Comments by "Богдан Беркут" (@user-wm5rt9pw5l) on "Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis u0026 War | Lex Fridman Podcast #415" video.

  1. And a UFO port for the occupation fleet from Alpha Centauri.
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  2. And the downsides?
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  3. And India was once called British Raj, so what? The Polish-Lithuanian crown runs over the lands of Ukraine twice as long than Moscow. Perhaps at least this information generates some questions in your brain with a cave worldview from the 17th century.
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  4. They shoved a simple fact in your face: in Ukrainian politics, nationalists (not Nazis, not fascists, not white supremacists, but nationalists of all kinds) do not have any electoral support and, accordingly, influence. You have experienced cognitive dissonance and are trying to counter it with this nonsense.
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  5. The goal of German historians under Katerina was to justify the origin of the Russian state from Rus' and not inventing Rus'. The phenoma of Rus' is quite historical and I do not understand your hostility to this historian.
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  6. "profound East-West divide" - which was not visible on electoral maps until 2004 and has not been visible since 2019. "Western Ukrainian nationalists" - who are not even able to get into parliament but are somehow capable of conducting "ethnic propaganda". It is also not clear against whom the “ethnic propaganda” was carried out, given that in both eastern and western Ukraine the absolute majority are Ukrainians. "country's descent into civil war" - the same "civil war" that occurred only in those places and when the Russians appeared with weapons.
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  7. You don't have the arguments and intelligence to form at least one
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  8. "Look how much money had Akhmetov" - Among the residents of the West Jordan region under the Palestinian Authority government live several billionaires (yes, billionaires like Munib al-Masri). What does this say about the standard of living of ordinary Palestinians? Nothing. "What rust belt is he talking about?" - Donbass is a heavily industrialized region with cities built around factories and mines. If these businesses have problems, the entire population has problems. In particular, the fall in coal prices led to a situation where the entire industry lived on government subsidies. And if I understood correctly, Plokhy spoke about this in the context that the collapse of the Soviet Union greatly damaged these regions due to the severance of economic ties. “Russians were the majority” - no, never and nowhere except Crimea in any region of Ukraine have Russians ever been a majority. This can be easily seen in Soviet, Imperial and Ukrainian censuses. Moreover, before the Stalinist deportations in a significant part of the Donbass, the most numerous ethnic group after the Ukrainians were... the Greeks.
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  9. Who should Ukrainian nationalists collaborate with in the interwar period in an attempt to gain a truly independent Ukraine? Bandera was arrested by the Germans in the second week of the invasion of the Soviet Union and there was no further cooperation.
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  10. You're just lying or incredibly ignorant. In the second week of the invasion of the Soviet Union, Bandera was arrested by the Germans, from that moment his organization turned into an underground organization hostile to the Germans. How exactly did they take part in the genocide carried out by the Germans? It was not Bandera’s followers who entered Lvov, but the German army and German Einsatzgruppen. There is no evidence of the organization or participation of OUN members in the pogrom.
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  11. Bandera was not a political philosopher and did not create any ideologies. Both at the time of the Polish-Ukrainian underground war and at the time of the Holocaust, Bandera was in a concentration camp.
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  12. What's your counterargument?
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  13. You have no arguments. The Russian version of history is an imperial construct to justify conquest.
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  14. During the 2001 census, 29% of Ukrainians indicated Russian as their native language. Not half and not more than half.
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  15. You're lying. Monuments to Bandera exist only and only in western Ukraine. This is easy to check from the list of statues on Wikipedia. Comparing Bandera with Hitler or Mussolini is stupid. Bandera spent most of the war in a German concentration camp.
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  16. Good luck finding this document with that title and with the authorship of Bandera
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  17. Of all the general secretaries, only Khrushchev was an ethnic Ukrainian. The ethnicity of others does not matter. Both Brezhnev and Stalin relied on the “leading role of the Russian people” and both carried out an aggressive Russification of the union. "The Maidan Junta" - an alternative reality created in your head by Russian propaganda. Since 2014, Ukraine has had three different governments.
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  18. Learn to distinguish between the Soviet Union and Russia. These are different phenomena.
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  19. Ukrainian SS units spent most of their existence outside Ukrainian territory.
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  20. The ideology of the OUN is revolutionary ethnic nationalism, very similar to Italian fascism, although not related to it. Among the ideologists of the OUN there were people with very pronounced anti-Semitism who in their works called for the ethnic purity of the Ukrainian nation. Others showed no such tendencies or even entered into disputes with anti-Semites. It is not known for certain which of them Bandera was ideologically close to. If by “Bandera was successful” we mean the emergence of the Ukrainian state in the first weeks of the invasion of the Soviet Union, then it is either an ally or a puppet of Germany with all the subsequent consequences for the Jewish population of Ukraine. Although I must note that the Germans preferred to carry out the Holocaust with German hands. If we are talking about an absolutely wild alternative history with the Ukrainian state at the end of the Second World War... The OUN ideology strongly drifted towards the center during the war for many reasons, including due to the defeat of the Ukrainian nationalist underground, and in this scenario it should have won , it’s difficult to say how and what would come of it.
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