Comments by "craxd1" (@craxd1) on "The Occult #325: It is Amusing When Christians Spurn the term "Judeochristian"" video.
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I listened to one of their women, on here, not long back, whose husband is a rab, state that all Christians are doomed. If they only knew what the politics were behind most of them, as this woman admitted to being a communist as well, and was taught it by her people.
With them lies the roots of Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky. The first two's beliefs make up their left wing, and Trotsky's, their right.
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The group that became Christians, were called the Nazarene Sect of Judaism after Jesus' death. He was Jewish, was a Rab, and was reared around the Zealots, which he disagreed with. He started a movement to oppose them, and he became the "messiah" to many over it.
Many Christians try to ignore the OT, and the reason is, it contradicts the NT, and what they've been taught, because that has roots in the Catholic Church, which follows Paul, a Hellenist that I wouldn't trust. However, you can't ignore the OT, as it is the foundation of both faiths.
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In reality, it was already there pre-Marx, with the Diggers and Owenites. These movements are where Engels obtained many of his ideas, and this all occurred pre-French Revolution. This infection started within the textile and garment industry with Owen, but it has religious roots leading back to Wales.
There was a British pastor that went to France, and began speaking to the very French that became the radicals, such as Babeuf (father of communism), Robespierre, and others. I forget the pastor's name, but he was associated with the old Digger's movement, which wanted to reverse the ownership of property or land.
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@_XR40_ There was sectarian division, and violence, between the different Judaic sects. The orthodox saw Jesus as a trouble maker, and wanted rid of him - especially the zealots, which his movement was against. It was no different then, than it is today, with most every religion on earth, where one disagrees with the other.
I don't know at the times that I've heard people from different protestant sects state that their religion is the only one, and scoff at or demean the others, including Catholicism and the C of E, where it all started. Beforehand, the Catholics were doing their best to extinguish the Protestants, and then the Protestants started hunting them.
Violence is not bad today within Christianity, but it is between the other two monotheisms.
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Clarence Spangle Yes, the Chartist uprising, all of it, has its roots in all these older unorthodox religious movements, and it started over the commons, which became land ownership. It's why they hate the middle-class, who became property owners.
The manorial landlords started to rise in power, in that they were allowed, via English law, to start fencing off some of the commons, and this spread to later become land ownership.
It has its roots in unorthodox religion, from mainly the protestants, and later, the... Bohemia was at the center of that during the radical Hussites, and that spread.
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@maxstirner6143 It's roots actually lie in unorthodox Protestantism, which spread. Specifically, in Wales. There was a schism, and a "heretical" movement formed there tied to the Diggers, which wanted to reverse the ownership of property or land. A defrocked Pastor actually brought those ideas to pre-revolutionary France, and spoke to the likes of Babeuf and others.
The movement started, I believe, after the 1400s, when manors were allowed to fence off some of the "commons." This grew, of course, to land ownership.
The poor used to use the commons for pasture, etc, and eventually, it was all taken, but they did give them small plots of land, but not enough to farm. That is what started the entire ball rolling.
Another movement sprang from this, which was the Owenites, and that is the root of utopianism, but it was also based upon heretical beliefs from unorthodox Protestantism, going back to the radical Hussites, and another group (1666 London), which had spread across Europe, and into Britain. Several of today's protestant religions have their roots here, such as the Unitarians and Moravians. Textile and garment just happened to be big business with a certain group that Marx was from.
Anyhow, these beliefs came into the textile and garment industry via Owen and Engels, as well as through certain unorthodox beliefs in Europe which Marx knew of. Marx was an atheist, but his father claimed to convert to obtain work as an attorney. His father disowned him.
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@Mae4Ever There was a big debate about that in 325 AD. One sect of Christianity said that he wasn't, (Arianism, that of Arius), but it was ruled that he was during the First Council of Nicaea. That was when the Roman church was officially created, with its credo.
"The nature of Arius's teachings and his supporters were opposed to the theological doctrines held by Homoousian Christians, regarding the nature of the Trinity and the nature of Christ."
Arius was expelled, and exiled. His followers were hunted down, and killed, and their writings were burned.
In the book of John, it states the he sits at the right hand of God, and he was called the Son of Man 70+ times within the bible.Take that for what you will.
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@williamghost1516 People need to realize how old this sectarian violence actually is, as it goes back to ancient Mesopotamia, where the first laws were written down, which later, over time, became the ten commandments.
There were several cities along the banks of the Euphrates and Tigris, and each one had a temple to a different god or goddess. They would disagree and war with each other, where it left them vulnerable to attack from other civilizations farther off, such as the Assyrians.
There is a Mesopotamian story about Abraham, and what had occurred in Ur. Abraham's father ran a shop that made idols, which Abraham was against, as it went against Enlil's commands. The city was hit by several plagues and wars, supposedly brought about by Enlil. After the last war, Enlil comes to Abraham, and tells him to take his family west, to Palestine, which he did.
However, the sectarian violence continued in the Levant, especially under King Ahab, and afterwards. It's been that way ever since. All of it is over "my religion is the only true religion."
This is why that after WWII, the World Federalist Movement inside the UN wished to create a one world religion, and a one world government, which they've been trying to bring about since then. They even tried to build a universal church in DC years ago, which Eleanor Roosevelt was involved with, but it fell through.
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