Comments by "Life\x27s Adventures" (@bigphillyed) on "Hong Kong Police Clash With Protesters in Mongkok" video.

Fuck Hong Kong! They are no more then common street criminals. Time for a Chinese prison.
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@normantang171 Norman Tang first if all, being white or brown has nothing to do with what is going on in Hong Kong, but now that we know your a racist piece of shit. As far as the 5 demands: 1. Withdrawl if extradition bill, done and withdrawn. 2. Police brutality, is a mute topic as protestors violence far exceeds the treats to an officers safety. In america if you threaten to harm an police officer they can use deadly force to protect themselves. I have to be honest, I think the police have been very timid in dealing with protestors. Just as there are isolated very violent protestors there is also isolated incidents of police using excessive force. There is not one substantial case of rape or dead bodies in the sea that are directly related to Hong Kong over mental or police, not one. Everything coming from the violent protestors is all accusations and not one ounce of evidence or guilt has been found. 3, retraction of the term Rioter to protestor. The protestors have committed the act of rioting by the definition. No one can break the law, attack police, destroy public and private property and attack citizens and not be labeled a rioter. In fact these violent protestors are nothing more then common street criminals and should be seen as such. The second these protestors began to use violence they lose any possible title of who they are. 4. Amnesty for laws broken while protesting. Really? You do not get to break the law, destroy property, attack police, attack other citizens and then get amnesty simply because you protested for it. I believe over 2,500 people have been arrested and the demand for amnesty is for 750 of them. That is ridiculous, that is not they way life works. Thus just shows the immature and childish thought process of these teenagers protesting. In fact there is zero, organization or structure to these violent protests. Not one person has stood up to take a leadership role to demand any particular list. You do not get to break the law, throw a temper tantrum and then demand amnesty for their crimes. So far all these demands have been childish, immature and down right full of shit. The final demand is universal suffrage, let's be honest here, never has Hong Kong been a true democracy. Even under british rule, thengivernornwas never elected by the people, thenbritish government assigned governor position as they saw fit. Now, Hong Kong citizens get to vote for 50% of the seats, which is basically been the same since 1997 and not much different then the british system in the past. Let's be honest here, Honk Kong is sovereign PRC land and people and they should have some level of governance over their land and people. I think a communist socialist chinrse society giving HK citizens 50% voting power over the council is pretty fair, considering it is China. The alternative would be a completely assigned government as what the british provided. Economically speaking Hong Kong depends more on china then china depends on Hong Kong. So it only seems fair for the PRC to have some say on what politicians represent Hong Kong. Universal suffrage was never even written into then Sino-British declaration, so why would it change now? The bottom line China has and should have a say in who governors their sovereign territory. The idea a capitalist society must be a free society is childish and immature thought process. No where in any declaration does it state that Hong Kong must be a free and democratic state, nor should it be. China has retained control of HK for 200 years, sorry but that is the fact. So HK protestors again are protesting a demand that they have no entitlements to demand. Never has HK been a full democracy, not once in history even during british control. Demanding universal suffrage is an attempt at making Hong Kong a full democracy, which is not what the Sino-British agreement was about. In the end a bunch of pissed off teenagers are simply using violence against Hong Kong and it's people for the sake of democracy they never had before. Just call it what it is, a demand for independence from China. The entire world knows that will never happen, nor should it happen. Hong Kong has no possible way of ever declaring independence nor could they even attempt it. Hong Kong's economy, lack of resources, lack of defense, and lack of international support could never support independence from China. China has a valid sovereign claim to Hong Kong. None of this matters as in 2047 the PRC gets full control of Hong Kong no matter what the citizens want and demand. All these violent protests are doing is providing a clear and present threat to the national security of China and will eventually force the PRC to send in the PLA to gain control and restore law and order. These protestors have no reason to be protesting nor using violence and the world sees that.
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@moneyearningsph7435 no HK should not be democratic, they are sovereign soil to the People Republic of China. End of story! This is not an issue of independence, this is an issue of children refusing the rule of China. Using violence, attacking innocent citizens and attacking police officers with bricks is not how things are done. These protestors do not even have a reason to be protesting anymore. The PLA needs to step into HK take control and put these protestors down. Enough is enough.
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@moneyearningsph7435 the police are violent because they are attacked on a daily basis by children throwing the equivalent of a temper tantrum. If you throw a rock at me, I will shoot you. These protestors need to learn how to stop using violence. The worst part is they all condone the use of violence. HK will not gain independance or any type of separation from China, so why bother hurting all these people and destroying property.
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@normantang171 I dont give a shit what's happening in China. Why? Because I do not live there and they are a civilized society based on law and order. What does any of that have to do with children using violence in Hong Kong.
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@normantang171 it doesnt matter who started what, when and why. These protests are violent, period. The protests are asking for demands they never had before, nor should they have. The people of Hong Kong have great lives compared to the rest of the world, yet that is not enough. Let's be honest here, the violent protests were nothing more then a children's way of trying to gain international support towards independence. The entire world knows that will never happen. Nor should it happen. Again these are no more then common millenial street criminals. And that is the way the government should see it and address is.
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@normantang171 who ever said life is fair? Never in Hong Kong history did the people elect a governor or a chief executive. Never. So why would you expect to now? Under the Sino-British agreement, there was never an agreement for universal suffrage. So the people of Hong Kong get to elect 50% of their government, considering that is 50% more then the rest of China, I think that is more then fair. No where in Hong Kong's agreement or history is there any resort to democracy or a free society. Hong Kong is the 9th best city in the world for citizens, and yet here these children are demanding even more. They are better off then 95% of the rest of the world and that isn't enough. Immature millennials will destroy this world.
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Look the kids are using bricks, and then they wanna know why the police are brutal. PLA time to move in, is now, crush these kids and send them to prison where they belong.
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@normantang171 protestors shouldn't use anything, why do they need violence? Ask yourself this, why are these children protesting? What is their end goal? My opinion, these kids will not stop, they only see independence from China as the only answer. The whole world knows that will not happen, nothing has changed in over a year of protesting, now these kids have taken the violence to new extremes. You do not protest Chinas control by using violence. The HK protestors have lost all international support since the adoption of these violent ways. The police should be shooting more of them.
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@moneyearningsph7435 what do you expect the government to do when faced with lawless ess, riots and violent protesting? Tear gas is not excessive force. It is a non lethal form of crowd control, and should be used to put down any potential threat to the government, its employees or the public. Stop trying to justify violent behavior for demands that HK'ers are not entitled to.
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@ginkgothestink-o6949 being the truth makes me a barbarian? Hong Kong has never offered its citizens universal suffrage. Not once in Hong Kong's history has the citizens had control or democracy in regards to the Cheif Executive / Governors or the council. Now all of a sudden it's an issue? This is simply an unorganized attempt at gaining international support towards Hong Kong independence from China. We all know that would and will never happen. The PRC get total control in 2047, they can afford to wait. Everyday these protestors get more violent and more violent for wasteful demands and the international community sees that, and the protestors are losing support for their cause. I speak the truth and I am the barbarian. I think this is just a sign that these childish and immature ways of millennials demanding irrelevant things from government is all part of the dangerous trends of this disrespectful new generation.
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@moneyearningsph7435 Technjx Official and you will have another Tiananmen Square if the violent protestors keep escalating these violent protests. They demands of these children are ridiculous, they are demanding things they never had before, so why should reality change now? The bottom line is Hong Kong is China and they must accept that, and accept the fact they can never change that. Independence is not an option for Hong Kong. Stop waisting time and people's safety to change something that will never be changed.
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@moneyearningsph7435 being a capitalist economy does not mean a free society. Being liberal is not even a thing in Asian culture, you need to stop watching american news media. Hong Kong has never been a democracy, even under british rule Hong Kong never had voting decisions for the governor/chief executive. That means HK was never a democracy and never will be a democracy. They are a capitalist economy under communist rule, that us the fact.
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@moneyearningsph7435 you can prefer Hong Kong to be independent all you want, the reality is, it isn't and never will be. Hong Kong will remain capitalist until 2047 and then will be completely under communist China rule. Deal with it.
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@moneyearningsph7435 Chile and Lebanon are democratic learn your shit before calling anyone out on it. Just because democracy is the dominant government model throughout the world. Doesn't mean that China must give HK independence or give them complete democracy. The Sino-British agreement never gave Hong Kong complete democracy.
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@William Singht you are a moron.
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@ginkgothestink-o6949 you can have an opinion that all humans should have the inherit right to vote for their government. But that is not the way the world works. In fact look at all the newly democratic nations in the middle east. They are all failing, why? Because the societies cannot behave under a free democracy. Corruption and voters second guessing their decisions are destroying those countries. Certain social norms do not make democracy the answer to every nation's political and economic system. These children, millennials use violence to attempt to make change where they know it won't happen. Violence is never right, especially when the minority of the Hong Kong society is the only ones protesting and demanding universal suffrage. The majority of Hong Kong citizens are content with their society and government. So, that being said, these violent protestors are wrong, period. Civil society shall not cater to the minority. If 60% of the country were protesting for independence send democracy then maybe I could agree with that, but that isn't the case. China had sovereign control of Hong Kong, nothing will change that. China is a socialist / communist society and that isn't going to change anytime soon. They are all facts and nothing will change that. By the easy, free speech only exists in America, no where else.
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