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Comments by "Bk Jeong" (@bkjeong4302) on "The Drydock - Episode 066" video.
This so much.
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He wouldn't have, because logistics dictated that he couldn't.
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Re: Halsey, do note that with the timetable of the invasion the Japanese couldn't have attacked the transports anyways.
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Nowadays he is seen as one of the best admirals of all time (and deservedly so). To be fair he had the advantage in that his enemies had very little naval artillery, but given that he had to deal with shitty logistics, political intrigue and demoralized/undisciplined/poorly trained subordinates, he still deserves quite a lot of praise.
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@johnshepherd8687 no Avenger torpedo bomber?
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One of the capital ships IMO.
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WHY?
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This. Seriously that list is half big-gun capital ships, three of which shouldn't even have existed in the first place (and one of those three being a questionable design).
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If you actually study the Decisive Battle doctrine you will find that the Japanese intended to use their carriers to sink enemy carriers rather than as bait; the problem the Japanese had was not that they failed to realize their battleships were vulnerable to aircraft, but that they failed to realize that their own carriers also also posed also posed a serious threat to the enemy battleline. And by the time of the Marianas Turkey Shoot there really was no expectation of a capital ship surface engagement in the IJN. And given that literally everyone built and tried tried to use pointless battleships in WWII (in some cases even after Japan gave up on that idea post-Midway), I have to argue that nobody really understood what naval airpower meant in WWII until after they wasted vast amounts of resources. As for Spruance, his actions during Operation Hailstone makes me question if he actually recognized carriers as being superior to battleships. I mean, calling off the carrier attacks just when they are about to sink everything simply so the Iowas could say they fired at two destroyers and a damaged training vessel? And having one of the destroyers escape as a result of that?
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They were heavily used, but did they really justify all the expense spent on them? I doubt it.
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@simonwaldock9689 Even then I doubt people would care if he executed much of the crew of the Kamchatka.
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@stanleyrogouski The Japanese concern was with air attacks in the morning. Hence they wanted ships fast enough to get out of flying distance of Henderson Field before daybreak.
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Erik Heath the air attacks from Taffy 1 and 2 played a bigger role than the destroyers.
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@DoddyIshamel They had the best armour in terms of steel quality. ...which isn't the most important characteristic of batrleship armour. In WWII the Germans definitely were a lot more poorly armoured than contemporary American or even Japanese vessels despite better steel quality. The British, on the other hand, did genuinely have great battleship armour, the best of the war in fact.
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@Shaun_Jones Then the British have a harder time since Yamato doesn't have nearly as many design issues as Bismarck, but they could still win if they play things right.
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@scottygdaman Because it wouldn't have worked. Simple.
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Some of these ships aren't really noteworthy....
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@stanleyrogouski You're forgetting about planes from Henderson Field..... Given what happened to SoDak at Guadalcanal, the Americans may actually lose one (maybe two) capital ship in that scenario but it's not going to be an easy match.
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@johnshepherd8687 true.
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@paulbrune1346 all three; the ship was lucky, and she has diagonal supporting girders (one of the first wooden ships with this feature) that were made out of live oak (a very durable and rot - resistant wood)
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@deidryt9944 during the day the Fleet Air Arm would get slaughtered by the Kido Butai or by pre-war American carriers, but at night things change, because at that time the British were the only ones doing night ops off carriers.
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@deidryt9944 They did operate in poor visibility even against moving targets. The strike that doomed Bismarck for one.
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@stanleyrogouski One of those two ships is less capable than the Washington (guess which one) and the Japanese weren't going to bring in their non-30kt ships unless necessary due to risk of air attack as they pulled back at dawn. Add fuel concerns, and it's understandable why the IJN didn't want to risk too many capital ships, let alone their most famous battleship (at the time) and their most capable battleship. Not to mention that the USN was never really going to lose at Guadalcanal for logistical reasons. Basically it was "save them for later and get them sunk later, or use them now and get them sunk sooner while also wasting fuel".
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That thing was ridiculous.
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Too terrible to be worth bringing back.
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Erik Heath not just that, but some of these air attacks (especially the later ones) posed a genuine threat to the cruisers and battleships.
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On that round table, Yi and Rozhestvensky should commiserate over being screwed over by their respective governments and having to deal with poorly trained, undisciplined sailors, though Yi did manage to get his men in control and win all his naval engagements. Maybe it was due to the fact that Yi wasn't shy about harshly enforcing discipline and sanity (up to and including executions) while Rozhestvensky restricted himself to screaming insults with a megaphone.
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Kim Lee Christensen Except that one (Mikasa) still exists as a museum ship so isn’t part of the list.
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@stanleyrogouski Actually most Japanese pilot losses took place in the Solomons. Midway was surprisingly light on pilot losses.
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Stanley Rogouski But that was the only Japanese carrier at Midway to suffer pilot losses greater than 50%: the three that were lost earlier in the battle had most of their pilots saved by other Japanese warships.
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Maybe the Honda Point destroyers?
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Feldmarschall Admiral Ushakov probably.
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