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Comments by "" (@shadebug) on "Emily Thornberry On How Labour Can Save The UK | Pod Save The UK" video.
Labour is not the green party and Emily Thornberry has demonstrated a fundamental misunderstanding of what green politics is. It is not about environmentalism, it's about rational politics, which happens to include the environment
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Coco, one of the reasons that you've never voted for a party that won is that Labour refuses to play nice with the rest of the left wing parties and laughs down the idea of coalition, claiming that they are a coalition themselves (we don't need a coalition, we have a coalition at home, if you will). In 2010 you could have had a labour-lead coalition but they refused to go into coalition with the SNP so we got the con-dem nation which lead to nobody supporting a switch to AV (largely because Labour refused to support it) and, critically, lead to the tories realising they could get power by making insignificant promises to small parties, insignificant promises like promising to hold a non-binding referendum on EU membership. We cannot be giving Labour a free pass
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That Keir Starmer is only at his best talking about crime is such an indictment of a labour leader. Labour leaders should be at their best talking about healthcare, housing, unions and all the things that will make the whole country better, not about finding scapegoats and pandering to the fear machine
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@ActuallyJamesS it certainly is but it’s also either a calculated attack on the Greens to make them seem one note and inconsequential or it’s a complete lack of caring about left wing politics. Man on the street can use the common version, prominent left wing politician in a left wing political podcast cannot
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@T3cadeus Yeah, after the anti-semitism accusations last time round, this is not something they can afford to get partially right
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But Labour won't back that. You heard her, she just laughs at the mention of other parties and that's the attitude that got us the 2010 government
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@andromidius yeah, we’ve not have a left wing government since the 70s but they are, in name, a left wing party and we have to force them to be what they’re supposed to be
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For the tactical voting question, look at where you are. If your constituency is a done deal then vote how you feel. If it's contentious between progressive parties then vote how you feel. If there's a chance that the Tories are getting the seat then you vote for the best positioned progressive party.
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@bigslydoc the worst thing is that as much as the tories and Labour both claim that FPTP is the best, whenever they have the opportunity to create a new electoral system, say when building an EU or devolving power to a Scottish government, they don’t use FPTP. They’re fully telling on themselves and nobody calls them out on it
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Baseball is cricket for cooler people? It's rounders for self conscious dads
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@Teramin1 our ideal situation has to be forcing a coalition. Luckily the Lib Dems have a good position at the moment so our real problem is what will happen to the SNP and their votes. If Labour just wins a majority then we’re screwed. We’ll have a Starmer government which does nothing interesting and we’ll swing right back to the tories because they won’t have fixed the electoral system
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Bloody hell, Labour may have lost the last election because of failing to stand up to anti-semitism and now she's just doubling down on colour blind attack ads instead of realising that dog-whistles need to be stifled wherever they may be and leaving themselves open to anti-south asian attacks
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The coalition of the left? The leadership has shot down electoral reform when it was resoundingly voted for by the membership. The Labour leadership hates coalition and until they get behind coalition British politics will stay Tory. We've been a Tory country for over 40 years now and if Labour doesn't get behind electoral reform then we will be Tories for the foreseeable
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