Comments by "David W" (@DavidW-ng5zv) on "VICE Life" channel.

  1.  @ever-fh4qf  forced marriages are common within Western culture? Are you insane? That's a largely Islamic thing. Give me one example of it happening within European/Western culture. What does domestic abuse have to with it? It's not as if domestic abuse isn't illegal , is it?
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  2.  @ever-fh4qf  "it still happens"...yeah and it isn't Westerners doing it. It's only migrants. So again, this isn't a Western issue.
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  3.  @ever-fh4qf  yes and it's migrants who uphold arranged marriages within Western societies. Why don't you address that?
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  4.  @ever-fh4qf  no it doesn't. Again, show me evidence...you can't because you have none. You just showed a link to a Wiki page which says that people still do it. I never said that they didn't, it's just only certain groups of people doing it.
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  5.  @ever-fh4qf  in other parts of the world which should be fixed. In the West for example it isn't true.
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  6.  @ever-fh4qf  it's a problem within migrant communities in Europe. Are you happy now?
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  7.  @ever-fh4qf  only migrants/those of migrant descent do it. Show me modern day examples of forced marriages being a thing within native populations in Europe...
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  8.  @ever-fh4qf  "minority religious groups", there's your answer... is that somehow common now? Is Mormonism the dominant culture/religion in the States or are they largely seen as backwards?
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  9.  @ever-fh4qf  so not arranged marriages, then? Just "pressure"? Sounds like an individual issue that they need to work out for themselves then. If they get married because of "pressure" (whatever that means" then it's their fault.
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  10.  @ever-fh4qf  you didn't give evidence. You put a Wiki page which said it happens, but I provided stats to show which groups actually do it. If you're going to address it then address it to the groups in which actually happens.
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  11.  @ever-fh4qf  In 2019, the FMU handled cases relating to 66 ‘focus countries’ 1 , excluding the UK. The seven ‘focus countries’ with the highest number of cases in 2019 were: • Pakistan - 559 cases (41%) • Bangladesh - 144 cases (11%) • India - 65 cases (5%) • Afghanistan - 54 cases (4%) • Somalia2 - 31 cases (2%) • Iraq - 23 cases (2%) • Romania - 22 cases (2%) The proportion of cases relating to Pakistan has decreased a little compared with the previous year. The number of cases linked to Somalia rose notably in 2017 (91 cases) but dipped back down in 2018 (38 cases) and has stayed broadly in line with this figure in 2019. There has been a decrease in the number of cases linked to Romania, compared with 2018 (37 cases).
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  12.  @ever-fh4qf  part of history. It's not like that now.
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  13.  @ever-fh4qf  I have NEVER, EVER heard of an English family having an arranged marriage and I have lived here all of my life.
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  14.  @ever-fh4qf  you are sheltered and spoilt. You fail to acknowledge what is an issue with certain groups because you're afraid of being called racist.
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  15.  @onlythereal3233  women initiate about 80% of divorces.
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  16.  @ever-fh4qf  either way you specifically mentioned arranged/forced marriages for the West as if it's a serious issue, which we have established it largely isn't. However, it is an issue within other cultures which do find ways of cropping into Western societies.
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  17.  @ever-fh4qf  if you have to use extreme, ultra rare examples to prove your point then your point is pretty weak.
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  18.  @ever-fh4qf  so no modern Europeans do arranged marriage other than a few royalty and aristocracy...yeah, great example of some made up "oppression".
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  19.  @ever-fh4qf  again, it happens. Just amongst certain groups only. WHERE does it say that it happens amongst the native population?
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  20.  @ever-fh4qf  give me a modern example of it happening amongst native populations in Europe. I already said it happens, just amongst certain communities which is an issue and needs to be addressed. Arranged marriages are different to forced marriages anyway.
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  21.  @ever-fh4qf  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_marriage#Germany
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  22.  @hananokuni2580  Yes, you're right. It is very common amongst different cultures.
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  23.  @ever-fh4qf  although just because European people/countries are against arranged marriages we should really stay out of other culture's business.
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  24.  @ever-fh4qf  I get that you are arguing off of emotions because you hate Europeans it seems, but this is just weird.
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  25.  @ever-fh4qf  why even bring it up then if you even admit that it's not a large issue?
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  26.  @ever-fh4qf  if it happens among certain communities (forced marriages) then it should be addressed.
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  27.  @ever-fh4qf  what "rich people"? Give examples other than migrant examples.
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  28.  @ever-fh4qf  you still listed arranged marriage as an example of oppression while I fail to see how it is. In fact migrant families (South Asian in particular) tend to be much stronger and tight knit than white families, it may partly be due to white people not participating in arranged marriages. So who knows?
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  29.  @ever-fh4qf  which is largely a tradition in other cultures...
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  30.  @ever-fh4qf  just face it, you used a really poor example. If it was practiced amongst modern Western Europeans you would have a point.
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  31.  @ever-fh4qf  right...and is the average person royalty? Is it all forced?
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  32.  @ever-fh4qf  you were the one that brought it up as though arranged marriage is a serious issue in the West when it isn't. I used incest as an example as it's a common practice amongst arranged marriage communities.
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  33.  @ever-fh4qf  I'll admit that arranged/forced marriages are a big problem in certain communities within Western societies (I never denied that they don't happen, but we all know which communities do them).
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  34.  @ever-fh4qf  yeah you're right bro.. Arranged marriage is such a big part of European culture. We need to address this.
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  35.  @ever-fh4qf  either way, forced marriage is still a problem amongst migrant communities which should be addressed. You were the one who brought up arranged marriage as somehow a sign od oppression of women you wally. A few royalties do it and now all of a problem it's indicative of whole Western society? Lmao.
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  36.  @ever-fh4qf  yes and it is a factor affecting particular communities, ie certain South Asians here in the UK. You're talking about something which affects like 0.0000000000001% of ethnic Europeans.
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  37.  @ever-fh4qf  you'll find that it's other cultures who only really practice it. Sure, SOME aristocracy/royalty might be you'd be really clutching at straws there.
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  38.  @ever-fh4qf  yes it exists amongst certain communities which we have established. You just seem to want to clutch at straws. Lol I'd honestly be surprised if there was one normal European family who participates in it, but believe whatever you want bro. Keep thinking you "won", which isn't even the point of a discussion. Do you have any real examples of oppression?
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  39.  @ever-fh4qf  you're the one who claimed that it was a big part of Western culture...I asked for evidence. You provided none.
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  40.  @ever-fh4qf  yeah you're right, forced/arranged marriages are an integral part of my culture (English) and I find it very offensive that you should dare question it...
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  41.  @ever-fh4qf  not the general population, though...
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  42.  @ever-fh4qf  also, where is incest/cousin marriage an issue? Which community?
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  43.  @ever-fh4qf  yes, we have established that it "still happens", just amongst certain groups which I have already shown you. They will be the ones they are talking about.
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  44.  @ever-fh4qf  lol the British Royal Family hardly even do it anymore. Where did I say that aristocracy doesn't exist in the West you ****? Undocumented times? So in other words you have no evidence or proof? Lol.
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  45.  @ever-fh4qf  they don't exist in the groups I told you. Only rarely in the aristocracy which is what you said. Regular white British people don't do it lmao.
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  46.  @ever-fh4qf  even if there were a very weird case of an arranged marriage within an English family, are you telling me that the son or daughter are really that pathetic that they don't have a choice?
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  47.  @ever-fh4qf  my family are thinking of putting me in an arranged marriage (typical for European culture), what should I do?
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  48.  @ever-fh4qf  well yeah, you genuinely believe that arranged marriage is a thing in modern European culture.
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  49.  @ever-fh4qf  only amongst certain groups. Even our royalty barely does it anymore.
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  50.  @ever-fh4qf  I said it happens among migrant communities who live here, which it does. So therefore it does happen. You were trying to use it as an example of some "oppression of women" and "toxic patriarchy", both of which are nonsense. Why don't you talk about real oppression of women like forced marriages, public stonings, being second class citizens, etc which happens in other cultures? Are you scared of looking "racist"?
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