Comments by "Golag Is watching you" (@golagiswatchingyou2966) on "Why are People Unhappy in the Modern World?" video.
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22:55 incels are not a political movement and it's not centered around ''not getting laid'' the word Incel even stands for ''involuntary celibate'' meaning these are most often if not exclusively men, probably in their 18-30's and have had little to no positive feedback from both romantic but also friendship based relationships, from talking to some of them, most seem to come from broken homes, mostly raised by their mothers who were overprotective of them and did not prepare them for the world and how to improve themselves to gain potential mates or they have certain disabilities like autism or unattractive traits that they can't change or accept of themselves which in a world like this one that constantly demands perfection and competition while offering no clear way or comfort to actually reach anything close to that ideal.
Incels are societies lost generation, forgotten, hated and despised, all they realy have is resentment and suffering without something like Christianity, familly or romance to guide them, if any incels or doomers reads this, the most important trait you should focus on is self improvement, not compare yourself to others and find some form of religion or ideology that gives you a strong sense of meaning in this world and view suffering as a test to overcome, it won't solve everything but at least you might get a better future.
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if im honest, I truly think if society was more free and people were allowed to express themselves without constant risk of it backfiring on them through the media, the government, society or big tech then it would quickly evolve into a new structured ideology of both extreme left and extreme right views and seek to controle and purge others who would seek to undermine and attack them, you could see a french revolution style where fed up people commit acts or terrorism or arm themselves to drive out the wealth and snobbish elite while also engaging in meritocratic discrimination, more wellfare spending and xenophobia.
most people would call it fascism but I don't think that's accurate, fascism and communism was a reaction to the failed policies of liberal democracy but can't be repeated exactly, the reaction to this era of liberal failed policies will manifest itself differently and will draw different conclusions to how to solve it, I'm not sure if there will be a religeus element to it, since religion is on a downward spiral but it might replace religion with a mix between volkish, agnostic and pop cultural symbolism.
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@shorewall yeah that's somewhat true but if policy can give decline to birthrates then why can't police raise birthrates? looking at the costs of living, food, energy prices, housing prices and competition for jobs while wages are declining then starting a family might look like a bad idea.
it's like with animals if there are no resources to suppor them, they refuse to reproduce, perhaps many young people have experienced society as being unable to support them, while many people who have large families, seem to rely on both the state, their family members and the church/mosque for support while the natives get little to nothing and a more hostile additude thrown at them from the top and society at large.
I would say a combination of deregulations in key industries (like housing market), family support government spending, tax cuts for the lower classes and cutting off social programs that promote ''western values'' might be the best way forward, we spend so much money on so much useless crap and should realy cut some people loose, become more pragmatic and meritocratic based while supporting our own communities first.
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@SilvesterBathroomStallone that's pretty interesting because from what I've seen that type of behavior is most common with people either suffering from depression, autism, lacking social skills and attractiveness.
The acting out towards woman, feeling resentfull, anger at both their rejection from woman and experiences of societal gender rolls, the ironic thing is these types of behaviors are extremely common in feminist movements, black activist groups, fundamentalist islamic groups, certain types of men going their own way type of behavior.
But it's realy only incels that get hated on freely, so it becomes a self premoting cycle, person gets rejected by woman (not just once, constantly) abandoned by society, told to man up, unable to do so either at school, personal life, family, media, becomes resentfull, needs to express that resentment and despise woman for their privilaged roll in western society, finds other men who experienced the same thing, fuel eachothers resentment and frustration as a means of finding some form of community and attention, society reacts to their existence and community, labels them hatefull, spitefull, losers and what not, gets more resentment and repeat.
Now I understand that for these people to change they need to both change their outlook but also find some path of redemption and frankly non exist in society, the churches are empty, family structures have collapsed, the media is a shitshow, governments are abusive and stupid, western society is dominated by feminist movements that actually want more wealth and privilages towards woman (you got a woman quota for top end jobs in the Netherlands forced through by the government for example) with ironically less responsability for either their potential husbands, children and society.
It's all just such a mess right now and it's also worrysome because these types of men and this type of society is ripe for political, ideological or religeus extremism.
To me incels are just another symptom of a deranged and disfunctional society and I pitty them.
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