Comments by "Jellybean" (@j377yb33n) on "How Ireland's newest political parties responding to immigration issues | euronews 🇬🇧" video.

  1. The editorial quality on this is shocking, lads, do your research.
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  2. Far right economic and social policies got us into this mess, just the definition of far right has shifted even more extreme in the last decade since the recession.
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  3. Aye, i'm sure this isn't a smokescreen account by britain first
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  4. And who were you voting for the last 12 years?
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  5. Ahh, voting for more of the same but with an easy scapegoat! hope ye enjoy parties that are more chummy with unionists and britain first than actual irish people.
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  6. Aye, and the issue with services not being up to scratch is entirely due to governmental policy and party philosophy over the last decade and a bit, not immigrants.
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  7.  @splendiferousfinch2656  Aye, and mass deportations will both fly in the face of the struggles our countrymen faced for centuries, decimate our reputation and economy, and will not solve the root cause of the issue. How about you stop importing talking points from britain first that were first used to slander the irish?
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  8.  @sb8163  and I am from Ireland, and I can say you're buying into scapegoat bait instead of looking at the root of the issues.
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  9.  @Occident.  "ethno gael nationalism" is an oxymoron by definition, where are you from?
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  10.  @Occident.  american?
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  11. It's not like Micheal Leahy of the freedom party wasn't just caught leasing out an air bnb in a rent pressure zone, i'm sure he'd love to lower property values
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  12.  @robot538  what kind of Irish is that now, is it because I'm not subservient or not from the pale? I'm 30.
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  13.  @MartinMartinm  ahh lovely, forced labour or genocide. Great minds out here tonight
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  14. that's what you get with right wing economic and social policies.
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  15.  @covfefe1787  what kind of yankeedoodlewankery are you talking about?
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  16.  @RazorMouth  if they're claiming asylum, they're an asylum seeker and go through our direct provision system which will assess their case. In many cases, some people will buy forged documents to travel if they're at risk of being persecuted when identified in their own country.
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  17.  @harrycallaghan3057  I take it as seeing a tough man not interested in actual change but looking for an easy avenue to direct his anger.
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  18.  @MacToirdealbhaigh  yeah that wasn't what was being said about Polish people 20 years ago, or what a friend from Poland was abused with a few weeks back in Dublin. Racism doesn't handle well with exceptions, only people with a short memory.
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  19.  @FLYINGTHOR  what "left wing" policies do you mean?
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  20.  @Cofarl  these lads are desperate to be the victim no matter what
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  21.  @DAITHIEIRE  one day old account, and trying really hard to seem Irish. Definitely not an astroturf
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  22.  @jijifo8325  No it doesn't, but a scapegoat measure won't resolve the crisis.
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  23. Where are you from?
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  24.  @beanHole-ek3ib  once again, you're talking with the same rhetoric as a British tory politician that sided with apartheid south Africa and then joined the orange order because he couldn't stand the Irish. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it
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  25.  @sb8163  So you've got more of a problem with populism, than the actual policies? The core difference between you and me then is that I want people regardless of class to be treated with dignity, not with the dehumanising tone you've got.
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  26.  @MacToirdealbhaigh  weaponised leprechauns or something
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  27.  @beanHole-ek3ib  10 years ago, Enda Kenny pressed on a housing report, stated that houses can't be built overnight. For over 10 years fine Gael has been in a majority position in government, and in that time we've had record low new social housing built, proxy anti homeless policies and a squandered economic boom. Immigration is not helping the crisis at hand, but when the country is too expensive for trades workers needed to solve the crisis to live in, and government policy was to exacerbate the looming crisis for the sake of profit, giving fg and their thatcherite economic policies a free pass in exchange for an easy scapegoat won't help things either.
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  28. and voting NP won't give you any change, you're talking like you think our voting system is the british first past the post.
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  29.  @mildlydispleased3221  aye, but these lads would happily vote for the same socio-economic policies as fine Gael, so no social housing and low corporate tax rates, just they want an easy scapegoat instead of concrete change because that scares them.
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  30.  @robot538  Oh i'm sorry, do you have something constructive to say or are you that sensitive that you need to lash out at the slightest poke at something you align with?
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  31. There has been a disproportionate focus on single men coming over, but nearly the same amount of single women, and families. The media reporting on it is trying to scare you for more engagement.
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  32.  @splendiferousfinch2656  How? do you expect only women or children to try escape a dangerous country? split the families up?
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  33.  @beanHole-ek3ib  Here's the problem with that "million people" statistic - that'll include the families of those who immigrated to britain or america or australia in decades past, like my own cousins. The influx of people isn't massively different from the amount leaving, or from birth rates, it's a trumped up figure that in isolation doesn't mean much but a scary number. You're treating that above the socio-economic policies that caused the issue, while ignoring them in favour of focusing on immigration. It's circular logic. You're better off looking at the amount of trades people that have left ireland, or even just left the trades, as that's going to be a core problem in however we're going to recover from this mess.
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  34. Aye, so the British can have a controlling hand over us again
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  35.  @munch762  Who's "we"?
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  36.  @blakewalker281  depends, usually after dad calls me over to rail him. He's desperate to have a kid he'll actually love
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  37.  @munch762  good lord you're conceited.
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  38. and who do you reckon that would be?
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  39. Lad, the irish people party is working off a wix template, not only an israeli company, but also has a form to request gardening services. I'm in cork, seen their posters up but with no candidates. they're absolutely a front, same with the others.
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  40. Is that why all the far right parties have been pictured shoulder to shoulder with paratroopers or members of British nationalist parties?
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  41.  @T1971-w4c  oh, the branch of ukip with a leader chummy with the unionists in the north? Yeah that's very pro ireland
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  42. They're not homes, it's emergency accommodation. There were protests over 10 years ago that the asylum system wasn't up to scratch, but today the same finger pointing at immigrants causing trouble was pointed at homeless people 10 years ago from the same right wing nimbys
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  43.  @munch762  am I? In what way?
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  44.  @almon799  grand, vote for a party that's basically fine Gael from the 90's, just with the rhetoric of Britain first or forza italia. I'm sure kildare village wannabe fascism will result in change
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  45.  @almon799  aye, but if you're complaining about wanting change with your vote, and you're giving it to a party that's been voting AGAINST change the last decade, you've not been paying attention much.
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  46. Aye, the 1% that voted for the freedom and national party
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  47.  @sb8163  aiight, what would you happily vote for? What policies?
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  48.  @columboyle527  that is also the indo, the group that owns a bunch of small regional papers and radio stations and still publishes David Quinn. They've got a vested interest people think things can change
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  49.  @sb8163  Right, i think the fundamental difference between us then is that I want to treat people, especially those from the working class and those fleeing horrible situations with respect? Whereas you're totally fine with shite economic policies by populist parties so long as they're honest about scapegoating to distract from the core of issues. You're treating the referendum results as some sort of paltry victory, like it's american party poltiics, and then getting frustrated a shifting political maneuvering over the actual policies they have. Where actually are you from?
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  50.  @munch762  ah here, just because I'm lazy on my tea break doesn't make me paid. You'd be better off asking the amount of month or year old accounts that swarmed in out of nowhere. And what about you?
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  51.  @paulclosed6690  Not triggered, but good lulz nontheless
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  52.  @sb8163  don't own on, i'm not from blackrock
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  53.  @sb8163  you're a political contrarian, from what you've lead me to believe. You don't really care about policies or people, just whatever small party scapegoat you can throw your weight behind and if a bigger party shifts to align to you, you call them posers. a hipster.
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  54.  @ajc5479  it's the same racism, just with a different scapegoat
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  55.  @sb8163  3rd time trying to post this - how would you know none of mine haven't been removed?
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  56.  @mildlydispleased3221  he's going to respond with something like "well us Irish didn't come looking for handouts, we had to work for a living!" or some kind of rose tinted nonsense, seen it plenty of times before.
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  57.  @beanHole-ek3ib  why do you lot always fall back to a state that was under apartheid for 100 years and did nothing to really correct that system, and then imply that others want infinite migration? Lad, you already control the debate on this, don't make a fool of yourself.
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  58.  @beanHole-ek3ib  so you'd be supportive of Britain or Australia if they had stopped Irish people from immigtating there in decades past?
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  59.  @beanHole-ek3ib  so should Britain, Australia and the Americas banned Irish immigrants?
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  60.  @beanHole-ek3ib  Would you have supported immigration bans on irish people to Australia, britain, america in decades past, seeing as we emmigrated en masse?
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  61.  @beanHole-ek3ib  there's a fundamental difference between one group coming to a land and forcibly colonising it - like the plantations in America and ulster and Australia, and people coming to a country to seek refuge from an unsafe situation or to make a better life, like so many Irish people did in the past. Did we destroy America or the UK?
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  62. Isn't that an insult though?
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  63.  @MMM-28-28  Ireland, grew up in sligo.
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  64. Don't lump people in with empathy in with you and your nonsense
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  65. Exactly
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  66.  @beanHole-ek3ib  Okay, so you're just pushing the argument that enoch powell had about immigrants like us and the windrush generation in the 1960's before he joined up with the orange order.
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  67.  @tiglishnobody8750  well, it would have also allowed the government to absolve itself from providing adequate social services and protection within the constitution with the way it was worded.
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  68.  @km-su4jk  Where did i say those words?
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  69.  @Jack-qr2iy  The same shite talked about refugees here by these chancers were not only used by british nationalist groups against us when we weren't an acceptable immigrant minority, but now these same parties are often shoulder to shoulder with the same thugs.
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  70.  @km-su4jk  And what do you think that means? or is that a lazy cop out he-said, she-said type of london bollocks.
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  71.  @km-su4jk  where have I used critical race theory, and what does that have to do with what you're talking about? This is some absolute buzzword whataboutism
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  72.  @beanHole-ek3ib  yeah, it's a decade of socio-economic policies that these "new parties" don't fundamentally differ from. The scapegoating of migrants and refugees as the core of the issue is the same thing from 10 years ago when fg blamed homeless people for an increase in drug related crime.
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  73.  @covfefe1787  was Margaret Thatcher left wing?
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  74.  @covfefe1787  so you're not only contradicting yourself now, but you're also judging the government on American standards, and ignoring the reasons people voted against the care reform referendum?
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  75.  @Cyclone546  who told you to blame Soros?
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  76.  @patcoughlan5638  it's also a local election. This isn't for national policies, this is for community centers and fixing potholes and bridges, something most of the hard right nationalist planter parties didn't understand
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  77. That's the kind of language used by brits that supported the paratroopers in Northern Ireland.
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  78.  @FLYINGTHOR  what left wing policies are you talking about? closing hospitals, barely keeping the dole up with cost of living after trying to get people to rat their neighbours out on it, idealising thatcher while looking down on the working class? I bet you thought corbyn would be like stalin or something
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  79. Aye, for the landlords. but I'm guessing you were more wanting to have that as a closeted racist remark that had the same tone as anti homeless nimby's from 10 years ago
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  80.  @FLYINGTHOR  yes, the left wing policies of barely investing in social supports, not building social housing and idealising thatcher. I bet you actually thought corbyn was some sort of radical communist
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  81.  @FLYINGTHOR  Ah yes, the far left policies of thatcher idealism and social service disinvestment.
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  82. Are you Irish?
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  83.  @stephenoneill2844  It's because we actually run america and the NWO, look at all the amount of irish descendants in positions of power
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  84.  @Cyclone546  it's kinda sad how often that gets thrown around by people who don't have a point
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  85.  @shadowBanned2023  that was a TV show about airport security. You're thinking of the privately owned, very corrupt refugee processing facilities that Australia contracts out in papue new Guinea, they've got an abhorrent human rights record, actually cost the aussie tax payers more, and when they tried to sell the tories in the UK on it 12 ish years ago, they turned it down and called it fascist. If you really want to beat the un 2030 goals, form unions, include immigrants, the goal is to drive down wages by turning the working class against itself.
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  86.  @MikeyJMJ  aye, we'll just continue increasing the out group without solving the core philosophical issue. Fascist brain rot.
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  87.  @munch762  jesus you're more demanding than my ex, surely you're not offended by me quoting statistics from the cso?
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