Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "Americans Don't Understand The Truth About China" video.
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Giovanni Sanchez China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
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Steve Bingham China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
Video: U.S. should focus more on infrastructure rather than warmongering youtu.be/LyhK2PQyE_w
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@everythingandmore5537 About 5 year elections, China has made 5-year plans, 10-year plans, 20-year plans, to map out China's direction and future in the years 2025, 2030, 2040, 2050. By abolishing the presidential term limits, our leaders can remain in power long term to see their plans for China bloom and come to fruition in the future.
Whereas in the United States, the US Presidents have to step down after 4-8 years because of presidential term limits, so they can only make short term plans for America's future, instead of long term plans spanning, say 10 years or more.
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@johnnyrommel4113 About Hong Kong, during the 19th century, the British wanted to continue drinking Chinese tea, but China did not want anything the West had to offer, so Britain waged two bloody wars with China and forced Chinese to buy opium from them at gunpoint, which we didn't want because it made us sick and was poisoning our people. During this weak period of Chinese history, Hong Kong was taken from China and made into British colony, to act as a drug distribution hub to spread the addiction throughout rest of China.
Even when Britain renounced ownership over its former territories, Hong Kong was not fully returned back to China, and China had to agree to Sino-British declaration just for Britain to handover what belongs to us.
That's where the One Country Two Systems policy comes into play. China is the only country in the world to allow multiple political systems (Hong Kong's, Macau's and the mainland's) to exist within our borders. No other country in the world has such a system. It is as though North Korea and South Korea agree to reunify as a single country, Korea, while allowing both to Kepp their respective governments. That's the One Country, Two Systems Policy.
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@johnnyrommel4113 You yourself said: "Society changes and evolves." Then two lines later you said: "The rules were not supposed to change until 2047." so what's the meaning of this? There were endless riots across Hong Kong, so why can't Beijing change the rules due to the turbulent times? You yourself admitted that things need to change, but when China does it, suddenly it's wrong?
You said: "China seems to want to adopt this position that they are a world power. I agree that they are the newest member of the club. But you don't begin your career by walking into a room and dictating terms to the guys who already been there for a long time."
China is not a newcomer, China was a superpower long before the USA. Britain was colonial superpower during 19th century but was eventually overtaken by USA in 20th century. But prior to that, China (and also India) had been economic superpower for 1800 years and we made up 25% of the world's GDP share, according to world leading British economist, Angus Maddison.
Source: Global distribution of GDP among China, India, Western Europe, USA, Middle East from 1 AD to 2003 AD wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1_AD_to_2003_AD_Historical_Trends_in_global_distribution_of_GDP_China_India_Western_Europe_USA_Middle_East.png
And judging from the above trend, it looks as though China is all set to dominate the 21st century. So China is merely returning to our original status that's all, it was Westerners that toppled China during the Opium Wars. Yet you're accusing China of dictating terms, when Westerners (the new superpowers) did the same thing to China (the original superpower) during the Opium Wars?
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@johnnyrommel4113 About Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan and the rest of mainland China, since the Qing Dynasty, China has been defined as a multi-ethnic country (not just Han Chinese). Just like the United States of America consist of Caucasian Americans (white), African Americans (black), Latin Americans (brown), Asian Americans (yellow) and Native Americans (red). Despite their cultural differences, as long as they are born in America (or acquired green card) they are Americans.
Likewise, China consists of 55 different ethnic groups, including Han, Tibetans, Uighurs, Mongols, Manchu, even Koreans in Northeastern China. As long as you're born in Chinese territory (which includes Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc) then you are considered a Chinese citizen, similar to America's example above. Yet you're trying to alienate Tibetans, Uighurs, Hong Kongers from the rest of China?
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@johnnyrommel4113 What genocide in Xinjiang? The population of Uighurs in China from 1953 to 2010 actually tripled in size from 3 million to 10 million.
Population of Uighurs in China from 1953 to 2010
1953: 3,640,125
1964: 3,996,311
1982: 5,917,030
1990: 7,207,024
2000: 8,399,393
2010: 10,069,346
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Source: Demographics of China wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Ethnic_groups
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Giovanni Sanchez For the past couple of hundred years, yes. Britain was colonial superpower during 19th century but was eventually overtaken by USA in 20th century. But prior to that, China (and also India) had been economic superpower for 1800 years and we made up 25% of the world's GDP share, according to world leading British economist, Angus Maddison.
Source: Global distribution of GDP among China, India, Western Europe, USA, Middle East from 1 AD to 2003 AD wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1_AD_to_2003_AD_Historical_Trends_in_global_distribution_of_GDP_China_India_Western_Europe_USA_Middle_East.png
And judging from the above trend, it looks as though China is all set to dominate the 21st century. Ancient Chinese nobility wore luxurious silk clothing since 4th millennium BCE, while the rest of the world wore mostly loincloths and "bedsheets" called togas. Silk was much prized by the rest of the world, so much that a lucrative trade route had been set up and named in honor of the precious material. Along the Silk Road, flowed Chinese luxury goods like silk, tea, paper, gunpowder, porcelain (fine china) which were in great demand throughout the ancient world.
Take Han Chinese traditional clothing Hanfu (汉服) for example and it has 5,000 years of history and even the Japanese Kimono and Korean Hanbok clothing have their origins in Chinese Hanfu.
Video: Beautiful Traditional Costume: Han Chinese Clothing (Hanfu) youtu.be/T6CucJxiWec?t=5
But what makes you Chinese culture is destroyed? Have you actually been to China and witness Chinese culture for yourself?
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Giovanni Sanchez So even with deteriorating US-Soviet relations, there was no nuclear war whereas US-China relations today, while bad, isn't as bad as it was during the Cold War, so nuclear option is unlikely based historical assessment.
As for One Party System, China has produced many 5-year plans, 10-year plans, 20-year plans, 30-year plans, etc to map out China's future and direction in the years 2025, 2030, 2040, 2050. By abolishing the presidential term limits, our leaders can remain in power long term to see their plans for China bloom and come to fruition in the future.
Whereas in the United States, the US Presidents have to step down after 4-8 years because of presidential term limits, so they can only make short term plans for America's future, instead of long term plans spanning, say 10 years or more. Yet you claim USA is going to decouple from China in the next 10 years? Unlikely.
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Giovanni Sanchez China has hypersonic missiles like the DF-ZF, which have been tested 7 times already and travels at speeds between 4,000 and 7,000 miles per hour.
Source: China Successfully Tests Hypersonic Missile freebeacon.com/national-security/china-successfully-tests-hypersonic-missile/
U.S. intelligence officials have assessed that China plans to use the glider to deliver nuclear weapons through increasingly sophisticated missile defenses. The DF-ZF also could be used as part of a conventional strategic strike weapon capable of hitting targets around the world within an hour.
If USA is going to decouple from China, then the cost of living in USA is going to increase, because China is still the most efficient and cost-effective factory of the world. Prices of Made-in-America products are going to be higher than Made-in-China products. Even India and Vietnam lack the infrastructure like ports to transport the sheer amount of cargo that passes through China everyday.
Here are two lists of busiest ports in the world and Chinese ports (Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Ningbo-Zhousan, Qingdao, Tianjin, Xiamen, Dalian, etc) dominate the lists.
Source: List of busiest ports by cargo tonnage wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_ports_by_cargo_tonnage#2012%E2%80%932017
Source: List of busiest container ports wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_container_ports
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Giovanni Sanchez About possible nuclear war, look back during the Cold War and despite how bad relations were deteriorating between USA and USSR were, there was no hot nuclear war, although it came close to during Cuban missile crisis.
Today, USA and China still have relations (Unlike USA and USSR), our world is far more interconnected today than during the Cold War period. Our international citizens are everywhere, airlines are currently locked down at the moment preventing mass travel, it's unlikely that there will be hot nuclear war given the high chance of killing own citizens.
Another thing is that People's Liberation Army missile technology has vastly improved. China is home to the world's longest range ICBM, the DF-41 with operational range between 12,000 km to 15,000 km, surpassing the US LGM-30 Minuteman range of 13,000 km.
Video: China missile test DF-41 launch from railroad train youtu.be/h2kjMctT8yU?t=13
This makes USA think twice before considering hot nuclear war with China, because our missiles are capable of reaching the US mainland.
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@kalitech2026 China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
So which country is the real threat to global peace and stability here?
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@Shivam B WeChat is far superior to WhatsApp, with just a single app, people in China can make payments, order food, water, book medical appointments, book taxis, pay the fare, pay bills, split the bill (going Dutch), transfer funds, share location, pick up laundry and so many more functions that are unavailable in WhatsApp.
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@johnnyrommel4113 Look, Biden wants to return America to the pre-Trump era. But remember, that the pre-Trump era was precisely what led to Trump's election in 2016. To further elaborate this example, imagine from the Trump era (B), you want to return to pre-Trump era (A). But (A) was precisely what led to (B) in the first place! (A) -> (B)
By returning that pre-Trump era (A), Biden is only setting up the USA to return to the Trump era (B). Unless you change the conditions and fix the root of the problem, you'll see a return to Trump's re-election (or another candidate with similar Trump views) By ignoring the 49% of American voters, you are setting up the same conditions for next election in 2024 to be a close shave as well.
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You said: "But once again, your issue is with Trump. Not me or any other American. Only Trump to blame for that. Rest of us are clean."
Why are you Americans always trying to wash your hands clean? Earlier you said your family is clean, now you're saying rest of Americans are clean? Why are you deliberately trying to avoid responsibility? You constantly try to paint Americans as clean, when 71 million of Americans who voted, voted for Trump! You're just going to ignore 49% of Americans votes and claim you're clean?
You are illustrating the deep divisions present in American society. By ignoring the 49% and trying to paint rest of Americans as clean, you're just avoiding responsibility for American's actions that's all, what sort of thinking is this?
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@johnnyrommel4113 "神州 Shenzhou Some things are sacred to us. One of those things is the people's voice through voting…Evolve yes but not in a way that takes liberty away"
Just like some things are sacred to China, which is political stability of the country, above all others. Today, Hong Kong clearly have their own government separate from the mainland, they have elections (they recently held one in 2019 which resulted in landslide victory for pro-democracy). But if not for Beijing's National Security Law, then the Hong Kong protests would have continued, so why can't Hong Kong evolve in a way that takes the "liberty to riot" away? China prioritise political stability over the so-called liberty to riot.
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You said: "We have no justification for this type of action. It's simply not how Americans think. And I don't think losing an election is an excuse to change. The CPC may say different to you but the fact is they lose seats and the rules change."
But the people in Hong Kong aren't Americans, why should they follow America's ideals? Just like you're not from Hong Kong, then why are you telling Chinese how to govern our territories?
Also, the CPC doesn't hold any seats in Hong Kong's government, all the people in Hong Kong's government are elected by the Hong Kong people themselves through elections and Beijing does not cast any votes in Hong Kong's elections. So what lost seats by the CPC are you talking about?
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@kalitech2026 Evil? China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
So which country is the real threat to global peace and stabilized here?
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@johnnyrommel4113 You're the one who brought up Individualism versus Collectivism, I'm pointing out that Individualism is dividing Americans that's all. Even your actions, you just claim "I'm not one of those people, they have no rights!" _ But if you ask one of those people, they'll say you are the ones in the wrong here. It appears you Americans only seem to know how blame others, scapegoat others and wash your own hands clean that's all. Then how is America ever going to unite their own people, when Americans only seem to think about themselves and not their fellow Americans? Just like you continually ignore the 49% that voted for Trump, they aren't going to disappear overnight and ignoring them is only going to breed resentment among them, and further divide Americans.
It's very simple to get rid of guns, just amend the constitution that's all. I mean, the American Constitution has remained unchanged for the last 100 or so years. Political systems are living entities and should evolve with the times, yet the USA is suffering from political stagnation. There is ineffective leadership, hesitation, stalemate, loss of identity, failure to provide social cohesion. There is increased scapegoating (blaming China for America's woes) and victimisation (claiming USA is a victim of China). Even you constantly try to wash your hands off them claim Americans aren't like that, refusing to acknowledge the 49% who voted for Trump.
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Giovanni Sanchez China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
Video: U.S. should focus more on infrastructure rather than warmongering youtu.be/LyhK2PQyE_w
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@patrickdempsey4034 Hong Kong was taken from China by Britain and wasn't fully returned. During the 19th century, the British wanted to continue drinking Chinese tea, but China did not want anything the West had to offer, so Britain waged two bloody wars with China and forced Chinese to buy opium from them at gunpoint, which we didn't want because it made us sick and was poisoning our people. During this weak period of Chinese history, Hong Kong was taken from China and made into British colony, to act as a drug distribution hub to spread the addiction throughout rest of China.
Even when Britain renounced ownership over its former territories, Hong Kong was not fully returned back to China, and China had to agree to Sino-British declaration just for Britain to handover what belongs to us.
About the South China Sea, the North Vietnam PM Phạm Văn Đồng had formally accepted that the Paracel and Spratly islands were historically Chinese in a diplomatic letter he wrote to Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai in 1958.
Here is the note: wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1958_diplomatic_note_from_phamvandong_to_zhouenlai.jpg
In 1958, the People's Republic of China issued a declaration defining its territorial waters which encompassed the Spratly and Paracel Islands. North Vietnam's prime minister, Pham Van Dong, sent a diplomatic note to Zhou Enlai, stating that "The Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam respects this decision." The diplomatic note was written on September 14 and was publicized on Nhan Dan newspaper(Vietnam) on September 22, 1958.
But after it was discovered that the region contain rich deposits of oil and gas, Vietnam suddenly changed its mind, broke their word and started claiming those territory as part of Vietnam. Why Vietnam politician can change their minds just like that?
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@mingkao1 Firstly, go and read Taiwan's own constitution and it says that Taiwan is part of China. Taiwan claims all of mainland China (including Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, etc) as part of their territory, including territory currently under the control of Mongolia, Burma (Myanmar), Bhutan, India, Japan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia and Tajikistan. Here's a map of all the territory Taiwan claims (wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ROC_Administrative_and_Claims.svg )
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@mmakshak "神州 Shenzhou Why don't you look into YouTube about how peaceful China is to their neighbours?"
Along with Russia, China has the most neighbours in the world at 14 neighbouring countries Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar (Burma), Laos, Vietnam and North Korea. But China today is currently at peace and not at war with any country, which country is China currently at war with, you tell me?
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@mmakshak About Intellectual Property, China applies for more patents than any other country in the world and we also have the world's largest number of granted patents, according to World Intellectual Property Indicators.
Patent applications for the top 10 offices, 2018
1. China (1,542,002 patents)
2. United States (597,141 patents)
3. Japan (313,567 patents)
4. South Korea (209,992 patents)
5. European Patent Office (174,397 patents)
6. Germany (67,898 patents)
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Source: World Intellectual Property Indicators wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators#Patents
Patent grants for the top 10 offices, 2018
1. China (432,147 patents)
2. United States (307,759 patents)
3. Japan (194,525 patents)
4. European Patent Office (127,603 patents)
5. South Korea (119,012 patents)
6. Russian Federation (35,774 patents)
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@kalitech2026 The Chinese government is pouring funds into research and development, and China already has world's 2nd highest R&D spending after the USA:
Countries by Research and Development spending
1. United States ($511.1 billion)
2. China ($275.0 billion)
3. Japan ($165.7 billion)
4. Germany ($118.8 billion)
5. South Korea ($91.6 billion)
6. India ($66.5 billion)
7. Brazil ($38.0 billion)
8. United Kingdom ($44.8 billion)
9. Russia ($42.6 billion)
10 France ($38.4 billion)
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Source: List of countries by research and development spending wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_research_and_development_spending#List
In the West, researchers often have to worry about funding, so they write papers and cite other peoples work to improve their credibility, so that they can expand their academic circles, get approval of grants so that they can publish more papers. It has degenerated into an academic system and many researcher's ideas remain on paper, instead of being turned into actual products.
Whereas in China, research funds are available at all tiers of society, from corporate to government sector, and a struggling research can easily get a $40,000 funding approval, thus freeing the researcher to concentrate on his/her research instead of having to worry about funding. The idea-to-product transition time in China is short too, so many researchers can feel a sense of satisfaction, witnessing their ideas being turned to actual products.
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@userman44 You said: "No, Communism put Chinese people in poverty."
Previously under capitalist Republic of China 🇹🇼 (1912-1949), China was dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country in the past, but after the Communist revolution, under the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳 (1949~) China has transformed into world's 2nd largest economy, the world's factory (Made in China) having world's 2nd highest R&D spending, protected by world's largest land army, the People's Liberation Army, funded by world's 2nd highest military expenditure.
And it's all been achieved under communist party leadership, despite Western anti-Communist propaganda constantly denouncing China's success all along.
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@johnnyrommel4113 "神州 Shenzhou regulated media is not free media"
And Free Media is Never Free, they have to get sponsorship from rich people, from military-industrial complexes, rich corporations, and they have an agenda too, whether it's to propagate fake news, demonise an adversary, spread rumours, etc. Free Media is under no obligation to disclose their sources, their surveys, their information, they could easily make up fake news and spread them. Because they are unregulated.
Look at in 2020, some people started setting 5G Towers on fire, because they were misled by a conspiracy theory that 5G causes Covid-19. Because of fake news, spread by unregulated, so-called "free media"
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@johnnyrommel4113 "Most Americans did not want to leave… Trump really only represents the people that are loyal to him."
Back in 2016, it was majority of Americans that voted for Donald Trump to become President of the United States, so President Trump's actions of taking USA out of the Paris Climate Agreement (according to Western democracy) represents the will of Americans, or at least the majority of Americans. I mean, this is all part of Western democracy, you Americans voted for Trump in 2016, so why are you claiming Trump didn't represent majority of American's views? That's what Western democracy is about, isn't it? Since you elected your own President yourselves.
Even after the 2020 Presidential Elections, Donald Trump was the 2nd most voted for candidate at 74 million votes compared to Biden's 81 million votes. So Trump represents a significant viewpoint of almost half of all Americans who voted. I'm just using the statistics to show that America is very much divided under Western democracy that's all.
And why did you say "We admit to things that CCP doesn't admit"? China had been a member of Paris Climate Agreement all along, we never withdrew from it, unlike USA.
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@johnnyrommel4113 China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
So which country is the real threat to global peace and stability here?
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@johnnyrommel4113 You said: "You also refuse to acknowledge any of the aspects that show I’m human and not evil."
Nobody said that being human automatically equates to not being evil. Humans ourselves have committed evil, it doesn't necessarily mean that just because one is human that s/he is not evil. Evil itself is a human construct and different people have different interpretations of evil. For example, I think the gunman who shot 8 people to death in Atlanta (6 of whom were Asian women) is evil, yet the Cherokee county officer Baker, tries to humanize the gunman, by claiming it wasn't racism, and that he was at the end of his rope, and he had a bad day.
You said: "That’s why you don’t like me mentioning my family, it makes you think of me as a human being. You don’t want to think of me that way because you want to dehumanize me."
No, I don't like you mentioning your family because it has nothing to do with the points I brought up. There's no way to even prove that you're married with kids, even if you were unmarried or had you marry someone of a different race, I couldn't care less, I'm talking about politics, not other people's family.
But you keep on bringing your family into this argument, because you're unable to refute my points so you hope that you could use your family as a shield. But I did not resort hurling personal insults against your family, the most I did was ask whether they read a Forbes article or not. Yet you said I said your family is the Forbes family? How?
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@johnnyrommel4113 "神州 Shenzhou Suuuurrrre. Im the racist for bringing up my family and trying to connect with you on a cultural level. Thats not racism dude. Making assumptions based on my race is racist."
Bringing up your family isn't racist, but you constantly point out in my face that she's Chinese, only goes to show that you are yourself distinguishing her by race, so how isn't that racist? A real non-racist won't even bring up his spouse's race at all, yet you've been taking every opportunity to mention her race in this argument. I didn't even know you were Caucasian until you yourself choose to mention it, and it was you yourself who made the assumption that I'm Han (which happen to be correct that's all).
Me, I'm discussing politics, which political system works for which country/state whereas you keep the on trying to bring your family into this discussion. Unless you did not read my repeated comments, I've made it clear that I'm not interested in your family, if you want to find someone to connect with, you're always welcome to log on to Facebook, Twitter, Weibo, etc. YouTube isn't the ideal website for connecting.
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@johnnyrommel4113 "神州 Shenzhou And now I know your are a kid. You imply with silence on the matter."
I gave you an entire night to respond, but you won't even give me a couple of hours to respond, before claiming that I'm silent on the matter? Why are you so impatient while waiting for a response from me? Because of your ADHD?
You said: "At least young enough to care about your image. I'm a POS dude. I dont care about my image too much."
If you don't care about your image too much, then why do you keep on bringing your family into this argument with every opportunity, claiming that you're Caucasian marrying Chinese wife and so on? It's clear that you care about your image, you constantly try to preserve your image, even though I don't care.
About recession, Westerners have long been predicting China's economic downfall. Here's a list:
1990. The Economist: China's economy has come to a halt.
1996. The Economist: China's economy will face hard landing.
1998. The Economist: China's economy entering a dangerous period of sluggish growth.
1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for the Chinese economy.
2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin.
2001. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in China.
2002. Westchester University: China Anxiously Seeks A Soft Economic landing.
2003. KWR International: How to find a soft landing if China..
2004. The Economist: The great fall of China?
2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in China.
2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft Landing?
2007. TIME: Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China avoid a hard landing?
2008. Forbes: Hard Landing in China?
2009. Fortune: China's hard landing. China must find a way to recover.
2010. Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China.
2011. Business Insider: A Chinese Hard Landing May Be Closer Than You Think.
2012. American Interest: Dismal Economic News from China: A Hard Landing.
2013. Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing in China.
2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China.
2015. Forbes: Congratulations, You got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing....
2016. The Economist: Hard Landing looms for China.
2017. National Interest: Is China's Economy Going To Crash?
2018. The Daily Reckoning: China's Coming Financial Meltdown.
2019. Zero Hedge: Seven Reasons Why China Is Facing A Hard Landing In 2019
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But its already 2021, and China's economy is still going strong. So why continue to believe China's economy will fall, given that Western economist predictions about China's collapse been proven consistently wrong for almost 30 years already?
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Marshall Applewhite What genocide? The population of Uighurs in China from 1953 to 2010 actually tripled in size from 3 million to 10 million Uighurs. That's because Uighurs aren't subject to the One Child Policy (unlike Han) so they can have as many kids as they want.
Population of Uighurs in China from 1953 to 2010
1953: 3,640,125
1964: 3,996,311
1982: 5,917,030
1990: 7,207,024
2000: 8,399,393
2010: 10,069,346
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Source: Demographics of China wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Ethnic_groups
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@MontanaCamp "You just said you support communism ? Eat lead"
About Capitalism vs Communism, it's no secret that Capitalism is killing the planet. Capitalism is the overproduction of goods in pursuit of profits, unnecessarily polluting the environment in the process, with the eventual goal being the complete depletion of the Earth's resources. Because our modern industries are just too efficient, we can theoretically produce enough food, goods, houses, schools, hospitals, for everyone on the planet. Yet we still have starvation, homelessness, illiteracy, people lacking access to healthcare, because under capitalism, the goods go to those who can afford it.
Communism is the belief that every resource should be allocated according to needs. As the Marxist saying goes: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." The Earth's resources are finite and while capitalism seeks to exhaust them, communism is dedicated to allocating resources according to needs.
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Giovanni Sanchez The most powerful empires were the Mongol Empire, the Persian Empire, the Caliphate, etc, of which majority were governed under authoritarian rule, not Western brand of democracy, so what's your point? You love Chinese 5000 years of history, that was all under the authoritarian rule of Emperors and the Imperial Court, because Chinese civilization has always been most successful under authoritarian rule (as we still are today), then why can't China continue under our current political system, when it has proven to be successful for our country?
And have you no logical refute to the fact that Marxism-Lenism transformed Russia from arguably the poorest country in Europe at that time before 1917, to arguably the strongest country in Europe, both economically and militarily (that's why NATO was formed) after the Communist revolution? Other than claiming "Marxism and Communism" is evil? Why can't you formulate a proper argument in response to what Marxism-Lenism has achieved in Russia?
It's a well-known fact today that Capitalism is killing the planet. Capitalism is the overproduction of goods in pursuit of profits, unnecessarily polluting the environment in the process, with the eventual goal being the complete depletion of the Earth's resources.
Communism is the belief that every resource should be allocated according to needs. As the Marxist saying goes: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." The Earth's resources are finite, and where capitalism seeks to exhaust them in the pursuit of profits, communism is dedicated to distributing resources according to needs.
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Giovanni Sanchez The Roman Empire has since fallen and fractured into UK, France, Germany, Turkey, Algeria, Egypt, etc, whereas Chinese civilization is among the world's oldest "continuous" civilization still alive today, what are you talking about? Have you actually been to China and see what life is like here for yourself?
And about Westerners being raised to think communism is bad, look at the transformation of Russia for example. Before the communist revolution in 1917, Russia was once arguably the poorest country in Europe, compared to the richer, developed Western Europe countries. Russia was once full of dirt-poor peasants, suffering from starvation under a corrupt Tsar, and Russia was technologically backward compared to the more developed Western Europe countries for sure.
But after the 1917 Communist Revolution by the Bolsheviks, the new Soviet Union rapidly grew to become arguably the strongest country in Europe both militarily and economically. The Soviet Union was world's 2nd largest economy from 1960-1985 during its heyday, and even the Western European countries formed NATO because of how strong the Soviet Union had become under the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
Source: Soviet Union was world's 2nd largest economy from 1960-1985 wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_historical_GDP#Overview_of_the_ten_largest_economies
So why are you convinced that communism is evil, given such an amazing transformation in Russia, from arguably once the poorest country in Europe, to the strongest country in Europe, until NATO had to be formed against the Soviet Union? Such an amazing ideology, yet you Westerners demonise communism despite it's massive success?
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@johnnyrommel4113 China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
Video: U.S. should focus more on infrastructure rather than warmongering youtu.be/LyhK2PQyE_w
So which country do you think is the greater threat to global peace and stability?
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@everythingandmore5537 You said: "Xi is different. He is president for life. He started belt and road project."
China has produced many 5-year plans, 10-year plans, 20-year plans, 30-year plans, etc to map out China's future and direction in the years 2025, 2030, 2040, 2050. By abolishing the presidential term limits, our leaders can remain in power long term to see their plans for China bloom and come to fruition in the future. The Belt and Road Initiative is one example of a long term plan put forth by China to connect China with Europe and bring development to the landlocked regions in between.
Whereas in the United States, the US Presidents have to step down after 4-8 years because of presidential term limits, so they can only make short term plans for America's future, instead of long term plans spanning, say 10 years or more.
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@Robert Wakeham In 2016, China launched world's 1st quantum satellite, named Micius, (墨子) into orbit and demonstrated that the quantum entanglement effect works at distances above the stratosphere, smashing the previous record held on Earth. Video: China's Quantum satellite achieves 'spooky action' at record distance youtube.com/watch?v=4QlcKuxDGrs
Quantum entanglement (in a nutshell) is when two subatomic particles become an "entangled pair", able to influence their quantum states (won't go into detail here) seemingly regardless of the distance involved. One particle could be on the surface of the Earth, and the other on the surface of the Moon, and theoretically, they can still influence each other with no information (known to current science) passing in between them.
The longest record for quantum entanglement on Earth is 143 km in at experiment in the Canary Islands. But China has allowed two stations (Delingha and Lijiang station) located 1200 km apart to communicate directly, through our quantum satellite, thus breaking the previous record and showcasing that the quantum entanglement effect works at distances above the stratosphere.
And as far as I know, this is a world first, and China is the first to launch quantum satellite into space.
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@everythingandmore5537 @Everything and More "神州 Shenzhou the free world would not tolerate a totalitarian system that does genocide."
What genocide? The population of Uighurs in China from 1953 to 2010 actually tripled in size from 3 million to 10 million Uighurs. That's because Uighurs subject to the One Child Policy (unlike Han) so they can have as many kids as they want.
Population of Uighurs in China from 1953 to 2010
1953: 3,640,125
1964: 3,996,311
1982: 5,917,030
1990: 7,207,024
2000: 8,399,393
2010: 10,069,346
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Source: Wikipedia: Demographics of China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Ethnic_groups
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@johnnyrommel4113 I actually support the One Child Policy, I was merely highlighting that we Han have complaints, which you denied earlier when you said: "You forget that if you are Han, your are the "white guy" in China and thus have no complaints on the matter."
In the past China was still dirt-poor country, suffering from high birth rate, high child malnutrition, high child mortality, high illiteracy and other population problems at that time. Why allow families in China to raise multiple kids, only for them to starve to death, succumb to childhood diseases, and having not enough food, not enough hospitals, and not enough schools to send them all to? Why not make families focus all available resources into raising a single, healthy kid into adulthood, and get him into a good school?
According to World Bank, China's poverty rate fell from 88% in 1981 to a mere 0.7% in 2015. According to UNESCO, adult literacy rate in China increased from 65.5% in 1982 to a whopping 96.4% in 2015%. This is an impressive feat considering that China is world's most populous country, yet attaining 0.7% poverty and 96.4% literacy.
Source: Poverty in China wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China
Source: Adult literacy in China 1982-2015 statista.com/statistics/271336/literacy-in-china
Look at India, world's 2nd largest population country, and India is suffering from high birth rate, high child malnutrition, high child mortality, high illiteracy and other population problems that China once suffered from in the past.
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