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Comments by "Matthew Nirenberg" (@matthewnirenberg) on "Get Two Second Passports for the Price of One" video.
@mutantryeff Sorry but you failed geography - the USA is a union of States who surrendered all of their sovereignty to the US Federal Govt. I.e. they have zero say on visas and citizenship. The EU is a union of Sovereign Nations (i.e. countries) who are each fully in control of their respective countries and thus citizenships. The EU doesn't provide passports to anyone as the EU is not a government. Each country in the EU issues passports to its citizens. The EU's Schengen Zone is the subgroup of countries in the EU who have agreed to free movement and to have one common market (i.e. the Common Market Area) - you pay taxes based on which EU country you live in (even within Schengen). Outside of Schengen there's different rules for living - if someone with an EU passport from Schengen wants to live in a non-Schengen EU country, they have to apply for permission to reside, they can't just register residence like they can within Schengen.
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@RC94332 Doing it via the 1965 treaty is likely the better option as the old Italian Empire is much more favoured in Panama than the USA is, geopolitically speaking. The USA is seen in most of the world as a bully. Getting residency via the treaty using Italian Citizenship by Descent (not by naturalization) will likely give a chance at naturalizing as Panamanian - whilst it would be difficult and involve bureaucracy stuffing you around, its more likely to be possible. Trying to become Panamanian through the FNV is basically impossible as there's always an excuse as to why you can't be naturalized - commonly "not sufficiently integrated", or they just "lose" your paperwork and make you infinitely start again.
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Yes because you're a citizen of Antigua & Barbuda, not St Kitts & Nevis. Basically the 7 full-member countries of the OECS have their own equivalent of the EU Schengen Zone, where they can freely move, work and live between each of their countries. Countries that are Associate Members of the OECS do NOT have such freedom. If you have a passport from Antigua & Barbuda and go to St. Kitts & Nevis, you need to get the OECS entry stamp in your Antigua & Barbuda passport (they might soon start doing this electronically) and you're good to go. If however you were to naturalize as a citizen of St. Kitts & Nevis after 10yrs of living there, then it would become an issue.
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@RC94332 The govt in Panama sure as hell do though. If you re-read my comment (and actually pay attention to what I said) you'd see the part where I talked about becoming Panamanian. No SANE person wastes time on a FNV if they want to live in Panama or naturalize as a Panamanian citizen. Why live somewhere that you have zero rights? Only citizens have rights. To become Panamanian, the treaty route is the only route that's got any chance of being accepted in practice. Plenty of Italians have gone the treaty route and naturalized with far fewer hassles than Americans via the FNV.
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@RC94332 Utter BS. Sure there might be a few edge cases but 99% won't have been naturalized from a FNV. Literally every single channel like Nomad Capitalist, has gone into detail about how the FNV NEVER leads to citizenship in practice. Once again, if you read what I said, I NEVER said it wasn't possible to get naturalized in Panama from a real (i.e. work, investor, govt invited, etc.) visa - only that its 99% impossible to naturalize from a FNV. As OP said they're Italian by descent, I said that the Treaty route was the easiest and fastest with a very high acceptance rate. Your stupid suggestion of just getting a FNV would basically never lead to citizenship. If you think otherwise, try it - you'll find out the hard and expensive way. Once again your lack of education shines brightly as you clearly are incapable of reading what people write and actually comprehending it.
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