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Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "10 Most Vicious Acts of Revenge in History" video.
TBH, I'm not sure what would have been kinder, what they got, or being kept in jail, tried and then hung from the neck until dead as was the case with many of them. Some were just sent to prison for the crimes, but there were a lot of mass executions to keep up with the backlog of individuals who were duly convicted of crimes against humanity.
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@DanakarEndeel It probably fell off the back of a truck and the "purchase" price was mostly a bribe to get it. I'm guessing the fact that the other personnel thought it was hilarious or didn't themselves want to go out that allowed it to continue.
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Strictly speaking, the 2nd bomb was probably not necessary and probably wouldn't have happened if not for translation errors. Surrendering as quickly as they did after the second bombing is highly unlikely to happen if they weren't already in the process of trying to surrender. The first one is somewhat debatable, it's kind of hard to really understand the mindset that led to the decision based on what we know about what happened. It's entirely possible that if the bombs hadn't been dropped that we wouldn't have any nukes at all as that was the first that most learned that it was even possible. They might have been able to bury the research and nobody would have it.
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If you read through the Old Testament, it reads a lot like we're all in a relationship with an abusive spouse. Just swap out all the references to God to ones that match the spouse of the appropriate sex.
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@jamesshaffer7005 Probably, but by the same token, at that point, there are basically three options, the other two being an abject coward and the other trying to be as nondescript as possible.
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Yes, and not only did they destroy it, they also salted the ground to try and ensure that they wouldn't be able to grow the crops necessary to rebuild. Given how insanely expensive salt was a the time, that was pretty hardcore.
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Dresden would have been a better choice. The city was of no strategic or military importance, it was more or less a tourist destination that was full to the brim with refugees that were fleeing from the Soviets that were taking their anger out on the civilians as they advanced. The city was firebombed and the initial death toll was on the same basic level as either of the nuclear bombings. (Although if you include death due to cancer, the nuclear bombings are probably significantly bigger as hardly anybody survived the firebombing due to either being incinerated or asphyxiated by the fires)
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That whole thing goes to show that the Israeli government isn't any better than the terrorists that they claim to be offended by. The "terrorists" kill one of theirs, and the Israelis kill 10 that are mostly not involved. It makes it a lot easier for neo-Nazis and the like to spread antisemitism with war crimes going unpunished.
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As I understand it, they were given fair warning to evacuate the city. If you want cruel, the firebombing of Dresden was done without any advance notice and was of no strategic or military importance. It was primarily a tourist town before the war and was housing tons of refugees that were fleeing the advancing Soviet forces.
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#1 should have really been the firebombing of Dresden. It had no military or strategic importance and was just a refuge of the various civilians fleeing from the retribution that the Soviets were enacting on any Germans they encountered on their way to Berlin. Unlike Hiroshima and Nagasaki where there was advance warning that the cities were going to be leveled, the Germans didn't get any such luck and many tens of thousands that were largely noncombatants were murdered. We will never know what the death toll was as most of the bodies were burnt to the point where they couldn't even be identified as being bodies. It's largely a myth that the Japanese didn't know ahead of time, they just thought it would be another large scale bombing raid like had been the case previously, the fact that it was just one plane in each case shouldn't really color people's feelings about the relative brutality.
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@jasonkinzie8835 Yes, and over the decades since many were tried, convicted and executed. There's still a few trials that pop up from time to time, but at this point, they're mostly people of questionable connection in that their presence may or may not have made any meaningful difference in terms of the ability of the camps to function and they themselves aren't even being charged with killing anybody directly.
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@rat3072 Up until recently it was policy that clerical workers and those not directly involved with the operations wouldn't be prosecuted. There have been cases more recently where the rest of them are starting to be prosecuted, but at this point, I'm not even sure what the point really is. They've prosecuted basically everybody that they were able to find who were instrumental in the functioning of the camps. The folks that few folks that remain are mostly indirectly contributed to the operations, not anything that refusing to participate would have had much impact on their ability to exist and function.
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Yep, unless those particular drivers were involved in those incidents, which would make it murder, but at least revenge murder.
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Honestly, it was far more targeted than normal, probably because the intelligence agencies wanted to know with absolute certainty that they got him. Otherwise, they would have dropped a cruise missile on the site and called it good.
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@bonnieparker9584 In civilized parts of the country, it would only be legal if he was actively engaged in that at the moment that he was killed while trying to prevent it. Any other time it's just moderately justified vigilante murder.
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Nothing that Mossad does can be characterized as heroic. They're on the same basic moral playing field as the CIA and Al Qaeda.
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When it comes to more, it depends a bit whether you include the subsequent cancer deaths from the nuclear radiation. But yes, you are correct. Years ago, I lived in one of the Chinese towns that the Japanese had leveled during the war. People there have not forgotten the crimes committed against them by the Imperial Japanese.
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And the detail that frequently gets missed is that the population was warned that the cities were going to be leveled, the fact that nukes were used mostly just affects the numbers that died later on. And in all fairness, there wasn't a lot of information available about what the long term consequences of nuclear fallout would be, although they can't have thought it would be good.
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@munkustrap2 The 2nd one was because we mistranslated the response that the Japanese sent in response to the first bombing.
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@d.h.8202 The Israelis regularly murder innocent civilians on the same basis. The big difference is that Israel is friends with enough powerful nations that we call it defense rather than terrorism or war crimes.
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