Comments by "Marc Joly" (@emjizone) on "FINALLY! Putin READY TO TALK. Russia to PROVIDE SECURITY GUARANTEES. Ukraine ALLOWED TO JOIN NATO" video.
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9:34 Putin is making a enormous mistakes here:
1. He still believes that NATO members want Ukraine to join NATO to expand it. Well, no!
They aren't against it, if it can bring peace. But they aren't asking for it either, especially if they think it will not bring peace and help mad conquerors' plans.
NATO is confident in its capability to defend itself with or without Ukraine , especially against Russia. So NATO members will never push Ukraine to negotiate a spoliation by Russia only to become the direct target of Russia and be responsible for both the security of Ukraine and Russian crimes.
Territorial defense is precisely the point of NATO. It's not going to help Russia deny it. Duh.
The only motivation for NATO members to see Ukraine joining NATO is to deter any mad bloody conquerors targeting it and to return to sane business in peace that would maximise the profits for all. For this deterrent to be believable, it can't be based on the defeat and political division of its new members. So, if deadly threat don't deter Russia from aggressing neighbors and illegally keeping control of conquered territories (including for example Georgia, Kazakhstan, etc…) there is no incentive for NATO members to include Ukraine: they'd much better form a conventional international defense coalition against В.В.Пу́тин with all the nations threatened by this individual В.В.Пу́тин in particular, without the restrictive rules of NATO membership. This coalition could even include Russians who are fed up to suicide in support of his very personal conquest.
2. He still believes that Ukrainians want to join NATO for reasons other than peace. But there can be no peace with national territory occupied by genocidal madmen!
The Ukrainian army come to liberate territory and family members. They aren't going to sacrifice their family members and territory to get a protection they can get without such terrible sacrifice. Strange that В.В.Пу́тин can't understand family bonds, isn't it?
Ukrainian wanted to join NATO not to limit their defeat, not because they want more legal constraints, but to prevent illegal invasion and enjoy what is theirs.
If it doesn't solve this, if joining NATO doesn't keep hostile armies out of the national territory, there is no reason for joining NATO.
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