Comments by "COL BEAUSABRE" (@colbeausabre8842) on "The USN Mothball Fleet - Storing up for a rainy day" video.

  1.  @richardarcher7177  And accumulated damage from WW2. Illustrious sustained machinery damage that caused so much vibration that it required the removal of one shaft and limited her speed to 24 knots. She was narrowly missed by a kamikaze whose bomb detonate so close plates and their supports were split and she was limited to 19 knots. Formidable sustained so much bomb damage that her hull was warped and limited her to 21 knots. Correcting this would require a complete rebuild of the hull due to the armor. Made the concept of a "fast carrier" a joke. So the choice of Victorious was choosing the best ship available Nine Essex class carriers were modified to SCB-27 (1) or SCB-27A (8) standard. Three were updated to SCB-27C and three more to SCB-27C/SCB-125 status "Officially, Ship Characteristics Board Program 27 proper referred to the completion of Oriskany, left unfinished at war's end, to a heavily revised design; reconstructions of earlier ships were programs SCB-27A and 27C. The SCB-27 modernization was very extensive, requiring some two years for each carrier. To handle the much heavier, faster aircraft of the early jet-era, the flight deck structure was significantly reinforced, able to support aircraft weighing up to 52,000 pounds (23,587 kg), namely the North American AJ Savage. Stronger and larger elevators, much more powerful catapults, and new Mk 5 arresting gear were installed. The original four twin 5-inch/38 gun mounts were removed, clearing the flight deck of guns. The new five-inch gun battery consisted of eight weapons, two on each quarter beside the flight deck. Twin 3-inch/50 gun mounts replaced the 40 mm guns, offering much greater effectiveness through the use of proximity fuzed ammunition. The reconstruction eliminated the difference between "short-hull" and "long-hull" ships; all now had similar clipper bows. The island was completely redesigned, made taller, but shorter in overall length with the removal of its gun mounts. In addition, the boiler uptakes were rebuilt and angled aft to accommodate a single radar and communications mast atop the island. To better protect aircrews, ready rooms were moved from the gallery deck to below the armored hangar deck, with a large escalator on the starboard side amidships to move flight crews up to the flight deck. Internally, aviation fuel capacity was increased to 300,000 US gallons (1,135,624 L) (a 50% increase) and its pumping capacity enhanced to 50 US gallons (189.3 L) per minute.[1] Fire fighting capabilities were enhanced through the addition of two emergency fire and splinter bulkheads to the hangar deck, a fog/foam firefighting system, improved water curtains and a cupronickel fire main. Also improved were electrical generating power, and weapons stowage and handling facilities. All this added considerable weight: displacement increased by some twenty percent. The armor belt was removed and blisters were fitted to the hull sides to compensate, widening waterline beam by 8 to 10 feet (2.4 to 3.0 m). The ships also sat lower in the water, and maximum speed was slightly reduced, to 31 knots (57 km/h; 36 mph). The two sub-types of SCB-27 modifications were primarily a result of changes in catapult technology in the early-1950s. SCB-27A vessels used a pair of H 8 slotted-tube hydraulic catapults, while the later SCB-27C vessels were fitted with a pair of C 11 steam catapults, a British innovation (in fact the first four installed, on Hancock and Ticonderoga, were British-built). To accommodate the catapult machinery, the SCB-27C vessels were slightly heavier (43,060 vice 40,600 tons) and after bulging wider abeam (103 vice 101 feet) than their SCB-27A sisters. Additionally, the SBC-27C carriers were equipped with jet blast deflectors, deck cooling, fuel blending facilities, emergency recovery barrier and storage and handling for nuclear weapons, which was not included in all of the SCB-27A carriers. Under SCB-27C the No. 3 (after) elevator was moved to the starboard deck edge; this elevator was located further aft on the first three SCB-27C ships than it was on the ships which received it concomitantly with an angled flight deck under the SCB-125 program.[1] The greater capacity of steam catapults meant that the 27C ships were able to serve as attack carriers through the Vietnam era while their hydraulic-equipped 27A sisters were relegated to antisubmarine duties" Ten carriers were modified to SCB-125 units, one to SCB-125A and three more went through SCB-27C/SCB-125 "The SCB-125 modifications included Angled flight deck Enclosed hurricane bow Mirror landing system Mark 7 arresting gear Primary Flight Control moved to aft end of island Air conditioning No 1 (forward) elevator lengthened (SCB-27C ships only) No 3 (aft) elevator moved from centerline to starboard deck edge (on SCB-27A ships; had been part of SCB-27C refits) The SCB-125 upgrade program was first applied to the final three Essex-class carriers to undergo the SCB-27C modernization while they were still in the midst of their original refit. Ultimately every SCB-27 ship would undergo the SCB-125 modification with the exception of Lake Champlain. Despite the drastic alteration of the carriers' appearance, the SCB-125 refit involved relatively little modification of the ships' existing structure compared to SCB-27, and took around six to nine months as against the approximately two years of the earlier program. The original SCB-27A vessels, which were fitted with a pair of H 8 hydraulic catapults, were not upgraded with the C 11 steam catapults fitted to their SCB-27C sister ships due to machinery space limitations. The SBC-27As also did not receive the enlarged No. 1 (forward) elevator installed in the 27C ships as part of SBC-125. The first three 27C ships (Hancock, Intrepid and Ticonderoga) had had their No 3 elevators moved from the centerline to the starboard deck edge, in a position relatively far aft. The next three (Shangri-La, Lexington and Bon Homme Richard), which underwent 27C and 125 concurrently, had the elevator relocated to a deck-edge position farther forward, and this location was used for the 27A ships as they in turn underwent SCB-125. Oriskany, the prototype for the SCB-27 conversion, was the final Essex to undergo SCB-125 conversion and as such, received further enhancements. As a result of the addition of aluminum flight-deck cladding, Mk 7-1 arresting gear and more-powerful C 11-1 steam catapults to the standard SCB-125 modifications, Oriskany alone was referred to as a SCB-125A vessel.[1] These changes also made Oriskany the only SCB-27A vessel to receive steam catapults. "
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  2. "Dodgy boiler" -sounds like some very British slang word insult Which would be appropriate, the design for all 60 was licenced from the British shipbuilder, Yarrow
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  3. "Current navy would never be able to pull off a Korean era reactivation today" Certainly can't - there's not a ship designed to be capable of fighting, as opposed to sailing (maybe), in reserve - they're all stricken, for foreign military sale or targets. The Navy ships that have a useful purpose if reactivated are the Amphibs (6) and Auxiliaries (4) (assuming they are all still mission capable) Here's MARAD's National Defense Reserve Fleet (cargo, tanker and training ships) and the ships at Naval Reserve Ship Maintenance Facilities JAMES RIVER SS Cape Ann (AK-5009)—training use[4] SS Cape Avinoff (AK-5013)—training use[5] SS Cape Juby (AK-5077)—logistics support[6] SS Cape Nome (AK-1014)—logistics support[7] MV Freedom Star—training vessel.  SUISUN BAY SS Cape Bover (AK-5057) – Logistics Support (1966 C4-S-66a) SS Cape Fear (AK-5061) – Logistics Support (1971 C8-S-81b – Barge Carrier, was Austral Lightning) SS Cape Girardeau (AK-2039) - Logistics Support (1968 C5-S-75a) SS Cape Jacob (T-AK-5029) SS FB-62 (APL-24) – 1944 Barge for Fleet Support, a Type B ship SS Green Mountain State (T-ACS-9) SS Petersburg (T-AOT-9101) USNS Triu In January 2016, the Department of Transportation and MARAD have officially announced the fleet closure in February 2017. All remaining ships will be sold at auction or scrapped. BEAUMONT Ported at the Port of Beaumont: MV Cape Texas (T-AKR-112) MV Cape Taylor (T-AKR-113) MV Cape Trinity (T-AKR-9711) Ported in the Beaumont Reserve Fleet: USNS Paul Buck (T-AOT-1122) USNS Samuel L. Cobb (T-AOT-1123) USNS Richard G. Matthiesen (T-AOT-1124) USNS Lawrence H. Gianella (T-AOT-1125) SS Diamond State (T-ACS-7) SS Cape Gibson (AK-5051) (marked for disposal) SS Cape Mendocino (AK-5064) SS Cape Flattery (AK-5070) SS Cape Florida (AK-5071) (marked for disposal) SS Cape Farewell (AK-5073) SS Chesapeake (AOT-5084) SS Bravante V (SV-290) SS Bravante VI (SV-290) SS Bravante VII (SV-290) SS Bravante VIII (SV-290) SS Virginia Ann (SV-290) USS Nassau (LHA-4) Army Barges Texas A&M School Ship, ported in Galveston: USNS Contender (T-AGOS-2) (General Rudder) PHILADELPHIA Ship Class Type Status USS Barry (DD-933) Forrest Sherman Destroyer Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Boone (FFG-28) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Boulder (LST-1190) Newport Landing Ship, Tank Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Canon (PG-90) Asheville Gunboat Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Carr (FFG-52) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS Charleston (LKA-113) Charleston Amphibious Cargo Ship Stricken, to be disposed of. USS De Wert (FFG-45) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS El Paso (LKA-117) Charleston Amphibious Cargo Ship Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Elrod (FFG-55) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USNS Grapple (T-ARS-53) Safeguard Salvage Ship Inactive, out of service, in reserve USS Halyburton (FFG-40) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS Hawes (FFG-53) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USNS Hayes (T-AG-195) Hayes oceanographic research ship Stricken, to be disposed of. USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) John F. Kennedy Aircraft Carrier Stricken, to be disposed of.[5] USS John L. Hall (FFG-32) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Kauffman (FFG-59) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS Klakring (FFG-42) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS Mobile (LKA-115) Charleston Amphibious Cargo Ship Stricken, to be disposed of. USNS Mohawk (T-ATF-170) Powhatan Fleet ocean tug Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Nashville (LPD-13) Austin Amphibious Transport Dock Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Nicholas (FFG-47) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Robert G. Bradley (FFG-49) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Shreveport (LPD-12) Austin Amphibious Transport Dock Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Simpson (FFG-56) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, possible foreign sale. USS Stephen W. Groves (FFG-29) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Ticonderoga (CG-47) Ticonderoga Cruiser Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Underwood (FFG-36) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be disposed of. USS Yorktown (CG-48) Ticonderoga Cruiser Stricken, to be disposed of. BREMERTON Ship Class Type Status USNS Bridge (T-AOE-10) Supply fast combat support ships Inactive, out of service, in reserve. USS Dubuque (LPD-8) Austin Amphibious Transport Dock Inactive, out of commission, in reserve. USS Ingraham (FFG-61) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be sunk as target. USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) Supply fast combat support ships Inactive, out of service, in reserve. USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) Kitty Hawk Aircraft Carrier Stricken, to be disposed of via scrapping.[6] USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG-60) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be sunk as target. USS Long Beach (CGN-9) Long Beach Cruiser Stricken, to be disposed of via scrapping. PEARL HARBOR Ship Class Type Status USS Cleveland (LPD-7) Austin Amphibious Transport Dock Inactive, out of commission, in reserve. USS Denver (LPD-9) Austin Amphibious Transport Dock Inactive, out of commission, in reserve. USS Durham (LKA-114) Charleston Amphibious Cargo Ship Stricken, to be sunk as target. USS Juneau (LPD-10) Austin Amphibious Transport Dock Inactive, out of commission, in reserve. USNS Navajo (T-ATF-169) Powhatan Fleet ocean tug Stricken. USNS Safeguard (T-ARS-50) Safeguard Salvage Ship Inactive, out of service, in reserve. USS Tarawa (LHA-1) Tarawa Amphibious Assault Ship Inactive, out of commission, in reserve. USS Peleliu (LHA-5) Tarawa Amphibious Assault Ship Inactive, out of commission, in reserve. USS Vandegrift (FFG-48) Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate Stricken, to be sunk as target.
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  4.  @ypaulbrown  Ignoring Lord knows how many battles of the revolution - Stony Point, Monmouth, Kings Mountain, Guilford Courthouse - and the Civil War - Gettysburg, Shiloh,. Chickamauga , Lookout Mountain - to just begin the list.
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