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Comments by "Commentary Talk" (@commentarytalk1446) on "Why Foreign Men Struggle Dating In Japan" video.
@unixtreme This is correct: It is necessary to learn the language before "higher ambitions" might be more possible!
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Personally speaking, I always felt that way: That a dating/courting phase was fundamentally a prelude to a deeper, longer relationship that might then lead to marriage. I never accepted the "casual dating" / "fling" culture of my own nation. I feel my attitude aligns with the Japanese convention you describe. I don't think it is a "neutral" statement to say it is "outdated". Marriage in former times was considered a "Sacrament" or some other higher value equivalent. The implications of successful marriage are leading to successful family creation (between two families) and then the successful development of children. It's a very important consideration for life along with: 1. Job 2. House 3. Marriage/Family. In that progression statement, it makes sense. But clearly it is a challenge to be successful at.
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@zhivago9286 I think you are correct. It's the same in India from my experience and even more so in Muslims.
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@earlysda Yes of course exceptions exist. However in visiting the country as per the general stats given, it is "necessary" based on improving those stats. Even in Takashii's other videos, the comment of "not wanting to date a foreigner" is followed by the reason, "Because of understanding difficulties". So I suggest watching those videos as evidence of "necessary" being a very helpful success multiplier!
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It's interesting how opinions vary. I much prefer the formal approach. Imagine your date turning up in a dressing-gown and slippers ala "The Dude" from The Big Lebowski !
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@J Anda Wait by that view, the Japanese of 40-50 years ago held this view even more strongly yet comparing fertility rates then to today: 1800 = 4 children per woman, 1930 = >5 children per women, 1960-2020 = sharp decline from 4 to 1.2 or so. Now, that data does not show any correlation to your assertion given if anything Japanese views have changed on marriage and romance. Looking at the graph, the biggest drop in fertility occurs with the post-war industrial growth and modern economy of Japan. This seems to explain the reduction in fertility more closely looking at the data albeit it is a correlation not causation which would require more research.
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@FSVR54 That might help or might be the only realistic option for foreigners if they don't speak Japanese. But language is the portal to culture and if is possible it will surely open up interaction with many more types of people. Again, many comments on Takashii's videos have suggested that having some command of the language is so so helpful for many reasons: Housing, Employment, Meeting and making Japanese friends, Dating and more... And again, learning the language is also a significant step in understanding the culture and thence the people themselves more.
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@earlysda Yes, you are right! I totally agree with you. However the original post was done in a spirit of "emphatic encouragement" to promote the concept of really trying hard to LEARN THE LANGUAGE and was emotive more than descriptive. So although you are literally correct, you failed to appreciate the nuance of persuasion I was using. Hope this helps! Gambate!
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@earlysda It will probably help not just with interaction but with success rate if a long-term relationship develops also. Thus generally speaking it is necessary. For sure exceptions exist.
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@earlysda No, you are wrong, I am delighted: You helped me and I helped you! Both right and wrong combine to benefit in perfect harmony. An error would be an avoidable mistake but no mistake was made though I appreciate the liberties I took to improve my message via mood and less via meaning, had a powerful impact on you!
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@earlysda LOL. My last visit to Japan I did not speak Japanese. My latest trip is another matter! In advice there is both practical application and personal practice of that advice! Merry Xmas "Mr. Grinchy"!
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