Comments by "J Groovy" (@jgroovy1973) on "Nancy Pelosi on impeachment: Trump is not worth it" video.
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Pelosi and like-minded Dems are too focused on the next election. They want to run against an embattled, wounded Trump. They want to fight the devil they know. Pelosi saying she opposes impeachment now is bad strategy and bad timing.
It's too close to the end of the Mueller probe, too close to the beginning of the House probes, and too far from the next election. Pelosi should have just said, "Let's wait for the facts". She's sick of cries of "Impeach him!" drowning out her agenda message. Tough shit. If they can't work their agenda and conduct oversight at the same time, they shouldn't be in office.
It's premature to assume they won't get 20 Senators to go along with removing Trump. If Mueller or SDNY uncover slam-dunk evidence, the Republicans will have to support Trump's removal. Most likely, though, there won't be slam-dunk proof, but really strong proof. Then, the Republicans won't want him impeached. They'll want to oust him in a primary - for the same reason they defend him now - they want to hold on to power. Then, the Dems won't get to run against the wounded devil they know.
Trump planted William Barr to water-down the Mueller report, which he will do with anything short of a smoking gun. Then, the choice for Republicans will be to primary or not. Then, the Dems will be running against a newly strengthened Trump or a new Republican who, compared to Trump, will look really good to swing voters. Either way, it puts Dems in a weakened position.
It ISN'T time to impeach yet. But instead of raising the bar on impeachment, Dems should be lowering it. They should be saying, "He's inches away. We're seeing lots of evidence".
That's because there IS lots of evidence, albeit circumstantial. Trump's people met with the Russians to trade dirt for sanction relief. Roger Stone bragged about communicating with the very hackers and disseminators of the DNC emails. 16 of Trump's people lied about over 100 Russian contacts. Trump's charity is being probed for what the NY AG called "a shocking pattern of illegality". He has been named an unindicted co-conspirator in an FEC violation that involved bank fraud. There's the inaugural committee, security clearance concerns, a pattern of obstruction, and MUCH more. Plus, he's an HABITUAL liar.
If Dems had balls, they'd point those things out every chance they get. Then, the media would report those statements rather than reporting Pelosi's signal that Dems don't have the stomach for impeachment, and are more interested in elections than justice.
"He's not worth it"?? He's too horrible to remove, and so bad that he's above the law?? She doesn't want to divide the already divided country? Congrats, Nancy. You divided your own party.
There's something worse than a messy impeachment - leaving a crooked, lying, incompetent President in office until an election that's still almost two years away. And since Trump refuses to deal with the Russians, he will let them help him win that election again.
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AOC says being a moderate Dem is no good because they should say what they believe rather than worrying about the Republicans using their rhetoric against them. Be an idealist, not a strategist. I say, that's bullshit. You can't get what you want if you can't win, and there has to be SOME compromise. Look at what's happening now. We're being ruled by a Republican party and a President who doesn't give two shits about what half of the country wants. You have to BALANCE the two - idealism and strategy.
I have respect for AOC and these "far left", new House members who stick to their principles, but they're still inexperienced freshman who are going to principle themselves right out of office, and take the moderates with them.
The media keep saying, "Are the Dems going too far to the left?" Why? Because a handful of newbies out of over 200 Democratic Congress members are being vocal about their ideas? They're getting the media attention because they're young/female/ethnic/Muslim.., and part of the "blue wave" - that happened naturally - because the ruling party and the POTUS suck so bad.
BALANCE. It's a fact of life. It's why my pic is a yin-yang. It's why the earth orbits the sun, and why life evolved on it. It's why the political left is moving more to the left - because we have a far right president, and his party refuses to keep him in check. Soon, there will be no chance for middle ground, and this country will spiral out of control.
The newbies need to do less talking and more listening. Trump is the worst inexperienced newbie. There's no chance he'll shut up and try to learn. But AOC should realize that the media is going to exaggerate her message, which will fuel the Republican spin machine. Sure, be a "Democratic Socialist", but know that Republicans only hear "Socialist", and will use that to falsely claim that Dems all want to turn the US into Venezuela. And Omar needs to STFU. She isn't doing Democrats or Muslims any favors.
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Pelosi and like-minded Dems are too focused on the next election. They want to run against an embattled, wounded Trump. They want to fight the devil they know. Pelosi saying she opposes impeachment now is bad strategy and bad timing.
It's too close to the end of the Mueller probe, too close to the beginning of the House probes, and too far from the next election. Pelosi should have just said, "Let's wait for the facts". She's sick of cries of "Impeach him!" drowning out her agenda message. Tough shit. If they can't work their agenda and conduct oversight at the same time, they shouldn't be in office.
It's premature to assume they won't get 20 Senators to go along with removing Trump. If Mueller or SDNY uncover slam-dunk evidence, the Republicans will have to support Trump's removal. Most likely, though, there won't be slam-dunk proof, but really strong proof. Then, the Republicans won't want him impeached. They'll want to oust him in a primary - for the same reason they defend him now - they want to hold on to power. Then, the Dems won't get to run against the wounded devil they know.
Trump planted William Barr to water-down the Mueller report, which he will do with anything short of a smoking gun. Then, the choice for Republicans will be to primary or not. Then, the Dems will be running against a newly strengthened Trump or a new Republican who, compared to Trump, will look really good to swing voters. Either way, it puts Dems in a weakened position.
It ISN'T time to impeach yet. But instead of raising the bar on impeachment, Dems should be lowering it. They should be saying, "He's inches away. We're seeing lots of evidence".
That's because there IS lots of evidence, albeit circumstantial. Trump's people met with the Russians to trade dirt for sanction relief. Roger Stone bragged about communicating with the very hackers and disseminators of the DNC emails. 16 of Trump's people lied about over 100 Russian contacts. Trump's charity is being probed for what the NY AG called "a shocking pattern of illegality". He has been named an unindicted co-conspirator in an FEC violation that involved bank fraud. There's the inaugural committee, security clearance concerns, a pattern of obstruction, and MUCH more. Plus, he's an HABITUAL liar.
If Dems had balls, they'd point those things out every chance they get. Then, the media would report those statements rather than reporting Pelosi's signal that Dems don't have the stomach for impeachment, and are more interested in elections than justice.
"He's not worth it"?? He's too horrible to remove, and so bad that he's above the law?? She doesn't want to divide the already divided country? Congrats, Nancy. You divided your own party.
There's something worse than a messy impeachment - leaving a crooked, lying, incompetent President in office until an election that's still almost two years away. And since Trump refuses to deal with the Russians, he will let them help him win that election again.
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