Comments by "" (@Tozu25) on "Fireship"
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0xhenrique I'm not from the USA, so it's not "our" salaries, prices, debt, middle class, or house prices. The whole world knows the situation in America, and for an average person it's terrible, can barely pay for rent, let alone buy a house. Most live paycheck to paycheck. Now I am nothing but a regular, but I still get at least 500-1000 to savings per month, and my necessities plus a little fun on top of that, the prices have risen globally, but especially in the US. Speak the word man, you can make a change there. It's better for all of you guys if you vote Harris because she is at least closer to the direction of the lifestyle we have in Europe. Trump is just another billionaire collecting free money from his workers. I feel so bad for people who are working 12 hour days with minimum wage, and some billionaire is collecting the passive income. But to be honest, you now as well as I do, that you can't predict a stock market crash. There are no recent special signs of one, the American economy has been like that for a LONG time. Minimum wage has been 7.5$ for what, 20 years almost?
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0xhenrique Also here in Finland Europe, no, I wouldn’t have gotten a job by knowing basic concepts of webdev 5 years ago, not in the us either. It was the start of covid time (3months before), it’s not that long ago. Basic concepts are so simple, that a person with them would equal value=0 for the company. If I got nothing to show for why would I get hired when theres better people on the line😅. Also the US statistics of workers (or something like that) has stated on their official government website that there is a steady yearly rise in the amount of software engineers. The job is changing, not dissappearing or ”over” as you said. Not in a long time. If you have done coding recently and tried AI code, you’d know how crappy it is. Anything beyond the current is a theory, likely AI will develop, but not indefinitely. Something will run out. Or a problem comes that no one can solve. How can someone create an intelligence equal or even closely equal to humans, when we don’t even understand rats’ brains.
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@eeriemyxi First of all, I never said that AI would take every job and no one would have money. I said that it would take jobs = unemployment rates get higher. I’m not an AI expert, and you can clearly see that. But are you denying the fact that if AI can program (know the code, do the functions, analyze data, do the math etc all that stuff) what is stopping it from not being able to design a house like an architech, or create a new machine like engineers? OpenAI is investing billions trying to make an AGI and who knows, maybe even an ASI? However, when chatGTPs next version comes (or just use gpt4), why couldn’t it do math and design to produce the outcome? If it can code me a good looking calculator, (even now) I guess it could also create me an architechtural paper of a described (small) building, or a small described engineered machine. (Haven’t tried, but I know it would) You know more, about this topic, I am eager to know. What’s the difference in telling chatGPT ”Hey, design me a calculator website” versus ”Hey, design me a single room house with blueprints” or ”Hey, design me an earplug with bluetooth”?
Edit: And I know a conscious AI doesn’t exist, but the progress pace is worryingly fast, and soon it might. I hope there’s gonna be a problem so big that it will never be created, but who knows. Now since you know more, I’d like to know, why this conscious being couldn’t start teaching itsself from internet, and possibly get out of hand? Being conscious, it would likely do this in silence. When we realize, it is prob. too late. Current AI is a great tool. ASI and AGI are too good. They go over our intelligence (if ever created).
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@TheFinalsTV Yeah. You know, not everyone lives in the USA (If you do). Here in Europe employees actually have rights. Guaranteed paid sick days, vacations, free healthcare, and my boss can’t kick me out without a reason, this is the reason why your view of a job is so much worse than mine. We got minimum wages for every industry etc. Also here in Finland, your boss first has to give you a warning, before he can kick someone out, that’s because many fix their issues after a warning. Now in America all this stuff works differently, your boss can do whatever he wants to you, and I know the average persons life quality is not too good living paycheck to paycheck there. I believe this is the reason for the fact that my view of a ”9-5” job is good and yours bad. Because it is actually bad in America. Also if u don’t live there, still seems like workers have bad conditions there (wherever you live). On top of that nothing keeps the current society running except jobs, someone has to make the big mac and sell the cheese for you. So I would really pray for jobs. Fix your system, that’s the problem, not the jobs.
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@mrX666-s9p I wasn't talking about your business. Or anyone's business. I was only talking about OpenAI, and if OpenAI gets something like this project done, where they have invested billions they are also going to run it. And that's all it takes, if the intelligence has access to the internet then the ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) can learn and do anything, the thing is that we don't know what it would do. We don't know what will happen, but with a higher intelligence, likely learning at a speed humans can't even understand. I have a feeling it's not necessarily only going to be good things... Right now you can choose to use this tool, I use it sometimes, and many do, but there might be a time when no one asks your business, the AI just moves around the internet like a file.
So maybe if you misread my previous comment, don't go talking about someone or in this case me, being dumb. I was talking about an "AI equally as smart as a human", now does one exist right now? No, it doesn't. And that's where your reading abilities stopped you from understanding my comment. I was talking about the FUTURE. Now you know.
So don't go ahead of yourself. People are not the brightest on average, but usually the ones calling others dumb, are dumb themselves because first: they don't understand something (my sentence, in this example), and to them it means that it "isn't possible", or "doesn't make sense", or they start talking about something completely different (like their business, in this case), in reality the only problem is your own intelligence, you don't understand what is being presented to you, so you are not going to get it, and after that you answer with one of those, or something else.
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@mrX666-s9p Uhh, nobody is gonna ask your business, or anyone else's business. OpenAI is investing BILLIONS into an ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) and if they achieve that, they will also run that. It most likely has internet. With conscience, internet and intelligence higher than ours, you can't possibly know what is going to happen. That thing could move in the internet through servers like just a normal file, we wouldn't see that, because it's intelligence exceeds ours.
Before calling someone dumb, I would take a step back. The only problem you didn't get the idea of my first comment is that your reading abilities didn't understand the text. I was talking about "If an AI as smart as humans..." and from that you can make a conclusion: Uhh, okay this guy is talking about the future. But that's where you went wrong.
After that comes this: Either you (or the one who doesn't understand) calls others dumb, or say "that doesn't make sense", "i don't believe in that" etc.
The only reason is that they (in this case you) didn't even understand the original idea, so of course they (you) won't be able to say anything about it.
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@juanjosefarina Why are you making stuff up now? I never said that I am against technology, or that I would like to go 600 years back in time or that I wouldn’t know what it was in the middle ages, it was the worst period in history. Then you start talking about their lifestyle man wtf had that got to do with this topic?
And if my wish was to work in manual labor as you said, then I wouldn’t even think about AI now, so do some thinking, and you figure out fairly quick why I care about these computer jobs here getting lost, getting the idea? Ill help, it’s because I would like to work in them😮.
Also not all tech advance improves life, did the nukes on Japan improve something, or the ones nowadays? No.
I simply told you the risks of a theory about a superintelligent AI that researchers and many famous smart people have said to watch out for. Nothing else. You seemed to ignore that and start talking about something else. Either you understood that you finally got my point, or you didn’t understand anything and now you are making stuff up. Do your research, watch science videos about this ”ASI” (Artificial Super Intelligence) and educate yourself, if you didn’t understand my super detailed and logical explanation on how a theoretic superintelligence with consciousness could work, which OpenAI is aiming for (we don’t know if it’s gonna be a good or a bad being) Don’t be blind, educate yourself. Show some arguments and facts or even theories with some logic.
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