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Comments by "" (@BharatThatIsIndia) on "Key takeaways from RSS chief Bhagwat speech on polls, arrogance, Modi govt, Manipur, caste, religion" video.
According to me, Few possibilities, which might be the reason for Mohan Bhagwat speech - 1. RSS might be trying to save its face from the UP debacle. 2. RSS understood the problem and is now trying to course correct the BJP as a parent organisation. 3. RSS is fed up with Modi and the cult which he wanted to create. The "not biological", "Parmatma ne Bheja hai" was way over the top for an organisation which doesn't believe in individual worshipping. RSS doesn't believe in Individual becoming more important than der Organisation. So this speech. 4. Manipur is a big problem and the way Modi handled it, RSS is not ok with it. RSS is anything but Anti India. They care about integrity of India. May be der divisive idea is not good for India but still they are not anti India. 5. Very less chance but this overdoing of Hindu Muslim has created so much divide within India that RSS is worried. They don't want to make India like Pakistan and hence this speech. This is my view. I will wait for others views on these points or der own views.
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@nomulahemanth UP debacle was given. Actually BJP has done badly in top 5 Indian states UP, Maharashtra, WB, Bihar and Tamilnadu. Orissa, Chhattisgarh and MP had actually saved Modi, it is not otherway around.
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@kumar.193 I don't agree with RSS. But you have to be fair when judging them as an organisation. RSS Sarsanghchalk doesn't speak frequently. Obviously they cannot speak publicly in the middle of an election. It will be seen meddling in the election and whatever be the result, RSS will not be the beneficiary. He spoke in Vijaya Dashami last time and that speech was also good. I am sure they would have shared these concerns internally with the BJP during elections.
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@akhileshp6419 Arrey yaar, why we want to compare ourselves with Pakistan? Do you want India to be like Pakistan? They are in this mess bcz of that only. At least compare with Indonesia. About OBC Reservation for Muslims - This is present in the Mandal Commission recommendation. OBC means - Other Backward Categories, not caste. So some muslims groups comes under that. And the reservation is already der for last 25 -30 years. Congress didn't divide India, Jinnah did. Hindu Mahasabha formed governments with Muslim League. Check history. Giving some benifits to few muslim clerics is not appeasement of Muslims but of selected few. In any good democracy, Minorities had some special privileges. So Baqf boards have control over that. It was created by the British and hence it is a legacy. Common muslims are not getting benifits of that and rich muslims along with clerics are selling those lands. What will you do by controlling Temples? Same will happen. Roght now temples are better regulated and it is generating revenues. Else all the money would have gone to few pockets, like it is happening to Muslims. Muslims should start demanding the government to have control of Mosque.
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@AmalTan Its ok. We don't have to agree on everything. And der is no fun if everyone agrees on everything.
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@soundar4270 First of all, it is INDIA(I.N.D.I.A) alliance. That's the whole point. "Pratipaksh" and not "Virodhi". Atleast learn from Mohan Bhagwat. So Modi ji was talking about the NDA in the whole election? Wow. Orissa Loksabha was expected (at least an increase in number for BJP). Vidhansabha was unexpected. So focus babua. Karnataka, was expected like this or even less seats for Congress. So I did not mention this. Bihar, JDU, LJP did better than expected and not BJP. Actually it has done way worst than expected. In the top 5 states i.e. UP, Maharashtra, WB, Bihar, Tamilnadu, it is 2nd in first 4 and in last one it doesn't have a single seat. These states has 249 seats. So at least do analysis properly.
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@pardeeptandon I mentioned this to one of the comments response. RSS was before Modi and it will be der way after he is gone. RSS core belief is Organisation. They don't believe in Individual worshipping. They were tolerating Modi but now I don't think they will allow this. And for your information, RSS cannot be hijacked by any one person, even if that person is Modi.
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@GreenOrangeBlueWhite Nope. I am not an insider of RSS. I was thinking to go to RSS Shakha in 2012-13 but luckily didn't go der. Actually, I don't agree with RSS vision of India since 2017. But I don't criticize people/organisation for the sake of it. I don't think any organisation whicj is working for public is completely good or bad. They have der idea of India. i can agree or disagree but it doesn't mean that they are less Indian than me. That's what I like about Mohan Bhagwat speech. He talked sensibly. Modi has made this country like, if you don't agree with Modi ji, then you are anti national. This is bad for India.
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@adityaakshay1 Modi ka magic is der. It adds up with RSS support. However, Modi ka magic is nothing but "Media not asking questions." If they will ask questions, this magic would have disappeared in 2015 only.
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@AmitKumarAlphaX achchha hai. Par jab sarcastic ho rahe ho to Sindh ko include nahin karna tha. Hindu Mahasabha aur Sindh ka government, Pakistan ka resolution, etc. Also, see how Muslim league won the elections. Who voted for them. And those who voted for them, almost all of them have moved to Pakistan. Don't skip the pages of history. Der was one person called "Naushera ka Sher". Find out about him. He was promised to get the Pakistan military top post by Jinnah. Yes, der are a few people like Daud Ibrahim but der are millions in the same community who will kill Doud happily.
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@akhileshp6419 BJP is not a reaction for Left liberals politics. Jan Sangh was created earlier. Yesterday, I was checking India today and since independence, the highest %age of Muslims MO is 9% and almost always it is less than 6%. This is Appeasement? Do you even understand the Meaning of this word? Just check the kist of massacres of muslims during the Congress era and you will Understand, if you will try.
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@pardeeptandon I was talking about top 5 biggest State. Obviously they lost many seats in the North East and also they didn't even fight elections in Kashmir valley. That was cowardly.
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@sumeersaxena1062 Yes, But I was talking about the BJP and not NDA. Bihar was saved bcz of JDU+ Chirag. AP was Naidu only. BJP is almost nothing in AP.
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@mathurhp Yeah, you can say that. And that is the beauty of a democracy. A parent organisation finds it difficult to criticize der own, unless der is a strong opposition.
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@adityaakshay1 On RSS didn't campaign for BJP in UP - I don't think so. RSS does that but they might have withdrawn from the campaign at the last moment when they saw the people's mood. Also they might not have campaigned for those coming to BJP from other parties. I agree with ur other points. An ideological organisation doesn't like to dilute its ideology for the sake of anything. They can tactically move here and der, but the basic core remains the same. Adding Ashok Chauhan, Ajit Pawar, and der Jaunpur candidate Kripashankar Singh was the worst kind of politics.
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@soundar4270 Ok. See the exit poll. See any journalist view. See the people's comments during the last assembly elections. They were saying that they will vote for Modi in the central election. Congress has expected max 10 seats in Karnataka and 10-11 seats in Telangana. Only Bus tickets or 5kg Grains don't decide elections. But maybe you have a different source.
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@akhileshp6419 Sidelineing Aadityanath seems to be Shah idea. In any succession war after Modi, Adityanath will beat Shah any day. Shah doesn't control any vote. Aadityanath has his own popularity. I don't think Shah can even win the Gujarat election without Modi. He can be a good strategist but not a leader.
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@Wcheqkxieqqceeqaewruwa 😂😂😂 Kya baat hai. Modi ji's biography will be called " My Country Gujrat".
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@GreenOrangeBlueWhite I left twitter in 2020 and could understand that der are only few people who are like this. Others are normal human beings, even if they are voting for the BJP or Owaisi.
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@AlorSharma 👍
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@dilippatwa6574 Is the critisism wrong? Are those points not correct? Focus on these rather than imaginary motives. And for your information, BJP/Modi ot anyone for that matter is not above criticism. So focus on points raised and have ur points if you don't agree with points by anyone.
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@Thewiseone209 Here we are talking about politics in general. So the top 5 states mean, those states with the most number of Parliament seats. 1. UP(80) - BJP#2 2. Maharashtra (48) - BJP#2 3. West Bengal (42) - BJP#2 4. Bihar(40) - BJP#2(Nitish fought less seats) 5. Tamilnadu (39) BJP No Seats
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@factspk373 It is an organisation which can work peacefully in country as per the constitution. India is a diverse country, and hence every "Thought process" can organise themselves in a peaceful manner. It is not mandatory but people who want to go der, why should they be stopped? They also have rights as per the constitution itself.
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@surendr3645 Congress gets votes from Hindus and Muslims. BJP mostly gets no votes from Muslims. BJP leaders spee venom against muslims and they use Ram Navami to spread these, is utter disrespect for our Ram and hence they lost Ayodhya. Atleast accept what BJP does. I am not saying congress has never done communal politics. It has done in the past and that too Hindu Communal politics. But today it is not doing that.
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@surendr3645 😂😂😂 Bhai, kam dekha kar Sudheer, Arnab, Anjana ko.. By the way DMK said this. They said this in Tamilnadu. The word ", Sanatan Dharma" has different meanings in Tamilnadu. Khair.. chal ye bata to Bhagwan Shivji ke beton me, Ganesh ji bade bhai the ya Karthik ji?
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@radhakrishnan3068 Modi speeches were of like a "Rioters", "hate mongerers" and of a goon. But we should not get overjoyed by RSS chief statements too. After all Modi is from that group only and the most successful one. You see, every leader of Right wing or ultra left wing must be far right or left respectively than der predicessors, else they will not be accepted by der own people. Hence the next in line from Modi will be way worse than him. This is given. This is the curse of being Right or ukta left.
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@radhakrishnan3068 Modi speeches were of like a "Rio ters", "ha_te mon gerers" and of a goon. But we should not get overjoyed by RSS chief statements too. After all Modi is from that group only and the most successful one. You see, every leader of Right wing or ultra left wing must be far right or left respectively than der predicessors, else they will not be accepted by der own people. Hence the next in line from Modi will be way worse than him. This is given. This is the curse of being Right or ulta left.
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@Vidura_stoic Yes, they would not have said anything if Modi had got 280 seats. And you should not be surprised by that. RSS never speaks against powerful forces. They never did a single March/dharna against British on 22 years from 1925 to 1947.
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@Geextech Nope. We can accuse RSS of anything but individual worship. RSS doesn't believe in that. Yes, they support Modi, yes Modi is important for them, yes Bhagwat is a hypocrite like any other right wing, etc, but RSS doesn't like this "Avatar" image Modi was creating for himself. And like any Political Right wing or Ultra left wing, RSS and Bhagwat are anti constitution.
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