Comments by "" (@BharatThatIsIndia) on "DEI Vs merit: ideological fight behind ouster of Harvard’s Claudine Gay. India quota debate parallel" video.

  1. 19:10 But Shekhar ji, you missed to mention that India has reservation for upper caste also. And in most state( except Utrakhand or Himachal) Upper Caste in India now, has more reservation in proportion to der population than others. For example, In Bihar 66% of upper caste got reservation.(15% of total population is getting 10% of total population). We should start including this EWS is a caste based reservation. And if anyone disagree, for them I just have one simple question. I belong to so called OBC caste group and I was against caste based reservation before 2019, mainly OBC reservation. Hence I didn't take this reservation. Now, can I get EWS reservation if I satisfy all the economic parameters of EWS?
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  2.  @SMJ24111  😂😂 If merit matters then why EWS? By the way, Kill, loot , destroy and take away almost all the resources, capture everything available and leave the little bit resources for thousands of years and then after 75 years of reservation, complain about the reservation and talk about merit. Babua, Merit shines in the proper environment. Obviously der will be few exceptions but the general rule is, you need a better environment, opportunity and resources growing up.
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  3.  @varoonnone7159  😂😂😂 So make people slaves for 1000s of years, take all the resources from them, devoid them of everything for 1000s of years and then after some 50-60 years ask them to compete on merit? Wow. What an argument? Merit only shines in the provided environment. Der can be few exceptions but the general rule is that only. If you don't understand this simple thing, I will suggest you to read, visit and see how real life works.
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  4.  @Kim-ej2xm  I am glad that you said that "Creamy layer is not working as Tahseeldar provides certificate to everyone". So der should be some solution for this and this part of OBC reservation can be improved. However, the whole idea of EWS reservation is on basis of this certificate and hence it is not working and it should be abolished. Do you agree?
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  5.  @sumitsingh2349  Do you even understand the concept of reservation? Do you even understand how the EWS is awarded? Do you know why SC/ST are not able to get that many marks? Talent doesn't mean anything (in almost all cases, except a few exceptions). Elon Musk cannot happen in India. A child who went to government school where no one taught anything to him cannot be compared with a private school going child. Also, if you are socially backward, you cannot compete. Like, In 1960, very few people were able to pass class 10 exams? Do you think at that time the Upper caste or OBC were not talented enough to make it to class 10?
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  6.  @sumitsingh2349  Yes, OBC is general and I was of the same view that OBC reservation should not exists. I have never taken this bcz of my belief . My upper Caste friends or u tube comments were so supportive of me. But then 2019 happened. EWS happened and I saw the reaction of those so called reservation Virodhi friends. EWS is nothing but a caste based reservation. They have added Christian or muslims for the sake of it. I understood in 2019 that I was a fool. However I still don't take reservations because I will not be a hypocrite bcz others are. Now tske example of Bihar. Total 15% Upper Caste (Including Muslim upper Caste). 10% of total seats are reserved for them. Meaning 66% of upper caste has reservation in EWS in Bihar. Karnataka BJP government wss not able to allocate 10% reservation for upper caste in der state as they don't have that many. Take another example, how narrative are set. Mayawati made a very good park, called Ambedkar park in Lucknow. Till 2020 I was thinking that it was a waste of money. But then I went der during lockdown (when norms were relaxed). It is fabulous. Now compare the media coverage of her making this park in 2k crore to that of Modi making Sardar Statue or Cricket stadium named after Modi in Gujrat. If you don't understand these things then I will simply say that you are the past version of me, who ignored these things which indicates who is controlling the narrative and until u think deep, you will be swayed by those narratives.
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  7. Every Right wing in every country, wants to remove all kind of affirmative action. But they will ignore the fact that the environment available to racially different people (lower caste in case of India) is way more less than what racially dominant group (dominant caste in case of India)gets. Also they will not provide the basis equality of resources from the beginning to these groups of people.
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  8.  @padmakumarvadhyar7656  yeah, you are a load of that.
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  9.  @Victor-y9g1w  First of all read and understand what is said. I know you are an idiot but before writing anything, read and understand mr fool. It is not your WhatsApp group or your idiotic castist friends group. Just Basic maths idiot. 1st Step- Lets say, the population of Bihar is 100. As per caste survey der are 15% upper caste (including muslims upper caste). Meaning 15. 2nd Step - Now take 100 as overall for calculating reservation. EWS gives 10% overall reservation. So it means, 10 reservations of all 100 available seats. Final step- From the 1st step, we got 15 upper caste people and from second we got 10 seats reserved for them 10 seats reserved for 15 people. That is 2/3 i.e. 66.67%.
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  10.  @ytskt  Yes,even without EWS they have highest proportion of the pie and that bcz of historical reasons. They didn't need a reservation. Obviously, der are many Upper caste people who are poor. 25% Rajpoot in Bihar are poor. But they need support and not reservation. Your first point is very dangerous. Caste based hierarchy is very dangerous and it has created this problem. Caste should not be der. For true harmony in India, 1. Upper caste must accept that they have done many atrocities on lower castes in past. 2. Muslims should accept that during der rule they have done atrocities on Hindus. Reservation is needed until we are able to provide equal opportunity to all Indians since birth.
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  11.  @Altman.sam1 😂😂😂 Your argument is really flawed and is just a way to push the ball everywhere. First of all, OBC might have been doing atrocities to Dalit. But they have not started it. They have not given it the social validations. It was done by Upper caste and it was done from the beginning. Some strong OBC might have followed it and that too after 1990. Even the strongest of OBC today, i.e. Yadav, didn't have power before 1990. Whatever they have done before that was, by just following what Upper caste has decided and they were also suppressed by Upper caste. So the bucks starts at Upper caste. Once they do it, everything will be solved. And after that, you can demand others to follow that. Untill then, If you cannot understand this simple thing, or you cannot follow this simple logic, Keep ur mouth shut.
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  12.  @sahilmeena-wy2gf  😂😂😂 You OBC are doing most of the attrocities? Do you even have a capacity to understand things or u r superfluous? So OBC was so powerful that they decided everything and they perpetuated this untouchability? They have decided to not allow you into temples? Are you a fool or what? Do you even know things or r you just politically motivated? Der is no doubt that OBC, who were powerful, done what Upper caste has done. But they were following the norms set by upper caste. If u don't understand this simple fact, I don't know what to say. Even In SC, Jatav doesn't touch Paasi. So does it mean that JAATAV are doing atrocities on Paasi? They are doing what is fed to them for thousands of years. Have you ever gone to a village dominated by upper castes? The OBC's der cannot even speak in front of them, even the Yadav. Do u know what was happening before 1990 in UP,Bihar with OBC? Obviously Dalits were treated way worse than OBC. Just one question? Have you ever lived in a village or a village where upper caste numbers are high? Or do you live in a city?
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  13. So I can get an EWS reservation? Just Google it. Read before commenting.
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  14.  @napoleon3026  😂😂 I don't know how anyone can be so idiot and still comment. How are you doing this? Do you see data and fact or just Vomit here like ut WhatsApp chat? First of all, Bihar is not a state of Yadav only. By the way which government report? Who has published that report? And if you read the same caste census, you will know that Yadav's are in der proportion of government jobs as per der population. They are not even 1% more than der population proportion. So the whole idea of having the biggest beneficiary is completely wrong or you can say that even after taking so much benefit they are still reaching the basic proportion of jobs as per der population. So reservation should be increased so that other castes can take advantage of that. What about those who are getting 66% of reservation in proportion to der population in Bihar? The so called upper caste and they have way more percentage of jobs in proportion to der population. Still dy are getting 10% reservation (66% reservation in proportion of der population). Do you have to say anything about that?
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  15.  @knots1975   About 66%. Check my comments and do simple maths, if you can do that. Second, you captured everything for 2000 years and got fed up in 75 years only? And that too of SC/ST. OBC reservation is only 30 years old. So like your maths, your data analysis is also weak. About the constitution, Reservation is in the constitution only.
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  16.  @Kim-ej2xm  Again you are talking about few cases That's why the Creamy layer concept is present. And if you know those people, complain against them for misusing the reservation. The problem with people like you is, you don't understand bigger arguments and come to a few examples. What is your thoughts about EWS reservation in Bihar? Der are only 15% upper caste in Bihar and they will get 10% of total reservations. So meaning that 66%of them are getting reservations. Do you think 66% of upper caste in Bihar are poor? So don't give me that bullshit argument of "some OBC guys have reservations, even if they have money and power".
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  17.  @Kim-ej2xm  Yes I agree to this argument but der can be some caviate to this. Like some of Rajputs are in obc in Gujrat. This is bcz of some local scenarios and when OBC reservation was provided they were not doing well or were marginalized as compared to other dominant caste in Gujarat. So if it is done based on proper survey, this is fine. However, "Modi" caste was added in 1999 and Modi's are in better condition. So it should not be part of OBC. These things matter and when anycaste is added to obc category, der must be a thorough investigation. But after giving a reservation to Upper caste, this whole argument has gone for a toss. People don't understand that Reservation is not GAREEBI HATAO YOJANA. It is to improve social status which was reduced due to historical injustices.
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