Comments by "girl from the bronx by way of el barrio" (@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288) on "Protesters call for gun reform after deadly Nashville school shooting" video.

Mental health assessment before every purchase, age limits, mandatory gun safes, training, permits, registration, comprehensive background checks with waiting periods. That's a start. For instance, if training is required, a professional trainer could likely spot concerning behaviors during the training session and share their concerns in a database or with law enforcement. If a trainer has to sign off before a purchase is complete, that could add another set of professional eyes on the problem. This troubled person was able to purchase seven weapons legally from five vendors. And none of those vendors thought to ask some questions? And there's no tracking system in Tennessee to realize that is going on? No red flag laws in Tennessee, so no way to know that she had an emotional disturbance. Guns are extremely dangerous things, they should be difficult to obtain. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is needed; the patchwork of state laws is not working.
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@Karen-en8rb Actually, that's why some schools moved to reduce school resource officers, because in some cases they are over zealous and unnecessarily criminalizing students. They are no "friends". Turning a school into a police state has several consequences. On the other hand, gun control works. NYC is not perfect, but because we are a strict gun control environment, mass shootings do not occur in our schools. No one would be able to walk down the block with an AR 15 in an environment with limited permits and no open carry. They would be spotted and called in well before reaching the school. Gun control works.
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A box cutter cannot shoot up a school. One staff member might have been stabbed, so an injury but not a mass shooting. Also, you cannot shoot out the lock on the entrance door with a box cutter. Gun control works. It doesn't make all threats disappear, but it does make threats more manageable. Please remember that the AR 15 was tested by the military for use in Vietnam. It really is not manageable in a civilian environment. No new sales of AR 15, then some gun buybacks and mandated gun safes. Keep the thing locked in your basement if you must. Sorry the gun vendors picked your pockets for this expensive grotesque thing.
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Top murder rates by state: Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, New Mexico, Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee (2022). Tennessee does not have red flag laws; 19 other states do have red flag laws. You can't talk about mental health, but then have no red flags to monitor that at the point of purchase. Gun control works. Tennessee has very flimsy gun laws, and children and teachers are paying the price. If Tennessee legislature has no courage, comprehensive federal gun safety legislation will resolve gaps in this patchwork of flimsy state laws vs gun safety states. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is overdue. Get to work Congress.
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Actually, it is "well regulated". The second amendment is one sentence with several clauses set off by commas. The gun fan club likes to skip "well regulated" in the first clause and jump to "shall not be infringed" in the last clause. But sentences don't work that way, all the words matter. The Heller opinion stated that gun rights are not unlimited. Breun also provides for regulations. But the gun fan club doesn't read SCOTUS opinions, so they are just sharing gossip from their latest hang out session. The second amendment has outlived its usefulness to the nation. There are no redcoats. It's time to draft a new amendment to enshrine public safety in the constitution. When the 18th amendment (prohibition) became a threat to public safety, the 21st amendment repealed prohibition. A public safety amendment doesn't need to repeal the second amendment, just explicitly balance the right of innocent people to survive in their own society. Guns should not have more rights than children.
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Gun control works. NYC will stay with strict gun control because it works.
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I choose gun control, because gun control works. Teaching while carrying guns in class does not work. Ask the teachers' unions why. You want to see some impressive teacher strikes? More teacher vacancies than we have now? The unions will never support it because they know how dangerous it would be. This topic was already discussed ad nauseum after Uvalde. Did you pay attention to any of that painful discussion? Before the pandemic, NYC was enjoying historically low crime rates. Strict gun control got us there. NYC is not perfect, however our schools do not experience mass shootings. In a gun control environment an individual walking down the street with an AR 15 is impossible to fathom. He would be spotted and called into the police well before reaching a school. Gun control works. The gun industry knows that gun control works, that's why they fight against it with all of their might. Be brave enough to stand up for innocent children and people who just want to go to the grocery store. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is overdue. Draft the bills, or get voted out of Congress. 🗽🏫🗽
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Or gun control laws. Then your children can go to school, meet friends, enjoy the school basketball team, prom, school talent shows, the science fair. You know, be a kid. We know that zoom school didn't work; lowest academic outcomes in years, highest anxiety and depression rates. Gun control works. Do the work. Contact your representatives and vote them out and if they won't do the work.
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Regarding Mexico, everyone's favorite punching bag lately, a joint press briefing with Homeland Security and Mexican law enforcement shared that most guns recovered from murders in Mexico originated from ten counties in the USA. So flimsy gun states are actually supplying criminal gangs in Mexico, that destabilize communities, generating desperate immigrants, and then we have the border. So if Texas was truly concerned about the border, they would tighten their gun laws. In fact, during an early Uvalde press briefing, law enforcement commented that the Uvalde shooter purchased two AR 15 and a massive amount of ammunition. He stated that Texas law enforcement usually sees that when someone is trying to sell materials to a cartel. Our ineffectual patchwork of state gun laws are destabilizing Mexico. You're welcome.
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Wow, stray gun fire in the mall from several "good guys with guns". Some with good aim, some maybe not. Please don't sign me up. Gun control works. Fewer guns, not more guns.
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Controls on ghost guns are in the works. Be responsible. That's what it means to live in society with other humans. Be human. Contact your representatives ASAP for much needed comprehensive federal gun safety legislation.
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@TheSodFather09 If Tennessee was concerned about mental health, they would have red flag laws. 19 other states have them. This troubled individual was suicidal, her friend tried for fifteen minutes to get through to someone to tell them that, but couldn't make it happen. Why doesn't Tennessee have a reporting hotline? Her parents convinced her to sell a gun she had, but had no way of knowing that she had purchased seven more weapons from five vendors. Tennessee seems to have no database to alert gun vendors when someone is amassing an arsenal like that. Please don't tell me that the gun fan club is worried about mental health, because flimsy gun laws and inadequate mental health budgets tell another grotesque story. Children are dying.
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As for California, I'm not confident about the validity of that statistic. California is a very large state, so it is necessary to use per Capita rates when comparing states. One source says California is #1, another says Illinois is #1 but California is #3, and none of these look like high profile sources. I'm not seeing the New York Times here, so... Please use responsible news sources, there's a lot of misinformation out there. Before the pandemic, NYC was enjoying historically low crime rates. Strict gun control got us there. Fewer guns, fewer problems. I can guarantee you that people are not walking around NYC with AR 15, and that's a good thing for everyone.
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@griffon310 I don't think recruiters are interested in potential insurrectionists. Maybe your zeal for "involvement" with the government could be satisfied by joining the FBI? Homeland Security? Maybe they are hiring? BTW gun control works, on many levels and for many reasons. Stay safe everyone. 🌻🗽🌻
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If that teacher cares about innocent children, she should be working with her representatives to draft effective gun safety legislation. No new sales of AR 15, red flag laws, mental health assessment for each purchase, training, permits, registration, age limits, mandatory gun safes. It can be done, most responsible owners already do these things. This doesn't make the problem disappear but it reduces the threat to a level that law enforcement can work on. NYC is not perfect, but mass shootings do not happen in our schools. In a strict gun control environment, a person with an AR 15 would be spotted blocks away from a school and called in before they get close to the school. If you are in a state with open carry, no permits, just walk in with money walk out with a weapon, well how can the police ever manage that? What are you thinking? Gun manufacturers are making buckets of money, and Innocent people are paying for that grotesque profit with their lives. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is needed, because this patchwork of state laws is definitely not working.
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@thurin84 NYC schools do not experience mass shootings. Gun control works; teachers can concentrate on teaching and doing a thousand other things happening in a classroom at any moment.
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There are states that have open carry without permits. Tennessee did not have red flag laws, even though 19 other states have red flags. Many states do need stronger laws. How do you enforce laws in a state with open carry and no permits? Those flimsy laws also make it very easy for guns to fall into criminal hands. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is needed to avoid these gaps in state to state laws.
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@Tuscarora21 Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation would reduce the illegal guns that feed the iron pipe line. Gun traffickers who obtain guns in flimsy gun law states drive guns across state lines straight into the hands of criminals. Who would buy a gun from a weird guy's trunk? See how that works? So soft gun laws in Indiana interfere with Illinois's attempts to keep their state safe. Thanks Indiana? NYPD'S iron pipeline is the I 95 turnpike driving illegal guns from southern states with flimsy laws. In fact, according to a joint briefing with both Homeland Security and Mexican law enforcement, guns used in murders in Mexico originated from ten counties within the USA. So our flimsy state gun laws are actually supplying criminal gangs in Mexico, which destabilizes communities causing desperate immigrants, and then we have the border problem. So if Texas really cared about the border, they would have stronger gun laws. But Abbott is winning elections off this disgusting blood bath, and even went so far as to declare Texas a gun sanctuary state. No sanctuary for the children of Uvalde, but sanctuary for guns. Really? Gun regulations are not the same as no guns, just that you need a permit and there is a process. You can't walk in with money and walk out with multiple guns. Remember the shooter in Uvalde walked out with two AR 15 and more ammunition than a soldier would carry into a combat mission. And the gun vendor didn't ask any questions about that?? That could not happen in NYS. Federal legislation will reduce the "crossing state lines" problem that feeds illegal activity. In fact, the shooting in Buffalo was enabled when that hate criminal purchased materials in Pennsylvania (I believe oversized magazines) that are illegal in NYS, then drove across state lines. Also, I believe federally licensed gun vendors have more guidelines that other gun vendors. Sorry this is so long. Obviously this is a complex problem. It will probably require several small pieces of legislation. I would start with ending new sales of AR 15 and repealing PLCAA. Then we can address ghost guns, gun owner suicides, hand guns used in street crime, etc etc etc. What a mess. Wow, I am so glad that I have never owned a gun. I have lived in several "dangerous" neighborhoods, but you know what? The best crime prevention tool is your brain. Ask any cop about that. Thanks, be well, stay safe. Hug your loved ones today.
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The second amendment has outlived its usefulness to the nation. There are no redcoats. Let's draft a new amendment to enshrine public safety in the constitution.
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Wiley 5oh:. Yes, I trust federal law enforcement more than militia LARPers and governors like Abbott. Had the nerve to declare Texas a gun sanctuary state. No sanctuary for the children of Uvalde, but lots of profit for gun vendors. Evil and grotesque. The patchwork of flimsy state gun laws vs safe gun states is not working. Illegal gun traffickers feed the iron pipeline and drive illegal guns straight into the hands of criminals. Maybe governors like Abbott get a cut of that business too. Federal comprehensive gun safety legislation is overdue. Sorry, gun fan club, find a more positive hobby.
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In terms of prosecution, NYC prosecutes gun crimes vigorously. One gun law was a mandatory sentence of two years for carrying an unlicensed gun. That one simple measure substantially changed youth behavior, and I witnessed adolescents switch from carrying an illegal handgun"just in case" to carrying a box cutter. The risk of two years imprisonment was just not worth it. (BTW I'm not sure if the Breun SCOTUS opinion damaged that law. Thanks, SCOTUS? Idiots. I hope not. I know that gun violence and murder are down, so NYPD does seem to be scooping up a lot of guns and making a come back from pandemic peaks. Other crimes are still up, but I'd rather get robbed than shot, so...). Now, a box cutter is a dangerous thing in a fight, but you can't shoot up the town parade with a box cutter, so.... Gun control laws work. They don't make all threats disappear, but they can reduce threats to manageable levels. And if police feel they can manage the threat, they are less likely to pull a Uvalde tragedy. Please make sure you are using reliable news sources, because this "democrat cities" talking point spreads like a virus, and is so untrue. Remember, Chicago would be a safer place if Indiana's soft gun laws didn't sabotage law enforcement.
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@thurin84 There are dozens of reasons why teachers carrying guns would never work. The fact that you don't know that yet is proof that you have never worked in a school, or even spent time in your child's classroom. This topic was discussed ad nauseum after Uvalde. With so many teachers leaving the profession, this ridiculously unsafe idea would be one more. However, gun control works, and you know it too. NYC is not a perfect place, but our schools do not experience mass shootings. Because strict gun control works.
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Not the way democracy works. The majority of the USA population supports gun safety legislation. The gun grab thing is a myth, just like "good guy with a gun" is a myth. Intended to make the AR 15 fan club get all excited and buy more real quick. Get it? The gun industry wants to make lots and lots of money, get it? Can't you feel them picking your pockets? No new sales of AR 15. Mandate gun safes, something that any responsible guy owner is already doing. Then your old AR 15 stays locked in your basement, not walking around the world, not easily stolen by criminals the next time your house gets robbed. If you need to keep your old AR 15 forever, like an old 1975 Dodge Dart, go for it. Repeal PLCAA to restore liability to gun manufacturers, and their own lawyers will insist on gun safety protocols at point of sale to demonstrate due diligence in court proceedings. Progress. Safety. I'm for it.
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Thank you for your morbid wishes for NYC schools. That's okay, we know what we're doing here. Hopefully you will work on those negative thoughts. Please find a more positive hobby. Be well, stay safe.
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The second amendment does not protect any specific weapon, especially not the AR 15. PLCAA is a law signed by Bush; this legislation is not protected by the second amendment in any way. There are some gaps in your understanding of constitutional law. Perhaps you could take the class again?
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Tom A: Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is absolutely not an "unsolvable issue." Lazy congressional representatives and those paid by the gun lobby want you to feel that way. Vote out the congressional representatives who refuse to write bills. The job of a lawmaker is to write laws. Vote them out. The AR 15 experienced very low sales when it was first introduced to the civilian market. Hunting was losing popularity as a "sport", so the gun industry needed a new way to sell guns. The AR 15 is not a true hunting rifle because it's too destructive and leaves no useable meat. So the irresponsible gun industry developed a horribly irresponsible advertising strategy: target underage males and call the AR 15 "your man card." Military styled weapons would never have been popular soon after Vietnam in a nation exhausted from war. However, much later when the draft was gone, the illusion of military behaviors without any service to the nation was a vicarious experience to sell to young males who had not yet thought deeply about their lives. That's why age limits work. The brain is very different at age 18 vs age 25. As AR 15 sales jump into the millions, public safety problems and mass shootings increase. Then the perfect storm of bad ideas. The sunset of the crime bill and the assault weapons ban (2004), the Heller decision (2008), and, most ridiculously, Bush signs PLCAA (2005) to shield gun manufacturers from the damage caused by their grotesquely dangerous products. In a post Columbine world, this is a breathtaking lack of responsibility from "leadership." Therefore, comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is needed to repair the horrific damage and reverse the trend of increased mass shootings that began in the 2000s. Gov Abbott has not been strengthening gun laws. He declared Texas a gun sanctuary state, allows for open carry without permits(over the objection of Texas law enforcement) and cut his mental health budget. Uvalde occurred soon after Abbott's horrible decisions. Gun control works. Let's pass the legislation. We have work to do, innocent people are dying.
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Knives are dangerous things, but knives do not shoot multiple bullets per second. No new sales of AR 15, a gun that should never have been available to civilians. But yeah, knives are dangerous too, so store your knives safely, and don't use them for crime because we are a society of laws, so let's behave that way.
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Tennessee needs stronger gun safety legislation. Tennessee does not have a red flag law, so there was no way to trace the emotional disorder of this 28 year old that made her ineligible for gun ownership. She purchased 7weapons from 5 vendors, so it seems that Tennessee has no database to alert gun vendors or law enforcement when someone is amassing an arsenal like that. Her parents had convinced her to sell the weapon she had, but had no way of knowing that she had purchased 7 more weapons. Her friend knew that she was suicidal, and she spent 15 minutes trying to alert someone, but Tennessee has no reporting hotline so there was no efficient way for her to share this life saving knowledge. Tennessee needs stronger gun safety legislation. Get to work.
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On the federal level, start by repealing PLCAA to restore liability to gun manufacturers, and their own lawyers will insist on gun safety protocols at point of sale to demonstrate due diligence in court proceedings. At the federal level, start with no new sales of AR 15, the most useless gun. Gun buybacks can encourage owners to divest themselves of this grotesque thing. Mandating gun safes is just a basic practice that responsible gun owners are already doing. That keeps the things locked in the basement, not walking around the world. It also prevents guns from being stolen during home burglary and falling into the hands of criminals. Ask any cop how commonplace that is. Little by little, we can peel back the layers of this onion. Ghost guns, gun owner suicides, hand guns and street crime, etc. However, comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is where we start. The current background checks are not comprehensive enough. The patchwork of flimsy state gun laws is clearly not working.
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Laws absolutely apply to the criminally insane. That's how criminally insane individuals end up in prison. If Tennessee had robust mental health services, this troubled young person could have received better care that might have prevented this tragedy. If Tennessee had a reporting hotline, her friend could have reached someone quickly when her friend texted her with a suicidal goodbye message. She tried for 15 minutes and no one answered. Since flimsy state gun laws clearly are not working, comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is overdue. 130 mass shootings in 2023. Enough.
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Michael Alvarado: Desperate "what about ism" using 9/11 as a bright shiny object. The second amendment fan club has no respect. The 9/11 tragedy has nothing to do with mass shootings in schools. But you knew that, right? Please focus. Thank you for helping to prove that the second amendment has outlived its usefulness to the nation. The wording of this one sentence amendment does not help us to curb gun violence in 2023, so it needs to go. Please find a more positive hobby.
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130 mass shootings in 2023 so far. Yes, more than daily. Top murder rates by state: Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, New Mexico, Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee. Not Illinois, not NYS. States with flimsy gun laws are creating profits for gun manufacturers while threatening innocent lives. And that's okay??? The patchwork of flimsy state to state gun laws is clearly not working. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is needed. Do the work. Contact your representatives ASAP.
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AR 15 was used in Uvalde, Buffalo, El Paso, Sandy Hook, Parkland, Las Vegas, Aurora, Nashville, etc etc etc. No new sales of AR 15, a gun that never should have been adapted for civilian use after it was rejected by the military for use in Vietnam. This is not a true hunting rifle because it leaves no useable meat. The problem is the gun. Eliminate the AR 15, then we can move on to repeal PLCAA, address gun owner suicides, ghost guns, street crime and handguns, etc. Many layers to this onion. Enough.
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Focus on the task at hand. Changing the topic to denying reproductive healthcare does not protect school children from horrific bloody death in their schools. No new sales of AR 15, the gun of choice in mass shootings. Stop the "what about ism". Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is overdue. Draft the bills, or they get voted out. Focus. Gun control works.
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@thurin84 It doesn't seem that you understand how illegal gun traffickers ply their trade. Perhaps you should ask a police officer about the iron pipeline. Gaps in state gun laws enable the iron pipe line.
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@TheSodFather09 Huge gaps in logic. The rise of the AR 15, the sunset of the assault weapons ban(2004), the Heller opinion(2008) and Bush signing PLCAA (2005). These things did not happen in the 40s or even the 70s. These factors, and others, account for the rise of gun violence and mass shootings. NYS gun laws are not a recent concept, the law SCOTUS tried to tumble recently was in place for 100+ years. Gun control works, because. .. fewer guns get it? Oops, maybe you're a gun vendor? Maybe that's why you want everyone to break their budget on overpriced weapons without considering public safety?
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The Smorgman: Well regulated means well regulated. Justice Scalia in Heller stated that gun rights are not unlimited. The Breun opinion contains guidelines for gun regulations. Read the opinions. Do the work. If the founders knew technology would evolve, they were counting on constitutional interpretation to evolve as well. That's why an originalist SCOTUS doesn't work. The Federalist society is not the best way to choose new justices. We don't live in the 1700s, we live in 2023. The framers would never have supported a weapon like AR 15 walking around in the world. The gentleman who created that weapon never intended it for anything but military use. Discuss that at your next hang out session with the originalist second amendment fan club. The reality is you have only proven that the second amendment has outlived its usefulness to the nation, and the phrasing of the amendment does not have the flexibility to meet the challenges of the modern world. It's time to draft a new amendment to enshrine public safety in the constitution. We have the National Guard; there are no redcoats. Enough.
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Michael Alvarado: Wow, I did not know that Thomas Jefferson invented the AR 15. 130 mass shootings in 2023. We have a gun problem The purpose of amendments is to make the constitution a flexible document that can address the needs of the nation over time. The second amendment is not allowing innocent people to stay alive, so the second amendment has outlived its usefulness to the nation. It's time to draft a new amendment to enshrine public safety in the constitution. Are you trying to say that the framers did not value public safety? That they valued the opportunity for school children to die in random terroristic fashion?
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Gun control works. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is overdue.
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Dr Burt Gummerfan: The red/blue nonsense is not helping the nation to achieve gun safety, but it is creating huge profits for gun manufacturers. And lots of death. Those ten states are primarily red states, and they have flimsy gun laws. Are you saying that red states have blue cities? So red states want no urban areas in their states? So you realize that the economies of these already fragile states would completely collapse, right? Or you could try gun control, because that works to reduce gun violence. Fewer guns, get it?
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@wiley5oh51 Based on your post on another thread, I doubt your sincerity, but.... No new sales of AR 15, gun buybacks and mandate gun safes. That would reduce the number of AR 15 walking around the world until we can get a better handle on mass shootings. Gun safes are common sense for all weapons. In fact, there are parents on trial right now because their teen student took the family gun out of an unlocked drawer. Responsible gun owners already use gun safes Mental health assessment before every purchase. Red flag laws. Increased funding for mental health services. ( For instance, Texas has some of the softest gun laws, yet Abbott had just cut mental health funding out of the budget before Uvalde. Uvalde had one psychiatrist, one.) Age limits, permits, registration, waiting periods and training. A professional trainer would probably be able to spot concerning behaviors. If a trainer's signature is required to complete the sale, tragic mistakes might be avoided. Anyone who needs a gun the same day....hmmm ....that's a red flag right there. If they really need to mitigate an immediate threat, they need to walk into their police station. Remember, the young man in Virginia who shot his coworkers, he bought that gun the same day. The Uvalde shooter bought two AR 15 and more ammunition than a soldier brings into a military mission and walked right out with it. And no one questioned that? Thanks Texas? The troubled person in Tennessee bought 7 weapons from 5 vendors. But Tennessee has no red flags, so no way to know that's happening. Wow. Repeal PLCAA to restore liability to gun manufacturers and their own lawyers will insist on gun safety protocols at sale to demonstrate due diligence in court proceedings. PLCAA, worse bill Bush ever signed. A gun is a dangerous thing, it should be difficult to obtain. Please don't start with the second amendment. The second amendment does not prevent gun regulation. "Well regulated" is included in the first clause. The Breun SCOTUS opinion allows for regulations. The gun fan club is not aware of that, because they don't bother to read the opinions. Justice Scalia in Heller stated that gun rights are not unlimited. However, if the second amendment truly allows innocent children to die bloody horrific deaths more than once daily, then clearly the second amendment has outlived its usefulness to the nation. 130 mass shootings in 2023. The USA has a gun problem. There are no redcoats. Comprehensive federal gun safety legislation is overdue.
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