Comments by "Dark Jack" (@darkjack9021) on "What’s it like being a Muslim in Japan ?" video.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 "islam never teaches reciprocity" Finally! You admit it.
"it's lack of reciprocity from side of other groups." Reciprocity doesn't work like this. Each religion place a cursor for reciprocity. The cursor of reciprocity in Islam is very weak. And what are the consequences? Instability with others cultures. It works like this. The more reciprocity is high, the less instability is.
You can find three types of reciprocity:
Positive reciprocity: being tolerant with every cultures, and no violence. All of us
Negative reciprocity: law of retaliation (an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth). Us and Them.
Non-reciprocity: Others are problems because they aren't like us. Us vs Them.
Sorry but Al Queada, Isis, Taliban are Muslims. They read Qur'an and justify their actions with Qur'an (warrior verses & Jihad). Indeed, the majority of victims of theirs attacks are Muslims. It's true. And they don't care. Because Allah allowed fear and war, if necessary. They interpret this vision to punish "lost Muslims" and to apply a radical Islam. I agree with you: they are dangerous.
The world needs love and reciprocity. Sorry again...
What is the common point between Stalin, Hitler, Benito, etc.? Answer: Non-reciprocity in their ideology.
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@Takashii This is what contains Islam. Read it, please.
2-6, 7 But the Unbelievers do not believe, whether thou warnest them or not, they will never believe.
Allah has sealed their hearts and their ears, and a thick veil covers their sight, and for them is a great punishment.
2-40: O children of Israel, remember My blessing with which I have blessed you. If you keep your commitments to Me. I will keep mine. And it is I whom you should fear.
2-106: If We abrogate any verse or cause it to be forgotten, We bring a better one, or one like it. Knowest thou not that Allah is Omnipotent?
Explanation: Locked religion. No criticism.
2-161, 162 &163 Those who disbelieve and die disbelieving, will receive the curse of Allah from the angels and from all men.
They will dwell therein forever; the punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be given respite.
And your Godhead is one Godhead. There is no god but He, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
47-3, 5 & 8 This is so because those who disbelieved followed the false and those who believed followed the Truth from their Lord. This is how Allah offers their examples to people.
When you meet (in battle) those who disbelieve, strike their neck. Then when you have overcome them, bind them firmly. Then it is either free release or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. So it is, for if Allah wills. He Himself would take vengeance on them, but it is to test one another. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will never make their deeds vain.
He will guide them and improve their condition.
And as for those who disbelieve, there will be an evil for them, and He will make their deeds vain.
47-36
The present life is but play and amusement; whereas if you believe and fear Allah, He will grant you your rewards and will not ask you for your possessions.
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@khwael1512
Don't confuse Christianity and Old Testament, neither Christianity and Church. You can't find non-reciprocity in Christianity (I'm waiting if you find it). Atheism is not a religion. Don't confuse humanity (aggressive specie and colonial) and religion. I'm talking about religion as a system. It's funny you justify non-reciprocity in Islam by comparisons...
Here some verses, in Qur'an. Tell me, this is reciprocity? No.
2-6, 7 But the Unbelievers do not believe, whether thou warnest them or not, they will never believe.
Allah has sealed their hearts and their ears, and a thick veil covers their sight, and for them is a great punishment.
2-40: O children of Israel, remember My blessing with which I have blessed you. If you keep your commitments to Me. I will keep mine. And it is I whom you should fear.
2-106: If We abrogate any verse or cause it to be forgotten, We bring a better one, or one like it. Knowest thou not that Allah is Omnipotent?
Explanation: Locked religion. No criticism.
2-161, 162 &163 Those who disbelieve and die disbelieving, will receive the curse of Allah from the angels and from all men.
They will dwell therein forever; the punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be given respite.
And your Godhead is one Godhead. There is no god but He, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
47-3, 5 & 8 This is so because those who disbelieved followed the false and those who believed followed the Truth from their Lord. This is how Allah offers their examples to people.
When you meet (in battle) those who disbelieve, strike their neck. Then when you have overcome them, bind them firmly. Then it is either free release or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. So it is, for if Allah wills. He Himself would take vengeance on them, but it is to test one another. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will never make their deeds vain.
He will guide them and improve their condition.
And as for those who disbelieve, there will be an evil for them, and He will make their deeds vain.
47-36
The present life is but play and amusement; whereas if you believe and fear Allah, He will grant you your rewards and will not ask you for your possessions.
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@khwael1512 Jesus = the New Testament, in case you don't know. What does the New Testament mean? A New Alliance between God and humans, this time universal. The philosophy of the new text supersedes the old one. Please study at least the Christian theology, instead of being clever and confusing everything (Islam makes a lot of confusion about the actors of Christianity. Would Mohammed have been mistaken in his great wisdom?). Christianity has a reciprocity, what we could call, "positive": turning the other cheek in the face of violence (to cut the ground from under the foot). Indeed, the Old Testament is based on the Law of Retaliation (very violent). No passage in the New Testament calls for contempt for unbelievers, unlike Islam (about 600 verses). Find me one passage in the New Testament. Just one.
The author of Christianity is Saint Paul for your general culture, not the Church. The Church is only its institutional form incapable of correctly applying Christ's message of "perfect" reciprocity: love one another, and be tolerant of everything, including intolerance (the weak point of Christianity).
To understand how a culture thinks, you can methodologically take its founding myth, see the reciprocity in it, and analyze it. You can contextualize all you want, Islam does not deal with reciprocity. You will not find it because it does not exist. Monotheism should have seen the appearance of 1) Islam (non-reciprocity), Judaism (negative reciprocity), Christianity (positive reciprocity). The appearance of Islam in the last position is a regression towards reciprocity. As a matter of fact, Muslim countries have been characterized in their history by their inability to establish links with the outside world. Even today, this is a sorry spectacle. In short, Islam is a locked religion. And that is why it is so effective, but also unstable when other cultures cohabit with it.
Sincerely yours.
PS : lol.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 Intelligence without lucidity is useless, dear Sameera.
Edit: how can you judge the level of philosophy of someone if you don't speak it? What is philosophy, Sameera? I'ill tell you what is.
Philosophy is, among other things, an aspiration to knowledge. Plato's Socrates describes in the "Trial" that the source of knowledge lies within us, in other words the physical world. We do not have to rely on the metaphysical world for this. As a consequence, humans must also rely on their physical strength, not on metaphysical strength. In short, what Socrates teaches us is "let's build your world". Be ethical.The answer is within you.
Question for you, because you're so clever and know everything. What is the main difference between Plato and Aristotle, his pupil? I'm waiting. And what is the main difference between the philosophy of Greece and China? Both of which appeared at about the same time, in the 4th century BC. And what concept is absent from Chinese philosophy today? (clue: psychology).
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 Freud saw psychonalysis as a scientist (scientism). Not a hermeunetic approach. Not at all. This discipline is individual and universal.
Individual means = the story of the subject and his problems. He is looking for consolation. That's why we can see psychoanalysis as a "historical psychology of the subject".
Universal = the unconscious, the body. Here comes lucidity. We're animals with instincts (libido).
If you have not understood the importance of the tear, you have not understood anything about psychoanalysis. And you are doing useless and interminable therapies.
Also, you can use psychoanalysis in therapy and as a epistemological vision (all human sciences are Freudian. Few examples: Durkheim, Levi-Strauss, Bourdieu, Libet, even Artificial Intelligence like Anella).
My teacher is psychoanalyst. He was the pupil of Jacques Lacan. Maybe you know that name, I'm pretty sure.
It's good to have a little knowledge. Now it's about developing your sensitivity and intelligence to the size of your readings. But also, connect the dotted lines together. You've pulled out a premade university course on psychoanalysis. It's not very good.
You don't have the level, yet.
PS: Yeah, and Freud took some drugs, too.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 Sura 109, (Early period, mekkan) Mohammed was weak, he had only a few followers at that time. Muslims in minority. Proclaiming peace and tolerance. Verse 6
"For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
Sura 2, (middle period, medinian, shortly after the hijra) Mohammed grew stronger. Proclaiming defensive Djihad. Only fight if you get attacked or someone insult lslam or Mohammed:
Verses 190-193 "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until]) worship is lacknowledged to bel for Allah. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."
Sura 9, (the last one of the large suras in the Quran. Written after Mohammed conquered Mekkah) Muslims in majority. Final commands, abrogating the earliers. Proclaiming offensive Djihad. Fight those who dont believe in Allah, just because they dont believe in Allah. Verses 29-31 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - (fight) urntil they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."
The later abrogates the earlier: Quran 2,106 We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?
Quran 16,101 And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]" But most of them do not know.
Narrated lbn Umar:
Allah's Messenger () said: have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Messenger (), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 25In-book reference: Book 2, Hadith 18USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol.1, Book 2, Hadith 25 (deprecated numbering scheme) While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet () came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 3167In-book reference: Book 58, Hadith 9USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 392 (deprecated numbering scheme)
narrated abu huraira: the verse:--"you (true muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace lslam. usc-msa web (english) reference: vol. 6, book 60, hadith 80arabic reference: book 65, hadith 4557
It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said:
"The Messenger of Allah [SAw] said: Whoever changes his religion, kill him!"
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference: Sunan an-Nasai 4061 In-book reference: Book 37, Hadith 96English translation :Vol. 5, Book 37, Hadith 4066
Bonus: 2-6, 7 But the Unbelievers do not believe, whether thou warnest them or not, they will never believe.
Allah has sealed their hearts and their ears, and a thick veil covers their sight, and for them is a great punishment.
2-40: O children of Israel, remember My blessing with which I have blessed you. If you keep your commitments to Me. I will keep mine. And it is I whom you should fear.
2-106: If We abrogate any verse or cause it to be forgotten, We bring a better one, or one like it. Knowest thou not that Allah is Omnipotent?
Explanation: Locked religion. No criticism.
2-161, 162 &163 Those who disbelieve and die disbelieving, will receive the curse of Allah from the angels and from all men.
They will dwell therein forever; the punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be given respite.
And your Godhead is one Godhead. There is no god but He, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
47-3, 5 & 8 This is so because those who disbelieved followed the false and those who believed followed the Truth from their Lord. This is how Allah offers their examples to people.
When you meet (in battle) those who disbelieve, strike their neck. Then when you have overcome them, bind them firmly. Then it is either free release or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. So it is, for if Allah wills. He Himself would take vengeance on them, but it is to test one another. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will never make their deeds vain.
He will guide them and improve their condition.
And as for those who disbelieve, there will be an evil for them, and He will make their deeds vain.
47-36
The present life is but play and amusement; whereas if you believe and fear Allah, He will grant you your rewards and will not ask you for your possessions.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 "
Claude Lévi-Strauss, anthropologist (1955)
(...) I know only too well the reasons for this uneasiness felt in the vicinity of Islam: I find in it the universe from which I come; Islam is the West of the East. More precisely still, I had to meet Islam to measure the peril that threatens French thought today. I do not forgive the first one for presenting me our image, for obliging me to notice how much France is becoming Muslim. (...) If, however, a France of forty-five million inhabitants were to open up widely on the basis of equal rights, in order to admit twenty-five million Muslim citizens, even a large proportion of them illiterate, it would not be taking a bolder step than that to which America owed the fact that it did not remain a small province of the Anglo-Saxon world. (...) they made and won a wager whose stakes are as high as the one we refuse to risk.
Can we ever do it? By adding up, do two regressive forces see their direction reversed? (...) [I]n Taxila, in these Buddhist monasteries that the Greek influence has made budding with statues, I am confronted with this fleeting chance that our Old World had to remain one; the split is not yet accomplished. Another destiny is possible, the one, precisely, that Islam forbids by erecting its barrier between a West and an East which, without it, would perhaps not have lost their attachment to the common ground where they plunge their roots. (...)
(...) it is the other misfortune of the Western conscience that Christianity (...) appeared "before the letter" - too early (...) ) is the middle term of a series destined by its internal logic, by geography and history, to develop henceforth in the direction of Islam; since the latter - the Moslems triumph on this point - represents the most evolved form of religious thought without being the best; I would even say by being for this reason the most worrying of the three [Buddhism, Christianity and Islam]. (...)
Today, it is over Islam that I contemplate India; but that of Buddha, before Mohammed who, for me European and because European, stands between our reflection and the doctrines which are the closest to it like the rustic impediment of a round where the hands predestined to join, of the East and the West were by him disunited. What a mistake I was going to make, following those Moslems who proclaim themselves Christians and Westerners and place in their East the border between the two worlds! (...) The rational evolution is the opposite of that of history: Islam has cut in two a more civilized world. What seems to him to be current belongs to a bygone era, he lives in a millennial gap. It has been able to accomplish a revolutionary work; but as it was applied to a retarded fraction of humanity, by seeding the real it has sterilized the virtual: it has determined a progress that is the reverse of a project."
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 Atheism is not a religion. There is no text. You thesis is wrong. Even Atheists are not really atheists because their language are built on a spiritual history, a culture. Example: in the West, we continue to speak as Christians, even Atheists (they just don't believe in Heaven or Hell or God). Your thesis is weak. If you want to understand Hitler, read Nazism. By the way, some Muslims countries defended Hitler. I'll let you guess why.
Sorry but Anthropology classed monotheism like this:
Positive reciprocity: Christianity
Negative Reciprocity: Judaism
Non- Reciprocity: Islam.
Remember what wrote Levi-Strauss, above. And don't tell me "But, he was a jew".
I don't speak about government or other thing. Just the core of each text. because the text is the language, thoughts of a culture. Everything flows from that. Specially the question of the reciprocity.
You can continue to argue what you want. You cannot change the Qur'an.
EDIT: Yes, and the genocide of Armenians was commit by Atheists, too? Stop taking me for a fool.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 Gods are superstitions. Don't you know? It's always the same schema: humans create God(s), then reverse (God(s) creates Humans). Maybe there is a divinity somewhere, something like an "architect". But there is none message. There is none prophet. It's only a performative artifice to build a civilization. The power of the language, in others words. And every culture want to be the (good) One. Cause the voice of God doesn't exist. Only a silence world in which we see a paranoid intention. That's why sometimes, there is One God. Other time, 50. God is only a theorization to fill our ignorance and this unbearable silence when we put it on this world that says nothing. Maybe there is a creator. MAYBE. All religion is a game of the possible on this "Maybe".
The eradication of superstitions is from Sir Edward Tylor, father of modern anthropology. We're study mankind like aliens.
Atheism is not a "non-reciprocity" speech. It's just "I don't believe in superstitions". The non-reciprocity, if there is one, does not come from atheism because nothing poses it. It depends on the culture or the environment to which one belongs (Nazism, sovietism, communism, liberalism, etc.). Whereas in a religious text, it can be measured objectively. And in the case of Islam the measure is strong.
Yes, the future will be harsh for your religion. Of course you don't like atheism. They are miscreants. And Allah hates them since the beginning.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 "About anthropology , studying human beings like an alien? Seriously? The studies on mankind shows that since the beginning of human civilizations humans believed in god."
Anthropology takes humans as object. The question is here "Why since the beginning of mankind humans believe in God(s) ?" The answer is simple: humans need answer in a silence world. They're looking for. Always. But the answer is always the same: no response from the Nature. So they create it and inverse it. A religion is not only God, it's why the world is like this... the relations between elements (sun, moon, women, men, night, day, etc.)... Us and others (humans, animals, etc.) : the reciprocity.
"Atheism contains no reciprocity, even though you don't believe in religions but you can't deny this Atheism has no reciprocity for religious cultures."
As I said, you can't demonstrate what you say. Cause there is no text. It's just an "exit". I know that in Islam you can't do it: apostasy will result on death and reject (beautiful attitude one more time). You take some examples here and here, without context. Nazism used old religious signs. SS wrote divine sentences on their dagger. In short.
What I am saying is that all religion is a human tinkering. It is not a lie. It is an anthropological observation. That there is a demiurge deity is one thing. That a human text is divinely true is something else. It is a belief. A hypothesis. A theory among countless other beliefs that have emerged on Earth. The human needs to fill the void of silence. Religion is a tinkering of nature, in that sense.
Now, the question is to know if these tinkerings are compatible. For that, we observe the cursor of reciprocity and open-mindedness. On this point, Islam is dangerous. You are locked. You are submissive. And you can't bear to be told that you are an artificial religion among others.
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@sameerasiddiqui5159 I'm just lucid and I know perfectly what I am: a talking animal belonging to aggressive, colonial, social, robust and paranoid specie, but with technological genius (computer, robots, IA, etc.). To say that things are bad does not require a therapist, it is just the mark of lucidity. Thx for your attention.
It's sad to say but the future of mankind is China. Because they're taking seriously modern issues (global warming, capitalism, resentment, migrations, artificial intelligence, etc.). The West is too individualist and prefer freedom than ethics. The world needs harmony more than ever. No time to lose with some religions. The situation is far too urgent.
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