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Comments by "COL BEAUSABRE" (@colbeausabre8842) on "KMS Deutschland/Lutzow - Guide 212" video.
6 inch is all a raider needs against merchantmen. Your job is to prey on trade, not to fight battles with warships. You can't afford to be damaged (see Graf Spee). If you run into an escorted convoy, you disappear over the horizon or pick off stragglers.
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@Dave_Sisson No they were big gun armored cruisers. The original armored cruisers had mounted guns just below battleship rank and were armored against the same (RN 9.2 inch guns USN 8 and 10 inch guns at a time when the world standard for battlewagons was 12 inch). The Alaskas mounted 12 inch guns at a time when the world standard was 15-16 inch for capital ships. Battlecruisers mounted capital ship weapons.
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@TheKingofbrooklin Lot of good getting Norway did them. And by rendering the entire fleet hors de combat, Sealion was and even bigger impossibility
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@TheKingofbrooklin An accurate one
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@mannys9130 That's the reason for Permissive Action Links, if they are not activated correctly all you get is a fizzle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_Action_Link If the bad guys have the codes to the PAL, you've got a bigger problem than one rogue nuke
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@LiveErrors Under the Treaties, they WERE battleships. They both displaced over 10,000 tons and mounted guns over 8 inch calkiber
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@gokbay3057 I;d argue they were Armored Cruisers aka Large Cruisers
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@gokbay3057 No reason not to bring back a useful term that had fallen out of use and, yes, I'm aware the WW2 era CA's and CL's were Light Armored Cruisers
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They also weren't sunk
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@jeffrey8847 I don't know where you are getting 720 rounds per gun - that exceeds her total load out for all six guns. From the Navweaps site "Admiral Graf Spee carried 100 rounds per gun during her war cruise. Her outfit consisted of 200 AP, 200 HE Nose Fuze and 200 HE Base Fuze rounds. Of these, 414 were fired during the Plate River battle - all 200 HE Nose Fuze rounds, 184 HE Base Fuze and 30 AP rounds, leaving her with 170 AP and 16 HE Base Fuze rounds at the close of the action. She scored seven hits and one damaging near miss on HMS Exeter while HMS Ajax received one hit and one glancing blow and HMNZS Achilles escaped with a single damaging near-miss, a total of about 2.7 percent" A raider needed a large ammunition and fuel load because she's not going to be able to duck into a convenient base for resupply. Six guns is plenty. Your job is not to fight battles (you can't afford the damage - which ends your cruise - as Graf Spee found out) but to snap up unescorted merchant ships and maybe stragglers from convoys.
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@jeffrey8847 Thanks, but I think that is a misprint. I can believe 720 total rounds but 720 per gun is insane that's 4320 11 inch rounds! The Alaskas - much larger ships - carried 166 12 inch per gun, the Dunkerques - also larger - 110 13 inch per gun. The Prinz Eugen's 8 inch load out was "140 rounds is the design figure. "German Warships 1815-1945" says that the actual outfit per gun ranged from 120 to 160 rounds. "Warship Pictorial #21" says that in 1940 the total outfit was 320 APC, 640 HE and 80 starshell and that in 1944 the total outfit was 1,470 shells of mostly HE plus 40 starshells"
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@johnshepherd8687 They find German duds like Gunnar Herzog tin Germany to this day
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Aerial recon
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@mwnciboo Given geography, it disappeared with passage of the First Naval Law
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@jonathanlong6987 Precisely. They along with the Dunkerques, Scharhorsts and Alaskas were all big gun armored cruisers or as the USN called them, Large Cruisers (the term "Dreadnought Armored Cruiser" had been the original rating of the Invincibles before the term "Battlecruiser" was coined)
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@edvonrattlehead2135 No, that - like most things German in that war - was a victim of Hitler going east
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@johnshepherd8687 Assistant Gunnery Officer on the CVL Monterey. Since he had played college football, his skipper put him in charge of the crews' physical readiness Among other things, he found some basketball hoots and rigged them in the elevator wells https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Gerald_Ford_playing_basketball_on_USS_Monterey_06-1944-Darkened_Larger.jpg
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We won the war, we'll spell it how we damn well please
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If nobody had bothered it, it wouldn't have gone off
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@KatyushaLauncher Armored Cruisers - look 'em up
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According to noted warship design expert Norman Friedman it was a defect of German ships in WW2
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France had depended a great deal on its North African colonies in the Great War and one purpose of the class was to interdict communication between the colonies and metropolitan France. The French were concerned enough that they built the Dunkerques as a response. Of course, how realistic the idea of German raiders in the Med - with no bases and facing the choke point at Gib (even if the UK wasn't a belligerent, easy for the Marine Nationale to seal off) is open to question. They also dominated the Baltic - three modern, fast armored cruisers against two decrepit, poorly maintained and worse trained Russian dreadnoughts is pretty good odds. The Swedes and Finns were sympathetic to Germany and poor Poles didn't stand a chance and knew it. They sent most of their fleet to Britain when war broke out.
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