Comments by "buddermonger2000" (@buddermonger2000) on "Hitler's Socialism | Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments" video.

  1.  @3rdblindmouse544  I can understand why you see it that way. For me however I never quite saw it as simply privatizing because even the "privatized" industries had significant government ties and oversight. The most I'll see it is as a merger between capitalism and socialism as it does understand that outside markets exist and engage in trade to an extent and grow its own economy whereas socialism tends to be implemented at the expense of the economy. Fascism likes the ideas and ideals of socialism, but attempts to work it into the contemporary capitalist world economy.
    2
  2.  @3rdblindmouse544  I like this take very much. Seems the most honest one. However from what I understand of these ideologies, Fascism seems just as rooted in Marxism as socialism. I take this from its origin, its inventor, and how its implementation has ended up together. First off the fascists are an offshoot of the socialists which makes them linked far more than they are to capitalists (as Marxism is very much a reaction to capitalism more than it is any offshoot) and was created by Benito Mussolini in an attempt to refine socialism. He did intend for it to be a new system but it has the socialist principles within it inherently as he still did believe it in. The refining comes from where the power should be and how the people should be united on this front. The essence of fascism comes from keeping socialism within state borders and an allegiance of the people to the state united. The means of production are controlled by the state and in nazi Germany The government really did have a lot of control over all of these companies. Now socialism is very much implemented similarly but with the one caveat of not trying to be limited by its country. It's supposed to unite the workers together to control the means of production and participate in a more "fair" economy and trade. The only issue is that in practice this always manifests as state control is many of these outlets as in order to keep the companies in line the government ends up having to step in. The people end up often being loyal to the party and the party ends up in control of the government. Now... I will say that this is mostly how "communism" has been implemented rather than socialism. The only modern country that has professed socialism rather than communism in wide knowledge is Venezuela in which it did nationalize much of the economy but without the loyalty to the party and instead loyalty to Hugo Chavez. These ideologies are not inherently totalitarian, however unless there is unanimous agreement among the people and companies involved, the only way to implement any of this is through authoritarian rule and forcing it on the people. I would also like to have people not confuse how government policy and intervention that people refer to as "socialist" isn't very socialist as simply having government run programs are not socialist. It's when the government controls not just the economy but the companies involved permanently that it becomes fascism and or socialism. Also there's something to be said for not calling racists fascists. Fascism is a socio-economic ideology based on the people's interaction with the government and economy and not on race.
    1
  3.  @ReckerFidelWOLF  I thank you for being an honest commie.
    1
  4.  @3rdblindmouse544  I honestly have forgotten what that is so I had to look it up. I feel like the fascists probably subscribed to the Keynesian school from what I could gather. FDR certainly subscribed to the idea or at least used what the theory would support in his policies.
    1
  5.  @3rdblindmouse544  Please don't remind me of the worst president of the United States. You actually cannot do worse than he did in current year short of undoing civil rights law and then putting the KKK in power on the Supreme Court and all levels of executive office.
    1