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Comments by "Tiago" (@lapun47) on "Jordan Peterson: 'Moral posturing over climate change will end in apocalypse' | SpectatorTV" video.
The mistake that most who are allergic to religion and god make is taking these notions as based on historical fact rather than interpreting them as powerful myths that offer guidance for walking through life's challenges.
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Perhaps if you would take the time to watch the video before commenting on the speaker you would find out.
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Peterson reads the biblical stories as myth not as a history book. That is why he can take them as a moral guide and those who do not understand the purpose of myth cannot.
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@GuessWhoAsks Since you ask, I consider the bible, tke koran and the Buddhist canonical works I've read to be partly a collection of historical accounts and partly a collection of myths. Peterson clearly focuses on the biblical myths as anyone who has followed his work knows. Literal readers, particularly Christian fundamentalists and athiests anxious to debunk religion and god, like to ignore the mythical quality of many of the texts taking them as historical accounts and to focus on a very selected range of historical texts taking them out of their context. But I think it's slavery in the bible that bothers you as you mention it in your original post and as we all know has been used to support the practice in the past though is not used for that today (although the enslavement of Yazidis under the recent 'Islamic Calephate' in Syria and Iraq suggests that the koran still is used to justify slavery). People often like to forget that in Ancient Isreal one entered slavery voluntarily as an alternative to starving to death because unable to support oneself and one's family. It is also commonly forgotten that during a Jubilee year, that is every 50 years, all debts were forgiven and all slaves freed. That comes from the historical part of the bible. But as the ancient Israeli people were themselves slaves in Egypt and Babylon it can and should be read against the biblical myth that addresses the question "Who is my neighbour? (the story often called 'The Good Samaritan') since the bible also teaches that one should love one's neighbour as one loves oneself. Now that I have answered your question at some length, perhaps you can tell me what touchstone you youreslf use to judge your own and others' morality.
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@GuessWhoAsks No book is a perfect blueprint for behaviour. All documents have to be interpreted. The interpetation of religious and political texts gives rise to ideologies. No ideology is perfect. That is why some followers of the bible, some followers of the communist manifesto, some followers of Mein Kampf, some followers of the US constitution have been able to commit acts which I find immoral. Now I'm once again going to ask what your moral touchstone is as you avoided this question when I posed it earlier. And I'm also going to ask why it is so important for you to know how I view the bible.
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@GuessWhoAsks Why do you insist on a 'yes or no' answer to the question 'Do you consider the bible to be a good example of morality?' My answer is 'yes AND no'.
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@GuessWhoAsks You got the answer you were looking for. Now let the matter rest.
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@GuessWhoAsks 'Now let the matter rest' means exactly that. You'll have to find someone else to grind your axe with.
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Why do people who want to reduce the world's population always feel entitled to live themselves and expect others to give up life?
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