Comments by "Archangel17" (@MDP1702) on "The EU Divided Over Coronavirus: Will it Lead to an Italexit? Will Italy Leave the EU? - TLDR News" video.

Belgium is reporting every death (corona or not) in elderly homes, increasing the number by a lot. Recent studies based on excess deaths compared to other years show that belgium is overreporting a bit, while other nations are underreporting, sometimes by a lot.
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@mavetek Printing money wouldn't help you. Sure in the short term, but not in the long term? No, the negative impact from this would be disastrous. Only countries with a strong currency would be able to manage it, and Italy didn't have a strong currency before the euro. The main problem is that Italy has a bad rep on the loan market, thus has to lend at a higher rate than many other countries. In the end Italy is asking for help, but at the same time doesn't want to "give anything up". Would Italy just give money to Germany in such a case? Ofcourse not. This is the main problem with euroscpetic countries. They don't want more europe, but in a crisis expects europe to help them. When the EU doesn't because they don't have the authority/capability due to the power remaining with the memberstates, they blame the EU. They blame it for not helping, but forget that they are the reason the EU can't easily help.
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They don't? They waived the that requirement for this crisis. And it is logically that you'd otherwise require countries to do something, otherwise it can be and endless pit. Though other countries also don't want to be left holding the bag filled with debt at the end of this either. Just like Italy wouldn't.
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@gewreid5946 You do know that a lot of money from the marshal plans were loans that had to be paid back, right? Basically it would be similar to what the EU already offered Italy with the SME and which Italy refused, afraid of what the consequences would be when they couldn't pay it back. That is also a main difference between a marshall plan and what is happening now. The marshall plan was intended to revitalise economies, currently it would just be about minimizing the damage.
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@IwanBoksebeld The numbers in Belgium seem bad because of the way they are counted (at least for dead rate). Every person dying in an elderly home, whether it is corona related or not are being counted in the total. This likely skews the amount of deaths by quite a lot. For perspective, around half of deaths in Belgium are in elderly homes, and only a 100-200 have been verified corona cases. In fact recent studies who look at excess deaths compared to other years show that Belgiums excess deaths are slightly lower than what is reported. Many other countries/regions however are underreporting the numbers of corona deaths based on that research.
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@javierslytherin9898 Deaths per capita Spain is worse.
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So basically, the EU isn't capable of properly responding to a crisis like this due to a lack of intergation and the power remaining with the memberstates. And the choice would be to leave instead of further integrate and improving the EU? How would leaving help you in the next crisis? Wouldn't it make more sense to make the EU more capable of dealing with crisis like this? Oh, wait, it are exactly governments like those in Italy that are completely against further integration.
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@LonewolfGaming1 Very often people wouldn't be divided along national lines, but rather ideological. The main differences are in regionalised ideology, which is a problem in many nations already existing. Scaling this up doesn't necessarily increase the disadvantage. Also you focus on things that would be really logical to be on the EU level, like energy, outer border security, environment, ...
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@javierslytherin9898 But nevertheless how you compare nations.
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@javierslytherin9898 So how would you compare nations?
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