Comments by "Vary Olla" (@varyolla435) on "Ebola: The Disease of Nightmares" video.

  1. If this is an example of your logic on display = I hope you do not operate heavy machinery....... 🤦
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  2. So much hate - so much ignorance. Sad - but not unexpected. Simple things for simple minds after all. 🥱
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  3. Covid is primarily spread via airborne inhalation. Ebola can only be spread via contact with infected fluids when the person is actively ill. So while Ebola is far more deadly to man = it is far less infectious than other diseases. The "net impact" of Covid or Influenza is vastly greater than other more "dangerous" infectious diseases given the ease by which they spread. A million cases of Measles - even if "only" 5K end up dying = is still a million cases. That million cases causes considerable disruption to society as well as an enormous economic burden.
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  4. Except in this case we are speaking about zoonotic organisms. So Ebola does not "just happen". It is a result of consumption of poorly prepared wild animals/interaction with the same. So things like deforestation of previously wild areas + interaction with and consumption of wild animals under poor conditions + wet markets which put multiple species in close proximity to each other + and finally cultural practices of tribes in Africa = which sets the stage for viruses like Ebola to "jump" into human populations and spread from there. It is entirely preventable. 🤔
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  5. Ebola = is contact spread.......... Unless you have evidence to the contrary it appears you wasted your time working at your laboratory as clearly the academics here failed you...... 🤨 p.s. - Ebola is only infectious when you are actively symptomatic. By then however you are usually incapacitated making spread difficult as the infected lack the capacity to move about with ease. That is why it requires people to be in contact with infected fluids when the person is actively sick.
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  6. Ebola does not make the person infectious until = they are actively symptomatic - and which point they quickly become incapacitated. So no - Ebola is not easily spread like airborne viral pathogens like Covid which makes you infectious before you have any symptoms so as to know you were infected. Ebola requires physical contact with infected fluids. As such a person can avoid infection simply by not handling sick people or things they have been in contact with.
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  7. Considering vitamins will do absolutely nothing for you vis a vis a defense against Ebola = what matter....... Take a whole bottle of whatever floats your boat - it won't matter. 🤨
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  8. Pity then you failed to elucidate any evidence to support what you claimed.......... So once again a anti-vaccine troll had an opportunity to "strut their stuff" and show others their knowledge of the science here = and they flubbed it......... 🥱
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  9. The usual place = the environment.......
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  10. It is not our immune systems which save us as to be a "pathogen" already means the organism is able to bypass our natural defenses to cause us illness. It is the nature of the pathogen itself which usually limits it. An organism with a "100% mortality" rate would in all likelihood kill off its victims before it could continue its chain of infection. If you look at the various organisms you will see whereby the ones which are the deadliest - such as hemorrhagic fevers like Ebola = are not terribly infectious. To catch Ebola you must come into contact with infected fluids from a person who is actively ill - at which point they are quickly incapacitated limiting their ability to infect others. Other infectious diseases like say the Flu while having lower mortality rates = are highly infectious making the person infectious to others before they even know they are sick. So while less people might die from the Flu far more become ill so that its "net impact" is a greater burden to society. A million cases of Measles - even if "only" say 5K end up dying = is still a million cases.
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  11. Bushmeat is only part of the problem. As an aside. People around the world eat = whatever meat is available to them. So one sometimes sees infectious "spillover events" in commercial meat processing as one does in "bushmeat" as the problem is not the consumption of meat = but its preparation. Handling meat/animals under unsanitary conditions is asking for trouble. Anyways the other half of the problem is of course = encroachment into formerly wild areas. So growing populations needing a place to live + additional land for agriculture results in "wild" areas becoming exposed which helps trigger that "zoonotic spillover event" leading to outbreaks like this.
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  12. You want an example of conspiracy theories = read your own comment..........
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  13. While socioeconomic variables such as poverty etc. do play a role in infectious disease epidemiology. In the matter of Ebola it is cultural more than economic. The consumption of often poorly prepared bushmeat + widespread utilization of wet markets + encroachment into previously wild areas to foster zoonotic transmission + a finally cultural practices vis a vis handling of infected are what drive subsequent outbreaks. Ebola is only infectious when the person is symptomatic and by that time they are usually rapidly incapacitated and must be cared for by others - often family. Further others must come into contact with infected body fluids. So it is cultural practices of caring for infected at home rather than in hospitals + handling of infected dead rather than turning them over to public health systems = which facilitates much of the subsequent spread when outbreaks occur. People must change the way they have always dealt with ill people. 🤔
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  14. If you had Ebola = you would not be here online........... Also the only way to catch it is to have direct fluidic contact with an infected person = who is symptomatic. People are not infectious with Ebola until they are actively ill with it - and which point they are quickly incapacitated. So the reason Ebola spreads in Africa is because of cultural practices whereby family members handle the bodies of the dead - which are extremely infectious.
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  15. There aren't many Costco's in Africa to get some groceries you know. People have to eat and consuming local wildlife has sustained them for generations.
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  16. Hemorrhagic fever diseases are nothing to quibble about. They are exceedingly lethal. Fortunately they are contact spread rather than airborne which makes them easier to stop. The problem in Africa is a cultural issue. People there for generations have handled the bodies of sick/dead family members. It is was their practice of caring for the sick and handling the dead which allows Ebola outbreaks to spread beyond their immediate area of outbreak. Fortunately the people are finally catching on to stop doing these cultural practices when Ebola turns up to instead let health authorities deal with these people. 🤨
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  17. "If it bleeds = it leads" - modus operandi of US news media in general. Meanwhile some media venues in the US - so-called "conservative news" (an oxymoron by the way) - are especially hyperbolic in their reporting. Thus it is one thing to report the news and to address what are legitimate concerns. Some however fall into the arena of = "tabloid reporting" - and must be taken as such. 🤨
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  18. Naturally you failed to provide a shred of evidence to support your obviously imbecilic claim here.......... Let me guess = one of your "friends" on Fakebook etc. told you this. 🤦
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  19. "Zoonotic" pathogens by definition exist in more than one species. So no - Ebola can not be eradicated as it "jumped" into man from other species and likely will do so again at some point. About 75% of viral pathogens which afflict mankind are of zoonotic origin. We can not eradicate them completely. All we can do is to mitigate their presence and impact.
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  20. Amazing in that one sees multiple posters all chirping = but absolutely nothing to indicate any understanding here. How sad - if not unexpected. Conspiracy theory as always is the swansong of the failed intellect. As a consolation prize. Hospitals must justify billing to the insurance company. Ergo if there is no documentation to support a diagnosis of Covid - or anything else for that matter = to attempt to bill it would constitute fraud making the hospital subject to legal penalties. Ergo one does not simply say something is Covid related = one must prove it via documentation and diagnostic testing etc.. This is but one small example of what you lemmings do not understand. Continue with your parroting of talking points....... 🦜🦜🦜
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  21. You are not infectious with Ebola until you are symptomatic. Thus healthcare workers being alert for any signs would be able to respond at the first sign of trouble such as developing a fever after having worked around people infected with Ebola. It requires physical contact with infected fluids of someone actively ill with Ebola to catch it. By that time they are usually already incapacitated. You can not catch Ebola sitting next to someone on a bus or via airborne exposure. 🤔
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  22. Actually both infectious diseases have a similar incubation period which varies from individual to individual. A person could show active symptoms within a few days - or a few weeks. As an aside. While our ability to treat viral infections has improved over the past 40 years viruses are still difficult to overcome given the nature of how they replicate in the body. Thus antiviral therapies remain limited.
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  23. Except that = it was a media scarefest - especially in the mythical world of "conservative media" which routinely hypes nonsense for profit........ Moral: Ebola is deadly - absolutely. Yet it also is not = very infectious......... To catch Ebola you must come into physical contact with an infected person's bodily fluids = when they are actively ill - except by then they are also usually quickly incapacitated which limits spread. So the problem with the Ebola epidemic some years ago was not Ebola per se = but cultural beliefs in Africa. People there handle the bodies of the sick and dead per their customs which meant it spread out of control. In western nations someone who becomes sick typically goes to a doctor/hospital such that an infectious disease spread via contact can quickly be contained in most cases. We do not handle the dead at home as in Africa = we have professionals come in for that.
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  24. Born stooopid - or dropped on your head as a baby....
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  25. No - it makes perfect sense if you understand the process. People infected with Ebola are not actively infectious until = they are symptomatic. At that point however they are already sick such that they can not move around much - if at all being largely incapacitated. So with "hemorrhagic diseases" people will be "dripping fluids" from body orifices = vomiting/diarrhea/bleeding/serous exudate from their pores akin to oozing blisters from pockets of edema which form from burst blood vessels and so forth. Thus the risk of spread comes from physical contact from these fluids as a result of handling the infected - alive or dead. They will not be walking about sweating and sneezing at that point. 🤔
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  26. Ah...... no.
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  27. People are often afraid of things they are actually ignorant about. It is simply human nature. So despite the deadly nature of Ebola = it is not terribly infectious. If you avoid being exposed to bodily fluids from someone infected with it - who must also be actively ill - you will not catch it. Of course by the time they become symptomatic so as to also become infectious = they quickly thereafter become incapacitated. So it spread through Africa because of cultural mores which led people to handling the sick/dead instead of letting medical authorities deal with them. Rather than letting people be cared for at hospitals and not handling infected bodies families would do it themselves = and thereby become infected as well.
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  28. Lay off the Tranq as it clearly is having an adverse impact on you...... - trust me. 🤦
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  29. Reston Virus = does not cause infections in humans - only primates. As such it will not spread as a virus to spread must be able to infecting/replicating itself in a host. You are exposed all the time to microorganisms from your environment which do not make you sick and which you do not spread further. Any virus which accesses your body can upon being encountered by your immune cells trigger antibody formation against it - "seroconversion." Unless however the virus is capable of infecting cells to reproduce itself - so that you then "shed" additional viruses into your environment to keep the chain of infection going = what viruses are inside of you will simply be eliminated by immune cells and/or die off. Moral: ingesting/inhaling/getting in through breaks in your skin is easy for a virus. What follows however depends upon the ability of the virus to infect your cells or not. There are as an example strains of Influenza - some which can infect humans while others can only make animals sick. They are all "Influenza viruses" but their capacity to infect other species is different.
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  30. Media overreaction as is so often the case. Ebola is indeed very dangerous. Fortunately however = it is not easily spread. To catch it you must come into contact with infected fluids from a person who is actively ill. Yet by that point the person is usually incapacitated or quickly will be. So you can not catch it sitting on a bus or moving about your daily life. The only way is via physical contact with actively ill people and/or their infected fluids. 🤔
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  31. It's always amazing what some idiots will be willing to believe...... Just goes to show how things like social media can be detrimental to intelligent cognition. I hope the moppets who believed there was Ebola at Burning Man make sure their "french model" buys the dinner.... 🤭
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  32. Ah....... = no. The problem of "bush meat" is not because it is meat = it is how it is prepared - the same for ancient proscriptions against pork. Any meat properly prepared is perfectly safe for consumption. 🤨
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  33. 🤣🤦 There's always one.......... 🤷
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  34. Why?? Ebola is no problem really. It requires physical contact with infected who are actively sick to spread. So the solution is simple = do not touch infected.
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  35. Yes Ebola is scary. What matters however is it = does not easily spread. People infected with Ebola are only infectious when they are actively ill - at which point they can not move about much. Also you must have direct fluidic contact to catch it. So you can be in proximity with infected and so long as their bodily fluids don't touch you = you will not catch it.
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  36. While your underlying point is certainly valid in that our deforestation etc. plays a large role in the formation of zoonotic viral pathogens - the likelihood of our being "wiped out" is more science fiction than science of course. That is not to say mankind would not incur a lot of damage as a result of a pandemic. Merely that as a general rule the more deadly the pathogen = the easier it is to control the spread. Any viral pathogen which is highly lethal tends to kill its' host quickly. This means outbreaks can be quickly identified and contained. So the most dangerous viruses are actually ones which are not super lethal + which are however easily spread via airborne exposure + which are highly mutable/zoonotic + and finally which make you infectious before you show symptoms. As scary as Ebola is you are not actually infectious until you are actively sick - and which point you quickly become incapacitated. Ebola in man is spread via contact with infectious fluids so simply avoiding touching the infectious will prevent its' spread.
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  37. Another recently created sockpuppet account spewing a largely unintelligible rant......... = never saw that one coming. 🥱
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  38. While your angst is understandable - it is misdirected. Ebola and HIV are as nothing from an epidemiological standpoint as they are not easily transmitted requiring physical contact. The same for rabies as one does not pick it up from the proverbial toilet seat. So from an infectious disease standpoint the infectious diseases which should cause you the most angst are = those easiest to spread - which means airborne. Moral of the story: for scale of "impact" the worst infectious disease is probably Influenza. It is endemic everywhere and its reach makes it ubiquitous. Yes most survive it = yet it still makes them ill for a time. This means people are sick ------> miss work/school -------> some see the doctor --------> most take medications of some type be they prescription or OTC ------> some end up hospitalized --------> some of those incur prolonged if not lifelong health problems as a result = and finally some die. Numbers are difficult to pin down because many nations do not track Influenza deaths among adults - especially older ones - seeing them as "a natural outcome" given other comorbidities the individual might have. All of above results in a massive "impact" across the socioeconomic spectrum which cost society an enormous amount of money and resources in addition to the mortality rate associated with it. So as terrible as some infectious diseases are on the surface if they really do not normally impact large numbers of individuals then their real impact is less. Influenza accounts for literally billions of cases annually worldwide. Think about what that represents. Have a nice day. 🤔
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  39. 🤦Someone needs to learn about = zoonotic transmission........ Almost 75% of infectious viral diseases which afflict man came from other species. That coincidentally simply indicates the obvious = there are far more numerous species on the planet than man. Moral: man interacts with his environment to include consumption of wild animals. That interaction = is what leads to viruses making their way into human populations.
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  40. Amazing in that you are completely wrong....
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  41. Books written by people whose purpose is of course - to sell books - tend to not be a very accurate representation of reality. They as with all things must be viewed in context and taken with a grain of salt. Hence in the years since the breakup of the USSR no one has been nuked and no biological weapons have been employed. As an aside. Look at the Covid response. Despite the virus originating from Asia - as quite a lot of zoonotic viral pathogens do = the US and Europe were first on the scene with vaccines. The reason is obvious. Their microbiological capacity is superior to others. Ergo biological weapons should they be employed often come back to bite the user as once released they can not be controlled. In so much as the West is more advanced here = they make for the least susceptible targets. "Bugs" and nukes are weapons of fear and not practical use. They create far more problems than they purportedly solve and their use massively complicates command and control for the side which uses them. That is why nations moved away from them to begin with. 🤔
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  42. Translation: your assumed beliefs are being dashed by logic and evidence compelling you to "pick up your toys and flee the sandbox". 🤭
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  43. Look at the anti-vaxxer trolls in the comment section folks = then look at when their accounts were created. Moral: most are nothing more than recently created = sockpuppet accounts........ - and THAT tells you everything you need to know about the anti-vaccine industry.
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  44. Now there are. At the time of the last epidemic however while vaccines were in the final stages of development none had been approved.
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  45. Imagine that = wrong on all counts........ 🥱
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  46. No = not quite. You are confusing "mRNA" technology for "recombinant viral vector" technology - which is what some modern vaccines use. The Ebola vaccines are a modified vector technology. mRNA = introduces a segment of RNA which causes the cell to generate proteins which mimic the morphological shape of the antigenic proteins/peptides found on the surface of a viral pathogen. Thus upon this segment entering the cell the ribosomes will produce corresponding segment of proteins similar to those found on the viral capsid. These exit the cell to generate an immune response. "Recombinant viral vector" = takes the gene responsible for antigen expression in your viral pathogen = and introduces that into an innocuous "vector". So now when the vector is introduced into the body - after attenuation - it enters the cell and causes copies of itself to be produced. The vector itself however is not dangerous while it has on its surface the antigenic structure needed for your immune system to generate corresponding IgG antibodies - which are what give you immunity. As an aside. There are also recombinant vaccines which cut up a viral pathogen to obtain the needed antigen and that is artificially reproduced. Then it is purified and used to create a vaccine along with an adjuvant to stimulate a local inflammatory response. Your immune cells reacting to the adjuvant encounter those antigens and react much as if a virus having the same on its surface had invaded your body. 🤔
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  47. 🙄 Color me skeptical........ p.s. - in 2016 when there was an outbreak of Ebola in Sierra Leone = there was no Ebola vaccine available yet....
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  48. No - Outbreak was fanciful rubbish........ = watch "Contagion" as that was a more realistic take on the emergence of a new novel viral pathogen. A lot of what was in the movie = was what happened with Covid.
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  49.  @HumorousLOL  So what do you know = more fanciful rubbish...... - not going too well for you is it. So here is your freebie: Ebola makes you contagious = AFTER you are actively symptomatic - by which time you are rapidly incapacitated..... Ergo Ebola despite having a high mortality rate as hemorrhagic fevers do = is not especially infectious. You can sit next to someone who is "prodromal" and not catch it. The "it goes airborne and wipes out a town" is Hollywood nonsense.
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  50. "Transmissibility" Ebola = zoonotic virus which is ONLY spread via contact with infected fluids. Further to be infectious a person must be actively ill - at which point they are typically incapacitated. SARS-CoV-2 = zoonotic virus which is spread by BOTH contact and airborne transmission. Further people infected with Covid are infectious BEFORE they manifest any symptoms so as to know they are even ill. Final thought. While both viruses are zoonotic = SARS-CoV-2 has already made "the jump" into multiple species besides man. Further despite multiple vaccines being available there are still sizeable populations who either can not access them - or simply refuse to. This means there are countless millions of unvaccinated people around the planet who provide the virus "free real estate" to spread and mutate along the way. 🤔
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  51. Wow....... = an actual botski....... 🤭
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  52. Remember where they were and the timeframe. Modern asepsis techniques did not become widespread until AFTER the HIV epidemic of the 70's-80's. Prior to that people often did not wear gloves and sterilization in "underdeveloped areas" like the Congolese jungle was hit & miss.
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  53. 🤭 There's always one......... Let me guess = a Faux News drone....... Perhaps you should read up on their Dominion settlement...... They admitted via their very own texts/emails that they purposely lie to their viewers because they fear they might change the channel if told the truth + their stock prices would drop as a result........... Garbage in --------> Garbage out - it never grows old. Amazing how gullible some people are. 🤷‍♂
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  54. 🤭 Good science fiction = bad science...... Any viral pathogen spread via contact which acts in such a rapid manner will not spread as in the movies. Unlike say an airborne spread illness which you can not see coming at you = infected are readily identifiable and dealt with. p.s. - this is what coincidentally inhibits Ebola from spreading out of control. The only reason it spread so much before was because of cultural practices of handling the infected/dead among people who were not educated about not touching them. Once they learned to avoid touching the sick = spread ceased.
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  55. To add to that epidemiological experts having been studying Ebola for decades now feel the chances of it going airborne are slim to none. We as humans appear to be = a mistaken host. All the strains of Ebola out there - and even ancient Filoviruses in the archeological record which go back millions of years coincidentally - seem to indicate that the virus's original host was probably = bats. Moral: for Ebolavirus to make the jump to airborne would require assistance. It appears to have began in bats and was subsequently spread to primates - which is probably where man picked it up from. Yet because it is so virulent killing most of the infected this makes spread and mutation difficult. It is hard for new more virulent strains to arise in a virus which already kills most of those infected. Because Ebolavirus is only infectious when the person is showing symptoms - at which point they are rapidly incapacitated - and you require fluidic contact at this stage = it does not readily spread among humans. The only reason it spread in Africa is because of cultural practices of families handling the bodies of the dead. Once locals were educated and stopped this practice = epidemics cease.
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  56. Not really. There tends to be an inverse infection paradigm for infectious pathogens. The ones which tend to be the deadliest tend to spread less easily than ones which - while still potentially lethal - tend to spread very easily while most recover with it being a matter of how sick they end up. So a truly deadly airborne pathogen with a high mortality rate would in the area of its initial spread kill off large numbers of infected. That would trigger a global lockdown much as happened with Covid which would limit its spread in time. Covid spread as it did because we lacked a vaccine + many infected were asymptomatic + most of the world at the time lack basic mitigation strategies like masks etc.. If as you say however it is exceptionally deadly = people seeing that will react differently - especially having gone through a pandemic already. 🤔 p.s. - probably the worst infectious disease from an epidemiological standpoint is = Influenza. While most recover its "net impact" worldwide is enormous infecting billions every year and causing a huge socioeconomic toll for society writ large from a healthcare standpoint + lost work productivity etc..
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  57. 🤣🤦 Someone needs to stop mixing Tranq with Crank = and get some fresh air........ You wouldn't by any chance be searching for "Q" would you........ 🙄
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  58. The Russian vaccine was developed in response to earlier vaccine attempts following the Ebola outbreak in West Africa - making it "a knock-off" if you will. Further it has only been tested on a small number of people in clinical trials and is only licensed for emergency use = in Russia. Ervebo on the other hand created by Merck is licensed for use in the US and EU being recognized by the WHO as a safe and effective vaccine. It has been employed in actual epidemics in Africa and has subsequently been administered to tens of thousands of people demonstrating its efficacy. So no one is "hiding" anything. There are several vaccines available today but not all as noted have been subject to the rigors of actual field testing and subsequent licensure in the global market. 🤨
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  59. Poor assumptions invariably lead to poor conclusions. So a person with Ebola is not infectious until they are symptomatic. By that point = they will already be largely incapacitated. Thus they will not be walking around using public restrooms etc.. Further you must come into contact with their infected bodily fluids. In other words they are flat out + oozing from their pores and body orifices = and THAT is what you must touch to become infected.
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  60. September 4, 2024........ = that is all the "wondering" required here........... p.s. - you sockpuppets should learn how to read as I exposed this little trick below....... 🤣🤦
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  61.  @sc3639  Again with the paranoiac claptrap.... - you're on a role. Clearly you need to lay off of something given your warped sense of reality whereby you probably check under your bed at night to make sure some imaginary boogerman is not hiding there.
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  62. Whatever you thought you said = try again. How does one obtain samples from an individual who does not even know they were exposed?? You would have to take samples from large numbers of people to determine if they show antibodies - and even then it is questionable as to why they are seropositive. Also there is an Ebola vaccine which has been undergoing testing since the Ebola outbreak in Africa several years ago.
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  63. Ebola is not especially communicable and hence can easily be controlled. You can stand next to someone with Ebola = and not catch it........
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  64. What a feeble argument.......... Moral: an ESL course might assist you here - as would actually understanding. The topic is = "Ebola" - which is an infectious disease......... Now the infectious disease Ebola is caused by = Ebola Virus - which is a virus. You should have learned the science.
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