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16:35 ok look, I’ve heard this argument many, many times. And it’s very flawed.
1) yes, on the map shown, it looks like much of the heartland is blood red conservative.
In actuality it’s more purple, as many of those areas also have the greater suburban and metropolitan areas of the major cities in them.
Never mind much if the land is made up of a highly diverse population of people. This ranges from whites, blacks (especially in the rural south), Hispanics, native Americans ect.
I highly doubt this group of people would really around solely the right wing of the political spectrum.
2) have you ever done the logistics of how one would “cut off and surround” a major city???
Like, you’d need easily 10s of thousands of militants just to blockade all the ways into one city . And even then, that’s just the land connections. How the hell do you think your going blockade a major port or a city with a big international airport?
You would need several counties worth of people to even attempt this wanna-be Maoist tactic. And as I stated in point 1, very few rural people are going to be on the same page, let along 10s of thousands of them.
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@randomdude8202 this is not WW2 though, men and equipment (especially equipment) are far more expensive to replace and the public optics on such losses can cause serious consequences to each sides political and social environment.
I’d like to point out the US helped win world war 2 by, firstly, working ALONGSIDE its allies, making the greatest logisticaland industrial m system in military history, and using its massive air and sea power to grid down the german, Italians and Japanese war machines at home.
Nevermind the fact much of our equipment was more then a match to what the axis were fielding, especially our small arms, aircraft, ships, radar, sonar, radios, artillery, medicine and trucks.
Which is what we’re doing right now, giving Ukraine lend-lease, intelligence, and training and hurting the Russians politically and economically.
And you bet your ass we got rid of under-performing generals in the world war 2. A great example is Lloyd Fredendall, who completely botched the early North Africa campaign for us.
And this really didn’t have to be a life or death situation for Putin either. He can quite right now, and MAYBE we can go back to the status quo of pre-February 2022, though atm, thats a BIG “maybe”.
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@shyamsulannuar3861 apparently not, because not only are they a year into this war with no end in sight, but the Ukrainians are only continuing to get better armed as time goes on.
You what is the best way to save BTGs from destruction? not invading another country . Instead, not only did they lose a 1/3 of the BTGs originally deployed, they lost most of the land they fight so hard to capture to start with.
At this point, when Mariupol is inevitably back in Ukrainian hands, im sure the Russian will say “it was a jester of good will” ,” we didn’t want to be I circled”, or better “we didn’t need THAT city anyway, even if we fought for 2 months to take it”.
Oh, and when my feed online is filled with “a tornado” aftermath, I’ll let you know. Because compared to HIMARS, the tornado hasn’t turned things around for the Russians yet.
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@damagedmak how about 10 more himars, 20 more m777s, NASAM’s, ATACMS, more javelins, drones, M2 Bradley’s, Stykers, Bushmasters,……
Man, we still have at least a year worth of supplies left in the storage dumps. And that’s assuming we don’t just start making more soon.
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@bakedinspiration will do buddy.
I mean, gee, Bakmut must be a super critical rail hub, road junction, bridgehead, power junction, port, airfield, fuel depot, and have plenty of Russian civilians still to welcome there occupiers in with flowers after such a long fight and high cost of resources for Russia too, right?
Right?🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@Floridarollin cool fan fic bro.
Now tell Me, why did Russia leave 9,000km of terrain, Sumy, Chernihiv, Izyum, Lymen, Kupyansk, Kharkiv, Snake island and Kherson if it’s causalities are so ridiculously low?
Hell, why arnt they in Kyiv again already, if apparently the Ukrainians have lost there entire pre-war army by now? 🤡
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@Cook-e1d oh ya, sure.
Millions of tons of food, steel, oil, mechanical parts, a dozen whole factories, hundreds of locomotives and rolling stock, thousands of aircraft, tanks, trucks, and millions of pairs of uniforms and medical supplies.
But totally the Soviets didn’t rely on foreign support to keep fighting 🤣🤡
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@ArnavSharma-bj4ct any yet, the Ukrainians still got over the first two
Lines of Russia little Maginot line rip off, and took robotyrne.
Avdiivka isn’t even 15 miles from Donetsk itself, and the Russians have been fighting their since 2022, and only now are staring to show any results.
after turning it into a unusable f&cking wasteland before hand
But ya, let’s also just ignore the ruskies losing at the gates of Kyiv, Irpin, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv, Kupyansk, Izyum, Lymen, Snake island, and Kherson too while we’re at it too right?
aT LeASt wE GoT 19 HoUSes CoMrAdEs 🤡
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@trevorcrook5753 because don’t see how the donbass would suddenly see a mass-collapse of the Ukrainian lines.
I mean, it was suppose to collapse in April after mauriopol fell, in may after Izumi fell, in June after Severdonesk, and then in July when slovyanks was the next target.
And that was when they had all this numerical artillery advantage, limited local air superiority, and a numerical troop advantage after retreating from Kyiv. Yet here we are.
Now that Himars has limited there artillery ammo supply, more western supplies of armor and artillery has arrived, and at least 10k Ukrainians are being trained per month in the west, I can see the Russians starting to losing ground in the south.
And a bloody stalemate in the east, as we’ve seen for the last 6 months.
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@666Ekinox no. It is not.
Not since the days of Napoleon, when a nations army maybe numbered a hundred Thousand at the most ,has that been the point of war.
The point of modern war, is to seize critical land and destroy the enemy’s ability to make war, and to seize critical resources and infrastructure in the process.
What you are describing is the kind of Doctrine the US used in Vietnam, and lost with.
You cannot defeat an enemy, if your unable to prevent them from being resupplied (in the case of Vietnam, from the USSR and in Ukraine’s case, NATO), occupy his critical logistic infrastructure (in Vietnam’s case, the port of Hai Phong and the Ho Chi mhn trail, in Ukraines case Odessa, Lyiv , Kharkiv, and Kyiv) and center of leadership and control (Hanoi for Vietnam, Kyiv for Ukraine).
The US also dropped an ungodly amount of munitions of the Vietnamese for 10 years (more then all its munitions in WW2 combined in-fact), and destroyed the NVA several times over. And still lose in the end.
Russia is making the same mistake and Ukraine, and it will lose just the same.
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Meanwhile Kyiv, Hostemel, Irpin, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkiv, Kupyansk, Izyum, Odessa, Lymen, snake island, and Kherson are still Ukrainian…..
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@bigmoe9856 ok, but if those rubles cant purchase anything outside of Russia, what good is it as a trade medium?
Russia, despite what some of the Vatniks claim, is not self sufficient, and does need a steady import of goods to keep certain industries running. (I’m particular, advanced weapons manufacturing, it’s airline industry, ship building/maintenance, information technology industry ect).
China can help, but their going to want dollars for goods, not rubles. Because China, in turn, can’t use rubles anywhere else in the world.
Same applies with India, which is why Russia has billions of rupees it can’t do anything with now.
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@joshuabeckham2387 it most certainly is. And it’s a problem that the Russians have done now 3 times.
They tired this same stunt at Mariupol, and then had to abandon Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv and Kharkiv city in order to sustain the siege, and then focus on donbass.
They did it again at servedonesk, we’re they forced the Ukrainians to retreat, but spent too much of there manpower and supplies to capitalize on their success, while also having to give up Snake island, the blockade of Odessa and the Mykolaiv advance in the process.
They did it once again at Kherson, throwing what they had at the Ukrainians, only to lose all of Kharkiv oblast, Kupyansk, Izyum, and Lymen in the process, and still lost Kherson in the end to.
And now at Bakmut, like serverdonesk, even if they take the city, they’ve spent too much to actually exploit thier gain, and will inevitably lose land back to the Ukrainians on the other fronts they’ve ignored, probably in he south.
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@tomk3732 amazing. Not a single thing you said is right.
Artillery does not win wars. Even in WW1, artillery constantly failed to dislodge enemy forces dug in to a position, even when fired in the millions of rounds (as seen at the Somme, Vurdun, the 1916 spring offensive, and the 1918 “Kaiser battle”.)
It was the invention of the tank, and combined arms tactics pioneered by the Entente that finally broke the stalemate in 1918, not artillery.
Artillery, even years later in the Second World War, failed routinely to destroy or dislodge dug in opponents. Even with naval-sized gun fire support, As seen at places like Leningrad, Stalingrad, Omaha beach, monte casino, Okinawa, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and many other places.
Artillery worked for Napoleon, because every army of that period still stood out in the open in tight formations like idiots, or hit behind large mid-evil fortress walls. Had napoleon fought against trenches, or a more dispersed, loosely formed enemy, he would have never won a single battle.
Artillery. Doesn’t. Win. Wars.
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@tomk3732 artillery was NOT the deciding factor of WW1. Tanks, aircraft and the introduction of combined arms tactics was.
Artillery is a logistics heavy tool that, at best, can suppress an enemy unit or position. Artillery in its entire history has never completely destroyed an enemy unit, position or managed to hold any sort of terrain by its self.
The fact the Russians and their fan boys think artillery will somehow make up for the poor training, bad leadership, terrible communications and crippling corruption issues in their command structure, is absolutely laughable.
The Russians, if they were smart, should pack up and go home, before they see their country collapse again for the third time.
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@realdaybreaker8013 so why hasn’t Russia reached Lyiv yet bud?
Looks like those “purpose driven” weapons are just Soviet Made Shit that can’t match the quality of Western weapons.
If they could, Russia would still be holding Kherson, Kharkiv, Izyum, Lymen, Snake island, Chernihiv, Sumy, and would be in Kyiv by now!
Oh, and somehow, Russia has “been preparing for this war for many years” but, simultaneously, “miscalculated the wests response to this war”?
Does double think coke stock standard for you Z-boys? 🥴
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Your not wrong.
Our guys haven’t gone into a war without night vision, body armor, sufficient fuel and ammo, spoiled rations, malfunctioning missiles, tanks, vehicle, sufficient supplies of GPS gear, precision munitions, secure comms ect…….
Mean while, all this has happened to the Russian military in Ukraine.
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@ahmedalsharman ok, so why was the Ukrainians military only 200,000 strong including reservists and why was it only using Soviet-originated equipment until 2022?
The only western supplies gear in the Ukrainian military prior to 2022 were some decommissioned Humvee’s and a tiny amount of small arms. You didn’t see any Western artillery, AFVs, drones, communications gear, or any thing remotely close to what the UAF has after the Russian invasion. Never mind the UAF is 3x the size it was now, then it was during those 8 years.
And even then, the UAF isn’t even close to NATO standardization or integration. For the simple fact, Ukraine is not a NATO member , and didn’t even have the ability to join until Russia invaded it last year.
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@666Ekinox apparently not Russia.
Apparently Russia needs almost a million men and a year of constant fighting to crush an army 1:4 of its size🤷♂️
And man, for an army that has no tanks apparently, they sure had a lot of them March into Kherson and Kharkiv not even 4 months ago….
Infact the same men and tanks marched into Sumy, Chernihiv, Izyum, Kupyansk, Lymen, and seem to be about to March in to Kremenia as well…..
Funny that for an army that apparently is on its 8th mobilization isn’t it?
Odd that Russia, despite taking so few losses apparently, has to abandon 8,000+km of land, the gates of Kyiv and Kherson to “preserve the lives of there troops”, while also conscripting another 300,000 men, isn’t it?
Probably because the Russians have taken severe losses and the Z-boys can’t seem to cope with it other then writing fanfictions online 🤡
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Ukraine still has Odessa and access to the Black Sea, and their offensive is still ongoing.
Meanwhile, the Russians have lost Irpin, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkiv, Kupyansk, Izyum, Lymen, Snake island, Kherson and all the little towns and villages in between for the last 500+ days.
And at this rate, they’ll lose Crimea too.
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@giawou6615 have you ever studied a map my guy?
If NATO forces moved from Finland, they’d be in St. Petersburg in an afternoon, and could threaten Russian submarine bases in Murmansk. That’s a HUGE problem for Russia, never mind the stationing of NATO ships and aircraft in Finland.
On top of that, if NATO can hit Moscow from Ukraine with missiles, they most definitely can do it from Finland.
Not that they would, mind you. Because this isn’t the 1960s and more, and if we really wanted to threaten Russia with missiles, we would simply station more Ohio class subs in the attic, B-52s in Japan, Alaska, South Korea, Norway, England or build missile silos in Alaska and Canada.
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After this mess of war, the US would win, Most definitely. Without nukes, the Russians would be screwed.
The most Russian Air Force would be wiped out on the ground, the Russian Black Sea, pacific, and Baltic fleets rendered unusable, if not sunk in port out right, and the majority of Russian command and control and logistics would be neutralized with in a month of hostilities.
After that, Russian tank and artillery bridges would be hunted down and destroyed beneath American air superiority (though, I’d like think we’d just ask there conscript crews to just go home first)
I can see Vladivostok, Kaliningrad, and, possibly, St. Petersburg would be under US control in short order, (though we wouldn’t intend to keep them) and a peace deal reach not long after.
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