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@ever-fh4qf forced marriages are common within Western culture? Are you insane? That's a largely Islamic thing. Give me one example of it happening within European/Western culture. What does domestic abuse have to with it? It's not as if domestic abuse isn't illegal , is it?
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@ever-fh4qf "it still happens"...yeah and it isn't Westerners doing it. It's only migrants. So again, this isn't a Western issue.
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@ever-fh4qf yes and it's migrants who uphold arranged marriages within Western societies. Why don't you address that?
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@ever-fh4qf no it doesn't. Again, show me evidence...you can't because you have none. You just showed a link to a Wiki page which says that people still do it. I never said that they didn't, it's just only certain groups of people doing it.
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@ever-fh4qf in other parts of the world which should be fixed. In the West for example it isn't true.
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@ever-fh4qf it's a problem within migrant communities in Europe. Are you happy now?
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@ever-fh4qf only migrants/those of migrant descent do it. Show me modern day examples of forced marriages being a thing within native populations in Europe...
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@ever-fh4qf "minority religious groups", there's your answer... is that somehow common now? Is Mormonism the dominant culture/religion in the States or are they largely seen as backwards?
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@ever-fh4qf so not arranged marriages, then? Just "pressure"? Sounds like an individual issue that they need to work out for themselves then. If they get married because of "pressure" (whatever that means" then it's their fault.
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@ever-fh4qf you didn't give evidence. You put a Wiki page which said it happens, but I provided stats to show which groups actually do it. If you're going to address it then address it to the groups in which actually happens.
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@ever-fh4qf In 2019, the FMU handled cases relating to 66 ‘focus countries’ 1 , excluding the UK. The seven ‘focus countries’ with the highest number of cases in 2019 were: • Pakistan - 559 cases (41%) • Bangladesh - 144 cases (11%) • India - 65 cases (5%) • Afghanistan - 54 cases (4%) • Somalia2 - 31 cases (2%) • Iraq - 23 cases (2%) • Romania - 22 cases (2%) The proportion of cases relating to Pakistan has decreased a little compared with the previous year. The number of cases linked to Somalia rose notably in 2017 (91 cases) but dipped back down in 2018 (38 cases) and has stayed broadly in line with this figure in 2019. There has been a decrease in the number of cases linked to Romania, compared with 2018 (37 cases).
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@ever-fh4qf part of history. It's not like that now.
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@ever-fh4qf I have NEVER, EVER heard of an English family having an arranged marriage and I have lived here all of my life.
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@ever-fh4qf you are sheltered and spoilt. You fail to acknowledge what is an issue with certain groups because you're afraid of being called racist.
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@onlythereal3233 women initiate about 80% of divorces.
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@ever-fh4qf either way you specifically mentioned arranged/forced marriages for the West as if it's a serious issue, which we have established it largely isn't. However, it is an issue within other cultures which do find ways of cropping into Western societies.
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@ever-fh4qf if you have to use extreme, ultra rare examples to prove your point then your point is pretty weak.
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@ever-fh4qf so no modern Europeans do arranged marriage other than a few royalty and aristocracy...yeah, great example of some made up "oppression".
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@ever-fh4qf again, it happens. Just amongst certain groups only. WHERE does it say that it happens amongst the native population?
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@ever-fh4qf give me a modern example of it happening amongst native populations in Europe. I already said it happens, just amongst certain communities which is an issue and needs to be addressed. Arranged marriages are different to forced marriages anyway.
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@ever-fh4qf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_marriage#Germany
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@hananokuni2580 Yes, you're right. It is very common amongst different cultures.
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@ever-fh4qf although just because European people/countries are against arranged marriages we should really stay out of other culture's business.
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@ever-fh4qf I get that you are arguing off of emotions because you hate Europeans it seems, but this is just weird.
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@ever-fh4qf why even bring it up then if you even admit that it's not a large issue?
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@ever-fh4qf if it happens among certain communities (forced marriages) then it should be addressed.
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@ever-fh4qf what "rich people"? Give examples other than migrant examples.
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@ever-fh4qf you still listed arranged marriage as an example of oppression while I fail to see how it is. In fact migrant families (South Asian in particular) tend to be much stronger and tight knit than white families, it may partly be due to white people not participating in arranged marriages. So who knows?
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@ever-fh4qf which is largely a tradition in other cultures...
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@ever-fh4qf just face it, you used a really poor example. If it was practiced amongst modern Western Europeans you would have a point.
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@ever-fh4qf right...and is the average person royalty? Is it all forced?
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@ever-fh4qf you were the one that brought it up as though arranged marriage is a serious issue in the West when it isn't. I used incest as an example as it's a common practice amongst arranged marriage communities.
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@ever-fh4qf I'll admit that arranged/forced marriages are a big problem in certain communities within Western societies (I never denied that they don't happen, but we all know which communities do them).
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@ever-fh4qf yeah you're right bro.. Arranged marriage is such a big part of European culture. We need to address this.
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@ever-fh4qf either way, forced marriage is still a problem amongst migrant communities which should be addressed. You were the one who brought up arranged marriage as somehow a sign od oppression of women you wally. A few royalties do it and now all of a problem it's indicative of whole Western society? Lmao.
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@ever-fh4qf yes and it is a factor affecting particular communities, ie certain South Asians here in the UK. You're talking about something which affects like 0.0000000000001% of ethnic Europeans.
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@ever-fh4qf you'll find that it's other cultures who only really practice it. Sure, SOME aristocracy/royalty might be you'd be really clutching at straws there.
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@ever-fh4qf yes it exists amongst certain communities which we have established. You just seem to want to clutch at straws. Lol I'd honestly be surprised if there was one normal European family who participates in it, but believe whatever you want bro. Keep thinking you "won", which isn't even the point of a discussion. Do you have any real examples of oppression?
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@ever-fh4qf you're the one who claimed that it was a big part of Western culture...I asked for evidence. You provided none.
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@ever-fh4qf yeah you're right, forced/arranged marriages are an integral part of my culture (English) and I find it very offensive that you should dare question it...
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@ever-fh4qf not the general population, though...
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@ever-fh4qf also, where is incest/cousin marriage an issue? Which community?
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@ever-fh4qf yes, we have established that it "still happens", just amongst certain groups which I have already shown you. They will be the ones they are talking about.
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@ever-fh4qf lol the British Royal Family hardly even do it anymore. Where did I say that aristocracy doesn't exist in the West you ****? Undocumented times? So in other words you have no evidence or proof? Lol.
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@ever-fh4qf they don't exist in the groups I told you. Only rarely in the aristocracy which is what you said. Regular white British people don't do it lmao.
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@ever-fh4qf even if there were a very weird case of an arranged marriage within an English family, are you telling me that the son or daughter are really that pathetic that they don't have a choice?
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@ever-fh4qf my family are thinking of putting me in an arranged marriage (typical for European culture), what should I do?
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@ever-fh4qf well yeah, you genuinely believe that arranged marriage is a thing in modern European culture.
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@ever-fh4qf only amongst certain groups. Even our royalty barely does it anymore.
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@ever-fh4qf I said it happens among migrant communities who live here, which it does. So therefore it does happen. You were trying to use it as an example of some "oppression of women" and "toxic patriarchy", both of which are nonsense. Why don't you talk about real oppression of women like forced marriages, public stonings, being second class citizens, etc which happens in other cultures? Are you scared of looking "racist"?
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@ever-fh4qf arranged marriage isn't oppression.
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@ever-fh4qf arranged marriages are different to forced ones. Only migrant groups. practices forced marriages here. Public stonings do happen though... "Lost", the fact that you're trying to say that this is some kind of a competition is laughable. Women are not oppressed in the West. You have never given examples. It you marry because of family pressure then that's your fault entirely.
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@ever-fh4qf forced marriages do exist in some cultures and communities, so yes it is still practiced. Sexism to women might exist, as it does to men. That isn't oppression.
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@ever-fh4qf how is sexism oppression? Your average person doesn't have any power and so can't actually "oppress" someone.
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@ever-fh4qf lol sounds like a pretty pathetic example. Maybe grow a backbone and it won't happen.
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@ever-fh4qf neither are you. "Oppression" is systematic and needs to have actual power. Saying mean words isn't oppression.
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@ever-fh4qf why don't you talk about forced marriages, stonings, etc in parts of the world where it is an actual problem? I've looked back at your first comments and you mentioned forced marriages as it's practiced by native Europeans lmao. If you genuinely believe that then you're absolutely deluded.
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@ever-fh4qf where am I wrong? Please show me. I have actually researched this unlike you who just makes up "oppression" to suit your argument. Forced marriage is a migrant problem. You might be too scared/weak to admit it but it doesn't mean it isn't a fact.
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@ever-fh4qf rather than arguing based on emotion why don't you just give up?
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@ever-fh4qf so what about the women who abuse men? Are they part of it too? Arranged marriage is part of the culture for many countries around the world, but not in the West...
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@ever-fh4qf why can't you just accept that it's a migrant problem? Why does that scare you? You haven't given any evidence that force marriages happen with native Euros.
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@ever-fh4qf yeah second generation migrants... People of migrant descent.
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@ever-fh4qf you haven't given any facts. I've continually shown you which groups commit forced marriages and yet you're too seemingly weak/scared to admit that it's a migrant problem. Why does that scare you so much?
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@ever-fh4qf show me ONE case where it happens with non migrants. Just one...
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@ever-fh4qf you probably live in a gated community and barely know about the real world. EVERYONE knows which cultures/groups commit forced marriages. You're too scared of looking "racist" (which doesn't even mean anything) and weak (probably physically and mentally) that you can't even admit that it's an issue. LOOK AT THE STATISTICS. WHERE did I say that all of the world's problems should be pushed onto migrants? I said that this is a unique issue within migrant communities, which it is. If, like you say, people are "pressured" into getting married by their families and they do get married (which isn't forced marriage) then they are just pathetic.
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@ever-fh4qf you are a racist against my culture...you are mocking the English/European way of life where arranged marriages are a huge custom. How dare you!?
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@ever-fh4qf you're just a spoiled, sheltered brat judging by your comments. You are too scared to appear "racist" and so you make up oppression. Go out and experience the real world and see for yourself who is practicing this so called "oppression".
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@ever-fh4qf it might be a Western issue because migrants/other cultures do it in their countries, but it isn't a part of the culture. If you claim that then you're just a liar.
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@ever-fh4qf you never gave examples of forced marriages happening in British culture amongst actual natives.
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@ever-fh4qf no, I just came across this video again and remembered. You didn't win anything, you made up "oppression" probably due to a strange victim complex. Even if there were an example of a forced marriage amongst natives I would legit feel no sympathy for them if it were only due to "family pressure". If they're that pathetic to get married over that then that's their fault.
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@ever-fh4qf I haven't shown any racism or sexism. You're just making stuff up. I think you just have a victim complex.
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@ever-fh4qf you didn't insult me. If acknowledging real life issues is racism then so be it.
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@ever-fh4qf you spoke as if it were an issue that needs addressing, it only needs addressing in certain migrant communities as it's so prevalent. That's undeniable.
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@ever-fh4qf are you denying that it needs addressing in certain communities?
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@ever-fh4qf offensive to who?
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@ever-fh4qf who cares if you offend people? Feelings don't matter. Just because you yourself have been sheltered and spoiled your whole life doesn't mean that you're exempt from being offended.
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@ever-fh4qf so you're denying that it needs addressing in certain communities?
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@ever-fh4qf arranged marriages aren't a problem. They're a big part of cultures within South Asian cultures in particular. It is part of other cultures. That is different to forced marriages which are a major issue and should be addressed.
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@ever-fh4qf you claimed that arranged marriages are a sign of "oppression"...they're not. Loads of south Asian people I know have had arranged marriages and they were often able to choose. Again, it's just part of their culture. It's different to English/European culture as it seems alien, but as long as they're not forced then it's fine.
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@ever-fh4qf you showed no evidence. Why do you dislike arranged marriages so much? Sure, they're a big part in other cultures (South and East Asian, African, etc), but as I said as long as they're not forced there is no issue. It's different to what we're used to and native Europeans don't really understand them, but as I said other cultures have their customs.
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@ever-fh4qf your original point was on "oppression" and used arranged marriages as an example. That is NOT oppression.
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@ever-fh4qf then that needs addressing in cultures where it happens and is common (i.e. South Asian and East Asian). Most I know were absolutely fine with it. However, in many of these cultures the women do not get much of a say and cannot go against their families, and in particular their father's, wishes.
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@ever-fh4qf forced/arranged marriages is a very, very bizarre example to use in terms of "oppression" in the West/Britain. As I said I have zero sympathy for a British person who is in a forced marriage, if they even exist.
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@ever-fh4qf East Asian or South Asian women in forced marriages I feel sorry for ofc. I however feel no sympathy for Europeans if they partake in it (if they even exist). They have the law and culture on their side.
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@ever-fh4qf so you think that white people partake in arranged marriages?
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@ever-fh4qf so you can't give any examples...
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@ever-fh4qf give an example...
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@ever-fh4qf circumstantial to everyone...just ask people. You don't know anything about the UK and yet you're here telling me about our culture and what happens here?
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@ever-fh4qf for some reason YouTube deletes my comments. Probably to avoid offending spoiled, sheltered people like you... I keep on posting stats from the Home Office but it always gets pulled...
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@ever-fh4qf your main issue is is that you've been very sheltered your whole life.
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@ever-fh4qf are patriarchies a bad thing?
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@ever-fh4qf I have found facts, just YouTube kept deleting comments with the links. I haven't once insulted you, I was making an observation. You are most likely spoiled and sheltered with very limited real life experience. You also know nothing about the UK.
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@ever-fh4qf as we have established: it happens in Europe but only amongst certain communities.
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@ever-fh4qf you haven't posted any "facts" yourself.
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@ever-fh4qf yes amongst certain communities, ie migrants. Royalty too to an extent. But you claiming that it's a massive part of our culture is hilarious.
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@ever-fh4qf if it were part of the culture and arranged marriages were promoted then maybe you'd have a point. But the fact that you're trying to claim that arranged marriages are a symptom of oppression in the UK for example is absolutely hilarious.
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@ever-fh4qf you've argued on emotion mostly, maybe because you want to feel oppressed due to your victim complex due to the fact that you have had such a spoiled and sheltered upbringing. I pulled up stats from the HOME OFFICE.
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@ever-fh4qf Irish/Romani Gypsy, African (Nigeria, Ghana, Somali, Algerian), Pakistan, Bangladesh. And the English/British Monarchy I think still practice it. These are the only groups that practice it here. So that means that this so called "oppression" is being exported here...
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@ever-fh4qf the royals sometimes do it here, I'll give you that. The common English? No chance at all.
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@ever-fh4qf because you were talking about oppression over here...
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@ever-fh4qf you've never been to the UK nor do you have much life experience. I can tell you that ZERO English common people do it.
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@ever-fh4qf it's a part of other cultures, most in the world in fact.
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@ever-fh4qf so what if America hasn't had one female president? What on earth does that prove?
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@ever-fh4qf zero common English people do it, yes.
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@ever-fh4qf go back to crying about made up "oppression". Far more important things in the world than made up oppression. You have never given any examples of oppression, just individual issues.
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@ever-fh4qf you never gave an example of commoners in the UK doing it, so your point is invalid. Why can't you just admit that it's only done by migrant groups and the aristocracy here? Are you that scared due to being pampered and spoilt your entire life?
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@ever-fh4qf you claiming that it's a major part of European/British culture doesn't change anything if you have no evidence/examples.
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@ever-fh4qf "I never said it was about the general population besides, I'm sure that happens as well except in the form of parents pressuring etc. Dont ask for an example because they're mostly undocumented", this is what you said which is absurd. Therefore you have no examples of it happening amongst the commoner native British population despite you claiming that it's a major part of the culture.
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@ever-fh4qf my family might disown me because I don't want to partake in a arranged marriage. What should I do?
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@ever-fh4qf forced marriages don't exist in Western culture, only Islamic and Eastern cultures.
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@dinuxplay8003 forced or arranged marriages exist in Eastern cultures.
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@dinuxplay8003 they don't exist in Western ones. The girl above said that they're an integral part of English culture for example.
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@ever-fh4qf reading the conversation above...out of interest do you automatically assume that white people who are married have done so via an arranged marriage when you meet them?
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@lovegood01 women are sociopaths. They lack empathy
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@hananokuni2580 obviously...I never said that they weren't. Why are you telling me this? That wasn't even my argument...
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@hananokuni2580 arranged marriages occur within other cultures. I'm not sure why people are trying to bring up Europeans when it isn't something we do.
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@hananokuni2580 Western society is neither anymore tbh.
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@hananokuni2580 The person above claimed that in Europe, all marriages are arranged. It only happens amongst royalty and certain immigrant groups. It's impossible to happen amongst the common native population.
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@ever-fh4qf I said it happens, just not amongst the native population of Europe. How is this difficult to understand?
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