Comments by "oneoflokis" (@oneoflokis) on "Jeremy Corbyn responds to anti-Semitism claims and Forde report" video.

  1.  @pepegalego  THAT'S not possible, if there are different wings and factions. The nearest to that is what Corbyn actually DID: which was to have the Labour manifesto & its proposals, voted on and passed at Conference: ie by the LABOUR MEMBERSHIP. That's democratic. Not kowtowing to a lot of whiny Blairite MPs!
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  2.  @daphneparkin6869  Exactly. Damn the PLP to the deepest infernal regions.
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  3. He is SO right about the Red Wall Labour vote declining drastically in about the past 20 years... 😏 This is all the fault of New Labour; and its failure to create jobs.
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  4. Me too!! 🙂👍
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  5. I agree.
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  6. @Insane World If you don't just toddle off and take your inanities with you... Personally I don't know why YouTube don't delete multiply repeated comments! 😏
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  7. Sadly. ☹️ (And Starmer has. 😏)
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  8.  @neilburns8869  Sure. Starmer WOULD say that - AFTER the fact. 😏 Being the classic turncoat, who pretended to support Jeremy to the hilt before elections. 👎
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  9. And it WAS a magnificent manifesto! 👌👍💯
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  10. Of course! Mr Corbyn wouldn't have all those rabbis supporting him if that were not the case. But thank you for saying so and giving your opinion!
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  11.  @davecross4493  Yeah: they were pretty horrible to Ed, too... And he was Jewish. I think because he was suspected of having too much union backing. 😏
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  12.  @Bobisalive  Don't make me laugh! 🙄 (But actually you've highlighted a bit, what the RW media will do to Starmer come an election. They'll highlight his Rodney-ness, making him look stupid, same as with Ed Miliband. Then come the GE, the Sun etc will highlight the fact that Starmer was against Brexit and pro a second referendum, all for the benefit of the "Red Wall" ignorami who still think Brexit was a good idea! 😏
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  13.  @Andyreally  He KEEPS repeating it, on all of these threads! Click Report. 😏
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  14.  @Bobisalive  No, they didn't. And I want PR. It's much fairer. Including to the smaller parties.
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  15. No, I didn't mean 40%. But it was closer than you think. Just not in the right constituencies. And it came VERY close in 2017! Some people say that just an extra 2,500 odd votes - bit less than that - again in the right constituencies of course - would have tipped Corbyn over into victory and premiership. Certainly gave May a scare! So basically: Labour people in the marginal constituencies should have given all their kids and their kids' friends and any student they came near, a big kick up the backside, in 2017, to get them registered to vote, and voting Labour. 😏 THAT would surely have helped a bit. But, of course, the fact that many New Labour run constituencies, both in 2017 and 2019, didn't want to help Corbyn (even Andy Burnham is guilty) because they thought of him as the Antichrist - or rather they knew that they themselves were antisocialist - didn't help at all. And THEN, the morning after in 2019, I heard a torrent of them come on Radio 4, wailing and GNASHING their teeth and blaming Corbyn - all because they had been paid back for their basic party disloyalty, by losing their seats! 😏 At least THAT was a bit of satisfaction I had! 😌
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  16. We don't really talk about "the popular vote" here, since it is an American term, applicable to Presidential elections. The FPTP system also causes large distortions, including some quite bizarre ones, as detailed in Alex Nunn's book about Corbyn, The Candidate. But interesting things come out when the breakdowns are done properly! Such as that Labour did LOTS better in 2017 than it did in 2005, never mind 2010 - its vote peaked in 2017 - yet that STILL wasn't enough to win it an election, whereas a lesser result was in 2001 and 2005. 🤷‍♂️ Labour didn't do NEARLY so badly in 2015, either, as the Tories and their sympathisers would have you believe. They had a good old sneer in their papers at Ed afterwards. Yet: the Labour "vote share" went up slightly overall, and up 3.5% or similar in England. BUT the LibDem vote collapsed, probably because of their treachery to the students (and this was before Brexit, as well, so people couldn't vote for them as "the party of Remain".) So the Tories had those seats; the SNP hoovered up most of the seats in Scotland, and overall the working class wasn't much inspired by Ed's "austerity lite" manifesto. So the Tories won overall in 2015, without even having to go into coalition. So that really marked the end of New Labour ruling the Labour Party, and the rise of Corbyn and his supporters. Everything since 2019 - and before - has just been a result of that outmoded wing of Labour trying to claw its way back to power again. If they win through the avatar of Starmer in a year or two, it will only be by default. 😏👎
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  17. Exactly.
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  18.  @andydudley1775  Putting more slanders, are we?
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  19.  @isaacthompson3600  🙂👍
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  20. @Insane World Why do you keep repeating this idiocy on every thread?
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  21.  @levbronstein-red  Exactly. I suggest a bit of reporting. Spam!
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  22.  @Bobisalive  Not the way the media were portraying "cuddly Boris"... And demonising JC!
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  23.  @josephm5493  🙄🙄🙄🙄 Slander.
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  24.  @SM-mz2hz  Sure. He's a Red Tory.
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  25. Exactly. Too much of England is into English exceptionalism not social justice.
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  26.  @Ghengiskhansmum  Now Mr Corbyn & Mr McDonnell DID take certain people to court... But I'm not really sure what became of that. The Britush legal process is far too slow to influence elections anyway. 😏
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  27.  @Bobisalive  No: because we have a broken electoral system, and 40% of people voted Labour. Just not in the right constituencies to win! 😏
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  28. It was New Labour, that lost so badly in 2019.
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  29.  @Bobisalive  Easy win my backside!! With the Sun, sticking him on the cover of their paper, in a bin? 😏 May CALLED that election because she was assured by advisors that Corbyn was an unpopular leader of the opposition (polls and all that), and therefore it would be an easy way to increase her majority. Quite the opposite happened. Labour activists really came out in force for Corbyn; the Labour manifesto was leaked and the policies proved popular; the coverage of Corbyn and Labour under electoral rules by legal requirement became fairer once the election was called; AND the youth were mobilised into voting in larger numbers. You REALLY need to read Alex Nunn's book covering the 2017 election.
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  30.  @geronymousbosch2076  Bull. And he's a logic-chopper too: trying to differentiate between "nationalisation" and "public ownership". The public don't see any difference.
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  31.  @Bobisalive  Oh.. just go and look up a few YouTube videos about it!
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  32.  @Bobisalive  A lot of ignorant white working class (Northern English) males thought that Brexit would be their salvation. Much as many of the same sort of Americans in the same areas ("rust belt states") voted for Trump. Do you call THAT a good choice? (The Yanks at least had the excuse, that a vote for Trump was a protest vote!)
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  33.  @Sleck06  LYING gimmick. It really disqualifies him to be an effective party leader, imo. The evidence of him as liar and betrayer is too OBVIOUS.
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  34.  @leshazell6050  Exactly.
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  35.  @momeara7482  He bloody has! It's all over Twitter, in the form of memes.
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  36.  @Liverpoolboy01  Neah: it's @m o'meara you want!
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  37.  @SM-mz2hz  "ravaged". 🙄
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  38.  @chriswatson3464  Yes how TERRIBLE... 😏
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  39.  @DeputyChiefWhip  Ain't that the truth!
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  40.  @TheSkunkyMonk  Well why did they take all that "furlough" money during Covid?? Eh?? Not all workers fell under the designation of "key workers", by a long chalk!
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  41.  @SM-mz2hz  Interesting comment. 👍
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  42. And don't the MSM hate them for it!
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  43.  @stephenjohnson2800  Jeez Louise. I strongly recommend all readers of these threads to report you and your spammy hate comments. 😏
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  44.  @Andyreally  Oh, he's Left, but not "far Left".
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  45.  @SM-mz2hz  Well the right wing of the Labour Party are the Blairites, who are basically neoliberals.
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  46.  @splinterbyrd  HOW would he do it, though? With treacherous Starmer expelling all socialists, and all critics?
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  47.  @kyllerbuzcut  Exactly. (And if he gets in, it'll be by default: & it will be a weak government because nobody likes him. Sir Rodney.)
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  48.  @jeffreyhanc1711  Yup. 👍
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  49.  @Bobisalive  Yes: and THAT is why he'll be a weak PM, if he ever gets there. Soon to be deposed!
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  50.  @Bobisalive  Starmer is NOT the PM! And he doesn't deserve to be one. He is weak because he is so obviously in the pockets of various anti-working-class interests: big business, the State of Israel. You can be both weak and authoritarian. He's so keen on kissing up to the elites, he banishes all socialists from the Labour Party.
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  51.  @MrSatnavatron  Yup.
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  52.  Josh Stevenson  Is that so? Do you mix with mostly middle class or working class Jews?
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  53. @Insane World 🙄 & what's that got to do with accusations of anti-semitism?
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  54.  @bipolarminddroppings  🙄 Like Labour was crawling with bigots...
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  55.  @retroimmunity  Well why make such a fuss then? 🙄
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  56. Yup. ☹️
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  57.  @ltmund  I think maybe a little bit? But they're ALL afraid of offending the Israel lobby... 😏
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  58.  @andydudley1775  Exactly. 😏💯
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  59. Yup!
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  60. Hmm. But I think that EHRC report should have been rejected by the leadership: because it was in itself unfair and misleading.
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  61.  @Bobisalive  No. Your analysis is off. While you're at it, could you explain to me, why Blair's Labour won in 2005, with a much smaller share of the vote than Corbyn achieved in both elections? (Sure though: I know. FTPT. 😏)
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