Comments by "Reformed Sauron" (@ReformedSauron) on "Shelve the National Divorce Bullshit, Dawg" video.

@cedricrust9953 first of all it would not eliminate that concept. Secondly that is not the point of the electoral college, despite the fact of that concept existing in this country. I suggest you watch the razorfist videos both of the electoral college and his argument for State electoral colleges.
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It sounds pretty defeatist buy a lot of people who haven't tried their fullest in the grassroots efforts. There is no such thing as a peaceful National divorce in this country. The one time it was actually really tried was not peaceful, and the several times it was attempted before that it was defused.
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 @lordthunderchicken4636 Statehood for Puerto Rico in exchange for a new state carved out of a blue state perhaps?
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 @username65585 they did the same thing for gay marriage and federal abortion and guns laws several times until one day it was not. Scotus decisions are not permanent in countless cases.
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Have fun being steamrolled by a foreign state.
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@robfarrell9104 if you haven't gone up and down any grassroots work your blackpilling is just laziness. By the way we've been living under the burden of a 30% income tax minimum for decades and they revolted over a 3% tax. If you are correct in this they've been ashamed of you and your parents and grandparents for a long time.
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@la7127 if you ever thought of peaceful separation was possible in this country I'm afraid you've been deluding yourself. Perhaps people should try other outlets first before they start shooting.
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This.
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@cedricrust9953 we were never a democracy. No founding document of ours refers to us as such. Not only that but throughout the founders writings you will find nothing but absolutely disgusting condemnation for the concept of democracy as a system of government. That's something they are not going to teach you much in school. They viewed it as evil- tyranny just in another form. Tyranny of the majority made manifest. There is no perfect government system, I'll give you that, but a republic is significantly better than a democracy. If you watch those videos (and I will help you watch them both) he will understand that our system was not enshrined over voting but rather liberty with voting merely being a process within it. A bunch of countries are Unitarian States... We are a federal state therefore giving us an advantage with an electoral college rather than straight-up popular vote. This country with an electoral college will inevitably result in some sort of dissolution of the union. No state will put up with a straight-up popular vote for POTUS outside of the handful of population powerhouses. In fact I would argue that governorships should be based on a county-by-county electoral college within their borders as well. Why should Chicago dominate a the rest of the states they are in that are significantly different outside their cities without at least it being competitive? This would not necessarily make a blue state or red state but it would at least give opposition within both blue AND red strongholds an actual fighting chance. It is beneficial for Democrats living in red States as well as Republicans living in blue states, not by flipping it on its head but enabling the likelihood of healthy competition. An electoral college makes it at least a somewhat even playing field for both urban and rural as well as for both sides of the aisle. With respect I do think you need to watch those videos. He's a bit crass but it gets the point across.
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Not just a state electoral college for the national-level but for governors as well. This means an organ she would probably still win basin the sheer proportion living in the Portland area but at least it would be a lot closer. There would actually be a chance of some opposition success at the governorship.
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Needs approval by all states involved as well as approved by Congress
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When your child or someone you love is dying in your arms... Will you still tell yourself such a divorce- which would of course not be peaceful- is not as bad? I'm not trying to be pushy, it's just food for thought. It's easy to be flippant on the internet.
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@Faken Namel so when do we start shooting?
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That's an interesting concept. It would definitely help to some extent with the urban-rural divide. However you'd end up with more city-states than actual states at that point. The electoral college would totally the lopsided astronomically one way all the time. And that's if we are under the assumption Congress and the States involved in such a split would allow it in the first place. Now there's definitely a case for cutting off NYC from the rest of New York and so for Chicago based on the majority of the both of those States population thing situated in those two metros whilst dominating otherwise fairly rural states, but in a place like Texas it wouldn't work for Houston as it is at least fairly well-matched by various other medium-sized towns, small-size towns, plenty of rural population and even other cities. So the only way I think this could work is if it had to do with not the number, but rather the proportion.
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More of this. Perhaps allow them to carve anew stayed out of a blue state if Puerto Rico is given statehood. We have options that are more than just either voting or shooting.
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@donkeysaurusrex7881 you seem to think that the only thing you are capable I've doing to effect changes either shoot or vote. Sounds pretty narrow-minded and lazy. If you're that blackpilled you aren't going to do very well in an actual Civil War.
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@No No you say that now... but this is the internet. Perhaps we should exhaust every other option first.
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 @brandnew4451 and you think the neocons won't control this theoretical new country. You think there won't be Dems in power there as well? 🙄
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