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Comments by "Neil of Longbeck" (@neiloflongbeck5705) on "Britain's Celtic languages explained" video.
The traditional counting system used in the Yorkshire Dales and parts of Lincolnshire and County Durham is a base 20 system based on the Brythonic Celtic language.
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@meretes.lintrup4684 in Europe I wouldn't be surprised if the vigesimal or Base-20 counting systems all come from the same pre-Celtic Indo-European language but such systems also evolved independently in Africa (with the Yoruba), with the Mayans and Aztecs in Mesoamerica, and with New Zealand's Māoris. Even English has a Base-20 history. The Gettysburg Address starts off with "four score and seven years ago". But I'm not certain if that isn't due to the Norman Conquest of 1066.
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@imogenveneear1935 yes, different words in different dales and areas.
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@alexjradcliffe also the subject of a Jake Thackeray song.
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@meadow-maker the mark was made to indicate a count of 20 which is indicative of a Base-20 counting system. In Old French 32 was written as vint et douz (ie 30+12) 50 was dous vinz et dix (ie two twenties plus 10). Norman French was influenced by Old French and modern English is substantially based on Norman French rather than Anglo-Saxon.
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@meadow-maker apologies for being presumptive about your comments. But the question remains why was the scoring of the tally stick was done at 20 sheep and not 10 if society as a whole was using a Base-10 counting system? The remaining Celts in the Anglo-Saxon areas would have had to learn the language of their new overlords just as the Anglo-Saxons did after 1066.
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@meadow-maker if you want to be pedantic and patronising make sure you don't make mistakes - 20 shilling in the old Pound. And you sure that in old English we used the same counting system?
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@RobertScott-pp6gj and guess who were the people working the land and looking after the livestock for the Anglo-Saxon overlords? Why, those Brythonic speaking Britons. Whilst many Angles, Saxons and Jutes came to post-Roman Britain, there was only enough of them to form the new ruling class and the Britons who did not flee West and surrendered to the invaders went on with their lives but with new rulers. The same happened after 1066, and with nearly every country the UK took as a colony. This is why the animal retained the Anglo-Saxon name, but the meat took a Norman French one.
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