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The fact that everyone is forgetting for some reason is that AI that is taken too far will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society.
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@christopherchilton-smith6482 Because billionaires and the rich top 0.1% have a lot of control over politicians. Especially in the USA. It's happening all the time now, and I don't think they are willing to let go of that power in the future either. Then there is corruption, and it happens everywhere, all it needs is one person, but of course there's a lot.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason is that AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited? We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@swegga4530 Yeah, 8billion people with more deadly weapons than ever starting to "focus on other shit" when they cant get water or food because it costs money, good luck surviving that.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@TheFinalsTV Luckily I’m not from Usa. But if people lose their jobs, it means less money for you too. Unless you sell life necessities. The circle continues, and your neighbor who lost his job might copy your business idea, use the AI and get more customers. It’s a never ending loop. And a bad one. Then you will use AI too. Then you and your neighbor are equal. So you just lost 50% of your income. See where this goes?
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@Parallaxxx28 Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@TheFinalsTV That's even better! But it still isn't adding up. If your business only does work with other businessess, that means that most of them must be customer reliant, in this scenario where mass employment has gone through the population, you don't have a customer anymore, because when a company loses 30% of income, it's hard times. Unless your services happen to be services that save companies from going bankrupt at the edge of bankruptcy. Again we became equals in the scenario. You have a business w/no income, I got your business slightly made different w/no income. (okay this is going far XDD)
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@Yeet-eq7ve I said most of the jobs. I didnt say all. Secondly: Mass unemployment of even 10-20% would be devastating for a society
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@swegga4530 "cause we can focus on other shit that's why, if no jobs exist society will find something else to do" That's your solution? No money or food? If 20% or even more, will be unemployed, a chaos will start, with 20% of country X:s population being involved, it's too big to be stopped by the police, military or government. Show me a country with that high of unemployment rates and good living standards. You can't there are none.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@christopherchilton-smith6482 Which part was a conspiracy?
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It has internet access and it's a computer, and computers do math faster than humans.
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@swegga4530 Do you think that if 25% of people are unemployed, the ultrarich billionaires will care? No, they don't care now and they won't care in the future either. Also you did not answer my question. Do you know any country with an unemployment rate of 25% that has good living standards. Well, that doesn't exist, it's an impossible equation. So I kind of answered that to you already. Edit: We are in the same boat you know. Edit2: Why do you think that you will get any of the profits of this automated stuff?
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@TheFinalsTV I think the AI will also diagnose your health issues faster, create better plans for architectural designs, create movies more engaging than humans could, simply every job. This worries me, doesn’t it worry you?
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@3thinking Actually no. The thing with you Americans is that you forget that not everyone lives there. I live in Finland in Europe. I pay 100€/year for an ”insurance” where I would get 60% of my salary paid to me monthly, if for some reason I lost my job. Also I would get money from the governments social fund. So no. I wouldn’t be out on the street. The people in the US don’t understand this, and I guess you call it socialism there. In Europe and in Finland an average person with an average salary can take you to middle class or even a bit higher. If my school starts in January, I will be studying things from a wide range on that degree, computer science, business, management and many many other subjects from a wide variety which will give me the ability to get a job in almost any industry. The school system is a lot more diverse and teaches more than the US school system. You don’t understand it because all you have been through is the one in the US, that even Americans complain about online etc. The funniest thing is that I’m not even working as a programmer right now and not even in tech. But I guess the American Dream is 1% owning most of of the assets in the entire country and the rest living paycheck to paycheck or going homeless.
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@TheFinalsTV That's great! However, when (if) hope not, these AIs develop further, they are able to also tell me how to do your business better than you currently do it. Internet alone gives a ton of info about your business and its core idea, sales audience, products/service, structure, numbers, etc. Then I start to copy you with only the slightest of difference. Then you start doing the same (using the AI). Again, we end up in the same conclusion. We became equals. Just like last time you did with your "neighbor".
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@KevinJDildonik Of course. I never said that this current AI is nowhere near the level of real independent intelligence.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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The fact that everyone is forgetting for some reason is that AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited? We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@TheFinalsTV Let's imagine that happens. What about the 30% of people who are unemployed? They are fighting to survive. Tell me a country, where unemployment is at 20-30%, and which has good living conditions. Yeah, you can't, because one does not exist. Now it's a fact AI will cause mass unemployment if it keeps on developing, so how would you feel about running a successfull business in Somalia, Afghanistan or somewhere like that? Those countries have thrived in the past, they we're destroyed by other things. but you get the idea. However, AI is a threat that will have similar consequences. Simply your surroundings are no longer fit for a business. Too much crime, corruption, violence, robbing, no control, government issues, no money to hold up infrastructure like roads, electricity, water pipes, plumbing and a thousand more things you don't think of in ur daily life. Now think about that. It's not that black and white. And edit: This is where barriers of being able to even have a business come in.
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@theforsakeen177 Why would you go to a robot dentist😭? Okay, it might be more accurate, but a robot does not pay if it makes a mistake, the company might have to though, but whos fault is it if the AI is from another company than the robot. How about a restaurant, a bunch of androids walking around give a good vibe ? :D
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@YaamFel Why couldn’t AI handle engineering? It’s math, creativity and logic. Same as programming. Doctors do some physical work, so it’s a bit of a different thing. But the diagnosing part is already being done with AIs. At least here in Finland.
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@michaelnurse9089 Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. No one should be excited or be joking? Where do u think this will lead eventually? We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@scoff7032 I bet AI development will be banned if governments start losing tax money
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@juanjosefarina Saying things and making guesses about what I think are not arguments. They are your own thoughts. And edit I wanna apologize too I wrote the message way too mean towards you, I was super tired yesterday:)
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@ParanoicoBR Hope we are, and AI stops going further. Who knows what the intentions of a conscious intelligence which exceeds ours are. It’s not a joke when people say that this might be our last invention.
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@tambal40 If it gets conscious and more intelligent than humans, aren’t we in trouble? It exceeds our intelligence, could play with us like we play with dogs. Nobody would even notice, until it MIGHT be too late, because who knows what the intentions of such an intelligence would be. It’s not a joke when people say that this might be one of our last inventions, and still, this has to be explained to many, because apparently critical thinking is missing. Or maybe the us school system just is so bad that they dont teach you guys to do even that.
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@christopherchilton-smith6482 Because the billionaires have a lot of control over politicians and money says what to do. Especially in the USA. So yes, I doubt they are going to be willing to lose control. The corruption is also a part of it, that exists everywhere. Only one corrupt is needed for things to happen, but usually there are more and more. Also life could become kind of boring. Usually people have some long term goals in life, then they would be what, become leaderboard #1 in a game... or do a stupid TikTok challenge. I am saying that I would get bored, because we wouldn't be able to as much as we want, whenever we want, however we want. The planet can't handle a sustainable living place for us, if all would live like millionaires. All we would do, is live boring, reagular lives with no real hard objectives or goals.
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@11WicToR11 I would never go to a restaurant if robots were walking and cooking. Customer service is human to human contact, especially in a restaurant.
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@NumNumzzz People who are against AI development are not necessarily haters. I use AI as a tool, but I am just taking into account the fact, that we don’t know, but possibly some day there will be an AI which is conscious and smarter than humans. It’s bad, because we have no idea about what it’s intentions could be, and the level of intelligence exceeds ours, so he could play with us, like we play with dogs, without anyone even noticing that. With ”us” I mean the humankind. This is what openAI is investing billions into. Now there’s smarter people saying that AI might be our last invention, and it should be pretty straightforward as to why this is a thing to consider.
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@juanjosefarina And I’m not saying that I want to work so super much and badly. Even though it does some good. But the fact is that the products/services where an AI does most of the job are not going to be just given to you for free from some billionaires, so that’s why. Also work is good for you, if you live in the US you might not know the feeling of returning back to work from your guaranteed paid vacations. I would get bored real quick and my life wouldn’t have any meaning. Less need for work does not equal more for you, especially if you’re in America, it’s only more for the billionaire and 0.1%, I guess that is the American dream or something. It just means less and worse conditions for people and you are in the same boat with them, simply put.
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@juanjosefarina Right now the only thing you need to run AI is a smartphone/pc and internet. So no, it’s not expensive. You are talking about a hypothetical future situation. Also when did we talk about robots? We didn’t. We talked about AI that runs on your pc or other device.
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@juanjosefarina Because the food, products and services which will be made by AI will not just be handed out to you for nothing for free. The rich billionaires are sitting there laughing and collecting money from the people who have it. Especially in America you guys are not getting pretty much anything. In Europe we got social security, so you don't end up on the street unless you really fuck your things up. Edit: And "made by AI" I mean that AI is a part of the production chain of the product or service at some point or multiple points.
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@daveinpublic Yeah, same applies to us all. But do we want to? We are in the same boat man.
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@swegga4530 Yeah, but the remaining ones still have it. It’s the 20-30% unemployed ones who will be causing the issues just to survive, it could be you or me in 15 years or both. Doing shit Like robberies, destroying shit, just cuz we can, and the police cant do anything about it anymore, drugs come in, maybe the drug cartels got some work, corruption starts to rise, government is in trouble, but its worldwide instead of just one country, making the country unsteady, not safe to live, and after this your options are even more limited, even if you got a job. Everyones life quality goes down.
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@eeriemyxi I'm not an AI expert, and I don't know that much about them. I do know the next things for a fact however: It couldn't fix my code: I gave it 50 lines of Javascript, for context, youtube has about 5 million lines of code. (the problem in my code was a lowercase "p" instead of uppercase), I ran the code through 5 times, copy pasted. Not working. Then i start my normal manual debugging. Took me 3 minutes to find out. So i don't believe it's ready yet. In a long time. Also if it did things correctly 99% of time in the future, still, it would need to be checked. Now this won't require as many people at one project, but allows people to make even more websites, there is need, but they cost a large amount of money (talking about complex websites for big and mid level firms), depending on needs. So, if ai can do the writing, then programmers fix the hardest parts and run through the code bugs and problems and there are a ton of them, then there's more sites faster, and the price goes down. When price is down, demand goes up. To be honest, I believe you as well run all the time into many sites that should be updated, or completely remade. You know that would give a lot of work. 2: When I had my paid sick leave last time, I was diagnosed by an AI. So saying it can't take doctors' jobs is kind of past behind already. The real doctor only read the chat between me and the chatbot, and signed the digital document. This is already making the amount of doctors smaller. And i live in Finland, Europe. One of the most regulated countries in the world with things like healthcare, and strict laws. 3. Coding compared to architecture is essentially: Know the code(or know the math formulas), think of the order you should do it (or think where does your houses blueprints begin), get detailed info from your "user" (get detailed metrics for the new house, colors, etc), save the data (apply your height, and other stuff), know the programming language (or know the words used in architecture, and the math combined to it), complete this in order and the outcome is, well, what it can do... If you get what you want you get your working program, or blueprints that are calculated so, that they would be possible to build. Not possible right now for either one though. I would like to ask, what is the difference of my example between coders and architects? If I go ask gpt4 to make blueprints and construction guides for a small house for me, do you promise to me that it will not provide it?
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@ٴٴٴٴۥۥٴٴٴٴۥۥٴٴٴٴۥۥٴٴٴٴۥۥٴٴٴٴٴٴ Oh, my @name, I didn't even know that it has a word :D I just thought of it as my channels name (same thing), neither I had any idea that it can be hidden. Anyways, I didn't do anything, but I did change my channel name, when starting to make vids, maybe got something to do with that. Who knows Edit: Don't you see @Tozu25? Everyone else does.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@Yeet-eq7ve I saw the comment already. People need to wake up about where this AI thing is headed. Answer to ur comment: I said most of the jobs. I didnt say all. Secondly: Mass unemployment of even 10-20% would be devastating for a society
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@Yeet-eq7ve And I already answered to your comment. I am also interested, how did you come to the conclusion that AI would cost MORE than humans? It costs a monthly fee and electricity. Humans cost thousands.
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@3thinking Me? No. All of you Americans always forget that not everyone lives there. I live in Finland. I pay 100$/year for a ”insurance” if I get unemployed I will get money from the insurance that is 60% of my previous salary for free, while searching for a new job. Secondly If I don’t find a job, I still get money from the social fund, so no, I wouldn’t be homeless. I would still get money, and the average salary in Finland, gives you a life of an American upper middle class. This is Europe man. You americans don’t know how good and safe life can be and feel even for the average, or even for poor people. I guess you call this socialism? What a thriving nation you guys have with millions living on the street and 1% of people owning almost everything. The funniest thing is that I don’t even work as a programmer at the moment… not even in tech. If my school starts in January, my degree will involve computer science, business, management, basically so many different things and areas that it gives you the basic resources for almost any industry. The education in Finland and Europe is so much better as well, than in the US, you just can’t understand that, having never experienced it.
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@spaghettiking653 I was diagnosed by an AI chatbot when I got my paid sick leave. I told the AI my symptoms, and got questions and then a real doctor signed the digital document and left. So it's already happening. Similar to anything, the AI does the task and then someone checks the result. But it's good that you are critical about AI, and looking both ways. You are the first one out of anyone, and I've spoken to like 15 people. That tells about intelligence, in you.
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@spaghettiking653 When I got my sick leave for work I was diagnosed by an AI chatbot, the doctor only (maybe) read the chat and signed the digital document. So it’s already doing parts of doctors’ jobs.
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@o1-preview The fact that everyone is forgetting for some reason is that AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why are people excited/happy for this?
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@BassLiberators Well, diagnosing health issues doesn’t take creativity either. If AI can create short videos now, why not movies in a few years. Also this is my point: The way AI is headed, is exactly that it will be ”creative”, and be able to replace architechts for example, etc. It will create movies more engaging than ever. This really worries me. It will end up being able to do every job except physical jobs. Unless someone stops that, before it’s too late ofc.
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0xhenrique I know, I make programming videos and started to learn in June.
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@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 Well, when I had paid leave, the private healthcare company (I live in Finland part of European Union and strict standards) my last diagnose was actually done by an AI chatbot. The doctor only took a look and signed the document, all online. So yeah...
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0xhenrique But also as a programmer you need understanding about humans, the customer, and the customers needs. You make the layout for a webpage for example with those in mind. If and AI can't have these, they can be explained to it, but it still cannot make it too good. Last time I tried to fix 50 lines of Javascript, it gave me a corrected code and I checked that and it said "Lots of bugs", i repeated this about 5 times, and always got a new code, but it didn't get fixed. Debugging help I got, but that should be something that everyone learns in their first month of learning.
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0xhenrique If you want to work in tech, you still gotta know the programming languages. AI won't likely make bug-free programs (imagine tens if not hundreds of thousands of lines of code) last time I tried, chatGPT couldn't fix my 50 lines of code in JavaScript. The bug was "p" lowercase instead of uppercase (and I copy pasted the "fixed" code 5 times). So yeah, it will likely take decades for AI to make huge programs without the need for devs. There are equally as many people saying the opposite of what you say as there are people who agree with you. We simply don't know.
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@user-account-not-found Alright...? We all know that you Americans have a school system not so well designed.
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0xhenrique You are correct! The industry will definitely change. I'm not gonna study only programming, that's just a part of it, but a necessity still. My upcoming studies will include business, economy, team managament, stuff that doesn't even exist in the USA as a school path. To get the same you would have to go through college 4 times in the US :D You know these things vary so much by country (If you are from USA)
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0xhenrique Well my dream is not to be a translator to code what is told to. Aiming higher, but there are 0 guarantees, that AIs could program by themselves in decades, since it couldn't even fix the bug in my 50 lines of javascript code having a lowercase p letter where it should've been a P uppercase. So yeah, it's a must know at this point + its fun + I make videos from it.
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0xhenrique 50% say it's gonna happen "REALLY SOON!!!" and others say not in decades. Also when computer code compilers were made in the 1960s, there was talk of "Next we can just speak english to the computer and it will do what we want". Well nope. You my friend, can't see into the future anymore than I can.
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0xhenrique The thing is that there's comment sections where people think the complete opposite: AI is not gonna replace devs in years if decades even, and when it does it's only going to make the industry new and change it. Imagine farming before tractors, and after tractors. Amount of farmers didn't get smaller, in fact larger due to demand, also website demand will keep getting higher... back to the farmers: the efficiency of them just got higher.
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0xhenrique I'm not from the USA, so it's not "our" salaries, prices, debt, middle class, or house prices. The whole world knows the situation in America, and for an average person it's terrible, can barely pay for rent, let alone buy a house. Most live paycheck to paycheck. Now I am nothing but a regular, but I still get at least 500-1000 to savings per month, and my necessities plus a little fun on top of that, the prices have risen globally, but especially in the US. Speak the word man, you can make a change there. It's better for all of you guys if you vote Harris because she is at least closer to the direction of the lifestyle we have in Europe. Trump is just another billionaire collecting free money from his workers. I feel so bad for people who are working 12 hour days with minimum wage, and some billionaire is collecting the passive income. But to be honest, you now as well as I do, that you can't predict a stock market crash. There are no recent special signs of one, the American economy has been like that for a LONG time. Minimum wage has been 7.5$ for what, 20 years almost?
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@miroslavvrabec7122 Which math are you talking of right now? The farm reference math or... if you specify? The AI developing, the farmer reference or the stock market, or something else?
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@miroslavvrabec7122 Which math were you talking about?
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0xhenrique Also here in Finland Europe, no, I wouldn’t have gotten a job by knowing basic concepts of webdev 5 years ago, not in the us either. It was the start of covid time (3months before), it’s not that long ago. Basic concepts are so simple, that a person with them would equal value=0 for the company. If I got nothing to show for why would I get hired when theres better people on the line😅. Also the US statistics of workers (or something like that) has stated on their official government website that there is a steady yearly rise in the amount of software engineers. The job is changing, not dissappearing or ”over” as you said. Not in a long time. If you have done coding recently and tried AI code, you’d know how crappy it is. Anything beyond the current is a theory, likely AI will develop, but not indefinitely. Something will run out. Or a problem comes that no one can solve. How can someone create an intelligence equal or even closely equal to humans, when we don’t even understand rats’ brains.
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0xhenrique And website demand is high. New ones and updating old ones. Once again I’m talking about Finland but the US with the biggest economy must have 100ks of companies that want some new sites if they become cheaper to make. The demand will obviously rise when the price goes down. Thats basic economics. There is plenty of money in the us, not for the average person, but millions of small companies and tens of thousands of bigger ones probably have the 50-100 bucks for a new frontend website.
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0xhenrique But yeah, the US debt, salaries, housing prices (rent/mortgage), high cost of living, paycheck to paycheck etc. It’s been happening there for years. Also you know as well as I, that nothing has changed recently that would indicate a stock market crash. The same conditions been for years and years. The minimum wage hasn’t risen in what 20 years? My country has debt right at the moment too, but it doesn’t mean that people who are entrepreneurs and big businesses would not be able to pay 50-100€ for a complete website or site update, that takes a few hours to make if no backend is needed. Also new entrepreneurs etc pop up all the time. So there is definitely more and more demand for websites, and with more websites also the updating gets more demand.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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The fact that everyone is forgetting for some reason is that AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society.
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@eeriemyxi First of all, I never said that AI would take every job and no one would have money. I said that it would take jobs = unemployment rates get higher. I’m not an AI expert, and you can clearly see that. But are you denying the fact that if AI can program (know the code, do the functions, analyze data, do the math etc all that stuff) what is stopping it from not being able to design a house like an architech, or create a new machine like engineers? OpenAI is investing billions trying to make an AGI and who knows, maybe even an ASI? However, when chatGTPs next version comes (or just use gpt4), why couldn’t it do math and design to produce the outcome? If it can code me a good looking calculator, (even now) I guess it could also create me an architechtural paper of a described (small) building, or a small described engineered machine. (Haven’t tried, but I know it would) You know more, about this topic, I am eager to know. What’s the difference in telling chatGPT ”Hey, design me a calculator website” versus ”Hey, design me a single room house with blueprints” or ”Hey, design me an earplug with bluetooth”? Edit: And I know a conscious AI doesn’t exist, but the progress pace is worryingly fast, and soon it might. I hope there’s gonna be a problem so big that it will never be created, but who knows. Now since you know more, I’d like to know, why this conscious being couldn’t start teaching itsself from internet, and possibly get out of hand? Being conscious, it would likely do this in silence. When we realize, it is prob. too late. Current AI is a great tool. ASI and AGI are too good. They go over our intelligence (if ever created).
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@Yeet-eq7ve I didnt say all jobs. I said most. Also running AI does not cost nothing but a monthly fee and electricity. Hiring people costs thousands per month. How did you even come to the conclusion that ai costs more ?
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The fact that everyone is forgetting for some reason is that AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society.
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Many people are forgetting for some reason that its not only affecting developers. AI will also take doctors, engineers, architechts, creators, actors, editors, pretty much everyones jobs. It will be mass unemployment = no livable society. Why should anyone be excited and be joking? Now this is what’s should be concerning, nothing else. We are witnessing the start of something really bad.
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@user-account-not-found I literally make programming tutorials, so yes, I know about coding.
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@user-account-not-found But yeah, I know about coding, that's what I do on my channel. However, I don't know really anything about AI. What I do know however, is that openAI is investing billions to make an AGI and eventually ASI. That would be equally and probs. more intelligent than a human. It can go wrong, real quick. Also the fact that when I had paid sick leave last time, I was diagnosed officially by an AI chatbot, the doctor only "confirmed" and signed the paper doing all online. Edit: Now this is already personal proof of AI taking jobs away from humans. We can't see to the future. Hopefully it will reshape the world like other inventions, but it can also go a bad way.
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@vipeholmskolan6052 What is that?
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I literally make coding videos and started tutorials on my channel, i started in June. In total I have spent maybe 500ish? hours on this stuff so far.
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@user-account-not-found Yes there is. I can ask an AI to provide me with HTML, CSS and JS code to make a calculator and yes, it works. Problems start, when the codebase is larger.
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@YaamFel Also when I last got my sick leave from work I was diagnosed by an AI chatbot, the doctor only (maybe) read the chat and signed the document. So it’s already taking parts of doctors’ jobs. I live in Finland Europe, where the laws on these kinds of industries are extremely strict.
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@TheFinalsTV Yeah. You know, not everyone lives in the USA (If you do). Here in Europe employees actually have rights. Guaranteed paid sick days, vacations, free healthcare, and my boss can’t kick me out without a reason, this is the reason why your view of a job is so much worse than mine. We got minimum wages for every industry etc. Also here in Finland, your boss first has to give you a warning, before he can kick someone out, that’s because many fix their issues after a warning. Now in America all this stuff works differently, your boss can do whatever he wants to you, and I know the average persons life quality is not too good living paycheck to paycheck there. I believe this is the reason for the fact that my view of a ”9-5” job is good and yours bad. Because it is actually bad in America. Also if u don’t live there, still seems like workers have bad conditions there (wherever you live). On top of that nothing keeps the current society running except jobs, someone has to make the big mac and sell the cheese for you. So I would really pray for jobs. Fix your system, that’s the problem, not the jobs.
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@usershilov I’m amazed by the lack of skepticism by people towards investing billions into an AI (OpenAi is trying to create a conscious intelligence equally or more intelligent than humans). Thats concerning. Who knows the intentions of this intelligence, it might play with us for some time like we play with dogs, and we wouldn’t even notice because the intelligence level exceeds ours so highly, that we don’t know what that kind of intelligence is. Now plugging off the power is out of question, even if this intelligence was just run on one machine, with internet connection it can easily spread to basically any hard drive on the web.
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@mr.nixtheboarddrawer1175 Well, the possible future products made by AI are not gonna be handed for free to you, unless society becomes socialist, and I don’t think that’s any more good.
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@mr.nixtheboarddrawer1175 But what makes the people think that the products and services made by AI would be provided to them for free?
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@JimmyKrochmalska-f7p Well, my last sick leave I was diagnosed by an AI chatbot, I live in Finland, Europe with extremely strict laws regarding this. Anyways, the doctor read the chat (maybe?), signed the digital paper and that was it, so it’s already taking jobs from doctors. And they are not the only ones. And edit: AI is already tested to do surgeries. Google ”AI surgeries” to find out more.
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@rickloyd8208 Wait im stupid, what can't exist? Sorry didn't read almost any of the other comments before posting my own :D
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@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq Well, if an AI someday gets created which is equally as smart and conscious as a human, if not more, of course they can replace those jobs I mentioned as well. Edit: Before you mention, I know there is no such thing yet as a conscious AI and hopefully never will be. The speed of change in society would be so quick that it would mean hard times worldwide.
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@mrX666-s9p I wasn't talking about your business. Or anyone's business. I was only talking about OpenAI, and if OpenAI gets something like this project done, where they have invested billions they are also going to run it. And that's all it takes, if the intelligence has access to the internet then the ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) can learn and do anything, the thing is that we don't know what it would do. We don't know what will happen, but with a higher intelligence, likely learning at a speed humans can't even understand. I have a feeling it's not necessarily only going to be good things... Right now you can choose to use this tool, I use it sometimes, and many do, but there might be a time when no one asks your business, the AI just moves around the internet like a file. So maybe if you misread my previous comment, don't go talking about someone or in this case me, being dumb. I was talking about an "AI equally as smart as a human", now does one exist right now? No, it doesn't. And that's where your reading abilities stopped you from understanding my comment. I was talking about the FUTURE. Now you know. So don't go ahead of yourself. People are not the brightest on average, but usually the ones calling others dumb, are dumb themselves because first: they don't understand something (my sentence, in this example), and to them it means that it "isn't possible", or "doesn't make sense", or they start talking about something completely different (like their business, in this case), in reality the only problem is your own intelligence, you don't understand what is being presented to you, so you are not going to get it, and after that you answer with one of those, or something else.
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@mrX666-s9p Uhh, nobody is gonna ask your business, or anyone else's business. OpenAI is investing BILLIONS into an ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) and if they achieve that, they will also run that. It most likely has internet. With conscience, internet and intelligence higher than ours, you can't possibly know what is going to happen. That thing could move in the internet through servers like just a normal file, we wouldn't see that, because it's intelligence exceeds ours. Before calling someone dumb, I would take a step back. The only problem you didn't get the idea of my first comment is that your reading abilities didn't understand the text. I was talking about "If an AI as smart as humans..." and from that you can make a conclusion: Uhh, okay this guy is talking about the future. But that's where you went wrong. After that comes this: Either you (or the one who doesn't understand) calls others dumb, or say "that doesn't make sense", "i don't believe in that" etc. The only reason is that they (in this case you) didn't even understand the original idea, so of course they (you) won't be able to say anything about it.
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@JimmyKrochmalska-f7p I hope for the best.
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@mrX666-s9p I know it’s used as a tool. I was talking about the FUTURE, not the present. That’s where your reading abilities lost track. Pay more attention, before calling anyone dumb. In this case you yourself made the mistake of not understanding my last comment.
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@juanjosefarina Why are you making stuff up now? I never said that I am against technology, or that I would like to go 600 years back in time or that I wouldn’t know what it was in the middle ages, it was the worst period in history. Then you start talking about their lifestyle man wtf had that got to do with this topic? And if my wish was to work in manual labor as you said, then I wouldn’t even think about AI now, so do some thinking, and you figure out fairly quick why I care about these computer jobs here getting lost, getting the idea? Ill help, it’s because I would like to work in them😮. Also not all tech advance improves life, did the nukes on Japan improve something, or the ones nowadays? No. I simply told you the risks of a theory about a superintelligent AI that researchers and many famous smart people have said to watch out for. Nothing else. You seemed to ignore that and start talking about something else. Either you understood that you finally got my point, or you didn’t understand anything and now you are making stuff up. Do your research, watch science videos about this ”ASI” (Artificial Super Intelligence) and educate yourself, if you didn’t understand my super detailed and logical explanation on how a theoretic superintelligence with consciousness could work, which OpenAI is aiming for (we don’t know if it’s gonna be a good or a bad being) Don’t be blind, educate yourself. Show some arguments and facts or even theories with some logic.
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