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Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "How Should The West Deal with A Rising China? Expert Reveals Strategy" video.

China's position towards human rights is that the right to subsistence is the most important of all human rights, and is focused on poverty alleviation efforts, whereas the American position on human rights is about weaponizing them to interfere in other country's affairs.
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China is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc. Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place. If anything, it sounds like the United States is a threat to global peace and stability.
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@Andy-P Ukraine ultra-nationalist neo-Nazis were killing ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk (collectively known as Donbas) for the past 8 years, and some 14 000 people have been killed in the Donbas War according to the UN. Russia is not starting a war, they are putting an end to one that began in 2014.
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@profflux Take Africa for example, in the late 1950s, China signed bilateral trade agreements with Algeria, Egypt, Guinea, Somalia, Morocco, and Sudan. Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai made a ten-country tour of Africa between December 1963 and January 1964, where he visited Ghana and established close relations with Kwame Nkrumah, who desired a united Africa. Relations at that time often reflected China's foreign policy in general.
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@MarkYeung1 I do not presume to speak on behalf of the people of Taiwan, but it appears that according to polls, Tsai Ing-Wen's approval ratings have fallen to a 21-month low, so (E) may not be the choice for some people in Taiwan.
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As a Chinese, I'll pick (D) of course. But on the Western democracies' answer sheet, the politically-correct answer would "anyone but (D)".
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@Andy .P What about farmers protesting in the Netherlands and getting shot by the police?
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It's said that people don't trust the people that they've wronged in the past.
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Singapore is actually the only South East Asian country to have slapped sanctions on Russia (thus earning Singapore a place on Russia's list of "unfriendly countries") so isn't Singapore's stance basically the same as the G7's stance towards Russia?
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The win-win model pursued by China is more sustainable compared to the zero sum game model pursued by the United States in my opinion.
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@MarkYeung1 You said: "China needs to understand the Western human right perspectives when it deals with Hong Kong." Hong Kong was literally taken from China by the British. During the 19th century, the British wanted to continue drinking Chinese tea, but China did not want anything the West had to offer, so Britain waged two wars with China and forced Chinese to buy opium from them at gunpoint, which we didn't want because it made us sick and was poisoning our people. During this weak period of Chinese history, Hong Kong was taken from China and made into British colony, to act as a drug distribution hub to spread the addiction throughout rest of China. Even when Britain renounced ownership over its former territories, Hong Kong was not fully returned back to China, and China had to agree to Sino-British declaration just for Britain to handover what belongs to us.
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@Andy-P You said: "At least I can read about these Police actions. What about the protestors in Henan who have had their accounts frozen" What about them? I can also read about those police actions, so what's your point? If anything, you're proving the fact that people in China do protest after all.
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Perhaps it makes sense in context, only because the West has clearly wronged China in the past, that they ask themselves such a question. Not just China, but the West has also done much wrong to many other countries, such that they now fear retribution for their actions. That's why they are asking such a cynical question as "Can China be trusted?"
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Indeed. And the Chinese Dream is about the rejuvenation of the Chinese civilization and returning China back to our former global status before 1840.
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@MarkYeung1 Singapore practically lost its case for neutrality by slapping sanctions on Russia (the only ASEAN country to have done so) presumably on the U.S's orders. This has resulted in Russia blacklisting Singapore and putting it on a list of "unfriendly countries". Was such a political move by Singapore really worth it?
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@Andy-P "神州 Shenzhou Not everyone in the west picks the politically correct answer." Well, I never did say that everyone in the West picks the PC answer, I merely pointed it out.
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@MarkYeung1 Same thing, the new Australian PM Anthony Albanese can talk to President Xi Jinping on resolving Sino-Australian issues. The former Australian PM Scott Morrison was somewhat anti-China.
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It's said that people distrust people that they've wrong before. The West wronged China during the 19th century, which is probably the reason why now they fear retribution for their earlier actions, and that's why they ask themselves "Can they trust China?".
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@comment sense You said: "perhaps you can spread your communism to the whole world so oil producing countries can give you free oil according to your needs." According to your logic, if communism "was spread to the whole world", that means the entire world's needs are factored and the entire world's resources are distributed according to who needs it most urgently (according to the principles of communism). In today's scenario, Sri Lanka is currently facing a severe oil crisis (of catastrophic proportions) so imagine the lives that could be saved if resources were allocated to those who truly need it most and cannot afford it.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou giving resources to elderly and handicapped people are charity work." And is there something fundamentally wrong and inhuman about charity work? Why should the poor grow poorer while the rich have more money and resources than they can afford to spend? There's something clearly wrong with this system called capitalism, that seeks to deplete the Earth of resources all in mindless pursuit of profits. When we all eventually die, can we take our profits into the afterlife? Why not seek a better more efficient distribution of resources compared to the current system under capitalism? This is why Karl Marx did not believe capitalism to be the end goal of humanity's development. It's too inhumane, too unfeeling, and mindlessly pursuits profit while neglecting other more meaningful factors.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou giving resources to elderly and handicapped people are charity work." And is there something fundamentally wrong and inhuman about charity work? Why should the poor grow poorer while the rich have more money and resources than they can afford to spend? There's something clearly wrong with this system called capitalism, that seeks to deplete the Earth of resources all in mindless pursuit of profits. When we all eventually die, can we take our profits into the afterlife? Why not seek a better more efficient distribution of resources compared to the current system under capitalism?
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou giving resources to elderly and handicapped people are charity work." And is there something fundamentally wrong and inhuman about charity work? Why should the poor grow poorer while the rich have more money and resources than they can afford to spend? This is why Karl Marx did not believe capitalism to be the end goal of humanity's development. It's too inhumane, too unfeeling, and mindlessly pursuits profit while neglecting other more meaningful factors.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou you may think you are poor, but there are people even poorer than you are." The greatest change doesn't come from poor people giving people even poorer their hard earned money. The greatest change comes from rich people giving poor people enough to meet their basic needs (at virtually no cost to themselves). Studies have shown that if the top 1% of richest people in the world gave away half their assets to the bottom 50% of low income groups, the 1% will still be the world's richest, while the improvement of living standards to the bottom 50% would be life-changing.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou You are talking about how great communism is for the whole world. China now occupies south china sea." Because we currently do not live in world of communism, we live in one of capitalism, so it's unrealistic to expect China to adhere to the principles of communism when the rest of the world don't. Communism only works when everyone is in agreement with its principles, much like democratic elections only works if voters are well-informed and make rational decisions when casting their votes, instead of irrational voting based off emotions.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou did i say charity work for the elderly and the handicapped people are wrong?" Looking at your earlier comments, this appears to be your stance, when you said (and I quote your own words): "THE STRONG GROW AND THE WEAK SHRINK." but if it's not your stance, then does that mean you agree with the basic principles of communism? Then we are in agreement. You said: "what i said was do you treat everyone as a charity case?" Of course not. There is the first part of the Marxist saying which is "From each according to his ability," Marx intended the initial part of his slogan, to suggest not merely that each person should work as hard as they can, but that each person should best develop their particular talents. Have you ever felt that your contribution to society could be greater if you were doing work that you actually enjoyed? If one derives pleasure from contributing to a certain aspect of human society, then it no longer becomes work. Work is when people have to perform this task in order to pay their bills and put food on the table, because we live under the dictates of capitalism.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou do what you want. every country reaps what it sows." Looks like you've retreated to repeating your defeatist mantra (like you did in that other thread where we discussed the same topic). Have you wondered why is it people are just so afraid to discuss Marxism and communism in the West? Many people who intensely hate Karl Marx's teaching have admitted that they don't even have a clue about his teachings, nor have they read his books.
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@comment sense You said: "if you are weak, then japan and usa kick your butte." That's what happened to China for the past century, we were humiliated by Western powers and Japan, who carved up Chinese territory like a pie and served it among themselves (like in that infamous French cartoon). A big country with a weak army will only invite invaders to our lands, so China's response is to build up our military capabilities to act as a deterrent against potential invaders.
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@comment sense Chinese students scored the highest in the 2018 Program for International Student Assessment or PISA in all three subjects: reading, science and mathematics. PISA 2018 ranking for Mathematics 1. China (591) 2. Singapore (569) 3. Macau, China (558) 4. Hong Kong, China (551) 5. Taiwan, China (531) ... PISA 2018 ranking for Science 1. China (590) 2. Singapore (551) 3. Macau, China (544) 4. Vietnam (543) 5. Estonia (530) ... PISA 2018 ranking for Reading 1. China (555) 2. Singapore (549) 3. Macau, China (525) 4. Hong Kong, China (524) 5. Estonia (523) ... Source: Programme for International Student Assessment
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@comment sense It's apparent that you only have the most rudimentary understanding of Marxist theory, you just think it's bad without actually justifying it, when it's capitalism that's responsible for the world's problems today. If you think Marxism is so deplorable, then why do you rely on China to manufacture all your Made-in-China goods?
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@comment sense It's apparent that you only have the most rudimentary understanding of Marxist theory, you just think it's bad without actually justifying it, when it's kapitalism that's responsible for the world's problems today. If you think Marxism is so deplorable, then why do you rely on China to manufacture all your Made-in-China goods? If capitalism is so great, why does the U.S still depend on China to manufacture their goods?
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@comment sense Chinese universities produce the most STEM graduates (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) out of any other country in the world. Countries With The Most STEM Graduates 1. China (4.7 million) 2. India (2.6 million) 3. United States (568,000) 4. Russia (561,000) 5. Iran (335,000) 6. Indonesia (206,000) 7. Japan (195,000) ... Source: Forbes: The Countries With The Most STEM Graduates This implies that China is going to play a much larger role in the STEM fields, given the sheer number of graduates produced in these fields.
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@comment sense It's not Marxist countries that are begging capitalist countries for help, it's capitalist countries like the USA that relies on China for their Made-in-China products, so your question should be in reverse.
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@comment sense I don't know why you keep on insisting that Marxist countries are begging capitalist countries. Isn't NATO begging China to cut off trade with Russia? Isn't Europe begging Russia not to cut off the Russian gas tap? It's like you got the world's situation in reverse here.
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@comment sense So why then do countries continue to rely on China to manufacture their products?
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@comment sense You asked "WHICH COUNTRY PRODUCES THE MOST HIGH TECH PRODUCTS IN THE WORLD?" Top 10 by High-Tech Product Exports (2019) 1. China ($731,890,595) 2. Hong Kong SAR, China ($330,093,815) 3. Germany ($210,082,307) 4. South Korea ($192,789,656) 5. United States ($156,365,524) 6. France ($117,814,412) 7. Singapore ($115,446,548) 8. Japan ($111,020,443) 9. Malaysia ($90,395,903) 10. Netherlands ($85,690,573) ... Source: YouTube: Top 20 Country by High-Technology Exports (1989-2019) (High-technology exports are products with high R&D intensity, such as in aerospace, computers-office machines, electronics-telecommunications, pharmacy, scientific instruments, electrical machinery, chemistry, non-electrical machinery, armament.)
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou major retailers in canada are all american companies." But they still make use of Made-in-China products, so why do capitalist countries continue to rely on China? Isn't this the opposite of you claiming marxist depending on capitalist countries?
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@comment sense You asked: "WHICH COUNTRY PRODUCES THE MOST HIGH TECH PRODUCTS IN THE WORLD?" I typed your question into Google, and it replied "China is the top country by high-technology exports in the world. As of 2020, high-technology exports in China was 757,682 million US dollars that accounts for 26.57% of the world's high-technology exports." So there's the answer to your question.
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@comment sense I searched "Does Canada rely on China to manufacture their products" and Google replied: "The welfare of Canadians is enhanced by importing consumer goods from China. The imports of intermediate and capital goods, particularly electrical equipment, are important inputs to Canadian production." So it appears that Canada does rely on China for products like electrical equipment after all.
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@comment sense You said: "神州 Shenzhou i do not think you are really bright." You can't even formulate a proper argument against me regarding Marxist teachings, yet you continue to insult me as not being bright?
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou my comments have been censored." So censorship does exist even on Western platforms like YouTube after all.
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@comment sense You said: "let me put it this way though. usa really needs china because no other countries can provide cheap labor. mexico labour are just as expensive as usa, india's labour are just as expensive as usa. south american labour are just as expensive as usa. only china has cheap labour." You've literally just contradicted your earlier statement when you said: "神州 Shenzhou CHEAP LABOUR ARE FOUND WORLD WIDE. TONS OF CHEAP LABOR WORLD WIDE." Which is it?
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou you keep on saying that china has high technology," That's because you asked me the question: "WHICH COUNTRY PRODUCES THE MOST HIGH TECH PRODUCTS IN THE WORLD?" and I simply answered. You said: "but if china has a high technology then how come china has to send their students to usa to study science" Because China already produces the most STEM graduates (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) out of any other country in the world at 4.7 million per year. So some Chinese students are unable to qualify for entrance into local Chinese universities, so they choose to study abroad, in Western schools and universities. But it doesn't change the fact that China produces more STEM graduates than any other in the world.
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou how long ago was that article written?" Dated to September 2020, the article's title is The Canada-China Global Commerce Picture and Supply Chain Links by Government of Canada.
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@comment sense Why are you contradicting yourself, when you boasted earlier: "神州 Shenzhou CHEAP LABOUR ARE FOUND WORLD WIDE. TONS OF CHEAP LABOR WORLD WIDE." now you're claiming _"usa really needs china because no other countries can provide cheap labor."? Which one is it?
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@comment sense Speaking of train tracks, China is home to the world's largest high-speed railway network, surpassing even Japan's Shinkansen hi-speed rail in terms of track length. Our high-speed trains are very fast, the journeys smooth and enjoyable. Passengers even tried balancing a coin on its edge while in a train traveling at 350 kph and the coin remained balanced. Countries by High-Speed Railway Construction (2019) 1. China (38,207 km) 2. Spain (5,525 km) 3. France (3,870 km) 4. Germany (3,596 km) 5. Japan (3,422 km) 6. Russia (2,026 km) 7. United Kingdom (1,997 km) 8. Italy (1,697 km) 9. South Korea (1,481 km) 10. Finland (744 km) ... Source: YouTube: High-Speed Railway (HSR) Construction by Country (1965-2019)
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@comment sense You said: "can't they innovate? what is keeping them away from innovation?" There's many factors at play. Firstly, low income groups often have to work multiple jobs, who has the time to innovate when they are so busy putting food on the table? Secondly, the capitalist society is designed such that capital is needed to kickstart innovation, and that is something that many low-income groups simply lack. Lastly, education plays a factor, and many low income groups are unable to afford the expensive school fees necessary for a higher education to broaden their minds. In short, money is the problem here. Education is the cornerstone of economic and social development, which is why Marxists argue in favour of free, decent education for everyone – so that individuals and society as a whole can maximise the potential for improving our lives through innovation, efficiency and imagination.
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@comment sense You said: "those who are talented and work hard better keep up because there are people looking for free stuff." Low-income groups work harder than anyone else, sometimes taking on multiple jobs just to stay afloat, and their contributes to society are immense whether its just keeping our streets cleans, growing our food and delivering food, fixing and maintaining pipelines and electricity cables, building houses, etc.
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@comment sense You said: "those who are talented and work hard better keep up because there are people looking for free stuff." Low-income groups work harder than anyone else, sometimes taking on multiple jobs just to stay afloat, and their contributes to society are immense whether its just keeping our streets cleans, growing our food and delivering food, fixing and maintaining pipelines and electricity cables, building houses, etc. The capitalist way of thinking has taught you to despise people who are poor, to tell you that they deserve what they deserve.
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@Andy-P But I'm glad your statement suggested that there are at least some in the West who would have picked (D) President Xi Jinping as their leader.
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@comment sense You said: "what do people need you ask? people need a car, a truck, food, a house, etc." Yes, but even though our manufacturing capability is able to make enough food, cars, housing, schools, hospitals, etc, why is it we still have starving people, homeless people, illiteracy, people lacking access to affordable healthcare, and people who have to worry about rising gas prices? Isn't there are better way to redistribute the Earth's limited resources rather than let capitalism do the dividing?
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@comment sense I've already discussed this point with you. The Earth's resources are indeed limited but under capitalism, there is no regard for sustainability, nor welfare of the workers, nor the environmental impact. It's the overproduction of goods in pursuit of profits, with the end goal being the eventual depletion of the Earth's resources. It's a pity, because our modern industrial capabilities allow us to produce enough food, medicine, houses, schools, for everyone on the planet. Yet we still have starving people, homeless people, illiteracy, people lacking access to adequate healthcare. Communism is the belief that every resource should be allocated to the people according to needs. As the Marxist saying goes: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". Imagine if we had a system that distributes material needs according to the urgency.
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@srisivaraman8063 If that's so, then why is it many Chinese people tend to be optimistic and look forward to a bright future ahead, whereas many Westerners tend to be pessimistic and have a gloomy outlook of the future?
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@MarkYeung1 You said: "神州 Shenzhou polls conducted by the Strait Times showing that 95% of Singaporeans support the sanctions towards Russia." The figure is incorrect. The Blackbox poll poll found that 95%of 1,711 Singaporeans interviewed supported or sympathised most closely with Ukraine. With respect to sanctions on Russia, the move was supported by 60% of Singaporeans polled by Blackbox, with 35% saying they were unsure or had no opinion. Did you actually read the poll carefully?
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@MarkYeung1 You said: "Singaporean government listened to its people" Actually, Singapore government slapped those sanctions on Russia without prior consent of ordinary Singaporeans. The poll that 6 out of 10 Singaporeans supported sanctions, was conducted only after the sanctions have been imposed.
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@Andy-P "神州 Shenzhou Singapore is surrounded by much larger countries." From what I understand, Singapore has actually threatened to invade larger countries like Malaysia if ever their water supply is ever cut off. Another thing is that Russia is so far away from Singapore, and while some ASEAN countries have condemned Russia's special military operation, only Singapore has slapped sanctions on Russia, thus earning Singapore a place on Russia's blacklist of unfriendly countries.
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@KH-cs7sj You said: " 400k depositors of Henan banks lost all their deposit totalling 30 billion yuan" Those money have not been lost, they are frozen due to links to financial corruption. On July 12, the China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission announced it would start reimbursing account holders, with deposits of up to 50,000 yuan ($7,400) being the first to be returned. You said: "four Chinese women were beaten to death in Tangshan and the government still haven't disclosed whether they are alive." What are the names of those four Chinese women who were allegedly beaten to death? You said: "But at least the society as a whole reckons and corrects the mistake." What corrections have been made to U.S police services after the death of George Floyd? Other African Americans like Breonna Taylor and Rayshard Brooks have been killed by the police still.
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@MarkYeung1 Many Chinese are interested in learning about the West, traveling overseas (i.e Chinese tourists) and studying overseas (i.e Chinese students) but it appears that many Westerners (but not all) tend to believe what Western MSM says about China without bothering to set foot in the country itself.
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Fourth is trust as well.
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@KH-cs7sj "神州 Shenzhou I inferred your view on human rights based on how you are content with satisfying basic needs." Did I ever said that I'm content with satisfying basic needs? I never even said anything about my own view in this thread, yet you just jump to conclusions without knowing anything of my views? You said: "If anything, it shows how US is willing to deploy its military to help its people with basic day-to-day needs." The U.S military have also been deployed in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, which don't really offer much to American people in terms of basic day-to-day needs. You said: "On the contrary, I remember poisonous milk powder was a big problem in China up until recently and Chinese parents still don't trust homemade formula brand until now." The Sanlu Milk Scandal was in 2008, that's litearlly 14 years ago, how is that considered recent? The shortage of milk powder in the U.S is a recent thing, but why are you bring up events from over a decade ago and calling it recent?
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@KH-cs7sj You said: "Your view on human right is quite narrow." Did I ever mention my view on human rights here in this thread? Then how can you claim that my view is quite narrow? If by hogs you are referring to the "kapitalist pigs" then we are in agreement that they have grown beyond the need for subsistence, which you have defined as "supporting oneself at a minimum level". But China's view is that if this simple human need is absent, then all other human rights pale in comparison. What's the point of being able to vote, if you don't have access to infant formula for your babies?
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@physika China only resent the fact that European countries are letting themselves be used as pawns by the U.S to maintain their hegemonic rule, through the use of NATO expansion to contain Russia (and possibly turning their sights onto China next).
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China's "expanding field of influence" is facilitating the global transition towards a multi-polar world dominated by multiple voices, rather than the uni-polar world dominated by a single voice, that of the U.S and their allies.
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@Andy-P Those so-called 14 "demands" were grievances, NOT demands, they represent China's side of the deteriorating relations between Australia and China, and could act as a starting ground for further negotiations to improve our relationship. If both sides want to salvage a relationship, then of course we have to know what the other is thinking, and China merely laid bare the grievances that were undermining the relations.
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@MarkYeung1 You said: "Regime change. That must be why Carrie Lam was unable to run a second term." As far as I know, Carrie Lam herself choose not to seek a second term, that doesn't necessarily mean she was unable to run for a second term. Do you have evidence that Carrie Lam was unable to run a second term like you claimed?
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@MarkYeung1 "神州 Shenzhou I was replying to a comment regarding China's understand of regime change." I read the comment you were replying to, and mansana was saying "China understands very well the western intention of regime change" so what has Hong Kong Chief Executive even got to do with it?
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@MarkYeung1 "神州 Shenzhou when hong kong was returned to China, freedoms of press and speech (among others) were promised to Hong Kong people." That's why Hong Kong was ranked among the world's most freest according to freedom indices like Index of Freedom in the World (Hong Kong score: 8.81), Economic Freedom of the World (Hong Kong score: 8.91) and so on. So Hong Kong actually enjoyed many freedoms AFTER the 1997 return back to mainland China, of which they didn't have for 150 years as a British colony before.
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@MarkYeung1 You said: "Given hong kong is part of China, that means western style freedoms (human rights) exist in Chinese lands, whether Beijing likes it or not." This is part of the "colonial mentality" that the people in many former colonies still suffer from as a result of being colonized by the West. For 150 years as a British colony, Hong Kong did not enjoy democracy and virtually no elections were held by the people in Hong Kong. Only during the period of Hong Kong's 1997 return to mainland China, did Hong Kong people finally get to vote in elections for their favorite leaders, under the One Country, Two System policy proposed by China. And this is in spite of the fact that after Hong Kong's return, it is within the mainland's right to implement whatever system they want on Hong Kong, since Hong Kong is part of China after all. Yet the Beijing government relented and specially allowed a separate governing system for Hong Kong. No Western democracy would allow another part of their country to be governed by a separate system.
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@MarkYeung1 "神州 Shenzhou why does Western want a regime change in Hong Kong?" The Western powers want to use Hong Kong as a pawn to cause trouble for the mainland and contain China's rise, so they've given support to Hong Kong separatists to stir up trouble. So what has this got to do with whether Hong Kong Chief Executives finish 2 terms or not?
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@MarkYeung1 "神州 Shenzhou you totally missed my point. Hong Kong people enjoys FREEDOMS before and after the handover that mainland doesn't have." That's the symptom of the "colonial mentality" that continues to plague many in Hong Kong, long after the British left Hong Kong. Hong Kong did not enjoy democracy for 150 years as a British colony, and they achieved their freedom rankings and held more elections AFTER the 1997 handover back to mainland China. It seems that even after British physically decolonized from Hong Kong, many in Hong Kong still need to have a "decolonization of the mind" in order to break free from this way of thinking.
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@MarkYeung1 "神州 Shenzhou But is it still the same freedoms now after the National security laws?" As far as I know, Hong Kong still have their own government separate from the mainland government. Hong Kong have their own Hong Kong currency, their own Hong Kong passport, their own elections and what not, so how is Hong Kong freedom impacted? Also, Hong Kong was long overdue for a National Security Law, every state needs one. Even the U.S made use of their own National Security Law during the Jan 6th Capitol Hill riots.
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@MarkYeung1 Just like the U.S National Security Law impacted the freedoms of Americans. Hong Kong's National Security Law is required under Hong Kong Basic Law Article 23 (香港基本法第二十三條) to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government (aka Beijing) and also to prohibit foreign political organizations or bodies from conducting political activities in the Region. This was stated as part of Hong Kong Basic Law, so the National Security Law actually fulfills the this article.
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@tigermacan3474 Yes. Look no further than Saudi Arabia and Israel, both of whom have questionable human rights records, and yet the United States openly supports them regardless. It just goes to show that Western can selectively apply human rights when it suits their agenda, but this mark yeung guy seems to have the "colonial mentality" of blindly worshiping Anglo-Saxon culture while seemingly harboring a disdain for anything "non-white."
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@comment sense "神州 Shenzhou so what you are saying is that those people with low income due to little abilities should get all the free stuff according to their needs from the hard work of those with abilities." There are indeed low income people who have little abilities (like for example, the elderly and the handicapped) and its apparent that their needs are oftentimes greater than those of young healthy workers. The thing is why should humanity be so heartless towards these people? Everyone grows old eventually, and people with handicap didn't ask for this advantage. Communism is proposing is to "meet their basic needs," of these disadvantaged people that's all. Surely human progress has advanced to the point where we can prioritise the welfare of less fortunate people, rather than constantly pursue profits?
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