Comments by "Posthumanist" (@thornelderfin) on "How a Pro-Russia Party Could Win Slovakia’s Election" video.
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@raze956 "self interest"? So you don't care about children being murdered, women raped and murdered, hundreds of thousands of people dead... you are "Not my problem, I have my own self-interests".
It's people who don't care only their own self-interest or their own ethnicity, race, country... that helped WWII to happen. When Hitler wanted to annex Czechoslovakia in 1938, France and UK threw it to Hitler as a sacrifice - in self-interest of peace. How did that work out for them? Also when France, Belgium, Netherlands and Norway got invaded and UK attacked, USA was milkwarm "Let Europeans fight their own war". How did that work out for them?
Do not ignore your neighbor being slaughtered, it's immoral and it will come for your too. So no, following only self-interest of your country is not morally acceptable, it is abhorent behavior.
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@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana So you belive Russia has a say whether Slovaks can vote in a referendum to join EU and NATO or not. That Russia makes the decision about Slovakia, not people living here, because we are all idiots not able to make our own decisions about our own country. Same for Ukraine - if they want to join EU and NATO, you belive they are not really humans, so they don't have a right to make that decision, Russia has to make it. So by the same logic Slovakia makes the decision about who can and cannot be Russian president. This entire war is only because Slovakia was disrespected by Russians when they elected Vladimir Putin. Russians knew this will anger Slovakia, yet they did it anyway and now will be destroyed. ... See how your logic works, one country making decisions about another country instead of people living there. If Ukrainians want to join EU and NATO Russia has absolutely no say in that, same way if Russia wants to join CSTO or alliance with China, Ukraine has no say in that. Same thing. All humans are equal, so all countries must be equal as well, countries are just people.
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@hefywefy5331 I know you didn't mention Slovakia, but I will comment on it. 20 years ago Hungarian government was pushing the same agenda - that Hungarian native speakers in Slovakia are oppressed (same as Putin last year). When the truth was they were not oppressed at all. They live in the most fertile region of the country, they were not poor by any means, and were treated exactly as everyone else. But Hungarian government had a feeling they want to go back 100 years and rebuild Great Hungary. It just fueled our nationalists in Slovakia and they were getting more and more votes (only and only because of this). Then over the following decade Hungarian native speakers in Slovakia (10% of the population) united into one political party, got consistently 10% in every election and became part of the government, and pushed some small reforms like Hungarian schools and local government using Hungarian as an option and some road signs in Hungarian. All the tensions fell, and since then it is not even talked about anywhere. They were ALWAYS treated the same as everyone else in the country, and now they have special treatment with Hungarian language. They are doing really well financially and are happy where they are. Yet I read from time to time that Hungarians are oppressed here. How? I've been there many times, I've dated there, my extended family (not by blood) is from there, some of my friends are from there (all Hungarian native speakers), none of them ever complained to me, not once. So I am wondering if it's not similar in the other places you have named. How exactly are they oppressed there?
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@matehorvath8296 So you say no political party said they want to abolish any part of the social system (which is true) and also that austerity measures actually mean abolisihing social system (which is just your feeling, there is no evidence of that at all). So if you don't like austerity measures, then what is your solution to the global financial crisis that is increasing in magnitude all over the world (capitalism goes in cycles and it was about time for a fall, like 2008, COVID pandemic also didn't help). What is your solution to lower income into government budget? If not austerity in time of low income, then what? How are we going to get the money? Just borrow more and more money and end up like Greece? Taxing companies even more so they leave Slovakia? I would also love to have my healthcare free, education free and pension (I don't even hope), but something has to be cut somewhere, reasonably. It's a matter of survival of our economy. We also need to increase income into government budget (by attracting more companies, not chasing them away with high taxes). It's not as simple as Fico promising to give unlimited money to everyone. He cannot magically conjure money out of nowhere. He was prime minister for 17 years, so everything you see around yourself is mostly his doing.
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@sunoolee9467 Russia brought us more than 40 years of occupation and destroyed economy (First Czechoslovak Republic was one of the fastest rising and most politically stable countries in the region, if it followed another 50 years Czechoslovakia would be much much better off than after 40+ years of communism and total destruction of economy (and private property, let's not forget) ). In contrast EU membership brought so much prosperity (higher GDP, highet HDI, lower GINI, better standard of living index). I lived through all of that - Russian occupation, the 1990s and then then 20 years of EU, so I can definitely compare. We had nothing in 1980s, now we have so much more (and invaluable freedom). So somehow supporting Russia because some current government is pro-Western is borderline insane. We would be worse off without the EU and much much better off if Russia never existed. (Fico is also pro-Western politician that made Slovakia adopt EUR currency, also voted for weapons for Ukraine when he was prime minister ... but being the complete opportunist he is he turned 180° because he sees voter potential in it, and it worked, it got him 20% of potential votes)
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@emperorofwends8875 You: "I disagree whit the "foreign interference" statement becose my father is one of the most anti-US people I know and even he didnt say the US influenced our election"
-- Well, that depends whether CNN was pushing through Prima something that came from the US government, or whether it was just genuinely stance of Prima as a television (most media have self-imposed bias, which is ok, they are human, but it is not ok when it comes from outside - investors, foreign influence, or when it's deliberately manipulative (I know, this is very difficult to define, it's a thin blurry line). I have no idea what Prima did, so it is difficult for me to comment. However I stand by the principle, I don't want any foreign power to manipulate public opinion in my both home countries of Slovakia and Czech Republic. Currently it is Russia in ridiculous amounts (we have video from our SIS (like Czech BIS) that shows editor in chief of biggest "alternative news" server talking to Russian "diplomat" (some Russian on diplomatic visa that works at Russian embassy), and they are literally talking about him being paid for propaganda, and who else from the politicians can he convert (this is TREASON) and he even got paid for it on the spot. I know it looks like from a bad movie, but it was proven to be real multiple times and police + courts already arrested the guy and deported the Russian diplomat. Russia is really waging a hybrid warfare (of course they are, you would do the same in their position - they invest tiny amount of money and get massive results inside the EU countries, why wouldn't they do it... they did it during cold war era too). Our role is to stop it... at which we failed horribly.
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@joshuacampbell1625 Russia has absolutely nothing to offer to the world, but most people here who support Russia don't do it because they love Russia (they couldn't care less). It's usually people unsuccessful in life, with lots of personal debts (executions/repo) and overall this european social-capitalism doesn't work for them. They need to blame someone for it - so they blame the government, they blame migrants (there are none in Slovakia, they still blame them), they blame gays, they blame Jews, they blame EU, they blame USA, and the system itself. EU and USA represent "the system" in the world today, and life of these people is miserable under this system, so they want to destroy it. Russia is pretending to do just that, so they support Russia. Not because of Russian greatness, but because of absolute hate for the West... because of their miserable personal lives. They would rather see the world burn than to look at the mirror of personal self-reflection.
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@katarinab6728 Vacsinu dospeleho zivota som prezil v roznych krajinach v Afrike, Azii a Europe. Vsade som sa citil ako doma, a nikdy mi nechybala ziadna ina krajina, ani Slovensko. Ludia co ziju cely zivot tu si sami sebe nahovaraju, aki sme vynimocni a uzasni (len aby sa dobre citili sami zo seba) ... ale sme len obycajna krajina, ako vacsina ostatnych normalnych krajin. Nic mi tu nebude chybat, tak ako mi nechyba ziadna ina krajina, vsade bolo dobre. Urcite mi na stare kolena nebude chybat Slovensko, nech skoncim kdekolvek.
A co sa tyka respektovania hlasov ostatnych - my nie sme ti co sa snazili vyvalit branu prezidentskeho palaca (pred rokom), my respektujeme to, ze volby su slobodne a poctive, len sa nam nepaci vysledok, tak odideme prec. To je 100% demokraticke. Ja ti tvoj hlas neberiem.
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@karankapoor2701 Yes I can. Woman is a human being with XX chromosome. Are you satisfied? I am a centrist and I still vote Progressive Slovakia. Because gay and trans people don't live rent-free in my head and I don't fall asleep thinking about them like you. I see much more serious problems with the world like WAR, totalitarian dictatorships (Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Syria), income inequality, technology, climatic changes, financial crisis, and all other ADULT mature problems that cause deaths and suffering int he world. But you go ahead and keep thinking gay and trans people non-stop as the world's biggest problem. So immature.
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@iAdam43 You: "Poland is against immigrants and against "progressive liberal values" "
-- Most countries are against illegal immigrants and for legal immigrants (from everywhere). Poland and Slovakia have none of illegal or legal. It is a very serious problem, but it's not in Slovakia or Poland. Don't allow yourself to be scared to death by something that doesn't even exist here (migrants don't even want to be here, they hate it here, they want to go to Germany, Italy, Farance or Sweden, they don't want to go to Slovakia or Poland).
Regarding "progressive liberal values", that's true. If you are more aligned in your personal values with Polish people than good for you, you will be much happier there.
You: "I already understand Polish most of the time"
-- Interesting. I don't understand them most of the time. They speak so fast, like a machine gun.
You: "Poles are a wonderful people who respect traditions"
-- I hate traditions and constant focus ont he past (I try to focus on the future). But if you like history and traditions, then Poland is definitely better country for you.
You: "All countries should be more like Poland."
-- I wouldn't try to change all other countries. Other people have very different values and priorities than you. It's best if everyone finds a country where they feel the best. Seems like for you it's Poland.
I have lived in many different countries on 3 continents and I have never seen a country that has only positives. So expect there are some negatives to Poland that you don't know about now. But overall, it can still be better and maybe you will be happier over there. I myself am going back to Africa.
Thanks for the explanation, I was curious why Poland. Good luck on your journey!
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@iAdam43 You: "they are not going to be fooled and deceived by the European Union like other Eastern countries"
-- If you hate EU so much, why don't you move out of it completely? (I did it twice, and I don't even hate it ... If I hated it, I would not be able to stay here)
You: "Poland is a highly right-wing and conservative country"
-- What do you mean "right-wing"? Poland has free healthcare (socialist), free education (socialist), strong labor rights, maternity leave, vacation, all socialist and government paid pension system (completely socialist). Poland is centrist, same as most EU countries, if not all. They are just conservative, but not right-wing, there is no right-wing in Europe.
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@iAdam43 You: "Because the wage/price ratio is amazing in Poland"
-- Interesting. I just checked worlddata purchase power index (exactly what you are referring to). Poland is 35th (which is not bad out of 200 countries), Czechia is 34th (purchasing power was great in Prague when I lived there, so I guess it's same in Poland). There are several countries with better ratio of salaries to prices - UK, ES, Korea, Zealand, Italy, Japan, Canada, France, Belgium, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Switzerland, USA, Norway... But yes, of the middle-income countries Poland is not bad. Numbeo ranks it slightly better than Slovakia.
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@Tovalokodonc"The Slavic tribes settled in the territory of present-day Slovakia in the fifth century. Western Slovakia was the centre of Samo's empire in the seventh century. A Slavic state known as the Principality of Nitra arose in the eighth century and its ruler Pribina had the first known Christian church of the territory of present-day Slovakia consecrated by 828. Together with neighbouring Moravia, the principality formed the core of the Great Moravian Empire from 833. The high point of this Slavonic empire came with the arrival of Saints Cyril and Methodius in 863, during the reign of Duke Rastislav, and the territorial expansion under King Svätopluk I."
"In 880, Pope John VIII set up an independent ecclesiastical province in Great Moravia with Archbishop Methodius as its head. He also named the German cleric Wiching the Bishop of Nitra."
"In the meantime, the semi-nomadic Magyar tribes, possibly having suffered defeat from the similarly nomadic Pechenegs, left their territories east of the Carpathian Mountains,[30] invaded the Carpathian Basin and started to occupy the territory gradually around 896. Their armies' advance may have been promoted by continuous wars among the countries of the region whose rulers still hired them occasionally to intervene in their struggles."
"In three battles (4–5 July and 9 August 907) near Bratislava, the Magyars routed Bavarian armies. Some historians put this year as the date of the break-up of the Great Moravian Empire, due to the Hungarian conquest; other historians take the date a little bit earlier (to 902)."
"Following the disintegration of the Great Moravian Empire at the turn of the tenth century, the Hungarians annexed the territory comprising modern Slovakia. After their defeat on the river Lech, the Hungarians abandoned their nomadic ways and settled in the centre of the Carpathian valley, slowly adopting Christianity and began to build a new state—the Hungarian kingdom."
That was the last time Slovakia was free until 1918, more than 1000 years later. This is absolutely fundamental history with endless stream of evidence (including that coming from Hungary itself).
So now you have two choices, either you feel smarter than all the historians in the world, and then better have evidence for your claims. Or you dispute that Slovakia is even a nation (with SLAVIC language, completely different than Hungarian, not even the same category, and Slavic culture). It has been 1000 years of occupation (not saying Hungary was the only one doing this at that time, just stating facts). First world war finally broke the Hungarian empire forever and all the countries under it (with vastly different languages and cultures) were finally free. Now you can either constantly live in the past and dream about your magnificent empire that lasted 1 milennia, stuck mentally in the past. Or you can forget about all of that and build your future as a 21st century modern Hungary. It's your choice.
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@emperorofwends8875 You: "Ukranian propaganda is focused on looking like Ukraine is wining (so that they can get more equpment from NATO)"
-- Well, yes and no. Objectively speaking (means both sides confirmed this) Russia has been just losing territory for 15 months straight - all they conquered in Kyiv region lost, everything in Chernihiv region lost, Sumy region lost, Kharkiv region lost, Kherson region 50% lost, Kherson city lost. Just non-stop losses (confirmed by Russian side, so it's not a speculation) and then Wagner (not even Russian military) conquered Bakhmut, 56. largest city in Ukraine, irrelevant (yeah, then you can ask why did Ukraine defend it so ferociously... because they are stupid, they didn't want political loss and Russians wanted political win, and 20000 Russians died for it minimum (confirmed by Prigozhin) and unknown number of Ukrainians (7000+ minimum). So 15 months only losses of territory and no gains - so you can say Russia is losing, technically it's true. Is Russia going to collapse tomorrow? No. This is a very long war of attrition - industry and economy is going to win this war, not military maneuvers, and it will take years (unless something unexpected like Prigozhin's coup happens, then it may end sooner, but who knows, in Russia anything is possible). Then again Ukrainians are having heavy losses, a lot more than people think. I know it from the two Ukrainian mothers that live here (with 4 kids), I know it from my best friend and from many Ukrainians I know personally. Almost everyone has lost someone from extended family or friends. Also foreign fighters fighting for Ukraine confirm this - heavy losses (don't get me wrong, Russia also has such heavy losses, but Ukraine does too). So I know this is not some glorious easy win for the Ukraine. This is bloody brutal trench war of attrition - just like First World War, but with drones. But one side is defending their homes and their very own families, they are home, the other side is in a foreign country trying to take it (as we've seen by annexing 4 Ukrainian regions 1 year ago - so much for "we don't want Ukrainian land", same lie as "We will not invade Ukraine, it's just western hysteria and CIA psychological operation").
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@emperorofwends8875 You: "Russian propaganda is focused on Russia not looking weak"
-- You mean reports from Russian Ministry of Defense, then yes. But the real Russian propaganda in the West is not about Russia looking good or praising it. The real manipulation is about polarizing westerners about everything (left-right, liberal-conservative, gay, immigrants, racism, everything). They often post on both sides of the argument to start the flame and make people even more radical. Their goal is not to make Russia look good, their goal is to destroy trust in western government, democracy as a system, western media, and trust in each other, create divison. They know they can't make people love Russia, but they can make them question everything and everyone and not trust anything they hear - this creates chaos, division and weakness - that's all they need. ... You might be interested in one presentation from "Yuri Bezmenov" - he is a defector from Russian KGB. He gave an interview about what are the methods of KGB (in 1950s and 1960s), you might like it, it's surprisingly good and clever. You will find it on YouTube, just search for "Yuri Bezmenov", he says similar things in all the videos so just click any one you want.
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