how a mechanical gyro compass works. Those are the ones we have on ships. You brought is as some kind of evidence so you claim to know how the work.
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  750.  @afterthestorm7012  Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  751. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  752. Yep, water never lies and that is why we see the oceans curve away from the observer in every direction. Just go out to the middle of any ocean and MEASURE it. You, as an observer, are on the apex of a huge ball.
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  753. Sill over 200 thousand years and you still fail to present EVIDENCE that the earth is flat.
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  754. Let's first define "outer space" Then just do the math. Space is not empty. You are really getting dumber by the day.
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  755.  Huw chardon  " 8 inches per mile squared means as 6ft tall man horizon distance 3 miles. World record shore to shore photographs 327 miles. ." Oops.. 8 "per mile^2 is a parabola and can't be use for calculating sight. That worldrecord photo is not from shore to shore but from a mountaintop to an other mountaintop. You fail again.
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  756. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  757. So you suck at history. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. Galileo was put in jail because he proved the heliocentric model.
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  758.  @chris73brown  FACT: all distances on the earth are known. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. FACT: As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. FACT:If the earth is flat then why are lighthouse so tall?? If the earth is flat there is no need to be taller that 10 meter to see a lighthouse at any distance up to 100 mile out to sea There are the lists of all lighthouses on the earth. Find me one that is 10 meter and a range of over 30 NM out to sea. FACT: NO flerf has ever presented EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  759.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  760. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  761. It also did not prove the earth is flat. It was about not using your brain.
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  762. IT is kind of pathetic that not one flerf can back up his claims. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. No need for NASA to prove the globe. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  763. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth. NO video or photo's , that is all CGI. Bring Measurements and data.
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  764.  @robdavidson2569  A flag is not a map. A logo is not a map. Just tell us all that you know nothing about navigation without saying you know nothing about navigation.
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  765. They are not.
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  766.  @chethouskeeper8928  I KNOW some people believe in things that they have no EVIDENCE for. Are you one of those'?? What lies have government told about the shape of the earth?? What governments and when??
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  767. Is that so? When given answers flerfs just ignore them.
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  768.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  769.  @phiteonn3541  " I do know it's not a spinning " You might want to have a word with Bob Knodel. He proved the rotation of the earth. Remember?? A 15 DEGREE PER HOUR DRIFT!!!! Thanks Bob.
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  770.  @phiteonn3541  Why would we debate Eric Dubay when he can not present EVIDENCE for a flat earth? His "200 proofs" have been debunked a few times. His new silly video "level" has brought nothing new. Just a collection of reallity deniers and dumb people making silly claims. Why don't YOU present some EVIDENCE instead of hiding behind a conman?
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  771. You can always learn geography.
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  772. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  773.  @Gottum365  Then why don't you start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth?? You have none, that is why.
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  774. Zero proof/evidence for a flat earth. Mountains of proof/evidence for the globe. Who are you going to believe? Religious nutscases or reallity?
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  775. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. #GottaLieToFlerf
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  776.  @charlieburke1529  I don't care about that OUR GOVERNMENT is corrupt. Now show me a photo of that "firmament/dome"
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  777.  @charlieburke1529  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Face it kid. You are not interested in the truth. You can't handle reality.
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  778.  Monoteist 369  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. #GottaLieToFlerf
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  779. And what part is "hidden" Antarctica?? Just go there and freeze your nuts off. It is a frozen wasteland.
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  780.  @MalkiYah_King  Sorry kid. the earth is not flat. Digging down 8 miles id just a hole toward the center.
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  781.  @MalkiYah_King  Define "beneath the earth"
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  782.  @MalkiYah_King  Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Do not try to tell a mariner the shape of the earth.
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  783. No.
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  784.  @jthewolf2169  Smoke less before posting B$.
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  785. * can personally prove it. Just as any other navigator in shipping or aviation can. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  786. Flerfs?? Yes, they can only lie. They have to.
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  787. The bible is no science book. The myth of that world wide flood is a lie.
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  788. So, The "waters above and water below" argument. So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish or aquaman and we all grow gills when we die. Got it.
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  789. ​ @Yuoskalola  "Truth seekers" are never interested in the truth, kid.
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  790. And where is that "source" today?? DITHR got ripped as new one, Dubay is debunked, etc... So now it is up to you. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  791.  @k0phn1z  Why take the trouble to show you a real photo when you are going to scream CGI and FAKE any way?? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Get to work, boy. MAP and MODEL!!!
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  792. And the bible is no science book. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. I don't care what your religious cult claims.
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  793. Eric 3. 5-19.
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  794.  @mr.tonyshiphopschool266  "this is America you’re entitled to your opinion" To bad then that the shape of the earth is a *FACT*. You are not entitled to your own facts.
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  795.  @mr.tonyshiphopschool266  Ah, the bible. Sorry boy but your book of myth and lies is no EVIDENCE for anything.
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  796.  @chrisdavis1151  So NASA ( R Simmon) is making CGI pictures sinds 1958 with a program that doesn't exist before 1988 and by a guy that is not even born yet on some computer that doesn't exist ?? Is that really what your flat earth priests tell you to believe?? Have you ever thought about that???
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  797. Only idiots measure rotation in miles/hour. Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 RPM. That is once per 23h 56min and 4.1 second. One siderial day. It is the main cause of night and day.
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  798. I love the amount of EVIDENCE you provide for a flat earth. eh........ Oops, you did not do that. Why is that?
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  799.  @tasharyder2386  Easter: stollen holiday by the church. Stolen from germanic tribes. It is a fertility feast. Just look at the eggs and the bunny. Christmas: stolen from germanic tribes. It is a feast for the beginning of the lenghtening of the days. Sit around a big campfire and excange gifts. Jesus was not born on dec 25 He was not nailed to a cross 2 days before easter sunday. That is why the date is not fixed. Human body.. Terrible design. Playground next to the waste disposal, A nerve looped around the aorta. Eating and breating through the same hole with the risk of suffocation etc. Try again.
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  800. What god is that today??
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  801. Provide EVIDENCE
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  802. You are not interested in the truth. We see that all the time with liars with truth in their name.
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  803.  @warmachineuk  You have no model.
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  804. I learned at school that people made up explanations for things the did not understand. That is the reason there are religions.
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  805. They are all cowards. Flat earth millionair prove that he has the money but refuses to go there.
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  806.  @ramzanups2167  And still you keep presenting the same old strawman argument. It shows you know nothing about orbital mechanics.
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  807.  @ramzanups2167  A rocket has to get in to ORBIT. ORBIT AROUND the globe. Rockets can't go straight up to reach an orbit. They can't stop and make a right turn. They curve up while getting higher to reach an orbit. Rockets that go straigt up fall straigt down when the fuel is gone.
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  808. No they don't.
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  809. Forget about boats. That are toys we have on board SHIPS!!!! Do you see those 2 small orange things on the side here?? https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j1Hvj9IiVv4/UQEFv--fjeI/AAAAAAAAQu8/HTr7BV2U8BY/s1600/NISO+%25281%2529.JPG.jpg That are boats And they are on board a SHIP As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSMRhTPMSfk
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  810.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  Try again when you have EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  811.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  Cherry picking. You missed the context.
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  812. Shoes are fake. Your bottom of your foot is round, it fits perfectly on a globe.
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  813. Confirmation bias.
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  814.  @nessaj4522  The problem you have is that you think you can feel the earth move when your inner ear is not sensitive enough for that. We can measure it. Just look how Bob Knodel did it with his 20.000 dollar laser gyro. WOW 15 degree per hour drift. That is one rotation per 23 h 56 min and 4 seconds and 4 minutes to line up your meridian with the sun. Siderial day and solar day. Are you familiar with night and day?? The rotation of the earth at 0.00069444 rpm is the main cause for that.
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  815. More reasons to stay away from every religion.
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  816.  @thethinkingman-  You have no flat earth map. I want a map of the whole world without any distortions and one scale. Where is that map, kid?
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  817. You forgot to think again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  818. Have you even wondere WHY we can see a crisp horizon at 3 miles out when you stand on the waterline?? The horizon is globe *EVIDENCE*. If the earth was flat there would not be a horizon at 3 miles out but everything would just fade in to the distance. Now try again. Bring *EVIDENCE, Measurements and Data.
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  819. Try again.
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  820. They don't even agree on that. Space is "fake" and the stars and planets are just projections on the inside of the "dome" That dome that NOBODY has any evidence for. NASA is projecting his hologram for over 6000 years. SMH.
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  821.  @raqialife9286  Maybe you would like to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth but there is none, Sorry. Earth is not flat.
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  822.  @raqialife9286  Nobody normal is claiming there is a bulge, Only flerfs do that. Just think about it.
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  823.  @raqialife9286  There is no "bulge" . The observer is always on the apex of the globe.
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  824.  @raqialife9286  In the flat earth model, that not exists, flerfs claim that the sun is 3000 miles high. It can never set. To bad that sunsets happen all the time.
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  825.  @raqialife9286  When are you going to test it yourself??
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  826.  @raqialife9286  Water and earth starts to curve right at your feet. Prove me wrong. Present measurements. and data.8" per mile ^2 is nice estimate. when you are lazy,
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  827.  @raqialife9286  I do not care how much camera's you want to ruin. I just warn you about what is going to happen.. Going blind is just your own choice. killing your camera's sensors is just costing you money. But please go watch the sun without a filter, like decent shades. I don't care when you burn out your retina. Be stupid. I don't care. Just as you need to walk of a tall building to disprove gravity. I don't care, I am on the pavement with your Darwin Award. Now do it. NOW!!
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  828.  @raqialife9286  No, you have not have many. All you got is personal incredulity.
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  829. ​ @raqialife9286  Water curves al over the globe. Just go and measure it.
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  830.  @raqialife9286  I assume you will point your camera to the sun, zoom in and make a video. So you are going to kill your camera. Silly flerf move.
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  831.  @raqialife9286  There is no need to look at BS. Just as there is no need to look at anything a flerf priest produces. Just go ahead and go blind and burn you camera sensor out. Types like you will never learn.
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  832.  @raqialife9286  Sure you want to look at the sun and burn out your eyes or the sensor on your camera?? I do not care when you go blind or ruine you camera. Kind of a tall price to pay to prove you are wrong. Going blind and wasting a camera. But, what ever you want. Do it and stare at the sun for 15 minutes. Burn out your camera. I do not care. It is your choice to do it. Never say I did not warn you.
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  833.  @raqialife9286  just watch a horizon or a sunset. Use a decent solar filter.
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  834.  @raqialife9286  Measured all the time. Seen all the time. 8"per mile^2 is a parabola and not the correct formula to use for sight.
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  835.  @raqialife9286  Why don't you explain tow tanks that test ship designs?? They all curve. You forget you are just a small human and earth is big.
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  836.  @KangenAlec  < TROLL.
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  837.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  838. Flerfs just refuse he presented EVIDENCE for the globe. They are all dumb.
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  839. Why are relitards like you lying so much all the time? Is that because you are raised to lie or does that come natural? Did you just forget the 9th commandment?? Lying for jesus is still lying. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  840. As long as YOU are denying all the EVIDENCE there is no need to talk to you anymore.
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  841.  @Globeisahoax  How about some EVIDENCE for your delusions? TROLL .
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  842.  @tupacolypse1  Same stars, Those would be the stars around the polestar. Those are circumpolar and visible all year but change position. They are 180 degrees rotated every 6 month. Now the stars in the Zodiak are not visible all year. You can never see Orion in june/july. So, no you can not see all the same stars during the whole year. That is because we orbit the sun and look in a different direction all the time. Every night the rise of the stars is a bit changed, Almost 1 degree per day. So they rise a little earlier every day and after half a year they set at the time they rose 6 months before that. Look up Stelarium and download it and run it. It shows you exactly what you should see. You can even change observer position and date and time to make predictions.
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  843.  @tupacolypse1  Rowbotham has been disproven many times. He was a conman. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  844.  @chomar97  Try again. Bring EVIDENCE You are a joke.
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  845.  @chomar97  Water on a ball. Gravity. It the mass is big enough. Fail 4.
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  846.  @chomar97  " the world is filled with miseducated scholar(ships) " how do we get across oceans?? fail 3.
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  847.  @chomar97  "no they don't all GPS signals are sent from earth not from hollywood imaginary out of space." Where are the towers in all oceans? Fail 2.
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  848.  @chomar97  "you still believe satellites and outter space exist omg you have watched way to many movies and fake documents." Fail. No evidence presented.
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  849.  @chomar97  6371/4000 = 3.1855. So that would be a globe with a diameter of over 3 Kilometer. Be smart boy. Don't discuss the shape of the earth with a sailor that knows how to navigate.
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  850.  @chomar97  Nobody can navigate on a flat earth map for the simple reason that there is no flat earth map than can be used to navigate on. Now calculate for me how big my globe is when I need this chart. https://www.linz.govt.nz/sea/charts/encs/nz552171 The berthing chart for Marsden Point refinery. Scale 1:4000. The map is about 70 cm by 100 cm on paper. P.s. ignoring gravity will not help you.
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  851.  @chomar97  Evere map is a projection. That you are not willing to accept that is your problem. You don't have any idea why a ship of 300 meter needs a map that can show how big that is in a port or restricted waters. You chose to stay dumb.
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  852.  @chomar97  The Earth has a radius of 6.371 KM. On navigational map we use a scale of 1:18.000 or better. If I go with 1:18000 I would have a globe of 707 meter diameter. If I need more detail the globe will get only bigger up to 2Km diameter. Where do we put that globe?? Do you now understand how stupid your question is??
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  853.  @chomar97  Like I already said. A globe, that can show us the level of detail we need in navigation of a port would be bigger than a supertanker.
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  854.  @chomar97  All maps are projections of a part or the whole globe. There is no flat earth map that conforms to reallity and can be used to navigate on.
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  855.  @chomar97  because a screen/paper is flat and a globe that is capable of displaying the details we need would be bigger than a supertanker. Btw... Where is your map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on?? Be smart and don't claim the gleason map. I will burn you to a crisp with my next question that every. navigator can do in a few minutes.
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  856. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. We measure curve everytime we take a sextant reading. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  857.  @Globeisahoax  I advise you to read the treaty and tell us where is days hat nobody can go to Antarctica. You are just a TROLL Alec.
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  858. I have done lots of research and observations during my time at sea. Earth is a rotating globe.
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  859. Try using your brain.
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  860.  @titusmokoena3177  FFS, Just use your phone and call some people around the earth to ask then if they see the sun.
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  861. Homies don't know what a rainbow is.
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  862. Be more like Rob Skiba, dude. Go ask him how that worked out.
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  863.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL
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  864.  @aoyamiuriko5059  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  865. To bad then we measured the ROTATION of the earth at 0.00069444 RPM. Only fools measure rotation in miles per hour. Tell us, what does a rev meter in your car show?? Miles per hour or revolutions per minute??? Can you show me the formula for buoyancy???
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  866. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  867. Don't presuppose they "think"
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  868. Then they would be dishonest. The correct answer is I DO NOT KNOW Scientist already knew the earth was a globe.
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  869.  @whitekaren7742  Yes it is. Fix it.
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  870.  @whitekaren7742  Your keyboard is broke. It is stuck on capitals. Fix it.
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  871.  @whitekaren7742  Go play outside, kid.
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  872. Navigation proves the globe. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  873.  @a.l.3956  All navigators care about the shape and size of the globe, kid. It is a part of their JOB!!
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  874.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  875.  @questccg  ou can have a lot of "opinion" on a lot of things. NOBODY gets to make up their own FACTS .
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  876.  @questccg  Religion has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. I do not care about your "faith" The earth is a globe. Proven, tested every day. I don't care that your "friends" lie to you every day.
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  877.  @questccg  Religious Tosh.
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  878. Flat earth is a GLOBAL problem.
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  879.  Monoteist 369  Go play outside, kid.
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  880. Best prove of Dunning-kruger ever!!!
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  881. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  882.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  883. And you are just lying. Show us where the sun rises and sets on dec. 21 and on june 21.
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  884.  @Globeisahoax  You are right. Flat earth is not a theory. It even fails to be a hypothesis. Scientific theories are backed by laws, experiments and observations. Flat earth has non of those.
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  885.  @DirectCombatives  Youtube and a lot of other platforms. He even writes song of praise about Hitler. Lyrics are online. It is one of the reasons Dubay lost his YT account a few times.
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  886. LOL a jew nazi worshipper. Do you also deny the holocaust?
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  887.  @therealzilch  But they do not get to be inside the rocket. We duck-tape them to the engine bell of the second stage of a space-x rocket , nice in view of the camera's.
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  888. Only in the USA they still tell lies about Columbus.
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  889. What a load of b$. level doesn't mean flat. Nobody can feel a constant speed. Denial of gravity is just dumb. You are not interested in the truth, just as a lot of relitards.
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  890.  @matthewpohlman  So next to a deluded fool you are also a coward. Got it.
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  891. ​ @matthewpohlman  So, a religious zealot?? Is that the best you can come up with? That looks like you are just talking about your self. WOW And you are the one that is deluded and thinks he know stuf. When are you starting to present EVIDENCE for all your claims?? Or, you do not have any, you don't have time to do that, you run away. Face it , kid. You just have nothing other that your own personal incredulity and ignorance.
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  892.  @matthewpohlman  Ooohhh giving up so soon??? Can't handle reality??? I do not believe the earth is a globe, I*KNOW* it is a globe and I have the EVIDENCE . All you got is beliefs and BS from conmen. It's kind of pathetic.
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  893.  @matthewpohlman  Ohhhh. baby got bored because he can't handle the truth he is to dumb to understand he is to dumb. How about some EVIDENCE for your delusions, kid. You keep failing to present any.
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  894.  @matthewpohlman  So you think you have EVIDENCE for a flat earth? Let us see it all, kid. Lets beging with a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and can be used for navigation. Sure you want to try to tell a mariner about the shape of the earth? I have all those observations that are all impossible on a flat earth. I have the measurements and the data. You have nothing. So what can you present??
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  895.  @matthewpohlman  Yep, we all already know you are asleep.
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  896.  @matthewpohlman  "I did not read your hysterical comments." Thank for proving that you are not interested in the truth. I don't care what you believe or your opinion. I just care about the EVIDENCE and you as a flerf have none. Just let that sink in.
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  897.  @matthewpohlman  And that is a claim you have to prove. Screaming CGI and FAKE is not going to do it. Btw: ...... Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe. That is called geography. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called geometry. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  898. You mean like the globe earth?? I already have seen that.
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  899. Are you sure they "think"?
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  900. You have to do better boy. video is not accepted. it is all CGI. Try measurements from experiments and cold hard data. Try scientific papers.
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  901. There is no flat earth model. Just as that there is no flat earth theory. Flat earth even fails to be a hypothesis.
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  902.  @FREDEPHRAIM187  We call your brain flat because history has proven flerfs are dumb.
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  903. It even fails to be a hypothesis.
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  904. Prove it!!
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  905. What did they lie about?? Be speciffic.
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  906. Dropped on their had as a baby??
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  907.  @xevious2501  I think I warned you not to make silly claims. Keep your religion personal and don't post books on YT. For me your religion is not important and that book you just posted is pure BS. Faith is believing in things without evidence. Sure you want to push YOUR BS on to me? Be smart and walk away now. You have crossed that line I drew in front of you.
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  908.  @xevious2501  I have all my personal observations and knowledge as a mariner. Earth can not be flat based on all I have seen and know. The problem starts when flerfs want to have flat earth taught in all schools like Sleeping Warrior wants. He is pushing his false beliefs on people. Sleepy slipped one time and said he is an I.D. believer. As a life long atheist and mariner I have a big problem with that. I do not have problems with religion UNTIL the silly claims start. I do not belief in an afterlife. That makes the time we have here precious but I have no problem with that belief. Standing on a bridge-wing in the middle of an ocean, without any light pollution, Just stargazing is a breath taking experience. It makes Einsteins "god" a.k.a. Spinoza/nature eh... real? Maybe that is not the right word but I understand what it is about. I think a lot of atheíst cosmologists have this. So, no god from a book but just the awe and wonder of it all. I have big problems when they claim flat earth as absolute truths when we can show them wrong. A lot of flerfs try to hide behind their religion/bible while making those silly claims. They think that their religion is untouchable and nobody will call them out on their BS. I can and will respect your beliefs but up to that point. I will never attack somebody on only their religion. As an atheist I still respect people's thoughts about this. I hope you understand my position in this.
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  909. Earth is still a globe. No matter how much your flat earth priests lie to you.
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  910. Relative to you?? YES.
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  911.  @Globeishoax  WOW, great answer. To bad you failed to present EVIDENCE for your silly claims.
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  912.  @Globeishoax  < is just a TROLL
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  913. Fun fact: most flerfs are religious rightwing nuts.
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  914. They don't want to see the truth. They are real truth seekers, not interested in the truth. smh
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  915.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  916. 13k. there is an extension for that.
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  917.  @marleonetti7  A simple google search tells you earth is ROTATING at 0.00069444 rpm. Only fools use mph for rotations.
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  918. o play outside, kid.
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  919.  @Globeisahoax  Prove it!!! You can't.
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  920. More religious BS??? No thanks. We discovered reality 600 years ago. The time of your religion is gone. Welkome to the Internet where religions come to die.
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  921. It is the result of religious nuts that make these silly claims And dumb people that failed basic physics.. The US schooling system.
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  922. How about YOU presenting PROOF and EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Nobody with a working brain has ever seen one of those. Even Eric Dubay's latest brainfart is being debunked as I type this.
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  923. Your brain is flat.
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  924. Right. You don't go back to your school to debate the math teacher if 1 + 1 is 2. That is a pointless debate. Neil is right You don't debate facts..
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  925. So?? It was known about 2300 years ago. Your point??
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  926.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  927. Brainwashed by religions?? Yea we all know how that works out.
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  928.  @trees6543  So a new strawman argument. The big bang has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. FOCUS , BOY. Second, You are just an ape. You share the same ancestors as modern apes.
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  929.  @trees6543  You mean like that world wide flood that never happened??
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  930. You don't "KNOW" the earth is flat. That is what has been told to you by silly flerf video's. You have never seen the dome, the icewall, etc We don't care about ancient fools. We live in 2020 now and we have researched things. It's a globe. 2300 year ago measured and proven.
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  931. Flat earther = No brain.
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  932. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Why can't you do that?
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  933. I don't care about your "beliefs" I only care about what you can prove and there is what you are failing.
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  934. Why do you like to spread your B$ all over YT, kid?
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  935.  @glitchyjoe64  Science is not a religion. There is no pope, no authority, no holy books, no anything that religions all have. That you failed basic physics and math is not my problem.
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  936. You don't really want to know.. It's religion.
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  937. We know all distances on the globe. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  938.  @lemond2007  When are you going to test the claims of a flat earth? You will soon find it is all lies.
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  939. So, it is normal to deny 2500 years of testing and experiments??
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  940. What is not true?
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  941. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  942. The earth is not flat. They have no EVIDENCE for a flat earth. The earth was proven a globe 2300 years ago.
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  943.  @Peterpan2355  Looks like you are confused about the moon's orbit. You don't know the difference between the time for an orbit of the moon and the time between full moon to full moon. You Should research that.... Oops..... I forgot. Flerfs never do research!!!! That is why they spout so much BS. They never check their claims.
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  944.  @Peterpan2355  No matter what, the earth is not made of about 70% water. So you have no idea what you are talking about.
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  945.  @Peterpan2355  Why would i stop sending you EVIDENCE for a globe?? The only way to stop that is you deleting your original post. Now, what's it going to be???
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  946.  @Peterpan2355  You are The one that is wrong everytime. You are the one that claims that the earth is made of over 70% water. Words have meanings. EARTH MADE Just check what you are claiming.
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  947.  @Peterpan2355  So you say that the earth is over 70 % water... Still wrong. Do your research boy. Get a better translating program or learn english.
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  948.  @Peterpan2355  Carbonated water is not flat. The earth is not 75% water. And you don't know where down is. 3 fails in a row. Better do some research before you try again.
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  949.  @Peterpan2355  So you failed to know where down is. Got it. Now try again and bring EVIDENCE For a flat earth.
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  950. Religious BS.
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  951. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims next time.
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  952. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Your turn. Start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  953. I have them on file. Part 1 of 3 The geocentric flat earth has ... • No working model, or map. • No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude. • No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year. • No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere. • No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth. • No idea what powers the sun and the stars. • No idea of the distance to the stars. • Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works. • No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all. • No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation. • No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon. • No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth. • No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are. • No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world. • No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth. • No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used. • No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly. • No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature. • No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature. • No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics. • No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid. • No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe. • No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox. • No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon. • No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view. • No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres). • No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude. • No explanation as to why the Artic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year. • No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky • No explanation for how tides work. • No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth. • No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level. • No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth. • No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity. • No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome. • No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively. • No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s. • No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere. • No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located. • No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system. • No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system. • No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion. • No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs. • No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set. • Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way. • No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too. • No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia. • No credible reason why millions of people (mostly scientists, engineers and technicians ) over decades would lie to keep the globe earth alive, and why nations and commercial enterprises, accountable to the voters and shareholders respectively, would spend (waste) $2 trillion a year , each and every year to maintain the globe lie. • No idea how it is possible to measure the value of G, the universal gravitational constant and in so doing, verify the theory of gravity. • No scientific papers publish in the last 100 years supporting the flat earth. • No idea why there is snow on hight moutains with a local sun as it has to get warmer and snow should melt if you get closer to the sun. Now the globe earth and the heliocentric model have answers that are consistent with each other to all of the above that the flat earth can't explain, but the globe earth is wrong and the flat earth is correct , even although the flat earth model is almost useless at explaining anything? Have I understood the situation correctly? The flat earth is gaslighting to the power infinity
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  954. Done, even with better camera's. Flerfs ignore the evidence.
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  955. What about it?
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  956.  @aoyamiuriko5059  So, The "waters above and water below" argument. So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish and we all grow gills when we die. Got it.
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  957.  @sebastiaanjacobs1885  The black swan is a distorted photo . All it proves is that refraction is very real. Only a fool would use that as EVIDENCE for a flat earth. You have to do better than a distorted photo. Just answer me this. How high is the sun and moon??
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  958.  @sebastiaanjacobs1885  Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSMRhTPMSfk
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  959.  @sebastiaanjacobs1885  Earth Acceleration due to gravity (standard) _ _ _ _ = 980.665 centimeters per second per second = 32.1740 feet per second per second Mass-ratio—Sun/Earth _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 332,958 Mass-ratio—Sun/(Earth & Moon) _ _ _ _ _ _ = 328,912 Mass-ratio—Earth/Moon _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 81.30 Mean density _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 5.517 grams per cubic centimeter Velocity of escape _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 6.94 statute miles per second Curvature of surface _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 0.8 foot per nautical mile World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 6,378,137 meters = 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 6,356,752.314 meters = 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 6,371,008.770 meters = 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563 = 0.003352811 Eccentricity (e = (2f – f2)1/2) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 0.081819191 Eccentricity squared (e2) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = 0.006694380 Only fools think that a distorted photo can prove a flat earth. All your black swan proved is that REFRACTION is real. Your black swan was stot down, barbequed and eaten the day it showed it's ugly face. Oakley is lying to you. Calculator: http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSMRhTPMSfk Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  960.  @sebastiaanjacobs1885  Nathan Oakley will never leave his own echo chamber because he can't control the mute button there. Oakley is afraid to step outside his own echo chamber. Btw.. the black swan?? Nice SUPER DISTORTED PICTURE that proves the existance of refraction. Only a fool would think it is evidence for a flat earth. That swan was shot down, barbequed and eaten whole the day it showed ot's ugly face.
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  961. No it isn't.
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  962. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now. Get to work, boy.
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  963. It is a CULT . A science denying CULT .
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  964. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  965. Try again, kid.
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  966. Try again, kid.
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  967.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  968. Is that with or without pineappel??
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  969. So.. NO EVIDENCE presented for a flat earth. Got it. Sorry kid but we have got the EVIDENCE for a globe. We have gathering that for over 2300 years. What have you to show over that time??? Nothing more but,but, but, mu bible. Yes we heard that BS al long time. You are just are a reallity denier.
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  970. To bad that the bible is no science book. It is wrong on so many points that even harry potter books have better evidence.
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  971. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Prove me wrong.
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  972. And you have EVIDENCE for that claim of that laser??? Of course not. If you did you would have shown us. That is why we know you are just parroting something you heard from your flerf high priest. We want details and measurements. I bet you are talking about that railgun shot. To ad you missed the details on that shot.
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  973. Yep, and then you have Marjorie Taylor Green in congress. smh.
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  974. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  975. Try again. Present EVIDENCE for the existence of your god.
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  976. More religious BS.
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  977. Try again, kid. Present EVIDENCE next time.
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  978. And we all know the bible is 100% true, right??? Try again kid.
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  979. There is no EVIDENCE of a flat earth. If there was then somebody would have presented that over he past 7 years. You are just a science denier.
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  980.  @thatrandomguyontheinternet2477  And what map dictates that route to get in to that position? Ocean is just ocean so you can take every route you want to get from a to b. Remember they were not at war at that time so the term enemy water has nop meaning. The answer is still with bombs from planes launched from carriers.
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  981. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  982. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  983. It's a GLOBAL problem.
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  984. B$.
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  985. Go play outside, kid.
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  986. Yep it is about money. Conmen and money.
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  987. Pathetic. Try again.
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  988. When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in evolution because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled. In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be. Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law. This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.
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  989. So simmon edited the Earthrise photo from 1968 with software that did not exist before 1988 when he was not even born on computers that did not exist. WOW, great argument dumdum. You are the perfect example of how flerfs reason . FE and logic don't go together. You have shown us.
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  990. "spinning"??? No, earth is rotating at 0.00069444 RPM. Kind of slow. Orbiting: the constellations change position all the time over a year. One orbit takes one siderial year.
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  991. We know all distances on the globe. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. If the earth is flat then why are lighthouse so tall?? If the earth is flat there is no need to be taller that 10 meter to see a lighthouse at any distance up to 100 mile out to sea There are the lists of all lighthouses on the earth. Find me one that is 10 meter and a range of over 30 NM out to sea. Look at the shadow of the earth during a lunar eclips. No matter what angle it is always round. Now tell me what object always casts a round shadow.
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  992. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  993. Just because, lol.
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  994. Try again. Make sense next time.
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  995. Be more like Rob Skiba.
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  996. Just admit you are just an atheist. You deny Odin.
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  997. Amazing, I thought I had seen it all but this is the most stupid thing I have read.
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  998. The pope already apologised for Galileo
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  999. Basic flight : Thrust/drag and Lift/gravity. Just tell us that you know nothing about aerodynamics without saying you don't know anything about aerodynamics.
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  1000. You presumed they ever went there. STOP THAT ;)
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  1001. @UCyd2jc6N1fS6iAHxx4IMiRA The force is selective?? Does the butterfly do WORK as it wants to fly?? Do you do WORK as you get up out of your chair??? Looks like you failed basic physics.
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  1002.  @Allstarsga  So you don't have to prove your claims?? "It is flat. Its certainly not a spinning ball with things stuck to it by a mysterious force" And I who made no claims has to prove my non-existing claims??? OYG.. You are funny. Now try again. Bring EVIDENCE for YOUR claims.
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  1003.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1004. Banjo is just to dumb to understand anything. He has proven that time after time.
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  1005. Evolution is working on that. Most flerfs are also anti-vaxxers.
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  1006. Space is real and you are an ape just like all of us.
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  1007. On many flights, they would give away leveling devices to all passengers for free, so that everyone would be able to observe the dip of the horizon and proves Earth is a sphere. And as a nice side effect, to quench our thirsts, too! Such devices are called ‘bottled water’. Using these simple ‘instruments’ on a flight, we can demonstrate that Earth is a sphere. By drinking half of the water in a bottle of water, we can use the bottle as a simple leveling device. Firmly close the bottle, hold the bottle horizontally, and aim for the horizon line, all while keeping our eyes level with the surface of water inside the bottle. If weather condition allows it, it is not hard to observe that the horizon is below the eye level. The phenomenon is called the dip of the horizon, and can only occur with such magnitude if Earth is a sphere. Flat-Earthers repeatedly assert that “horizon always rises to eye level, no matter how high we are from the surface.” Using these simple ‘instruments,’ it is trivial to prove them wrong.
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  1008.  @adriel115_  I read it and there is no mention of alexander or a date. You claimed that there is. You are just lying. We are used to that.
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  1009.  @adriel115_  Daniel 8 : MISSING: a name and a date. So, fail. I asked what verse has alexanders name and a date that he does that. Silly visions mean nothing. BTW.. Where is the EVIDENCE for a flat earth??? Yep: also STILL MISSING
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  1010.  @adriel115_  Tell me WHAT verse has alexanders name in it and tells the date ?
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  1011.  @adriel115_  So alexander believed some prophecy that did not mention his name and a date. So BS.
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  1012.  @adriel115_  Eh, no there isn't
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  1013.  @adriel115_  Earth is a globe. We have the EVIDENCE. Claiming some book claims it is not is BS. The evidence/proof is all there. Claiming some god is just as silly. There is no EVIDNCE for that too. Try again when you can provide *EVIDENCE*. for a god. I have a beer standby and would like a one on one with your "god" I keep asking relitards to send their god over He still fails to show up. I wonder why.
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  1014. Save it for bible camp, boy. The topic is dumb flerfs and flat earth.
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  1015. Yep ans ghost are real, So is satan and all the bible BS. ffs.
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  1016.  @jessechisholm4842  The greeks had working brains. Flerfs do not have those "tools" ;)
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  1017. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1018. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1019. What about it? Be specific.
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  1020. One is a lie and the other is the truth. Now you have to figure out which one.
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  1021. All the emergency landings check out. The problem is that flerfs know nothing about navigation or what a great circle route is.
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  1022.  @squadabingo7290  There is no video that prove the sun and moon are local. There are only video's of bad science and wrong conclusions.
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  1023.  @squadabingo7290  People got smarter. This question was solved 2300 years ago. Old maps were made by people that did not know the America's even existed.
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  1024.  @squadabingo7290  300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  1025.  @sandragriffiths2441  , not that you’ve seen. Every bible says the earth is flat. That is your claim. You run to the bible. What government are you talking about??? All governments of all countries over all ages and on the whole earth?? Are you unable to confirm distances on earth?? Why is that??? I am told nothing. There are no NASA people on board that tell me what I see. I am just a mariner that has done more tests that you will ever do. I have done more observations than you will ever do until you travel all over the earth. You are just denying reality. Distances on the globe are all known. Directions from A to B are all known. Airlines and shipping depends on that. Every day airplanes and ships arrive at their destination after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED time By using the CALCULATED direction. I don't care that you can not calculate a simple great circle route. That can be learned. There is only no cure for wilful IGNORANCE!! That you show.
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  1026.  @sandragriffiths2441  Yes, very easy. You just have to look at geography. You know, EARTH MEASURING. Can you present EVIDENCE for a flat earth???
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  1027. Footbal field : curved for drainage. Formula 1 track up and down with lots of curves. See Spa/francochamps. Road are curved, they have bend and go over mountains.
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  1028.  @Sweeney-Kubach  So you went to a religious school. Catholic you say? The catholic church has accepted the globe for over a long time. The even apologized to Galileo. There is a lot of EVIDENCE and even PROOF for the globe. There is no EVIDENCE for a flat earth or a god. Looks like your school really sucked.
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  1029.  @antjuanmcghee3762  So you don't know how and why a plane flies. Got it. smh
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  1030.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  GlobeBusters.. LOL. The guys that proved rotation and curve. Yep they are grifters.
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  1031. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  1032. So Kyrie is also delusional.
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  1033. Math doesn't lie. Proof comes from math. All distance on the earth are known. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  1034. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1035. OYG, Taboo conspiracies, One of the most gullable conmen in the flat earth B$ Sorry boy but laser test are all flawed. Laser light is not one straight beam, it always spreads Next to the simple fact that all light refracts because we have an atmoSPHERE. You have to do better kid. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1036.  @yestervue4697  Yep that is why all flerf fail, They can not back up any claim they make. Or are you going to present ëvidence"for that brain fart that is the flat earth? Go ahead, you will be the first, kid. Go right ahead, We are all waiting here. We have been waiting for 2500 years now, so take your time. Video and photo is all CGI, arguments from personal incredulity don't count, leave religion out of it. Just present Measurements and Data we all can check. GO!!!! You will fail.
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  1037.  @yestervue4697  Ah. you are one of those "but itt is just a theory" trolls. Sorry kid but your argument has no power because YOU don't even know what a scientific theory is. Go troll somewhere else.
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  1038.  @yestervue4697  And here you are again. Making a fool of yourself with arguments from personal incredulity and lack of basic physics. Lets say that you are a troll or a poe. Lets leave it at that.
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  1039. Flat earth is not a theory. It doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis
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  1040.  @Laura-od5sr  What god?? Odin?
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  1041. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Stil think you are smart?
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  1042. Go play outside, kid.
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  1043. TROLL ALERT!!
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  1044.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1045. They have a bible that says that the earth is a KLOOT ( old dutch for ball) The KJV is filled with translation errors.
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  1046.  @NotThisGuy12  You mean YOUR government lies to you all the time. He, You got what you voted for. So stop whining.
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  1047.  @ToyotaNutjob  And now you are just lying. #GottoLieToFlerf
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  1048. It is totaly impossible. We have the measurements etc.... There are no good arguments for a flat earth. they are unable to present EVIDENCE for anything. You can have all the arguments you like but without EVIDENCE is is just an empty claim. Always a domeshape?? Just look up himawari 8 A weather satellite above Australia, What dome ??? What is the bottom of a ball??
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  1049. Then you are a fool. I have a new FACT for you. A dollar is just 1 euro cent. Sent me 100 euro's worth. That is my own facts.
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  1050. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1051.  @aarondavis7826  We asked. Every plane get lighter when it flies. It burns fuel!!!!! So plane of constant mass do not exist!!!!
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  1052.  @aarondavis7826  From all the navigators I personally know, some years crossing oceans, Learning celestial navigation, etc.... How is you knowledge of navigation? Can you make a voyage planning for me?? Be smart, kid. Run away and stop B$ing a mariner.
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  1053. You don't even know what a scientific theory is. You might want to look that up before you embarrass yourself more. Explain to us all why all navigation is based on the globe and NON-educlidian (ball) math
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  1054. Earth is a rotating globe. That is a FACT
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  1055. Hm, American school??? We here in Europe learned he set out to find an alternative route to the east indies to break the monopoly of the spice trade.
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  1056.  @WilliamBTCWallace  So bending water.... Now let's see how do I show you bending water. So... water does not bend??? Why don't you make a video of you pissing against a wall 10 meter away from you. If water doesn't bend you have a nice straight stream. If it bends you need a prostate exam, Or water bends and gravity is real. I'll wait for that video now. Your bathroom must be a mess. You never pay attention where you piss!!!.
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  1057.  @WilliamBTCWallace  Are you unable to find the debunk video's about Eric Dumbass?? There are even pages on the internet about it all. Looks like you can't operate google Just type "debunk eric dubay" and see what you get. There is more. but there you have your start.
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  1058. ​ @WilliamBTCWallace  As long as YOU are unable to present EVIDENCE for your claims, you have nothing. The earth is a rotating globe. You will ignore the EVIDENCE so I'm not even going to present it because that is pointless. The EVIDENCE is all over the internet to be found. Where is your EVIDENCE for a flat earth?? Not ONE flat earther has ever presented a valid point. You are no exception. The LOL after flerf comments shows their own insecurity. Their try to laugh but it is just a nervous laugh because they KNOW they have nothing.
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  1059.  @WilliamBTCWallace  LOL, Eric Dumbass?? Sure you want a neo-nazi to hold your hand and run to him for evidence? His "200 proofs" have been debunked a few times. I have done some research. I had a lot of time when I travelled the world and crossed oceans on ships. His book is a rip-off from some known conman. It is rubish. The rest of everything you type is just BS and personal incredulity. Looks like you failed to do your basic research and failed at school in basic physics. You have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. YOUR claims so YOU have a burden of proof.
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  1060.  @WilliamBTCWallace  No there is no EVIDENCE for a flat earth. If there was YOU would have presented it by now. You did not. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NONE.
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  1061.  @WilliamBTCWallace  Evidence is from observation. Proof in only in MATH.
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  1062. I don't believe in the globe. i KNOW it is a globe. We have the EVIDENCE for that. Flerfs have nothing.
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  1063. What ice walls??
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  1064.  @philaypeephilippotter6532  lol. Mark sargant has his name always on his shirt so he can ask other people what his name is. ;)
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  1065.  @reeyonarya1522  No, there is no evidence for a flat earth on the web. There is a lot of BS to be found on the internet. You have to do a lot better and really have to present EVIDENCE for a geocentric stationary flat earth. How about writing a scientific paper with all your observations, etc. You'll win a Nobel prize when you are right. That is a lot of money.
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  1066.  @reeyonarya1522  You can not deny my personal observations and tests. You can not explain any of my personal observations and tests. You can not even present EVIDENCE for your claims. So, where does that leave you??
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  1067.  @reeyonarya1522  So you just proved people were stupid in the past. Got it. Anything else??? EVIDENCE for a stationary flat geocentric earth??? I don't think so.
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  1068. What a load of BS.
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  1069.  @adrianashahrokh4108  Even that map is not a flat earth map. Try again.
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  1070.  @alanbruno6155  Still waiting for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1071. Hm.. Columbus was trying to find a new route to India. That BS about him setting about to prove anything is just BS.
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  1072. Pathetic.
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  1073. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  1074. The globe was proven 2300 years ago, kid. Now.. Just be more like Rob Skiba.
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  1075.  @andrewreynold1468  Have you ever bothered to READ those papers? Do you understand what they are about? Do you understand the math and physics.?? You have to do better, boy.
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  1076. And for the sheep that thinks the earth is flat. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Your claims, YOUR burden of proof.
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  1077. HM, 120 mile...... so 1.7 degree of curve... WOW, that is a lot!!! NOT!!!!! Earth is a lot bigger than you "think" IQ is not a measurement of how smart you are.
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  1078.  @StephenJelinek  I have seen objects beyond the curve. WOW.. so you have seen a curve. You just said you could not find it And you have seen something beyond a curve? Would that be the upper part of a building or a ship?? Where was the lower part of that building or ship??? Why don't you admit you are a religious nut that can not handle the truth. Your comments are clear enough about that. Some gods design, all satanic lies... When are you nutcases going to prove your god exists???
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  1079.  @emanuelkallety613  Relitards lie all the time. Why is that? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1080.  @lov4570  Ancient civilisations din not KNOW the earth was flat, they believed it maybe. Today we know the earth is a globe. Navigation has proven the globe for over 300 years.
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  1081. Why don't you look up what N.A.S.A. means in hebrew?? It is not a word, boy. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You are just a coward that thinks hiding behind his religion is a smart move,John.
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  1082.  @Globeisahoax  When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations?
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  1083. Little boy. Present EVIDENCE for that.
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  1084.  @marleonetti7  And they are all man made and B$.
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  1085. You mean your invisible friend?? EVIDENCE for his existence??
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  1086.  @thebosscb  Because a part of them are religious nutcases that think it is in the bible that the earth is flat.
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  1087.  @galixypawerpack  To bad then that EVOLUTION is still happening. Could it be that you are just a relitard that van not handle the truth about how it all works?? I'm still waiting for a relitard that has EVIDENCE for the existence of HIS god.
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  1088.  @galixypawerpack  And I do not care about your "beliefs" I care about what you can present EVIDENCE for Now, prove that evolution did not happen.
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  1089. Did you forget all the weather satellites up there that take photo's every 10 minutes? Oh, right. all photo's and video are CGI and FAKE because you say so.
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  1090. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1091. Could it be that enoch was wrong?? Can you prove enoch was right?? Could it be tat enoch was just dumb?
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  1092. And radar shows that. Radar also has a horizon. Horizons only exist on globes.
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  1093. Go play outside, kid.
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  1094.  @The504lego  Try again. TROLL There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1095.  @The504lego  sure kid. They had flushing toilets in al rooms and Internet etc... Ancient computers??? Are you talking about slide rules now?? Do you even know how those work???
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  1096.  @The504lego  So you just proven ancient civilisations were dumb. We KNOW the earth is a globe for over 2300 years.
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  1097. Nope, You can test it yourself.
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  1098. Lighthouses, Perfect globe proof. Flight routes: perfect globe proof, you just need knowledge of navigation. Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 rpm, Kind of slow. Try again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1099. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1100.  @luizsaha  Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  1101. No. We MEASURED it all. Long before NASA ever existed we have proven the globe. Now... There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. We already know that relitards don't know anything about reality, kid.
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  1102.  @Zripas  Probably, nobody is that crazy.
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  1103. Water doesn't seek anything. It has no brain. It just flows from high altitude to lower altitude. I measure curvature of the oceans every time I do sextant observations. I observe curvature every time I observe a lighthouse from some distance. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1104. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye. I don't care about your "beliefs" or "opinions". Earth is an oblate spheroid. Proven, tested EVERY DAY
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  1105. Ok. we will ask him, WHEN HE SHOWS UP!!! Up till ow he is just missing. I wonder why...........
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  1106.  @roberturhausen1662  Conmen do not deserve respect.
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  1107. He was talking to a conman. Do you still think conmen deserve respect?? BTW, you are on the wrong video with your comment.
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  1108. Ever worked on a ship? Crossed oceans??? Did any navigation??? I don't think you ever left your basement. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth. Debunk it, boy.
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  1109. Lizard people, Mole men???
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  1110.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1111. @ASTROVORTEX They "studied" 5 years but, did they understand any of it? Who is Santa??? We here have a real bishop for the children to give presents. St Nicolaus, not that bad american rip off.
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  1112. Yes, flat earthers are plebs.
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  1113. Have you ever observed a lighthouse from some distance?? Just tell me where the base is.
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  1114.  @philaypeephilippotter6532  He is probably buried in England so cos( latitude) x length of lat. of the grave will be less than 1040 m/h
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  1115. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1116.  @jontomich93  Yep. ignoring al kind of simple things and posting the same BS every tie makes it true. smh.
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  1117.  @jontomich93  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GsewEovvI
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  1118. Flerfs are the same people as anti-vaxxers. Covid helped. Just ask Rob Skiba and that other fool, phar.. something. You will need a seance for that.
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  1119.  @moyablake5883  Lets start with the earth's shape. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. After that we can talk about your other B$.
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  1120. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1121. Pathetic.
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  1122.  @tylerbridges1330  Matt Powell has an inflatable banana in his backyard that he calls Dr. Peel
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  1123.  @tylerbridges1330  BTW, as a mariner I have sailed with many navigators and can do the calculations myself if need be. There are no flat earth navigators, not in commercial shipping, not in navy's and not in the airline industry. If you can't do the ball math then you cant calculate directions and distances. On ships that is bad because you need a tug to help you when you run out of fuel, On a plane you are in big trouble when you run out of fuel because you calculated the distance to your destination wrong. * IT MEANS YOU CRASH AND DIE* The ART of navigation is all based on NON-Euclidian ( ball) math. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Combined wit the observations over 2500 years we KNOW the earth is a globe. Now disprove math. Go ahead. 1 + 1 = still 2. That will never change.
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  1124.  @tylerbridges1330  You talked to pilots?? WOW. And why should I believe you? They don't believe in flight patterns?? What have flight patterns to do with the shape of the earth and long distant navigation?
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  1125.  @tylerbridges1330  Why would I google it?? If you can't navigate you get lost, crash and die. It is that simple.
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  1126.  @tylerbridges1330  Sure about that?? If a pilot can not navigate you are doomed to crash. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  1127.  @tylerbridges1330  Flerf: Flat earther.
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  1128. Pilots are not flerfs. They learn navigation and navigation proves the globe.
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  1129. What has a book written by some stupid person that has no knowledge about anything to do with the shape of the earth?
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  1130. All flerfs are still online. They did not cancel any flerf.
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  1131. Watch a ship disappear over the horizon. Show me the math you use, 8"per mile^2 is wrong. Present EVIDENCE of your god and satan. The bible is wrong, Now present EVIDENCE of that world wide flood. What firmament? The sky?? The "waters above and water below" argument. So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish and we all grow gills when we die. Got it.
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  1132. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1133. A very well researched subject. Now... There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1134. Everybody can observe the EVIDENCE for the globe.
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  1135. Astrology = pseudo science.
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  1136. Try again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1137.  @anthonytorres9919  ALL the information?? Have you ever heard about amateur astronomers?? Have you ever climbed a mountain and tested the airpressure there? Could it be that you are just to dumb to think about things you were told and to lazy to go out and test things for your self?? Right, dumb and lazy. We see that a lot in flerfs.
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  1138. You could use your brain and do some tests to prove for yourself that flat earth is pure BS from conmen.
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  1139. I don't care about "beliefs". Just show me EVIDENCE .
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  1140. So.. there is no horizon. What is that hing I am seeing when I look at the HORIZON????
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  1141. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1142. Columbus knew the earth was round. He was not sure about the size.
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  1143. Not one theíst even presented any EVIDENCE for a god. All you have is sily arguments and claim that that is evidence. Sorry, boy but a bit of mental mastrubation is no evidence for anything. Now, want to present EVIDENCE for your god?? Sent him over to my house. I want a word with him. After that he can report to the international courts in The Hague for his crimes against humanity.
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  1144. You are happy to be wrong all he time?? FFS. Get a brain that works.
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  1145. What god? Odin?
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  1146. BS.
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  1147. But I trust Odin. He promised to kill all the ice giants. Have you seen any ice giants lately?? I have EVIDENCE for the existence of those ice giants. They shoved huge amounts and rocks in to my country. There are burial sites build from those stones that came from scandinavia!!!!! /s
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  1148. I travelled all over the earth. On planes to get to ships that took me over oceans. All observations I have are impossible on a flat earth.
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  1149. Earth is an oblate spheroid. There is no EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1150. The day I believe the earth id flat is the day religious nuts present their god to me. Oops, they keep failing to do that. You have to do better boy.
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  1151. So you have not seen astronauts debunking flat earth??? You missed some nice video's.
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  1152.  @onlytruth6337  Nope, You are to lazy to look it up how it works. It would kill your delusions. You are scared.
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  1153.  @onlytruth6337  Just admit you don't know how a mechanical gyro compass works and are to lazy to look up how and why it works. You also know nothing about aerodynamics. So,, you have nothing as EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1154.  @onlytruth6337  So you have no evidence for a flat earth. Btw, You don't need a rocket to know the earth is a globe. Now tell me how a mechanical gyro compass works. Because that proves the earth rotates at 0.00069444 rpm. You know nothing about science, kid.
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  1155. OYG, the "truth seeker" that is not interested in the truth is here too!! Why are christians like you lying so much all the time? Is that because you are raised to lie or does that come natural? Did you just forget the 9th commandment?? Lying for jesus is still lying. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation?
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  1156. The earth rotates at 0.00069444 RPM. You are just scared of big numbers. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  1157. Which is easilly disproven. But they reject the evidence because...... reasons.
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  1158. Just admit you did not understand anything. Next time listen to what was said.
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  1159. There is so much B$ in the goatherders guide to the universe that it has lost it's credibility. You have to do better than that. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1160. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE next time.
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  1161. You just made that up or...... You had a real crappy teacher. Everybody learned that columbus wanted to find a shorter route to the indies. He miscalculated the size of the earth.
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  1162. So just leave them alone till. Oh it starts to affect you?? Flat earth is a gateway to much worse like anti-vaxxers and Q-anon. Just lave them alone till the pilot on that plane you are on is a flerf that can not calculate the amount of fuel he needs to get to his destination ( and he has no idea in what direction that is) Oops.. You die in a plane crash.... Is that what you want???
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  1163. WTF are you even talking about. There is not a shred of EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1164. Flerfs keep losing all the time. They are never able to present EVIDENCE for their delusions.
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  1165.  @robertfoertsch  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Try again, kid.
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  1166.  @bigcountrymountainman9740  That doesn't change the FACT that it is a creationists propaganda channel is. Just like I said, Filled with BS and other crap. Is tat not when banana man ray does his sketches?
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  1167. Living waters is a religious site promoting BS. That video about flat earth doesn't exist.
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  1168. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1169. Water reacts to all forces acting on it. Gravity is one of those.
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  1170.  @mrstocki586  Ah, a long time ago in a galaxy far away? Learn some history. That was over 600 years ago. When people were to dumb to see beyond religion. You know.. the dark ages.
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  1171.  @mrstocki586  Was that in the same time that the romans killed christians??
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  1172. No, they didn't.
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  1173. Life changes when flerfs start paying somebody to do stupid things and he dies. Mad mike crashed his rocket.
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  1174. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE next time.
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  1175. :) But, but, but oxygen is poison!!!
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  1176. We have not even established if they can think.
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  1177. Debunking flat earth is easy. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1178. You assume they are capable to think.
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  1179. what about rainbows, kid? You don't even know what a rainbow is.
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  1180.  @tommyapples8490  What NASA lies, kid?
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  1181.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1182. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1183.  @miffyxsong  but there is. There is no universal up or down. Gravity exists in space to. If the ISS would stop moving it would fall down to earth.
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  1184.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest??
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  1185. So an egg is flat??
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  1186. Brightest star in the sky: SIRIUS A You failed to do YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!
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  1187. Flerfs can not present FACTS .
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  1188. What is the height of that promenade over sea level at that moment? What is the height of that other promenade over sea level at that moment? Think about tides. Did you include refraction? What was the temp. of the sea water? Air temperature?
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  1189. "Space-time is a 4-dimensional Hausdorff differential manifold, on which a metric tensor is imposed that solves the Einstein field equations, and that metric tensor gives rise to geodesics, and objects that are not experiencing any other force will move along the geodesics described by that metric." BOOM, GRAVITY!!!!
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  1190. The bible is no science book. It is filled with myths, lies and pure BS. Earth is still a rotating globe. We have the EVIDENCE .
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  1191.  @I_amnext  Yep, a DOME shaped mountain. That is still not a dome that covers the whole flat earth. Now tell us all where that is mentioned that you can not higher than 60 degrees south No body is allowed to travel to the USA without permission. Try again and get that map and model. of the flat earth.
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  1192. Yea, all research done by flerfs is non existing. Watching video's from conmen is not research.
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  1193. Your goatherders guide to the galaxy is not a science book, Tim. It is filled with lies, B$ and myths. You have to do a lot better.
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  1194. Try again.. Religion is just one big lie.
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  1195. How about making a prediction and testing it... We tested the globe for over 2300 years. It never failed.
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  1196. Just like religion.
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  1197. I checked personally. Earth is a globe.
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  1198. Yea we all know where it comes from. It is written in a book written by goatherders that did not know a thing. Where is the bottom of the universe? How do you know? In space there is no universal up or down.
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  1199. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1200. World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Not so small. Wobble that takes 18.6 years. or the one that takes 25.600 years.
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  1201.  @joelnaldo  There is no "simple" geometry. Navigation is all NON-Euclidian (ball) math. I know the dimensions of the earth. World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles
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  1202.  @joelnaldo  Just tell me in what direction DOWN is. Yes I tried a lot of things. Not one observation during my time at sea is compatible with a flat earth. Have you ever worked on a ship as navigator?
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  1203.  @jasonflatearther  I did not make claims. That is you. Now prove those claims. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. I keep measuring one degree of curve for every 60 nautical miles. What have you ever tested or measured? Show us.
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  1204. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1205.  @StephenJelinek  LOL, have you noticed that when a butterfly is flying it flaps it wings??? Have you also noticed that when a butterfly doesn't flap it wings it falls down?? Isn't that funny???? Have you also noticed that the rivers have no wings to flap??? How about that???
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  1206. To bad we MEASURE curvature every time we do sextant observations. Try again, kid.
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  1207. Yep, lots of potential Darwin Award winners there.
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  1208. Only fools measure rotation in mph. Is the rev-counter in your car also in mph? Earth rotates at 0.00069444 rpm. Kind of slow. It takes 23h 56 min and 4.1 seconds to do one turn. Learn some basic physics.
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  1209. Brain damage??
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  1210.  @allanyork244  Critical thinking seem to be a skill you are not able to do. Try again, kid.
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  1211. ​ @allanyork244  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
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  1212.  @allanyork244  So you are just a TROLL as you state that yourself.
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  1213.  @Globeisahoax  Could it be that you fail to present EVIDENCE for your claims? All we see from you is spamming all over YT with BS.
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  1214.  @Listening4n0w  Why??? Don't you people like the truth??
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  1215. MNAVIGATION PROVES THE GLOBE EVERY DAY.
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  1216. Great Circle Routes is all we do crossing oceans on ships. Flight would not be any different.
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  1217.  @fritzreimer7933  Sorry boy, now look up what a scientific theory is. It is a collection of the EVIDENCE , PROOFS , backed up by the laws of nature. By claiming "it is just a theory" you have disqualified yourself from every scientific discussion. Running to your religion is just admitting you have nothing as evidence and just believe in magic.
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  1218. The edge. Isn't that that guitarist of U2??? David Howell Evans (born 8 August 1961), better known as the Edge or simply Edge, is an English-born Irish musician, singer, and songwriter. He is best known as the lead guitarist, keyboardist, and backing vocalist of the rock band U2.
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  1219. Silly claims are there to be mocked. I don't care about any religion but when they start making silly claims it is time to step in. They refuse the EVIDENCE*. They are just science deniers. That abuse science to disprove science. Nutcases. All of them.
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  1220. Prove it. Bring EVIDENCE
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  1221. Just tell me , Why do theists like you lie so much?
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  1222. Funny FACT The average Flerf is a Trump fanboy and a MAGA doucebag..
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  1223.  @Sophiedorian0535  Ga lekker buiten spelen. Je vergeet steeds om bewijs te leveren voor een platte aarde. Waarom is dat?
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  1224.  @meechandise6557  Now start presenting EVIDENCE for the existence of YOUR god. You have to do a lot better than "look at the trees" Do something no apologist has managed in over 1000 years.
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  1225. When are you going to start "thinking"??? When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1226.  @mikedavry4467  Only fools use mph for rotation.
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  1227.  @mikedavry4467  And to top it of. Earth: Acceleration due to gravity (standard) _ _ _ _= 980.665 centimeters per second per second= 32.1740 feet per second per second Mass-ratio—Sun/Earth __________= 332,958 Mass-ratio—Sun/(Earth & Moon) _ _ _ _ _ _ = 328,912 Mass-ratio—Earth/Moon _________= 81.30 Mean density______________= 5.517 grams per cubic centimeter Velocity of escape____________= 6.94 statute miles per second Curvature of surface ___________= 0.8 foot per nautical mile World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811 Eccentricity (e = (2f – f2)1/2)________= 0.081819191Eccentricity squared (e2) _________= 0.006694380 Now prove it is flat.
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  1228. The Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 rpm. Only fools use mph for rotation.
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  1229. So you failed at basic physics. Good to know.
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  1230. Noyt one flerf has ever presented EVIDENCE for a flat earth. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Get to work, boy.
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  1231. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1232. Flat earth is a gateway conspiracy. When left alone it will evolve in to anti vaxxers and Qanon. Btw. that is already happening.
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  1233.  @wezzagustus4868  If we don't know the shape of the earth then tell me what the work of every NAVIGATOR is??? If we don't know the shape we can not tell distances and directions to send people and goods to people hat need it. We know the shape and dimensions of the globe. That is why we can fly there or cross an ocean with a ship and get where we need to go.
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  1234. Try again. bring EVIDENCE
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  1235. Earth is an oblate spheroid and that is a proven FACT
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  1236. To bad that YOU have no EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1237.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  All stars move ALL the time. They are kind of very, very slow. Fastest star is Barnard's star. ~1.7 arcminute per 10 years.
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  1238. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE next time.
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  1239. I KNOW the earth is round. Observations and measurements confirm that.
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  1240.  @KILLEMALL7  And your EVIDENCE for nasa is liars?? Is??
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  1241. Go troll somewhere else.
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  1242.  @kagakai7729  You used not enough gunpowder.
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  1243. Yep, all flerfs are sheep, part of some flock, ready to be fleeced. Flat earth is a congame.
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  1244. LOL, a relitard. You believe everything priests tell you. That includes flat earth priests Pathetic.
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  1245. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1246.  @godlovesme4676  Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe. That is called geography. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called geometry. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument.
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  1247.  @Globeisahoax  Flat earther and anti-vaxxer Rob Skiba dies on okt 15 of covid. Be more like Rob.
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  1248. here is NO EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1249. Oblate spheroid. flerfs sometime also claim some round pizza world.
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  1250. Why read a book that has so many lies and B$ in it?? Why don't YOU start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth, kid. Why are christians like you lying so much all the time? Is that because you are raised to lie or does that come natural? Did you just forget the 9th commandment?? Lying for jesus is still lying. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1251. Why don't you tell us all what we overlooked?? I say you will not do it because you have nothing to show other than personal incredulity.
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  1252.  @the_E4_Mafia  All distances on earth are known. They do not fit on a flat earth map. Sorry, kid. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. As a mariner I have seen things that are impossible on a flat earth. If the earth is flat then why are lighthouse so tall?? If the earth is flat there is no need to be taller that 10 meter to see a lighthouse at any distance up to 100 mile out to sea There are the lists of all lighthouses on the earth. Find me one that is 10 meter and a range of over 30 NM out to sea. Now present EVIDENCE for a flat earth. No flerf video. Present DATA and MEASUREMENTS.
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  1253. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1254. No, that is only your brain.
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  1255.  @hotsAUc33  Why? Because you can not handle reality??
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  1256.  @hotsAUc33  Still a kid and running away.
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  1257. Go play outside, kid.
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  1258. And that is why they fail.
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  1259.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1260. We don't care about what you believe. We only care what you can prove or have EVIDENCE for. NOT SORRY.
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  1261.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest?? Please be like Rob Skiba.
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  1262.  @joem9124  The M&M experiment was looking for luminefirous aether. It depends on a rotating, orbiting earth M&M knew earth is moving. It was a failed experiment. Now go and read the original scientific papers. The erathosthenes experiment is repeated with more data points many times. It always proves a globe. When are you going to do that test?? Never? Because you are a coward that hates to see his delusions shattered.
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  1263.  @marktwain9553  What god?? Odin?
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  1264. Pathetic comment.
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  1265. The globe model was not invented, kid.
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  1266.  @madredelmarrockypoint463  So you have many "friends" that lie to you just because you are a fool. You need better friends. Btw, MARINER is not marine. There is the first bit of EVIDENCE that you are dumb. Try again.
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  1267.  @madredelmarrockypoint463  Go travel the globe. Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner. I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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  1268. All oceans curve one degree for every 60 nautical miles. Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811 Eccentricity (e = (2f – f2)1/2)________= 0.081819191Eccentricity squared (e2) _________= 0.006694380
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  1269.  @XI_Ronin  How about YOU bring some EVIDENCE for your delusions??
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  1270.  @XI_Ronin  Let me remind you of your original post. The earth is indeed flat. Forget all the information that was put into your subconscious since you were a child and open your eyes. Allow your senses to perceive your reality, instead of what's already programmed into your mind. YOUR CLAIM. You are insulting every navigator on ships and planes. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  1271.  @XI_Ronin  Like I already said, I do not care about your "believes" or "opinion". Present FACTS . I do not have respect for conmen. Why would I?? Now.. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1272.  @XI_Ronin  Nice video. Next time use one with a decent solar filter. Glare messed up the video.
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  1273.  @XI_Ronin  LOL, You are funny. You still think there is a debate about the shape and size of the earth. We do not care about your opinion. Opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody has one. You have to present FACTS
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  1274.  @XI_Ronin  Al my senses tell me the earth is a globe. Could it be that I as a mariner have tested it all and did the measurements and math? Could it be that I have seen to much that is all impossible on a flat earth? I don't care about your fifi's. Wake up to reality, kid.
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  1275.  @itsmattzed  Oh, you are going to be disappointed. The video is only for her "friends". Like she has those ;)
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  1276.  @elizagreen6950  Your Phd in math is a joke. I have a ship in Marsden Point (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Ecuador). 35 56' 14" S 174 50'02"E to 2 55' 27"S 80 42'11"W. What course must I steer? How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots?? How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/day This calculation should be easy for you. Now plot that course on your flat earth map and show it to us all with all the asked numbers. I have more for you if you want. The list of port to port distances used in commercial shipping. The lists of lighthouses and their range out to sea. You can not explain anything of that on a flat earth. That is one of the things why we know flat earth is pure BS.
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  1277. Just learn geography and try to fit the KNOWN distances on a flat map. It doesn't fit. It fits fine on a globe.
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  1278.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest??
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  1279. There was no suez canal. Columbus had to go around Africa to get to India.
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  1280. Moonshine!!!
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  1281.  @elijahcude7302  The bible is no science book. Saying, "but the bible...." makes you a fool. The bible has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.
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  1282. Now present EVIDENCE for all your claims. flat earth, god Looks like you are nice indoctrinated.
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  1283. So the book of BS and lies is EVIDENCE now???
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  1284. Ok, Done, PURE BS.
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  1285.  @pepperdeez  "But there is zero evidence to believe in the big bang." Do yopu even read the answers you have been given? Or do you prefer to stay dumb??
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  1286. No. Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner. I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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  1287. 69 miles, 60 Nautical miles, 110 km, one degree of dip.
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  1288. "So Albert Einstein says that space-time is a 4-dimensional Hausdorff differential manifold, on which a metric tensor is imposed that solves the Einstein field equations, and that metric tensor gives rise to geodesics, and objects that are not experiencing any other force will move along the geodesics described by that metric." Gravity!!!!!
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  1289.  @djrap1997  Polotics have no bearing on the shape of the earth and what the Big Bang is, So why drag it in this discussion??
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  1290.  @djrap1997  Like I said, READ THE ORIGINAL SCIENTIFIC PAPER. The big bang is an expansion of space-time. Only religious nutcases claim is was an explosion.
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  1291.  @djrap1997  You you are not familiar with what the Big Bang Theory is. Got it. The big Bang is not an explosion. You should research it before you make a fool of yourself.
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  1292. To bad that there was no EXPLOSION that created the universe. Only Theíst use that silly claim.
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  1293.  @rubenjov  BTW, did I forgot to mention I am a mariner? I have seen a lot of ships disappear HULL FIRST. A little later they always drop of the radar. That is because of a radar horizon and the simple fact that no parts of the ship can reflect a radar beam anymore because there is no part of the ship high enough. It is gone totally past the horizon. Now, where is that video you claim exists???
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  1294.  @rubenjov  Why do you even try this silly argument? As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now. No flerfspective is not the answer.
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  1295.  @rubenjov  As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  1296. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1297. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1298.  @thetruthchannel4634  It is well known that "truthers" like you are not interested in the truth.
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  1299. My cats want a word with you.
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  1300.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL . BTW, The sun is no fire. It is one big fusion bomb.
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  1301. Just as dumb as every religion
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  1302. Nope, we designed the earth to be a globe. It was build on Margrathea with our specifications.
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  1303.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1304. Go TROLL somewhere else, kid.
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  1305. I do not "think" or "believe" or have an öpinion". I KNOW it is a globe. We have the EVIDENCE . What can you show?
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  1306.  @user-ph1ob6nj7i  So you are smart enough to not be a flat earther but dumb enough to be a virus denier. Got it. What is the cause of the common flue??
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  1307. What is a lazer??
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  1308. Only in the USA. I don't care about your silly schools. We here get taught the correct history.
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  1309.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1310. Earth is still a globe.
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  1311.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1312. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  1313. Level flight means keeping the same altitude over the globe.
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  1314. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You are just a coward that thinks hiding behind his religion is a smart move.
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  1315. To bad then that you are so scientific illiterate. I KNOW the earth is an oblate spheroid. The shape and size of the earth is not an opinion or a belief. It is a FACT
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  1316.  @geomission  Every flat earth video hurts flerfs. Try again, kid.
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  1317.  @geomission  So some flerfs found a working brain and deleted their content.
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  1318. Looks like you failed basic physics at school. Did you even go to school?
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  1319. How about MEASURING and TESTING over 2300 years?? GEOgraphy and GEOmetry. Celestial navigation, basic observations, etc..... We don't think the earth is a globe, we KNOW it is.
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  1320. Cats prove them wrong all the time.
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  1321. What winds are revolving faster than the globe???
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  1322. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Your turn, There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1323. If light is absent then you can not see anything.
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  1324. A globe with the resolution needed to get a ship in to port would be 3 km in circumference. Kind of TO BIG TO HAVE AROUND on a supertanker of 500,000 ton.
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  1325. And where is your EVIDENCE for a flat earth? Why would we believe an old book that was written by ignorant goat herders as evidence? The bible is no science book. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1326. The earth was proven a globe 2300 years ago. Columbus just got the size wrong.
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  1327.  @waloacme  Flat earth is a gateway to anti-science. Now run along and tell flerfs/anti-vaxxers they are dumb.
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  1328.  @waloacme  Yesterday we heard that a well known flat earther and antivax activist. Rob Skiba Died of Covid. Still think flat earth is harmless??
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  1329. Flerfs and their sock accounts.
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  1330. Starting, Where?? What type of plane? Why is it flat if the distance doesn't change? Oh, got it. You failed basic physics.
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  1331. And doing that for over 30 years.
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  1332. Sorry but the heat shielding is on the underside. They do not re-enter upside down.
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  1333.  @Kokangalang  Round earthers.. You mean normal thinking people.
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  1334. The oceans are curved by definition. Look up the definition of the nautical mile. One degree for every 60 nautical mile.
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  1335. A laser is also light so it refracts and laser beams spread out. It is not a straight single beam
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  1336. Religious BS.
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  1337.  @bewickkingofthenorth1600  Rotation of the earth is measured with: Bob Knodel's 20.000 dollar laser gyro. Thanks Bob. Mechanical gyrocompasses work because of rotation. ROMY laser inteferometer. Etc. Be less dumb.
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  1338. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1339.  @ultraniusmaximus1536  Looks like they really did a number on you. You are aware they circumnavigate Antarctica in a sail race?? So that is also a continent. To bad you have no map of your silly flat earth and no model. And lets not start about the lack of EVIDENCE for your delusion.
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  1340.  @ultraniusmaximus1536  Sorry, kid. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Combined with all the EVIDENCE from observations and experiments we KNOW we are on a globe.
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  1341. So, The "waters above and water below" argument. So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish and we all grow gills when we die. Got it.
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  1342.  @craigpas275  Oceans have no wings. A helium balloon is lighter then air and gets pushed up by airpressure. Posting the same BS all over YT doesn't make it true.
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  1343.  @davidjd123  What experiment have you tried to prove a flat earth, kid? You have never tested or measured anything!!!
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  1344.  @carriethompson84  the bible is not evidence for anything. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner.
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  1345. Start MEASURING things. I did. Earth is a globe.
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  1346. Btw, THey landed on the moon in the moon morning.
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  1347. Not one flerf has ever presented any fact for a flat earth. No stars?? So you know nothing about photography. Do you know that all the stars are out during the day?? Can you see them? Now put sunglasses on to filter away the sunlight. Can you see them now??? Why don't you think about that for a few days.
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  1348. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1349. You need to expand your mind. There are a lot of dumb people out there. Imagine how smart people are. 50 % of those are dumber than average.... George Carlin.
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  1350. No, you need to live on the equator to lose weight.
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  1351. You don't have a flat earth map that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation. Try again, kid.
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  1352.  @PhillyDee215  Why? was the question. Your weight depends on gravity. You are not 1000 liter of water. maybe 50 so still no explanation. The ocean is not one thing. It is made op by individual molecules. Each with their own weight. Just as you can pick up one marble, You will be incapable to pick up 10000 marbles. The total weight of 10000 marbles is the sum of the weight of 10000 individual marbles. Now. Why would you be unable to walk???
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  1353.  @PhillyDee215  Why should we be pancaked??? Remember you only weigh so much. 1 qubic meter water is 1000KG.
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  1354. Don't forget to never come back here. Bye..
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  1355. First challenge for you Present EVIDENCE for your god. We can talk about your delusions later.
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  1356. Flat earth is not a theory. It fails even as a hypothesis. at the first test. Thanks Bob and Jeran..
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  1357.  @Nehner  <<< you are just a TROLL
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  1358. I did, they knew less back then that we do now. Flat earth is just a silly hoax.
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  1359. But flerfs don't understand science so there is no need to use science.
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  1360. Why would we share your denial of reality??
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  1361. And what does that have to do with the shape of the earth?? Besides the simple fact that we do not believe your silly claim.
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  1362. And an other fail for the indoctrinated relitards.
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  1363. Sorry kid. I have seen things that are impossible on a flat earth. Just lets start with a horizon. Impossible on a flat earth. Everything would fade away in the distance. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE OBSERVE
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  1364. No, just shoot them.
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  1365. That is not how things work, kid. If you want to make claims then YOU have to back them up. Btw, I have seen pictures of a plane taken from space. They are rare but exist. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1366. There are no good flat earth points. They only have arguments from personal incredulity and ignorance. All navigators on planes and ships can't be wrong Planes would drop out of the sky and ships would be lost at sea all the time.
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  1367. Yep, flerfs never think. They only pull BS out of their A$$ and lie.
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  1368.  @socrates8495  Why do you lie?? Orion is high in the sky in june at daytime.. Crux is a circumpolar constellation for you.
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  1369. Geocentrism was proven wrong some centuries ago. The sun is the largest body in our solar system. It has the most maas so it has the greatest gravitational field. That is why it is the center.
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  1370.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL . BTW, flerf and anti-vaxxed Rob Skiba died because he did not get vaccinated.
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  1371.  @skeptical5803  "do you believe in the big bang? Do you believe that nothing exploded and created everything" Nice strawman. Nobody claims that. Only theist make his silly claim that we claim that. There is no explosion, there is no nothing.' There is not one cosmologist that makes those claims. Even Krauss'"nothing is not empty. Remember what your religion claims. Your god made everything from nothing He made humans from dust on the ground by breathing on it. Now present your god. Present EVIDENCE fot it's existence.
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  1372. Next you are going to claim you have "evidence" for a flat earth.
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  1373. Did he write a book??? What ISBN number?
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  1374.  @michaelyoung5707  We don't care what you claim to be. People are dying because of it. Now.. Prove your points or.. STFU.
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  1375.  @jediafrica4766  But flers claim that gravity doesn't exist and that the plane dips its nose all the time so a level would show that. The don't know anything about the globe. They don't know in what direction down is.
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  1376. Just admit you do not know how a carpenters level works, kid. Flerfs use it to prove their B$.
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  1377. You might need glasses. BTW.. planes fly nose up always.
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  1378. Navigators care. Passengers on planes care. ETC!!!!!
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  1379. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Your claim, your burden of proof.
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  1380. If you are sceptic then you test things. Flerfs don't test anything. They just deny all evidence and reality.
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  1381. I still like to see flerfs stepping of tall building to prove gravity is not real. I'm on the pavement with their darwin award.
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  1382. So, your government lies. You voted for that government. You got what you chose yourself.
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  1383.  @firefromheaven7  Do you know anything about navigation? Do you have a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and has no distortions? Some B$ on a tombstone is not evidence for a anything.
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  1384. When was the last time you went to the middle of the Sahara?? Could it be you have nothing to look for there? Where is it stated in the Antarctic treaty that NOBODY can go there?? Could it be you never read the treaty??
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  1385. LOL, an other racist posting his B$
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  1386. No, it is a congame from grifters.
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  1387.  @glad14  We already know you don't understand anything. But sundials do not work on a flat earth.
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  1388. Yea, you have to lie to be a flerf.
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  1389. So Santa is real??
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  1390.  @laurentiutrifan8173  I told you I have seen them and have them in my gutters. What is your problem??
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  1391.  @laurentiutrifan8173  Yes, Oh you have never seen any meteorites? Go check your gutters with a magnet. Lots of micro meteorites there.
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  1392.  @laurentiutrifan8173  Ok, a dome. Now show me photo's of that dome. no CGI !!!
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  1393.  @laurentiutrifan8173  Closed system?? Where do meteorites come from? How are you going to prove your "closed system"? Just make more silly claims?
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  1394.  @laurentiutrifan8173  Ok, where is the lowest point on a globe?
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  1395. Prove it.
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  1396.  @b12beyou  Just admit you are not interested in the truth. You are stuck on your bias and BS religion.
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  1397. I KNOW it is an oblate spheroid. And I have been in Australia so I know you walk upside down, relative to me ;)
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  1398. What snowborder, kid??
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  1399. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1400. Humans are APES!! When are you going to learn that??
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  1401. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1402.  @davidgreen7392  Try again. Bring EVIDENCE next time.
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  1403. LOL, DITRH.. He is just a conman that got ripped a new one some time ago by Prof. Dave. Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 rpm. Kind of slow. I don't care hat huge numbers scare you. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1404. The average flerf is a trump fan boy. Try again peestain.
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  1405. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You have to do better, kid.
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  1406. Sure the USA is a 1st world country??? It is falling fast for over 30 years now.
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  1407. Just. OYG.. Now bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1408. Just tell all of us why we can still see all those flat earth video's when they are all disappeared? You probably mean you just suck at using search engines and internet.
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  1409. Nope. hat ignores conservation of momentum. An error that flerfs make all the time.
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  1410.  @NotSoMagicMerlin  Running away to the bible is EVIDENCE that you have no EVIDENCE for your claims. It is a failed arguments from authority. It is a fallacy. Appeal to false authority. Now go TROLL somewhere else, kid.
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  1411.  @davidjd123  So you are unable to find a basket ball with 15 ml water? Just dunk it in a pool of water and check again. kid.
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  1412. Prove it.
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  1413. Earth is a globe. Lean to live with it.
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  1414. Flat earthers are unable to provide any evidence for their delusions. There is no debate.
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  1415.  @FlatEarth-q1f  I am still waiting for that video you claim to exist. When am I going to see that?
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  1416.  @FlatEarth-q1f  As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  1417.  @FlatEarth-q1f  Polaris is not even over the north pole. Just open a nautical almanac. And lets not forget is moves a little all the time.
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  1418.  @FlatEarth-q1f  Get on a ship and go to the middle of an ocean. Now start measuring. LOOK!!! CURVATURE!!!!
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  1419.  @FlatEarth-q1f  You forgot to think. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1420. There is no flat earth model.
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  1421. Imagine the following: The schoolboard where your kids go to school is all flerfs and creationists. Suddenly they make teaching those lies mandatory. Are you still happy??? Love a government of only conspiracy thinkers?
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  1422. You assumed that flatearthers can think. Big mistake.
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  1423. tw.. Dubay fanboy, There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1424. LOL, More lies. Fishermen in Bass Straight are not going to Antarctica in summer gear. You are pathetic.
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  1425.  @officialcommitteeoftimetra9806  So, there you go... You have no case then. Question 1 sorry kid but I have seen more of the globe and all the EVIDENCE there is then you probably will ever see, Combined with my knowledge of navigation i KNOW the earth is a globe. For question 2: Looks like I have some advantage over you because I have been on the bridge of a few tankers while crossing oceans. The view of the stars in the middle of the night without light pollution is amazing. Polaris is not seen in the southern hemisphere. We use a different set of stars for sextant observations to get a position. Yes, even in this time of GPS we still keep this practise alive because lifeboats don't have GPS but a sextant and a chronometer combined with some NON-Euclidian ( BALL) math can still tell you where you are. Navigation has proven the globe and keeps doing that. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destination in the calculated time.
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  1426.  @officialcommitteeoftimetra9806  What kind of compass??? You have to be specific. Mechanical gyro compass? Magnetic compass? Magnetic flux gate compass? The Flux Gate Compass?? ring laser gyroscope (RLG)?? fiber optic gyroscope (FOG??? Sure you want to tell a sailor about compasses?? When was the last time you were on the bridge of a ship on official duty??
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  1427. A bout to get to the southpole?? How ??
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  1428.  @8520sb  We don't care what you think, only what you can prove.
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  1429.  @anthonyhuerta8780  Changing subject is not going to help you. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1430.  @anthonyhuerta8780  Funny thing is that the globe is the right representation of the earth. Every map is a projection of the globe or a piece of the globe. So, Where is your map that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation?? You don't have that. WSo the blue marble, photographed in 1972 is photoshopped with a program that did not exist on computers that can not made a decent realistic image??? Sorry boy but that is just dumb.
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  1431. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1432. The globe is a proven FACT The flat earth has no *EVIDENCE*.
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  1433. Yes, light curves. That is what refraction means.
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  1434. what is neprosos?
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  1435.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1436.  @45.chuminh81  Standing on the ground and observing your surroundings with everything in it shows you very fast that earth can not be flat. Simple observations show everybody the curve. Flerfs are to dumb to realize what they are looking at.
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  1437.  @bruhboi6736  So you are blind?? Simple observations prove the curve every time.
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  1438.  @Redboi-sp6pi  Funny that you make all kinds of silly assumptions and think you are right. There is no need to go to outer space to KNOW the shape of the earth. The earth has been mapped and measured all over. We know all distances on the earth. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit fine on a globe. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. All mariners and international pilots can do these calculations. That is how we know we are right. I am not going by what I have been told. I'm going by my own observations and experiences. Do not try to tell a mariner the shape of the earth. YOU WILL LOSE.
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  1439.  @Redboi-sp6pi  NASA never told me the shape of the earth. I have my own observations from all the time I was at sea crossing oceans and travelling all over the globe. Be smart kid, do not try to tell a mariner the shape of the earth.
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  1440. And how about the people that KNOW the world is a globe? Can you tell me what they think? Are you a mind reader??
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  1441. The celebrated truth is a channel from relitard conmen that can not handle reality. The rest of what you typed is just BS. You have no EVIDENCE for a flat earth. because the earth is not flat.
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  1442. No.
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  1443.  @stevensoucy6503  You don't even know what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is. Try again, kid.
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  1444. Lots are trolls, some are that stupid.
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  1445.  @shelly6482  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1446. SCALE!!!! One degree per 60 nautical mile
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  1447. It would matter a lot for all navigation.
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  1448. So you heared about the NASA Jew penuins with the laser weapons that guard Antarctica :) Get better b$ filters, kid.
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  1449.  @ragnarkisten  Sorry but planes just throttle down and because their airspeed is lower the plane will lose altitude. A plane in a nose down position is one that will crash or doing acrobatics.
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  1450. Planes land nose up. Just a fact for everybody.
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  1451. You just proved the globe.
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  1452.  @philip2774  Why would a blimp get lost? Is the blimp spinning??
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  1453.  @dano336  < Just a TROLL.
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  1454. That is why we KNOW the earth is a globe. 2500 years of research.
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  1455.  @inglewoodron6869  Try again when you have EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1456.  @johnbull6909  How do you know? X-rays are all CGI!!!
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  1457. And what fake moonlanding do you want to see?? TinTin on the moon???
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  1458.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1459. Just more reasons to stay away from islamic B$ and lies.
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  1460.  @scotttillinghast9665  Insults?? The last resort of the loser.
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  1461.  @scotttillinghast9665  What has your covid to do with the shape of the earth?? Science denial is science denial in any form. I just reacted on your NON-sequitur, kid.
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  1462.  @scotttillinghast9665  Can't you read anymore?
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  1463. Earth is still a globe.
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  1464.  @Dixey71  And?? What is your point?? Do I have to protect pathetic religious nuts from the truth???
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  1465. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1466. Go to an airshow.
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  1467. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  1468.  @esminjones959  There is no EVIDENCE for a flat earth. The globe is a proven fact by observation and measurements. So NO EDGE!!
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  1469.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1470. How?
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  1471. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1472. Why are christians like you lying so much all the time? Is that because you are raised to lie or does that come natural? Did you just forget the 9th commandment?? Lying for jesus is still lying. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1473.  @tonyornelas9374  Because that is how the middle ear works.
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  1474. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1475. What a load of B$.
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  1476. So it doesn't matter if you are in Whangarei ( NZ) and you got to take your ship to Guayaquil ( Equador) ?? You need the distance ta calculate your fuel. You need to know in what direction you have to go to get there. Btw. That would be a greatcircle course over the paccific starting at 101 true and end at 50 deg. Now isn't that funny that a straight course looks like a curve?? Must be because we live on a globe.
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  1477.  @Starden1939  Oops, Sorry.
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  1478. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims next time.
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  1479.  @mushroombruise492  Go play outside, kid. Nobody is interested in your little worm.
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  1480.  @mushroombruise492  You don't even know who Aristarchus is and what experiment are you talking about??
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  1481. What Aristarchus' experiment, kid??
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  1482.  @johnswanson7662  If you are not here to argue, delete you silly comment. Everything you typed is wrong.
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  1483.  @outofthebox7  The only time a plan's nose is down is when it is crashing. You don't want to see that bubble move during flight.
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  1484.  @robertlascelle1602  What is a fucken telcope?
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  1485.  @robertlascelle1602  The camera was mounted on a panel on the left side of the stairs on the LM. It was activated from inside the LM. Looks like you failed to do your research.
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  1486. The Camera that filmed Armstrong's step was mounted on the left side on the LM. Is was activated from inside there. Looks like you failed to do your research.
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  1487. ​ @jgbrandi  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Why can't you do that?
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  1488.  @phildavenport4150  It is some sort of sickness from flat earth priests. "I am not a flerf but": etc.. I wonder what flat earth priest started this kind of reasoning/excuse. BS. Like " I have questions but I will never accept you answer. because i put my fingers in d my ears and reject everything you present. " Flerfs are dumb. Period.
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  1489. So, The "waters above and water below" argument. So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish and we all grow gills when we die. Got it. YOU ARE DUMB AND GULLIBLE!!
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  1490. The part you see is the lit part by the sun.
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  1491. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1492.  @phildavenport4150  LOL. Sextant, Nautical Almanac, chronometer, Bowditch, calculator en set them free in the pacific. Learn or die!!
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  1493. Just more reasons to stay away from religions and all their b$.
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  1494. Your Brain? Yes we know, a flat disk.
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  1495.  @RealCoolGuy  Your"visum/permit/orginasation" You know, to survive there, your food, gear, etc.. You are on your own. there is no 911 to call.
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  1496.  @RealCoolGuy  You can also do an expedition to Antarctica IF you do the paperwork.
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  1497.  @RealCoolGuy  Do I need visa to go to the USA??
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  1498. Does he USA turn you away when you don't have the visa?? Does France pester usa citicens because of the USA policy about visa?? YES!! just to piss of the USA!!! Go France!!! Just do the paperwork and you can go there.
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  1499.  @flatplaneoregon7075  We don't need to prove anything, kid. You are the one making claims, YOU have the burden of proof. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1500. Have you EVER seen a lens that is flat?? How do they work??
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  1501. o you prefer lies over the truth. Got it.
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  1502.  @roceythecatbg2846  It is pointless. He will scream FAKE!!! anyway. Flerfs always do that. We have enough satellites making photo's
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  1503. Pathetic.
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  1504.  @dirkardostevergreen4827  Explain to me why the pilars of the verazano narrows bridge are vertical but the distance between to tops is more than the bottom?? Could it be that the surveyors did calculate the length of the bridge and found the need to use the curve of the earth?? You are just a builder. You never have build a building of more than 200 meter long.
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  1505.  @greg4272  So you did not do the math but you only parrot some flerf BS. Why don't you tell us all that you don't know anything without telling us that you don't know anything?
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  1506.  @greg4272  Nice excusses. Now show us the math you used to calculate how much light the moon reflects. You can make silly claims all you want but you have to present the EVIDENCE for those claims. You flerfs keep failing to do that. So, no map, no model. Still NO FLAT EARTH
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  1507. You just live in denial of reality.
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  1508. A guy is waiting for brain surgery, a very risky procedure. The surgeon gives him the option of a brain transplant if he pays privately, his insurance wont cover it. He is offered the brain of Einstein for 1 million pounds, (it has been kept in deep freeze but is still viable) and a flat earthers' brain for 10 million pounds. he asks why is the FE's brain so expensive compared to Einstein's. the surgeon replies "Well the FE's brain has never been used and has been washed."
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  1509.  @onatics  The bible is no science book. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  1510. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth next time.
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  1511.  @MohammedRaoufOracleTrainer  You obviously don't know what a fish eye lens is or what it does. Why don't you research that?? Then explain to us all why there are NO fish eye lenses used as zoom lens.
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  1512. A plane follows the air pressure. Air pressure is caused by gravity.
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  1513. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You are funny. You still think there is a debate about the shape and size of the earth.
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  1514. The simple FACT that the bible is filled with myth, lies and BS is enough to dump that book. It has nothing to do with reality and how things work.
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  1515. And then?? I seen a moon behind the clouds and a sun behind the clouds. Looks like you do not understand how thin clouds can be.
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  1516.  @MacMyKitty  Flat earthers have no other arguments tan personal incredulity and a lack of knowledge of basic physics. Not one shred of EVIDENCE ever found from flerfs.
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  1517.  @MacMyKitty  So, what EVIDENCE do you have for your self and not from some flat earth priest??
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  1518.  @MacMyKitty  Do you want to see the photo books of all the ships I have been on?? Just come visit me. I also have a nice Video of the last trip of the M.S. Niso before we brought it to the breakers in Chittagong. You can look that up. Search M.S. Niso , Shell tankers. Most info is in Dutch.
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  1519. They never think.
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  1520. Spinning ball?? Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 RPM.. That is kind of slow. Water curves. Ever seen a waterfall?? Yep Gravity is different in different places on the globe. Tested, measured, documented. A feather will fall faster if it is closer to the center of gravity. That you can not observe that is just the lack of the right equipment. So.. got any more BS??? Why don't you start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth instead of the usual globe bashing based on arguments from personal incredulity???
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  1521. I trust my own observations and tests. The earth is an oblate spheroid.
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  1522. You still have no knowledge. If you did, you would not be a silly flerf.
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  1523.  @justaguy2023  Probably not and they suck at using google to look it up.
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  1524. But that astronaut works for NASA so why do you believe him. You know that NASA lies about everything.
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  1525. Religion is not going to make the earth flat. The bible is no science book.
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  1526. Navigation proves the globe. EVERYTIME!!! Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  1527. Why waste a good rocket? Just dump then on the south pole on dec. 20 and pick them up 72 hours later so they can watch the midnight sun. Let them try to explain that.
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  1528.  @Mornomgir  Let's try.. drive.google.com/file/d/ 1ymjCtS-zlhr46bUOJIpFhz5TOgVUPXrV/view?usp=sharing
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  1529.  @Mornomgir  Like I said, the list is not complete. The complete list I have in on my google drive. but YT won't let me post links so I can not show you the list.
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  1530. That was pathetic. Try again, kid.
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  1531. To bad flerfs can not and will not present EVIDENCE for a flat earth The globe has all the EVIDENCE you need.
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  1532. When you take a serious look: Air traffic. LEARN NAVIGATION!! Water is never level: LEARN BASIC PHYSICS! There is no EVIDECE for a flat earth.
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  1533. Flerfs hate facts.
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  1534. Denying all the photo's is not a smart move. There was no CGI in 1946 or in 1968
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  1535.  @truthseekerlucy9823  Nope. Just a troll. Joined 7 sep. 2021 . Truth in the channel name to comply to the truth paradox.
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  1536. You are not even interested in the truth.
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  1537. You presumed they THINK. Bad, Very Bad.
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  1538.  @marleonetti7  And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!! By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific
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  1539.  @marleonetti7  "So Albert Einstein says that space-time is a 4-dimensional hausdorff differential manifold, on which a metric tensor is imposed that solves the Einstein field equations, and that metric tensor gives rise to geodesics, and objects that are not experiencing any other force will move along the geodesics described by that metric." That you failed basic physics and don't understand general relativity is not my problem. You have to do a lot better, kid. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1540.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  BS.
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  1541. Paul, go to antarctica, walk inland as far as you like. We don't care you die of hypothermia
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  1542.  @michaelward878  You did not answer my question. So the maya religion is the true religion??? You worship quatsequottle? the snake god?
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  1543. Make a drawing to scale and you wil see it is very possible.
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  1544.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest??
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  1545. What lies, kid?? What curvature formula, kid? What ancient maps, kid? What "anomalies" kid??
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  1546.  @russellrattys6581  So. Rotation of the earth is super fast. It is one revolution per day A.K.A. 0.00069444 RPM Fast isn't it?? The the centrifugal forces on the equator are 0.003% of the gravitation. Yes we measured it. Absolutely not enough to be thrown of. So you can not explain stars/sun/moon/planets. So you don't know anything about the solar system and the universe. So because YOU are dumb, the earth is flat. WOW. Pure logic from a flerf. Why don't you start learning some astronomy. We don't care what you "think" We don't even know if you are able to think. You have made that very clear.
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  1547. Flerf understand very little. They fail at geography, geometry, math, basic physics, history, etc...
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  1548. Go to sea. learn navigation. See the globe.
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  1549. Now show us that "firmament" kid. On a flat earth the sun would never set. You have to do a lot better. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1550.  @lunakovacevic3165  So you do not KNOW the shape of the earth and still listen to conmen. Got it.
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  1551. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  1552.  @simplyjimmy7265  0.00069444 rpm is not fast. Earth ROTATES once per 23h 56 min and 4.1 second. less than half the speed of the hour hand on a clock. Only fools measure rotation in miles per hour.
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  1553.  @simplyjimmy7265  No, I am on an oblate spheroid.
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  1554. Earth is still a globe.
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  1555. Flat earth is idiot and absurd. There is no EVIDENCE for a flat earth. There is a lot EVIDENCE and PROOF for the globe. Flerfs just fail at basic physics, geography and geometry.
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  1556.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL . Be more like Rob Skiba. Anti-vaxxer that died of covid okt 15. Get lost Alec.
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  1557. So you faile basic physics just like every other flerf.
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  1558. Try Mort subiet. That goes a lot faster.
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  1559.  @robertbrewster6890  And how big did they tell you that the earth is? And who told you that? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. DITRH is just a conman. Sunlight is not from the sun? Spectroscopy must be in a container? DITRH got ripped a new one almost over a year ago.
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  1560. And what shape has a flat earth? So, a disk, and where is it??
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  1561. So, you are also a racist next to a flerf. WOW, great combo.
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  1562. They refuse all help.
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  1563.  @StephenJelinek  If you have ever used that then you would now the black swan is a hoax and your formula is pure BS. Try again. What formula are you using?
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  1564.  @StephenJelinek  The formula you posted is for laying train tracks. Just admit you never used a decent calculator.
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  1565.  @StephenJelinek  And where is the eye height of the observer and the corrections for the fact that we have an atmoSPHERE?? Nice formula if you are laying train tracks but that formula can not be used for sight.
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  1566. More bible BS???? Go troll somewhere else kid.
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  1567.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1568. Try again when you have EVIDENCE ,.
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  1569. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Try again, kid, when you have a working brain.
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  1570. Have you ever been to an air show???
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  1571. To bad navigation has proved the earth to be a globe. There is no need to see the earth from a distance to know it is a globe. Just as you do not need to see a basketball to know it is a ball. Just get a tape measure to measure that ball. We did the same with the earth. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  1572.  @Paull1398  Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  1573. Gravity has nothing to do with electricity
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  1574. Could it that heir schooling system is fycked??
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  1575.  @OlamideAdelaNCC  To bad that that world wide flood never happened. It is just a stolen story from the epic of Gilgamesh, adapted for a monotheistic religion and exaggerated out of proportions. It is pure BS.
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  1576. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. We have provided EVIDENCE for the globe. Flerfs ignore it. Time for the flerfs to present heir EVIDENCE .
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  1577. I don't care about liars. I don't care about conmen that make silly claims. I even don't care about stupid people that "think" they know something. No EVIDENCE to bad . you lose.
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  1578.  @diandot1  BTW.... isn't the flerf mantra that you never trust ANYTHING from NASA??? Why do you believe those papers??? Because you can twist them based on a faulty premmisse??? We cal that CHERRY PICKING!!!
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  1579.  @diandot1  Btw.. You could not show me any of those document you talk about. Why would I believe anything you say.
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  1580.  @diandot1  Have it your way. We know the earth is a globe and rotates. Flat earth makes impossible claims. Btw.. I know it is a globe. I have crossed oceans and have seen the evidence. I did experiments and observations. It's a globe, I checked.
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  1581.  @diandot1  ASSUME!!!! Yhat means it is not so in reallity. Plabes bullets, etc all move with the earth All motions are taken in to account. It is called preservation of momentum and that goes back to newton's first law. You keep forgetting that. Or is your next claim that if you jump up in a train that is moving at 150 miles/hour you get thrown to the back of the train??? CONSERVATION OF MOMENTUM!!!!
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  1582.  @diandot1  I know those "flight manuals" They are explaning the basis of flight. The teach you that you have to balans 4 forces. Power, Drag, Lift and Gravity. Nothing more. THE BASICS. The also have that little word in there. "For this we ASSUME a flat earth. ASSUME!!!!! You keep missing that word!!!! The next course is about navigating on a globe. But give me a link to one of those. I have seen them before. They propose and assume a lot. Flerfs love them. But forget what the paper is about and keep missing that word.
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  1583.  @diandot1  Nope. Those documents have one word in there that you keep missing. You did not read them. They all talk about a principle of something and for simplicyty they use a frame of refference and leef the motion and shap of the earth out of equations to keep it simple. You are cherry picking. Read the papers. Link them. Your word has no meaning to me.
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  1584.  @diandot1  So.. not only do you not have evidence for a dome but you also know nothing of amateur rockets. Nice curve there btw.
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  1585. Nope. that is a fast despin device. That rocket burned it's fuel and hit nothing. How can it hit anything at that very low height while maintaning that the sun is 3000 miles high and in the dome???
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  1586.  @thethinkingman-  You forgot to think again.
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  1587. Try again, boy. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1588. There is not one bit of EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Even you failed to present any. If there was you would have presented it. Now..... When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. That flat earth map is worth over 16 milllon dollar. So, get to work on that and become rich
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  1589.  @maladvojka8376  Now prove it.
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  1590.  @maladvojka8376  You are still an ape.
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  1591. They aren't.
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  1592. ".. if you agree that the plane t is 70% water" no it isn't It is only 0.02% water. Planet comes from the greek word planeta meaning wandering star. I thought you flerfs DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH Looks like you failed to do that.
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  1593. To bad then that they ALL claim that the earth is not a globe. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the Not a globe earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the NOT A GLOBE earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO NOT A GLOBE EARTH. Face it kid. You are not interested in the truth. You can't handle reality.
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  1594.  @ryanmurdoch9581  Funny how that work. 😁😁😁
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  1595. Why don't you show us those "experiments" Could it be you are just dumb and have fallen for a lot of conspiracy videos from conmen?
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  1596.  @coopcooper3194  And lvl doesn't mean flat, Or does my blood sugar lvl means it is flat?
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  1597. Level doesn't mean flat.
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  1598. Hm.. the level of hard liquor?? oonshine etc???
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  1599. Just remember that YOU are just an ape.
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  1600. Flerfs don't think, kid.
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  1601.  @Globeisahoax  Get your Herman Cain Award soon.
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  1602. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1603.  @manyjacob5761  I have done my research. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1604.  @brucelebeau411  Then show us that "proof" Because we measure rotation and curve all the time.
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  1605. LOL.. More silly BS...
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  1606. They forgot to test and measure their claims. Now... There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1607.  Adam K  If non living matter can't create living matter then explain to me what you are made of other than hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen and some other chemicals. All non living matter.
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  1608. Nope. believing something is not the same as KNOWING something. Flat earth has no facts. It is all B$ and lies.
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  1609. Might be??? Try again, kid. The earth is a globe.
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  1610. Liars and conmen are never innocent.
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  1611. Nobody claims the earth is a perfect sphere.
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  1612. The bible is no science book. Show us EVIDENCE for a flat earth and stop telling lies from the bible.
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  1613. Religious nuts and science/reality deniers.
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  1614.  @johnburns1902  I read your other comments already. You know better and you can not fool a mariner.
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  1615. Nice story, I'll give you 4/10.
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  1616. So you leared lies about columbus. I don;t care that you learned the wrong things. I learned columbus knew the earth is round and he just wanted to find a new route to india. We already know that the american schooling system is fucked
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  1617. Confirmed. Troll.
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  1618.  @thed0n902  Bow to a fictional caracter from a book of myth and stolen embellished silly stories and poems?? In your dreams, boy.
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  1619. Never knew B Marble was a white dude. Or M benz, etc....
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  1620.  @yobro683  Get a telescope and watch.
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  1621. You forgot /s
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  1622.  @akherashepsutera2013  Sorry kid but ewe have mountains of EVIDENCE for the globe. now go play outside, kid.
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  1623.  @akherashepsutera2013  Try again. So flerfs are no physicits... and? Not one navigator is a physicsist. You do not need that to KNOW that that the earth is a globe.
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  1624. YES, we have mountain of evidence for the globe. Why make a video about it all? That video would be hours long and flerfs would just deny it all. Just watch some more videos from the debunkers.
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  1625.  @aodh5966  So curvature is not measurable?? Then tell me why we measure it all the time? Every time we look at a lighthouse we measure the curvature. I am still waiting for you to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Arguments from personal incredulity have no value. Fly to the sun??? Stay with the subject kid. We are talking about the shape of the earth. NOT about hos we know the distance to the sun.
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  1626.  @aodh5966  I don't need NASA to prove the earth is a globe. The greeks did that 2300 years ago without NASA and conmen on fakebook and YT. So.. when are you going to start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth?
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  1627.  @aodh5966  No they don't. The rest of your rant is just that. A rant.
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  1628.  @aodh5966  There are no armies patrolling Antarctica. There are millions of photo's of the earth as a ball. You just ignore them all or claim they are CGI or FAKE. That is DOGMA for all flerfs. Deny the EVIDENCE that is presented.
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  1629. And you just wonder why religious indoctrination starts at very young age. SMH.
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  1630. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. It is tested every day by ships and planes that arrive at their destination.
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  1631. Flerfs have no points. They have BS and arguments from personal incredulity. And what guy reached the "top" of out atmoSPHERE??? Are you reffering to a ballonflight?? And you think that was the TOP of our atmoSPHERE??? OYG. So the X15 flights don't count??? reaching a bit over 100 KM??? And do you think that the atmoSPHERE just stops there?? Have you not heard that even the moon is in the EXOSPHERE of the earth with just a few atoms per qubic meter??
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  1632. So Pearl Harbour is a false fact now??? That is really pathetic for you to say.
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  1633. Flerfism is a GLOBAL problem.
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  1634. Yep. That is called a stall. What is your point??
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  1635.  @BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY  As said before, you just dismiss it all.
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  1636. Oops.. I forgot.. But, But, But ,but bible...... Like that is evidence for something other than chistians endorsing slavery, genocide/massmurder, etc.. Christins never read their own book. They only cherry pick.
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  1637. To ad that flefs never produce EVIDENCE for their case. There is nothing to counter. Just assumptions and personal incredulity.
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  1638.  @pub1iuz  Emojies are not arguments or evidence. Try harder and use your rain for once.
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  1639.  @pub1iuz  Then your question will not be answered Refusing to answer what you want and how do you tell the difference makes you just a dishonest flerf. Do you realize that nobody can photograph all satellites in one photo? I can show you a photo that has all visible ones in it. The ones behind the globe are not visible. Just look up "pale blue dot" because that is what you want to see. You are going to be so disappointed but it has all the satellites that are visible on it.
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  1640.  @pub1iuz  First answer the 2 questions we all asked. Then I can show you the photo you want. Till then I don't know what you want to see.
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  1641.  @pub1iuz  What is it you want to see?? A satellite in space or the earth from space? First you have to explain to us all how you can tell the difference between CGI and a real photo. Till then it it pointless to show you anything.
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  1642. What "firmament"?? You mean that dome shaped mountain in Antarctica?? You have to do a lot better than that. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation?
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  1643. There is no "rubber" rule to calculate a distance on the globe.
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  1644. You presupposed they think. Don't do that. :)
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  1645. Try again, relitard. Why are christians like you lying so much all the time? Is that because you are raised to lie or does that come natural? Did you just forget the 9th commandment?? Lying for jesus is still lying. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation?
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  1646. Next week 26 of may, lunar eclips. Just watch it flerfs. Be sure you get the square shadow on your photo's Or the silouet of the elephants and turtle ;)
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  1647. ​ @georgiesifuentes94  Go to a church read the Bible you'll know everything You go to church and read the bible so you know everything now??? Ok, WHERE DO I LIVE!!, In WHAT CITY!! So you don't need electronics??' Why are you using a computer???
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  1648.  @georgiesifuentes94  What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. You have to do BETTER!!! Claiming that there is EVIDENCE is not going to do it. You have to actually present that evidence. Now run along and ask your god what I want to see as EVIDENCE . After all , you claim he is onmiciënt so he has to know.
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  1649.  @georgiesifuentes94  And I am saying your god has no EVIDENCE for it's existence. Just try it. Present *EVIDENCE*. Don't start with silly debunked claims. Your death cult has tried that for over 2000 years now. They all failed.
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  1650.  @georgiesifuentes94  Are you now saying he is just a coward?
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  1651.  @georgiesifuentes94  So you think your claims have any merit without EVIDENCE ? Ave you told your god already I invited him for drinks and a powwow??
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  1652.  @georgiesifuentes94  Prove it!! Send him over to my house. He knows where I live because you claim he is omnicient. 22:00 will do. I want a word with him about his "plan" I'll have beer, I guess he is more a red wine guy as he likes barbeques so much. After that he can report to the international court in The Hague for his crimes against humanity. So how about that?? Be sure to tell him because I will take it out on you when he doesn't show.
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  1653. George, Organize it. Get your god in front of the U.N. for a Q & A session. We will blame you if it never happens.
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  1654. You've been told that "evolution is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about evolution. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument. The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in evolution because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled. In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be. Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law. This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory. Evolution is the same. There's the fact of evolution. Evolution (genetic change over generations)3 happens, just like gravity does. Don't take my word for it.4 Ask your science teacher, or google it. But that's not the issue we are addressing here. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant observations. Next time someone tries to tell you that evolution is just a theory, as a way of dismissing it, as if it's just something someone guessed at, remember that they're using the non-scientific meaning of the word. If that person is a teacher, or minister, or some other figure of authority, they should know better. In fact, they probably do, and are trying to mislead you. Evolution is not just a theory, it's triumphantly a theory!
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  1655. Evolution is a SCIENTIFFIC THEORY . Flat earth is not even a hypothesis.
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  1656.  @dooeege298  So you wasted 13 years of your life but can't present any EVIDENCE . We see that a lot with flerfs that claim that they have "special knowledge" It always turns out they are just paranoia and pathetic. The research I have done, Some years on ships crossing oceans and observing the earth around me. Lighthouses and their range, Only possible on a globe. Helicopters do not vanish in the waves, they land on a carrier that is hidden behing the horizon. Etc.. You just have no idea what possibillities are on board ships to test the globe. Just navigation proves the globe every day and has done so over 300 years.
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  1657. There is no EVIDENCE for a flat earth. I checked, PERSONALY . I researched the flat earth priests. They are all conmen.
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  1658. So educating people is not useful??? No wonder muricans got stuck with Trump.
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  1659. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1660. "A 15 degree per hour drift" Thanks Bob.
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  1661. BS.
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  1662.  @tzizzzz  I don't need critical thinking. As a sailor i KNOW the earth is a globe.
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  1663.  @tzizzzz  Then stop posting BS that both flat and globe are right.
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  1664.  @tzizzzz  Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  1665.  @flatearth9140  You are trying to hard.
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  1666. Every form of science denial hurts somebody. Remember, the people vote and have kids.
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  1667.  @bobstevens146  Eric Dubay's "200 proofs" are all debunked a few times. Why are you supporting that NEO-NAZI conman?? Are you also a NEO-NAZI???
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  1668. Just admit you don't know what that is.
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  1669. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. No you have no EVIDENCE for a flat earth, only arguments from personal incredulity and ignorance. Bye
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  1670. Something like that. He got the size wrong.
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  1671.  @brandonmcdonald8356  When are you starting to test the claims of flerfs??
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  1672. Be more like Rob Skiba.
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  1673.  @bigbosss7911  He said the modern flerfs began with the conman Rowbotham in the 1800's.
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  1674. There is no such thing a s "overly" educated people. there is just dumb flerfs and people that know better.
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  1675.  @philaypeephilippotter6532  And again you assumed to much. Never say "I think". That is just an opinion. You know or don't know. I go with, I don't know they have a mind, because there is no evidence for that. ;) How am I doing???
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  1676.  @KangenAlec  < TROLL.
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  1677. You are not even interested in the truth.
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  1678.  @yestervue4697  There was a time that people backed up their claims. You can't do that. So what happened?? Lies are more important than the truth??
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  1679. To bad that flerfs prove nothing and can not present any proof and evidence for their claims.
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  1680.  @raqialife9286  Static water is,, And where do I find static water??
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  1681. Still peddeling this turd of an argument?? Why do you need to lie to justify a flat earth?? As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done. Examples on my channel. I'll wait for your video now.
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  1682. Learn navigation and how to plot a great circle route. Or get a globe and some string and pull the string from LA to Beijing and watch where it goes. That is the shortest route between LA and Beijing. A great circle route
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  1683. It will matter to you when a flerf calculates he distance to a city wrong and you are in that plane. You will die when the plane runs out of fuel because a flerf used a Gleason map and he measured it short.
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  1684. Why waste money on you when you are going to scream CGI!!! and FAKE!!! No matter what we show you?
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  1685. How far would buildings lean back at 6 miles according to you when on a globe of 40.000 Km?? We have lots of real pictures and even a life video feed. You just scream FAKE at everything. Btw, did you know that the geocentric model you like has also a globe earth? And, Yes we did research it all. Flat earth is a hoax and flat earth priests are all conmen or religious nutcases or both.
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  1686.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  On many flights, they would give away leveling devices to all passengers for free, so that everyone would be able to observe the dip of the horizon and proves Earth is a sphere. And as a nice side effect, to quench our thirsts, too! Such devices are called ‘bottled water’. Using these simple ‘instruments’ on a flight, we can demonstrate that Earth is a sphere. By drinking half of the water in a bottle of water, we can use the bottle as a simple leveling device. Firmly close the bottle, hold the bottle horizontally, and aim for the horizon line, all while keeping our eyes level with the surface of water inside the bottle. If weather condition allows it, it is not hard to observe that the horizon is below the eye level. The phenomenon is called the dip of the horizon, and can only occur with such magnitude if Earth is a sphere. Flat-Earthers repeatedly assert that “horizon always rises to eye level, no matter how high we are from the surface.” Using these simple ‘instruments,’ it is trivial to prove them wrong. The horizon curves away and down. So. you are wrong.
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  1687.  @chrisbolland5634  They refuse the results of their own tests when it proves the globe.
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  1688. Wjhat ice wall, kid?
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  1689. Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. And then.. I have done enough tests and observations. I have seen so much that is all impossible on a flat earth Nobody told me anything. Who told you that the earth is flat??? Or did you watch to much videos from conmen?
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  1690. You have to prove that EVERYTHING in the bible is the truth before we will consider it as proof of anything.
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  1691.  @leighton138  Explain to me why you never see a full moon at noon but only at midnight. Did you notice that the lit part of the moon is always facing in the direction of the sun?
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  1692. B$, try again. An arch/dome is just the strongest construction.
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  1693. A carpenters level only measures the local direction of down. 110 KM further it will still do the same. We know the difference is 1 degree.
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  1694.  @supersoftjellyfish5310  A "creator" that can be hidden by his own creation?? Own research?? What have you ever tested, kid.
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  1695. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation?
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  1696. Your priests have lied about everything,. You just are indoctrinated
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  1697.  @Globeisahoax  <<< Just a TROLL
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  1698.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest??
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  1699. You failed to think, kid.
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  1700.  @HoennEmerald  BTW, YES, own observations and tests. As mariner I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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  1701.  @HoennEmerald  Sorry, kid. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. How do you know it is flat?? Did you watch YT videos from conmen and grifters?
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  1702. Just admit you failed at geography and geometry at school.
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  1703. Oops, I researched flat earth and he conmen/flat earth priests. It is a load of BS.
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  1704. Columbus just wanted to find a new route to india. He just got the size of the earth wrong. VERY WRONG!!! I do not care that all americans get taught the wrong history.
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  1705. You have no EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1706. Just admit you don't even know how a spirit level works..
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  1707.  @alexanderackermans201  Just admit you don't know what a fish eye lens is and what it does. Are you saying that you see a sphere when you look at a rubix cube?? Because your exes are round?? Btw.. Show us the math.
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  1708. S.F. art usually does.
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  1709. You forgot to read those scientific papers. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1710. So you failed basic physics, you don't know anything about aerodynamics and use rpm for rotation. The earth *ROTATES at 0.00069444 RPM. Only fools use mph for rotation. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. 500 years ago we kicked out the geocentric model. The geocentric model had a globe as the center of the universe. Try again. Or jump out of your window now. Make sure it is high enough.
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  1711.  @realityhijack1985  Try again, kid. It looks like you failed basic physics and geometry. If the earth is flat that height doesn't change how far you can see. Lighthouses would be 10 meter tall and all would have a range out to sea of over 60 nautical mile. Those light houses do not exist, kid. Prove me wrong. Find me a light house of 10 meter tall and a range of over 60 nautical mile List of lights are online for everybody to see and download.
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  1712.  @Laxhiee  I still win every pubquiz People love me in their team. .I wonder why..... Could it be I know a lot physics where you fail all the time??
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  1713. Your brain?? Yes.
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  1714. Basically bad math and bad understanding of basic physics.
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  1715. Go on vacation when the pilot of the plane has no idea where to fly or how much fuel he needs to get there. OYG!!! you die!!!!!
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  1716. Try again when you have a working brain.
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  1717. The northstar is not constant. It moves. Observed, documented and tested. 2000 years ago polaris was Thuban designation Alpha Draconis (α Draconis, abbreviated Alpha Dra, α Dra), is a star (or star system) in the constellation of Draco. A relatively inconspicuous star in the night sky of the Northern Hemisphere, it is historically significant as having been the north pole star from the 4th to 2nd millennium BC.
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  1718.  @Globeisahoax  You are type 3.
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  1719. plumb.
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  1720.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1721.  @MalkiYah_King  Why can everybody go to Antarctica if he wants to do some research there?? They still need people there, so apply for a job there. I trust what I have seen during all my travels over the globe.
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  1722.  @MalkiYah_King  BTW, learn some astronomy. Not one star stays in the same position. They all move. Research Barnard's star, the fastest star you can see with a telescope. Ir moves at 10.3 arc-second per year. That big numbers scare you is not my problem.
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  1723.  @MalkiYah_King  All ancient civilisations were dumb.
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  1724.  @MalkiYah_King  It is a FACT that flerfs scream CGI and FAKE at any picture we show. It is a FACT* that flerfs deny all EVIDENCE we show then when it contradicts the flat earth narrative. Now try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth. A map that conforms to reallity and that can be used for navigation. Measurements and data we can check. You keep failing to do that. Could it be you do not have any of that because the earth is not flat??
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  1725.  @MalkiYah_King  Funny FACT the globe is no theory but a *FACT*. Now start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth. No flerf video. Bring measurements and data. Thinks we can all check.
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  1726. So, navigators don't know where to go, how far it is and how much fuel they need to go there?? Try again kid when you can present EVIDENCE for your claims. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument.
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  1727. So you did not listen?
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  1728. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1729. Try again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1730. The shape of the earth is not an opinion or belief. The earth is a globe and that is a FACT .
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  1731. Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811 Eccentricity (e = (2f – f2)1/2)________= 0.081819191Eccentricity squared (e2) _________= 0.006694380 Flat?? WHERE!!!
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  1732. Why don't you buy a telescope?
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  1733. Try again. Science is no religion, kid.
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  1734. So we have to have respect for conmen and grifters? Why?
    1
  1735. Earth is round, Gravity killed Epstein
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  1736. Nope. There are this kind of fools out there. These people vote and before you know it you have that kind of people in your government.
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  1737. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1738. Drunk again?
    1
  1739. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1740. Mariners KNOW it is round because they have observed the EVIDENCE
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  1741. And??
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  1742. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You can't handle reality and the truth.
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  1743. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1744. "beyond Antarctica" From where?? From the tip of south America that would be Australia and VV. What the F.. are you even talking about, kid?
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  1745. You must be an american. The only country that keeps telling that lie. In Europe we learned that he was trying to find a new route to the east indies. He had the circumference to wrong and did not know about the America's.
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  1746. Go to limburg. Holland is for noobs.
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  1747. So you failed to do research. Operation paperclip: the us operation to loot as much tech and technicians as they can from Germany. Nasa is he follow up of NACA. NACA was only airplanes. It changed to NASA to include rockets. Lots of real pictures from space, starting in 1946, long before computers were able to make CGI and long before photoshop. That YOU scream CGI and FAKE at every photo is just YOU being dumb. So you have never seen satellites?? Do you even look at the sky at night?? I see hem all the time. Flerfs have no great arguments. When examined it always fals apart. We on the otherhand have EVIDENCE en PROOF but you are not interested in that. You just keep repeating flerf BS.
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  1748. That groep did not form nasa. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. No nasa needed.
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  1749.  @scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463  BS.
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  1750.  @jasoncampbell4203  So you are to dumb to understand science so you just claim it is all fake. Got it.
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  1751. So you are a grasshopper? The bible is no science book, kid.
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  1752. True history|?? You mean hoe the USA is perverting their own history?
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  1753. And how does that "prove" that? Your refusal to look at photo's from space and all other evidence is not an argument.
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  1754.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest?? Now show me a flat earth map that conforms to reality and can be used for navigation.
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  1755. Truth matters.
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  1756. Where is wally did a video about tow-tanks ;)
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  1757.  @awesomezilla  That experiment used wrong math and did not account for refraction. Partical refraction?? lets do just refraction. Light is refracted as it passes through the atmosphere. When refraction is normal, objects appear slightly elevated, and the visible horizon is farther from the observer than it otherwise would be. Since the effects are uniformly progressive, they are not apparent to the observer. When refraction is not normal, some form of mirage may occur. A mirage is an optical phenomenon in which objects appear distorted, displaced (raised or lowered), magnified, multiplied, or inverted due to varying atmospheric refraction which occurs when a layer of air near the Earth's surface differs greatly in density from surrounding air. This may occur when there is a rapid and sometimes irregular change of temperature or humidity with height. If there is a temperature inversion (increase of temperature with height), particularly if accompanied by a rapid decrease in humidity, the refraction is greater than normal. Objects appear elevated, and the visible horizon is farther away. Objects which are normally below the horizon become visible. This is called looming. If the upper portion of an object is raised much more than the bottom part, the object appears taller than usual, an effect called towering. If the lower part of an object is raised more than the upper part, the object appears shorter, an effect called stooping. When the refraction is greater than normal, a superior mirage may occur. An inverted image is seen above the object, and sometimes an erect image appears over the inverted one, with the bases of the two images touching. Greater than normal refraction usually occurs when the water is much colder than the air above it. If the temperature decrease with height is much greater than normal, refraction is less than normal, or may even cause bending in the opposite direction. Objects appear lower than normal, and the visible horizon is closer to the observer. This is called sinking. Towering or stooping may also occur if conditions are suitable. When the refraction is reversed, an inferior mirage may occur. A ship or an island appears to be floating in the air above a shimmering hori zon, possibly with an inverted image beneath it. Conditions suitable to the formation of an inferior mirage occur when the surface is much warmer than the air above it. This usually requires a heated landmass, and therefore is more common near the coast than at sea. When refraction is not uniformly progressive, objects may appear distorted, taking an almost endless variety of shapes. The Sun, when near the horizon, is one of the objects most noticeably affected. A fata morgana is a complex mirage characterized by marked distortion, generally in the vertical. It may cause objects to appear towering, magnified, and at times even multiplied. Source, The American Practical Navigator. edition 2019.
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  1758. Bible B$. Try again relitard. Present EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1759.  @stewiesaidthat  Is the math for general relativity to hard for you?? Do you even know any math?
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  1760. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1761. Do flerfs still make money??
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  1762.  @jbullock7445  There is no icewall and no dome. Get over it.
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  1763. What about it?
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  1764. They are mostly coward, unemployed losers that do not have the nerve to test things. The moment they do, they prove the globe, so they stopped.
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  1765. Nope it as a chair.
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  1766. I have not seen that much flerfs here.
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  1767. Be more like Rob Skiba.
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  1768. Some people believed that. But believing is not the same as KNOWING ,kid. We KNOW it is a globe for 2300 years.
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  1769. When are you going to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth??
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  1770. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. So, what no fly zone over the arctic? What about the Antarctic treaty? What firmament?? Earth has never been flat.
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  1771.  @thethinkingman-  You forgot to think again.
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  1772. Your brain is flat, No doubt about that.
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  1773.  @ncedition  So you are arguing with a non working brain. Got it.
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  1774.  @ncedition  I gave you the EVIDENCE to check. Just go and check distances between city's on earth. It doesn't fit on a a flat earth. I do not care if you don't understand geograpy and basic geometry.
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  1775. You can believe what ever you want but making up your own FACTS is not a right. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe That is called GEOGRAPHY, earth measuring. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. That is called GEOMETRY. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe.
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  1776. Nobody is claiming a perfect sphere. Here are some numbers for you. World Geodetic System (WGS) Ellipsoid of 1984 Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Flattening or ellipticity (f = 1 – b/a) _ _ _ _ _ = 1/298.257223563= 0.003352811 Eccentricity (e = (2f – f2)1/2)________= 0.081819191Eccentricity squared (e2) _________= 0.006694380 Rotation 23 h 56 min 4.1 sec, 15.0410669873 degrees per hour, 7.292115 × 10^-5 rad/s
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  1777. Thanks, Bob.
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  1778.  @thereallilelo.1212  Debunk it all, kid. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earthers are unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  1779. Sure you can. They just don't "believe" you because....reasons.
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  1780.  @Nikki67762  Disprove evolution. Earn that Nobel Prize. Why don't you???
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  1781. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1782. Still missing EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Look up what a scientific theory is.
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  1783. So your p900 proves a flat earth?? How??? 2500 years ago ships were also disappearing hull first. From that we had the hypothesis. It was measured 2300 years ago and again in the 9'th century. 500 years ago we kicked out the geocentric model as it was proven wrong. The geocentric model had a globe as center of the solar system. Only in the USA were religious nuts that refused everything. Try again kid. Do research?? Again??? Boy, as a mariner I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  1784. Try again. kid.
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  1785. When are you starting to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth?? Oh, you don't have that. Why not?
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  1786. The bible is a book filled with lies, myths and B$. Try again kid.
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  1787.  @Globeisahoax  Do you know what RADAR is, boy?? Do you know how RADAR works, boy???
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  1788.  @MrMarco855  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1789. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You just run your mouth without ever providing evidence.
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  1790.  @XAP113  The world wide flood never happened. There is no EVIDENCE for that around all the neolithic monuments in all of Europe. There, that was easy.
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  1791. Enoch... Religious BS. Try again, kid. Present *EVIDENCE*, not more fairytales.
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  1792. Spirit = Alcohol. There is alcohol in the tubes.
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  1793.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1794. If you accept reality then you throw out the bible.
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  1795. Flat earthers is a GLOBAL problem.
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  1796.  @Globeisahoax  TROLLING again?? Btw, are you also a NEO-NAZI holocaust denier like your flerf high priest??
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  1797. The job of EVERY NAVIGATOR is to get from A to B and calculate the distance and direction. Navigators know it is a globe. Navigation proves the globe EVERYDAY.
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  1798. We measured it.
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  1799.  @XxlightxX  Tell me Why do theists like you lie so much all the time?
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  1800.  @ivannn0222  That was Bob Knodel and his 20.000 dollar laser gyro. Video on my channel.
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  1801. LOL, who and how??? Names, boy. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence
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  1802. Funny fact, You don't need to go to space to know the shape of the earth. We know all distances on the globe. They do not fit on a flat earth, they fit nice on a globe. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye. Measuring things tell us it's shape.
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  1803. Even the horizon is below the level.
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  1804. Sure kid they are all CGI made in a time when CGI did not exist and made on computers that did not exist with a program that did not exist before 1988. You must be some expert on photo analysis. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1805. Silly myth. The bible is no science book.
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  1806. Nope. Up to canada, curving to greenland, over iceland and then to norway sweden, south finland to moscow 5817.9 nm. Use skyvector . com and use MMMX and UUDD as airports to get a plot/
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  1807. No flerf can present EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Why is that??? Could it be that the earth is not flat?
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  1808. You missed one word. "vision" A.K.A. a dream, probably ate to much magic mushrooms. Remember, the bible is no science book. Lots of BS in there.
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  1809. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  1810. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1811. So a few years at sea observing things that are impossible on a flat earth is not research?? Navigation based all on the globe doesn't work??? WOW. Sorry, kid. Navigation has proved and is still proving the globe everyday. Airplanes and ships keep arriving at their destinations after the CALCULATED time after the CALCULATED distance in the CALCULATED direction. We can CALCULATE this because NAVIGATORS KNOW the shape and dimensions of the globe. Oops. There goes your whole argument. Bye.
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  1812.  @UncleSamSiam  Did you read my comment?
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  1813. I love to see "proof" of a flat earth. You might first look up what proof and evidence is. You are going to fail anyway.
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  1814. Dubay never "destroyed" anything. He is just a conman. just like every flat earth priest.
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  1815. What "explosion"?
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  1816. I just made an omelet from your egg.
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  1817. What god??
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  1818.  @beautifulblessings3418  LOL, Stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner. I have seen to many things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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  1819. ​ @beautifulblessings3418  You are not interested in the truth. You have no flat earth map and no flat earth model. Looks like you are a relitard that can not the truth.
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  1820.  @beautifulblessings3418  You are the one with the book of lies and myth, kid.
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  1821.  @TheSUDSS  I will try to explain this one time. Passport: You need visa to get in to certain countries. Mariners book: To list all the ships you were on and to confirm your qualifications. Inoculation book: you need that to travel to some countries. 3 books you need to travel all over the world as a mariner that never knows where he is going.
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  1822.  @TheSUDSS  So you never heard about a vaccine book that every mariner has? I got a lot of vaccines during my time at sea. Yellow fever, etc... You need those when traveling a lot abroad. Even back a long time ago. And that was all a long time before this covid *PANDENIC*. Most shots were only for tropical diseases. This time it is WORLD WIDE . If you don't understand what is going on I can not help you.
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  1823. Even that is wrong. Flerfs exist because dumb people exist.
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  1824. Yep. The horizon is a circle around you. Horizons only exist on a globe. The observer is always on the apex of the globe. Only mariners in the middle of oceans ever see that.
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  1825. Try again when you have a working brain.
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  1826. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Why can't you do it, kid?
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  1827. Yes, Did you forget to read it?
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  1828. Why would dumb people want us to believe that the earth is flat when there is no EVIDENCE for that?
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  1829. OBLATE spheroid.
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  1830. Yes. astronomers and other people already knew the earth to be round. for 2000 years.
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  1831.  @Globeisahoax  <<< Just a TROLL
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  1832. In december???
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  1833. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1834.  @maladvojka8376  Not KNOWING something is not the same as believing. The default position is I DO NOT KNOW Try again, kid.
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  1835. WOW, so you failed history too. All educated people knew the earth is a globe. Eratosthenes and Al Biruni proved it.
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  1836. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. We already know that "truthseekers" are not interested in the truth, kid.
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  1837.  @dvlogha1758  I do not care that you can not handle reality. I also don't care that you never left your hometown. Try again when you have EVIDENCED for a flat earth. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1838.  @dvlogha1758  Nope, that is reality. Something you can not handle.
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  1839. So, a globe.
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  1840. Why don't you start by presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth? When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1841.  @clintonhart2652  The UN flag is just a flag. All maps on paper are distorted. A good globe is the only representation without distortion.
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  1842.  @clintonhart2652  To bad that all ancient maps never show the whole earth and are all terrible distorted.
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  1843. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1844. 500 years ago galileo galiley had this fight with the pope about the earth orbiting the sun. He proved the heliocentric solarsystem and they restricted him for that. The church realized they were not the center of everything. It took 500 years before the church apologized for that.
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  1845. I'ts a globe. Follow the money. WHY would airline companies and shipping companies spend lots of money to make detours?? NAVIGATION proves the globe. Are you even able to think??? Arguments from personal incredulity don't count for anything.
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  1846. ​ @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1847. CONTEXT!!!!
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  1848. The globe was proven 2300 years ago. 500 years ago the geocentric globe was kicked to the curb because we had better observations and we got the heliocentric model. Why are you lying?? Or are you just parroting BS some flat earth priest told you??? Why are you so dumb not to check their claims???
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  1849. SR71 will do the trick. Or book a ride on a mig.
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  1850. air?
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  1851.  @jamesr3505  If the ship is partly BEHIND the horizon it is not fully visible Remember?? BEHIND, OVER the HORIZON? .Can you zoom it back in to full view??? NO YOU CAN'T.
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  1852.  @jamesr3505  When it is OVER the horizon that HORIZON is also seen as refracted. The KEYWORD is OVER!!
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  1853. As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. Be a hero and make that video to prove us all wrong. It can't be done.
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  1854.  @winkhan9792  There was no mainstream media in 300 BC. There was also no mainstream media in 900 CE. Everybody can test the globe for himself. Why don't you try that? Or do you prefer to be ignorant and are just lazy?
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  1855. So, The "waters above and water below" argument. So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish and we all grow gills when we die. Got it. Can you explain to us all why religious nuts like you lie so much all the time??
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  1856. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1857.  @anthonyhuerta8780  Yep, Earth is a globe. It *ROTATES at 0.00069444rpm. That is 360 degrees is 23 h , 56 min and 4.1 second., 15.0410669873 degrees per hour, 7.292115 × 10^-5 rad/s Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles
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  1858. Any more B$ conspiracies you want to share with ups? You forgot to prove your claims, kid.
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  1859.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1860. No, the bible is just a book of lies and B$
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  1861.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1862. Your keyboard is broken. Fix it.
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  1863.  @satenu78  <<<<Typhoid mary.
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  1864. Yes you are. Reality is wasted on you.
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  1865. BS. Try again and add EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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  1866. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. BTW, be more like Rob Skiba. Who got banned for flat earth b$?? Dubay got banned for nazi propaganda. Others for hate speech... So who got banned for flerf B$, kid?
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  1867. ​ @DextersLab3000  < 100% TROLL
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  1868.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1869. GRAVITY killed Epstein.
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  1870.  @shan1630  It is not my problem that YOU refuse to test things or take the trouble to observe your environment. Earth is still a rotating globe. Maybe it is time to get out of your basement where you only watch YT video's from conmen and go out and observe reality. There is lots everybody can test for him self if you really want to.
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  1871. There are a lot of things you can test yourself. Foucault pendulum: A weight and a rope. All you need is atall place to hand it. Erathostenes test. : 2 sticks in the ground at some distance from each other. Range of lighthouses: Just a walk on the beach. Ships disappearing behind the horizon: Binoculairs. etc......
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  1872. Gravity is not selective. It reacts to the mass of an object. It is called weight. Did you notice that oceans have no wings? Neither do you, cars and busses. Birds and butter flies have wings. When the flap them they can fly. When the stop flapping their wings they drop like a stone.
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  1873. Why are you using a computer? Do you worship your computer? How is your computer your god?
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  1874. Navigation proves the globe. Here is the list of port to port distances https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16694076/SFH00000/Pub151bk.pdf&type=view It doesn't fit on a flat earth Height and range of lighthouses prove curve. https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/NGALOL When making landfall ONLY the tops of mountains and tall buildings come in to view first. The beach/shoreline is NEVER visible. Sextant observations and sighreduction calculations only work on the globe. Radar observations prove curvature. Helicopters don't land in the middle of the sea. The land on the ship that was behind the curve. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  1875. Yep. That was the reason. Never to prove a globe but Americans love to mess up their own history. Basically because they fYcked up so much.
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  1876. And distrust in their own tests and experiments. Thanks Bob.
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  1877. Why do you believe it is flat? There are so many other options to chose from. Pyramid, cube, octagonal, etc...
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  1878. Space-time is a 4-dimensional hausdorff differential manifold, on which a metric tensor is imposed that solves the Einstein field equations, and that metric tensor gives rise to geodesics, and objects that are not experiencing any other force will move along the geodesics described by that metric." I don't care you suck at general relativity.
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  1879. Try again.When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1880.  @antjuanmcghee3762  The gleason map was never used for navigation. It is useless for navigation. It has no scale, no way to determine distance, etc.. Daniel Bowditch?? I could not care less about his religious beliefs. Even my name is from some saint but that has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. Now lets see.. waters above and waters below BS..... So "heaven" and "hell" is above and below the earth and in the water. God is a fish or aquaman and we all grow gills when we die. Got it. Claiming Genesis is proof for something is asinine. Claiming the miracles is even dumber. Sun directly above me at 12:00?? Nope. never. first of all i live to far above the tropic of cancer and the sun moves between the 2 tropics. Second, The rotation of the earth is not exactly the same speed all the time. Research Analemma and Equation of time. and WTF is an earth dial??
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  1881.  @antjuanmcghee3762  Non of my admirality seacharts are flat earth maps. They have the scale printed on it, they have the distortions mentioned and mention that they are a projection of a piece of the globe.
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  1882.  @antjuanmcghee3762  The gleason map was never used for navigation. It has no scale and lacks resolution. All it is, is a timezone map with huge distortions.
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  1883. Just be more like Rob Skiba.
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  1884. Go to sea and observe your surroundings. Lear navigation.
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  1885. Navigation proves the globe. 300 years of navigation got ships across oceans without Decca, Loran, Satnav, GPS. Compiled in one book, updated on a regular basis. The Navigators bible. The American Practical Navigator, better known as THE BOWDITCH. Download it here. https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_1.pdf&type=view https://msi.nga.mil/api/publications/download?key=16693975/SFH00000/Bowditch_Vol_2.pdf&type=view It has everything in there. Be smart and don't challenge a sailor about the shape of the earth. Flat earth is unable to produce a decent map. No map, NO flat earth.
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  1886. The shape of the earth is not a belief. We KNOW it is a globe.
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  1887.  @josesolis-ib3vf  Nobody is claiming the earth is a perfect sphere.
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  1888. It's an Oblate spheroid.
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  1889. To bad that "firmament" is just a fancy word for the sky above you and nothing more.
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  1890.  @luigicirelli2583  When are you going to MEASURE things and prove a flat earth? There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. You have no empirical evidence.
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  1891. Go play outside, kid.
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  1892. eh, that already happened in 2016.
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  1893. Any fool can learn navigation and see the earth is a globe. It is not that hard.
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  1894.  @Jaafar_Alkhalifa  There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1895.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL . Flight routes and shipping routes all prove the earth is a globe. A logo is not a map.
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  1896. ​ @2tonedangert891  Explain to me why we would see all stars like comets? You don't have a satellite phone. You have just a cellphone. I see the stars move all he time. Just go and check. Oh, you forgot to do that.
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  1897.  @2tonedangert891  Funny thing. If science is such a joke, explain to me how your computer work. You still have to present EVIDENCE for your claims.
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  1898.  @2tonedangert891  "simple observation" And you forgot to tell us what observation. Looks like you have a real problem with reality.
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  1899.  @2tonedangert891  Ah.. there it is, "the beauty of our creator" Now start presenting EVIDENCE for that "creator" You have to do a lot better than "look at the trees" or any other debunked argument. You have to actually present EVIDENCE .
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  1900. What "creator"???
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  1901. A rainbow is an optical phenomena of refraction of light in raindrops. It is at 42 degrees in front of you when you have the sun straight behind you. It is a circle but you can only see part of it. You can see a full circle at some waterfalls and sometimes parashutists see the full circle right in front of them. We don't need to be physical on a space ship. We have satellites with camera's to take pictures. Just as we have drones with camera's to make video and photo's. Arguments from personal incredulity don't count for anything.
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  1902. :) ask Nathan Oakley :) Have fun in his echo chamber.
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  1903. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1904.  @yestervue4697  Try again. Bring EVIDENCE .
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  1905. No, your brain just failed.
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  1906.  @josuegalindo2616  The geocentric flat earth has ... • No working model, or map. • No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude. • No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year. • No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere. • No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth. • No idea what powers the sun and the stars. • No idea of the distance to the stars. • Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works. • No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all. • No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation. • No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon. • No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth. • No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are. • No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world. • No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth. • No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used. • No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly. • No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature. • No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature. • No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics. • No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid. • No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe. • No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox. • No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon. • No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view. • No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres). • No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude. • No explanation as to why the Artic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year. • No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky • No explanation for how tides work. • No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth. • No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level. • No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth. • No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity. • No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome. • No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively. • No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s. • No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere. • No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located. • No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system. • No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system. • No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion. • No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs. • No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set. • Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way. • No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too. • No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia. • No credible reason why millions of people (mostly scientists, engineers and technicians ) over decades would lie to keep the globe earth alive, and why nations and commercial enterprises, accountable to the voters and shareholders respectively, would spend (waste) $2 trillion a year , each and every year to maintain the globe lie. • No idea how it is possible to measure the value of G, the universal gravitational constant and in so doing, verify the theory of gravity. • No scientific papers publish in the last 100 years supporting the flat earth. • No idea why there is snow on hight moutains with a local sun as it has to get warmer and snow should melt if you get closer to the sun. Now the globe earth and the heliocentric model have answers that are consistent with each other to all of the above that the flat earth can't explain, but the globe earth is wrong and the flat earth is correct , even although the flat earth model is almost useless at explaining anything? Have I understood the situation correctly? The flat earth is gaslighting to the power infinity
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  1907. Show us that observation.
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  1908. Columbus was trying to find an alternative rout to India. He fucked up on the size of the earth and did not know about the america's. I don't care about bad education systems and the lies that are taught there.
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  1909. So your parent learned you BS and now you are FYcked up. Got it.
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  1910.  @MrSirhcsellor  Aristarchus of Samos (/ˌærəˈstɑːrkəs/; Greek: Ἀρίσταρχος ὁ Σάμιος, Aristarkhos ho Samios; c. 310 – c. 230 BC) was an ancient Greek astronomer and mathematician who presented the first known heliocentric model that placed the Sun at the center of the known universe, with the Earth revolving around the Sun once a year and rotating about its axis once a day. He was a student of Strato of Lampsacus, who was the third head of the Peripatetic School in Greece. According to Ptolemy, during his time there, he observed the summer solstice of 280 B.C. Along with his contributions to the heliocentric model, as reported by Vitruvius, he created two separate sundials; one that is a flat disc and one that is hemispherical. He was influenced by the concept presented by Philolaus of Croton (c. 470 – 385 BC) of a fire at the center of the universe, but Aristarchus identified the "central fire" with the Sun and he put the other planets in their correct order of distance around the Sun. Copernicus was not the first.
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  1911. Got any problems with the vatican? Take it up with the pope.
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  1912. Funny than that we KNOW the earth is a globe for over 2300 years.
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  1913. Key word APPEARS!! Try again. Because the sun and moon appear to be the same size as my thumb.
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  1914. Save it for bible camp, kid. The bible is no science book.
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  1915.  @yestervue4697  You are done with me? because??? Yes we all know. You can not present the EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Could it be it doesn't exist?? Could it be we have all the EVIDENCE and PROOF for the globe. All you got is a failed education and personal incrfedulity.
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  1916.  @yestervue4697  Video's from Eric Dubay, The neo-nazi anti semitic conman. Sorry kid all his proofs are BS. Why are you supporting a neo-nazi?? Are you one also??
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  1917.  @yestervue4697  Still MISSING EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Admit it. You have nothing.
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  1918.  @yestervue4697  TRy again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth next time.
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  1919. To bad that we have proven the globe for over 2300 years now. Looks like you also do not know what a SCIENTIFIC THEORY is. You might want to look things up BEFORE you type silly comments. Not AFTER you have proven that you don't know anything. Making up BS physical laws is not going to help you.
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  1920.  @josesolis-ib3vf  Sorry kid but you made this claim about spinning and other BS It is your task to prove your points. Present EVIDENCE that all stars are still in the exact same spot as they were 2000 years ago. You keep failing to do that. I have given you the explanations why you think you see the same stars in the same position and I told you that they ale move. It is your turn now to prove your claims.
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  1921.  @khenbornagain  Still waiting for the ancient starcharts and the exact positions of Thuban and Alpha Ursae Minoris 3500 years ago.
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  1922.  @josesolis-ib3vf  You sound like a 5 year old that thinks that laughing is the solution to your personal incredulity. Use more LOL and emojies kid, That makes it very clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
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  1923.  @khenbornagain  You stated : while our whole solar system is moving at 448,000 mph hurling randomly through an infinite universe…… the stars should have changed completely by now if not even just a bit, because we are literally in a completely different part of the universe" This implies that no stars move with us. Now read again what i typed.
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  1924.  @josesolis-ib3vf  I have proved that your argument from personal incredulity has no value. You have to do better, boy. When are you going to present EVIDENCE for a flat earth?
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  1925.  @khenbornagain  Arguments from personal incredulity have no value. You just made a claim without even looking at the DATA and assumed that all stars are fixed but only our solar system moves. That is your big fault.
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  1926.  @khenbornagain  No, you missed the point. Just tell me the exact SHA and declination of Polaris (Alpha Ursae Minoris). 2000 years ago the pole star was Thuban. Alpha Draconis Tell me the exact SHA and declination now. Even the paterns have shifted. Now tell me, When all the stars we seen move in the same direction as us with about the same speed, Orbitting the center of the milkyway, why would constellations change a lot? Tell me, what is random about moving all in the same direction and about the same speed? Why would there be new constellations when we are talking about position difference of less than arc seconds?? You seem also yo forget the vast distances to the visible stars. You forgot to include starcharts of 3500 years ago. You forgot to look at them.
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  1927.  @josesolis-ib3vf  Google is only a search machine. It doesn't present any data, only links where you can find what you seek. Looks like you don't know how the internet works.
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  1928.  @khenbornagain  All stars move all the time. Now show me a star map that has all the stars at *EXACTLY the same spot in the sky. Looks like you are forgetting a lot of things. 1: all the stars you see are all moving in about the same direction around Sag A*. 2: all the stars move a little bit but it is so little that you can not see then in your life time. You just don't live that long. 3: you forgot to measure things. in 10 years Barnard's star moves ~1.7 arc second. So present EVIDENCE that not one star has moved in 3500 years.
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  1929.  @josesolis-ib3vf  Earth ROTATES at 0.00069444 rpm. Al stars move at arc seconds or less per year and are very far away. So why would they change all the time? You don't even live that long to observe a star moving position in your life time. Buy a telescope and start observing Barnard's star. In 10 years it will move 1.7 arc minute. Observe Rigel Kentaurus. it mover 3.7 arc second per year. So that is 0.5 arc minute in 10 years. You can not see that with your eyes. You have to measure that. That is where you flerfs always fail. You keep forgetting to measure things. That you have no idea about how big the universe is , is no excuse to be that dumb.
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  1930.  @josesolis-ib3vf  Looks like you don't know in what direction down is. Now try again. In what direction is down on a globe?
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  1931.  @josesolis-ib3vf  So, from your own words, "if you can not prove it" STFU. Now start presenting EVIDENCE for a flat earth. How about a map that conforms to reality and can be used for navigation. We are waiting, boy. Present it or STFU.
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  1932.  @Kokangalang  Don't judge?? OYG.. You failed chemistry and you want me to not call you a fool??
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  1933.  @ingeborgpostelnik4748  So cars ONLY produce carbon MONoxide and no co2??? So you failed at chemistry and don't know anything about internal combustion engines. Just tell me what is a carburator for?? What is a fuel fixture for a good running engine??
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  1934. So, science need understanding and education... WOW. Now start at disproving 1 + 1 is 2. Flerfs are just to dumb.
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  1935.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a *TROLL.
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  1936. Try again. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1937. Just say you failed basic math and physics at school. That is why you are a flerf.
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  1938. Only in religious schools for fundies that can not handle reality. Try again. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1939. The church NEVER opposed the globe. They use the geocentric model with the globe. Galileo just proved the sun is the center of the solar system. THAT was against the church. So you went to a dumb school that teached that Columbus proved the globe. That is a fairytale that only exists in the USA. Columbus wanted to find a new route to the east indies. The world already knew earth is a globe. Columbus just underestimated the size.
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  1940. And??
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  1941.  @allenhammer7923  I have a book for you to read. The American Practical Navigator. Maybe your sailor friends know it better as THE BOWDITCH. Links are on my about pare for the both parts. Download it and read it. Be smart and don't try to bullsh(t a mariner.
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  1942.  @allenhammer7923  I did and you are ignoring a lot of physics.
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  1943.  @allenhammer7923  You are just ignoring a lot of things. What is odd about different reflections?
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  1944. You forgot to look out of the window on that plane. ||Everything you typed is wrong. You have no model of the flat earth. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for your claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1945. Bad education and religion does that to them.
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  1946. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Go a few years to sea and observe reality of the globe.
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  1947.  @thethinkingman-  And YOU still forget to present that DATA and FACTS Looks like you are just a TROLL .
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  1948.  @thethinkingman-  What DATA and what FACTS ??
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  1949. Clearly YOU are not a pilot or mariner.
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  1950. Miracles do not exist. Neither does magic.
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  1951. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE for a flat earth. Leave the bible at home. It is not a science book.
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  1952. Hm.... let me guess, in a plane?? What did I win? Btw, you left in north westerly direction. Great circle course. Earth is a globe.
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  1953. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH.
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  1954. You mean that book that claims the sun sets in a muddy stream? Trying to use the quran or bible is not a good argument.
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  1955. Planes all land nose up
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  1956. Mja... the goat herders guide to the galaxy is not a science book. 12 men walkked on the moon. The landing sites are photographed by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter
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  1957. I like to know how jets land on moving aircraft carriers. You can not land on moving things. SMH.
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  1958. Not enough.
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  1959.  @VIKING_BALL  As a SHIP passes over the horizon the hull starts to disappear. There is no way that zooming in will ever bring back a ship in to full view once it has gone over the horizon and its hull has disappeared. There is no flerf that ever made a video to prove that point. It can't be done. Examples on my channel.
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  1960.  @Zripas  What model?? They don't have a model.
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  1961.  @Globeisahoax  < is just a TROLL .
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  1962. Just more BS. Spamming the same BS is not helping you.
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  1963.  @flatoutfudge2692  I have seen the loom of a lighthouse. One night when we were in Malacca Straight steaming west from S'pore, I saw a beam of light sweeping over the horizon. The lighthouse of One Fathom Bank was not in sight. The Light was not visible but the beam was. It sweeped over the horizon from right to left and high over the ship. This observation is only possible on a globe. Just one of those things I personally saw. Not one flerf can explain that observation. Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner. You have never left that basement you live in. I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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  1964. Try again. kid.
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  1965. What fake moon landings??
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  1966. Equatorial radius (a) ___________= 6,378,137 meters= 3,443.918 nautical miles Polar radius (b) _____________= 6,356,752.314 meters= 3432.372 nautical miles Mean radius (2a + b)/3 __________= 6,371,008.770 meters= 3440.069 nautical miles Your point?
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  1967. Try again. Bring EVIDENCE . The bible is no science book.
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  1968.  @Abstract_zx  Preference for a N-gate or P-gate??
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  1969. BS. Btw.. The bible is no science book. Firmament is just a fancy english word for the sky above you.
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  1970. When is the live broadcast of you debating your math teacher about if 2 + 2 = 4 ??
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  1971. The catholic church supported the geocentric model. Did you forget that that model has a globe as center??
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  1972. Flerfs are not interested in the truth. All we see from them is lies.
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  1973.  @robertpunu7624  WOW.. just WOW. You failed at math, physics, etc..... The geocentric flat earth has ... • No working model, or map. • No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude. • No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year. • No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere. • No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth. • No idea what powers the sun and the stars. • No idea of the distance to the stars. • Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works. • No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all. • No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation. • No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon. • No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth. • No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are. • No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world. • No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth. • No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used. • No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly. • No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature. • No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature. • No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics. • No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid. • No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe. • No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox. • No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon. • No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view. • No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres). • No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude. • No explanation as to why the Artic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year. • No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky • No explanation for how tides work. • No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth. • No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level. • No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth. • No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity. • No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome. • No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively. • No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s. • No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere. • No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located. • No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system. • No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system. • No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion. • No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs. • No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set. • Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way. • No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too. • No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia. • No credible reason why millions of people (mostly scientists, engineers and technicians ) over decades would lie to keep the globe earth alive, and why nations and commercial enterprises, accountable to the voters and shareholders respectively, would spend (waste) $2 trillion a year , each and every year to maintain the globe lie. • No idea how it is possible to measure the value of G, the universal gravitational constant and in so doing, verify the theory of gravity. • No scientific papers publish in the last 100 years supporting the flat earth. • No idea why there is snow on hight moutains with a local sun as it has to get warmer and snow should melt if you get closer to the sun. Now the globe earth and the heliocentric model have answers that are consistent with each other to all of the above that the flat earth can't explain, but the globe earth is wrong and the flat earth is correct , even although the flat earth model is almost useless at explaining anything? Have I understood the situation correctly? The flat earth is gaslighting to the power infinity
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  1974. What dome???
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  1975. Just an other reason to stay away from islam and it's lies. There is this very tiny thing about flat earth. YOU have to present EVIDENCE for YOUR claims. When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What is be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. Just tell me wry relitards love to lie all the time, kid.
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  1976. The average flerf is a trump fanboy.
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  1977. Flerfism is a GLOBAL problem.
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  1978. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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  1979. What is a lazer?
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  1980. Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth. All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!) Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior) Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,) Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior) Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats) Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson) Where is the proof for a flat earth??? A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities??? Come on guy. You have to do better. Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth?? Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity. The devil??? OYG, you are one of those fairytale believers!!! As far as I know the death cout of your god is quite a bit higher then that of your devil. Go and read your book of tairytales and start counting. Your god in a mass murderer.
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  1981. Let's see. Believe... No we KNOW People upside down... Sorry boy but down it toward the center of the globe. Santa clause...... No.. just a dumb argument. Masons.... Dumb argument.. Masons did not exist when the globe was proven 2300 years ago and again 1100 years by Al biruni. Now....... When are you going to present a map of the flat earth that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation? When are you going to present the model of the flat earth that explains all observations? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. No map, NO model, NO FLAT EARTH. It is clear you are not one of the smart people.
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  1982. 3000 years ago!!!!
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  1983.  @ksplinter007  Go watch Prof. Dave humiliate DITRH. Your hero got ripped a new one.
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  1984. Why talk to a PROVEN CONMAN??
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