Comments by "GilbertdeClare0704" (@GilbertdeClare0704) on "J-TV: Jewish Ideas. Global Relevance."
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@Rope_Adope That WAS actually my POINT, my friend. I DISAGREE with Dawkins for that EXACT REASON ! However I do NOT believe any single religion has it "Right" or has sole claim to THE Truth. That was WHY I used the term "The ALL" to try and describe the Divine spark, endowed BY "God" that we MAY RECOGNISE Him and LISTEN to His voice ? The capacity of "Man" in the very early days of Judaism, Christianity etc would have been OF that era and would "Hear" god to the level OF that era. Which we see still being held onto in Islamism, a 7th Century "understanding" of what they genuinely "hear". The "Tree" of each era HAS to fall and become BOTH the SEED AND the FERTILISER for the NEXT era of a DEEPER "hearing" and thereby a DEEPER understanding OF "God". "GOD" endowed us with that capacity to "KNOW".."HIM" at a deeper and deeper level AS each era "falls".
Without that initial JUDAIC "seed", YES, there would have been NO Christianity and therefore NO ENLIGHTENMENT which DEEPENED "scientific" KNOWLEDGE to REVEAL a MUCH deeper level of utter BEAUTY in "God's" ultimate GIFT..i'e the Double Helix and genetic coding ? Unknown to early 3,500bc Humans, but today KNOWN. AS', we KNOW "GOD" at a deeper level, and WILL know MORE of God BECAUSE of that cycle of "Fall" and REBIRTH ?
How else do you explain the SIGNIFICANCE of Christ's RESURRECTION ? ?
To put it simply my friend, was CHRIST who arose from the Dead, the SAME unchanged Christ as BEFORE Crucifixion, or a DEEPER Christ ? And that is where it starts touching into Eastern ideas such as The Phoenix in China ?
ps. I have never heard Dawkins say he, OR "science" knows EVERYTHING which WOULD indicate that closed minded "FIXED" mindset, but any "scientist" who would be so foolish KILLS any claim to scientific enquiry by such arrogance. As do ANY theologians who foolishly claim THEIR beliefs to be FIXED for all eternity. Once and forever and ONLY and you CLOSE your soul to the Divine
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@Rekam_01 There you go. Keep repeating the worn out Taqiyya narrative, habibi, at least YOU believe that nonsense.
70-80% of the Gazans are who voted Hamas IN TO POWER. And by Ghazi Hamad's declaration in December 2023, there ARE no "civilian" casualties as they ALL consider themselves combatants or Shahid ! !
Please explain WHY Israel should supply ANYTHING to a people who blatantly ABUSED their Independent State status and ATTACKED and massacred Israeli CIVILIANS, women, children and babies, and STILL refuse to release the HOSTAGES ? ? In your challenged brain, shouls Israel also be supplying hamas with AMMUNITION ? ? ?
Even in 2023, Ismael Haniyeh said proudly, “The blood of the children, the women, the elderly,…we NEED this blood so that it will ignite the spirit of revolution….” Dec. 2023
While HE lives in luxury in Qatar with a personal wealth of over $2.3 BILLION !
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@itaiharshoshanim-ib6kp do you mean me, sir ? If you're interested, check out The Strategic Memorandum Of The Muslim Brotherhood, available online. Then Cross reference it to Saul Alensky's "Rules For Radicals" (also online) and you can see the basic INTENT and approach that has been used ?
Then check Jennifer Freyd, a psychologist who has worked with abusers and used the acronym D.A.R.V.O. to describe the common steps an abuser employs. Those common steps are:
"D" - The abuser Denies the abuse ever took place
When confronted with evidence, the abuser then,
"A" - Attacks the person that was/is being abused (and/or the person's family and/or friends) for attempting to hold the abuser accountable for their actions.
finally the abuser claims that they were/are ACTUALLY the victim in the situation, thus,
"R" - Reversing the positions of
"V" - Victim and
"O" - Offender. It often involves not just playing the victim but also victim blaming.
A quote from Freyd :
"... I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable.
The offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense."
The sheer speed with which the "Protest marches" i.e., Hate Marches, were orchestrated to occur BEFORE Israel even "retaliated" shows how well planned it all was.
I've seen it time and again in my work, that as Freyd mentioned, the number of susceptible people who are inclined to believe a DARVO response, DECREASES once they understand the tactic.
Clearly SEEING who is using DARVO often proves to be difficult, until the abuser and the victim are clearly established. That is why we ALL have a MORAL duty to expose these LIES wherever we see them, Like Bataclan, Charlie Hebdo, October 7th, Annecy.
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@Kurzbraten 🤣🤣🤣🤣...Oh ISN'T the world so DESPERATELY in need of it. The EXTENT of that darkness prevalent at the moment HAS really shocked me, and in my work as a Psychotherapist I see how MUCH it is poisoning young minds. BUT, my father had volunteered before WW2, came through it, and always drilled into me, "NEVER get complacent ! Always stay alert to it being able to come back !" and I was more or less made to read Bertholdt Brecht ?
“If we could learn to look instead of gawking,
We'd see the horror in the heart of farce,
If only we could act instead of talking,
We wouldn't always end up on our arse.
This was the thing that nearly had us mastered;
Don't yet rejoice in his defeat, you men!
Although the world stood up and stopped the bastard,
The bitch that bore him is in heat again.”
― Bertolt Brecht, The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui
I am SO grateful my Dad opened MY eyes......But on that L'chaim note, I can't even HEAR the opening chords of Leonard Cohen without bursting out laughing, thinking, "Oh HERE we go !"
Exactly like in those little cafe/bars in Turkey when that "Whiny music" sparks up🤣🤣🤣
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@maltija1 I totally agree, and find it utterly shameful. My understanding of that is down to the nature of British Society at that time of the late 1800s onwards. Anti semitism was very common place especially amongst the upper classes, hence late 1930s "sympathy" for the naz*s reaching into REALLY high places. I believe there was a "Romantic" sympathy for the Arabs at the end of the 19th Century, among people such as Mark Twain, Ernest Hemingway et al in the USA, and the most famous in England, T.E. Lawrence, who seemed to see a "Freedom" amongst the Bedou that had been lost in Industrial societies ? (T.E.Lawrence wrote of that)
Then after rallying Arab Nationalists to overthrow the Ottomanns, BECAUSE of that closeness to the Arabs, but ONLY to conduct the Sykes Picot Agreement meetings in SECRET, Hussein ibn Ali, King of the Hejaz is completely betrayed at Britain going back on her word.
The McMahon - Hussein letters of 1915 ALSO included amongst the Arab Nationalist intenetions, a desire for an "Arab Caliphate of Islam" ?
Then up springs the PAN Arab Nationalist movement who want a SINGLE Arab Nation, and Haj Amin Al Husseni instigates the pogroms against Jews leading to the Hebron Massacre.
The British sympathetic to the Arab cause seem to wring their hands in guilt at the 1919 betrayal, and strive to make concessions to the Arabs, DESPITE the 1920 San Remo Agreement having been UNANIMOUSLY ratified by ALL 51 Nations of the League of Nations.
That had made it LEGAL to RETURN all of the British Mandate of "palestine AND Transjordan" to the Jewish people, even though the 1922 Mandate backtracked on Transjordan to appease the "betrayed" Hashemites.
The British White Papers of 1930 started to further BACKTRACK on that LEGAL recognition of Jewish RIGHT to return, leading to the DISGRACEFUL 1939 White Paper, which in the light of the looming War with Germany was trying to appease Haj Amin Al Husseini and the rise of his Pan Arab Nationalism, for fear he would side with the Naz*s. Which he did anyway.
In clause 14. of that 1939 White Paper, Jewish immigration was LIMITED to no more than 75,000 over 5 years to keep Jewish population to only 1/3, to 2/3 Arab ! ! !
This ran completely contrary to THE LEGAL MANDATE where “Palestine” had been INTENTIONALLY intended for JEWISH political control IN FULL RECOGNITION (Balfour Declaration) of the JEWISH Historic Connection to THEIR HOMELAND.
The 1939 White Paper was a complete abrogation of Britain’s Internationally Legal Commitment to the Jewish people and the Jewish State.
Under the terms of The Mandate , a binding instrument under International Law, ALL returning Jews were legally entitled to return. Yet thousands were deemed as “Illegal immigrants” under clause 14.(I) and interned in British built Internement camps.
LEGAL, SAFE return was BLOCKED, and at the most critical time possible...BEFORE THE HOLOCAUST ! ! !
At the end of the war, 6 years after the White Paper, less than HALF of the “allowed” 75,000 quota, had been admitted to THEIR Historic Homeland. A mere 36,000 immigration certificates had been issued ! ! !.
That 1919 "betrayal" by the Sykes Picot Agreement was why the Arabs stopped trusting the British, which also laid them open to the poisonous anti semitic / PRO Naz* propaganda of the PAN Arab Nationalists, which has embedded to this day. Haj Amin Al Husseini's nephew was Yasser Arafat who started using the erstwhile "Zionist" name of "Palestine" in 1964 ! !
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@Kurzbraten Hey, mein Freund, überhaupt keine Sorge. Ich habe es SEHR geschätzt, dass DU mich über meine eigenen Erinnerungen an diese „weinerliche türkische Musik“ in türkischen Cafés zum Lachen gebracht hast. Ich finde, dass ich heutzutage über solche Dinge wie diesen NPD-Kanzler lachen MUSS, sonst fange ich an zu toben … oder werde entmutigt. Hier in England haben wir eine ganze REGIERUNG aus NPD-Politikern, wie zum Beispiel unseren Außenminister, der Geld an die UNRWA und Ter*oristen spenden wird, um gut dazustehen …
Oh nein, ich habe das Bedürfnis, meine Leonard-Cohen-Musik aufzulegen...😳😳🥺😧😨😰😭😱😱...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Machs gut und bleib gesund, mein Freund, pass auf dich auf, die aller besten gluckwünsche für dich 😊
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