Comments by "Wundurra" (@wundurra24) on "No Tory leader candidate can match Boris Johnson's popularity, says political commentator" video.
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@christee9590 "Indigenous British people". Who do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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@xzenderx Johnson was fired by The Times for inventing a quote from his godfather, the historian Sir Colin Lucas.
Johnson made his name by filing absurd, because largely untrue, reports from Brussels about the apparent iniquities of the European Union.
He entered politics on a lie -- having promised when he took on the editorship of the Spectator magazine that he had no ambitions to become an MP, he did just that.
He lied to his many wives, girlfriends and mistresses. He lied about his children (it is unclear how many he has).
From his first resignation from the Conservative's top team in 2004, after lying to then-party leader Michael Howard about his relationship with the journalist Petronella Wyatt, to his lies this year over the scandal involving parties (not the singular “a bloody petty party” you claim) during the strictest period of the Lockdown, when other Britons were unable to visit dying relatives.
Johnson attempted to rewrite the House of Commons rulebook to save the skin of the obviously compromised Tory MP Owen Paterson for inappropriately lobbying in return for cash.
Johnson lied about Pincher.
There never was an “oven-ready”, he did not "get Brexit done". He lied about the Brexit deal that would bring fabulous opportunity to Britain. The promises in the leave campaign of which Johnson was the main actor and driver – that trade with the EU would continue as before, that Britain could have its cake and eat it, that vast savings on the EU budget would be redirected to public services, notably the NHS – were false. Johnson did what Theresa May thought no British PM would ever do and put a border in the Irish Sea. He lied about it. Then when the lies stopped working proposed breaking the international treaty he had agreed to a mere two years before.
Johnson vaingloriously boasting of his achievements that are nothing of the sort. Johnson proclaims the UK led the world in its response to Covid, which it could not have done within the EU. Wrong. So far 181,000 have died in Britain – a Covid death rate per million above France, Germany, Italy, Spain and most of the EU and caused by being consistently too late to lockdown and too quick to exit – Johnson in thrall to the libertarian wing of the Tory party. No EU rule would have inhibited any UK government from striking the deals it did over vaccine production and for supportive medical equipment. Where Britain did climb new heights has been in breathtaking levels of corruption, as Tory donors and sympathisers had their paths smoothed to lush contracts with no process or accountability.
What of the above is “petty crap and nonsense”?
“Dishonest incidents” does not go anywhere, not even close, to describing what Johnson has done throughout his adult life and time in politics. The real question is why would someone support such a person knowing who he was and then continue to support him as the scandals and examples of incompetence mounted?
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@xzenderx You misunderstood The Boy Who Cried Wolf fable, the meaning of which is to make false claims, with the result that subsequent true claims are disbelieved. Johnson’s case is the nothing like that – people pointed out Johnson was a liar, those claims were known to be true when they were made.
You challenged me to name a single lie. I provided an extensive list, none of which are contestable. You glibly dismissed this as “petty”.
You pompously claimed people “misunderstood” Johnson’s simplistic “Oven Ready Deal” claim. I asked you to explain how. You refused to do so.
You state “in reality they have the legal right to tell the EU to bugger off and sort out the problem”. Why should the EU? It’s the UK’s problem, one of our own creation. You’re a typical Brexiteer in that every issue is someone’s fault. Has a Brexiteer ever taken ownership of the problems Brexit has created?
You then suggest scrapping the NI Protocol and going on WTO agreement, displaying your economic illiteracy. Not even these mediocre fifth rate Tory leadership contenders have suggested trading via the WTO, incurring tariffs, during double digit inflation. It’s the sort of unserious, infantile, damn the consequences policy which sums up the entire Brexit project.
I asked about the NI Protocol as it was one of Johnson’s lies and key to his “oven ready deal”. Brexiteers either don’t understand the implications for NI and the peace process or don’t care. Both is likely to be true.
Are you friends with “Boris” and “Frosty”? You know them well?
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@xzenderx The aim of the lockdowns was (1) prevent the NHS hospitals from being over run, they don't have much spare capacity as it was; (2) to prevent a new virus ripping through the population which had a high mortality rate for older people and people with underlying conditions and (3) buy time for vaccinations and antivirals. How is that controversial?
I agree due to the pandemic and the increased pressures on the NHS, operations, screenings/tests, appointments etc have been delayed and would result in otherwise treatable conditions going undiagnosed, potentially leading to worse health outcomes. I also blame the Tories for this, but for different reasons to you. I blame the Tories for 12 years of ideological austerity underfunding of the NHS, not for pandemic lockdowns.
“Cost of freedom” I like delicious irony of someone who cheered for us to lose our Freedom of Movement (leaving the Single Market), the right for us to work, live, study or retire anywhere in the EU, moaning about being told to stay inside for a few months, wash your hands and wear a face mask "cost freedom."
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