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Comments by "Meowmeow" (@mouwersor) on "Collectivism and Individualism" video.
But collectivism is shit.. How can you even defend the idea that society should be more important than the individual. Society as a whole does not think or feel and individuals do.
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Republicans are collectivist in their religious thinking
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@Meta-trope Well apparently they prefer it over the natural state. Nothing is stopping them from going full-amish and abandoning modern society.
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@thomasmuntzerreal Wym "progress is collective". Define progress here. And why does every individual need to be satisfied? What weird moral assumptions lie behind that claim? And what does 'collective happiness' even mean? Is this some wack utilitarian idea? WHAT ARE YOUR MORAL FRAMEWORKS HERE
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@thomasmuntzerreal " Progress is made by and for collective of peoples" Again, define what progress even is and why it would be homogenous. " Because everyone has the right to be happy, and the role of the state is to grant happiness to its citizens, to all its citizens." These are baseless assumptions which I obviously disagree with. Why are you even looking at this as if there are objective moral rules we have to commit to. If collectivism leads to a less desirable life for me then I don't support collectivism, and it's up to you to prove I Ought to do otherwise.
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@thomasmuntzerreal Again, why do you think that is homogenous? One person's access to technology or knowledge or prosperity does not mean someone else also has access to it. I would like for you to answer the more important question though. Why would I also assume your moral ideas if those moral ideas are not in my best interest?
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How is that in contradiction with 'pure individualism'? My quality of life with the specialization and advanced technologies that entails is a result of individuals fulfilling their own desires
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Why? Define immoral. I'm willing to bet your morality is just filthy slave-morality
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@thomasmuntzerreal Why
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@shermanfirefly5410 If the sort of individualism you're speaking of is not in the best self-interest of the individual then it is not exactly individualism, is it...
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