Comments by "shazmosushi" (@shazmosushi) on "Australia's Water Project Failure: An Economic Breakdown" video.

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  2. In some way I'm inclined to agree. Almost all areas in Australia without HFC keep their old (formerly Telstra-owned) copper telephone cables (so no digging up people's gardens) while the rest of the network is upgraded to FTTC (so fiber-optics all the way to those oval shaped pits in the footpath). Everyone on FTTC has the option to pay $3000 per residence to upgrade to FTTP (under the "Technology Choice Program"). Side note: I heard from ISP owners that installing a fiber-optic "lead in" shouldn't cost more than $300, so NBN Co charging $3,000 is still a bit crazy. For FTTN, getting FTTP costs a crazy $10,000 upgrade per premises under the "Technology Choice Program". As you may know, FTTC can in theory ~1000mbps speeds with G.Fast, but you may have to replace ageing copper telephone cabling to get there (at which point you may as well install FTTP because most of the installation cost is labour). FTTP is absolutely not "glorified HFC": Yes, HFC can in theory also have speeds in excess of 1000mbps, but you need to have "DOCSIS 3.1" modem endpoints, high quality cabling and most expensively restructure the entire HFC network in a way that allows end users to get those speeds. Australia's HFC network was decided for cable TV (where there's a common signal broadcast to many houses), and restructuring the HFC network to handle this is extremely expensive. While the term GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network) is sometimes used interchangeably with FTTP you should be very careful: GPON can refer to the standard "G.984" (which NBN uses to provide a maximum 1000mbps connection), but by simply upgrading the modem in your kitchen (and some equipment in the exchange) you will be able to 10G-PON (10,000mbps), and I believe even NG-PON2 (40,000mbps). Because fiber-optic cables can handle far more data than HFC. The HFC/FTTN/FTTC sounds cost-effective in theory, but so much money has been thrown at trying to make those ageing copper networks fit for purpose. It costs a lot of money to rebuild the HFC or FTTC network to be capable of 1,000mbps. But now there are 10,000mbps and 40,000mbps network speeds that are being rolled out in countries with with fiber-optic networks. Even the Adelaide CBD has that, see GigCity. Starlink and its 150mbps download will not be widely used in dense cities. NBN's FTTP network can get you 1,000mbps download today. And in future 10,000mbps under 10G-PON, with hopefully 40,000mbps under NG-PON2 being rolled out eventually. Simply put: for high-speed internet, nothing compared to fiber-optics.
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