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Comments by "Stephen Brookes" (@stephenbrookes7268) on "Heresies Ep.9: The Left's Battle with the White Working Class - Labour's New Class War (4k)" video.
The exact same criticism can be leveled at the Tories. The truth is that most people vote based on the false belief that one of the main parties will do something for them. If we actually get to grips with the idea that the goverment is not there for the vast majority of the population. The Tories are totally not there for the majority. The PM is a well documented liar with a history of contempt for anyone poor, or in his opinion a pleb, indeed anyone not of his privleged class. The vast majority of his cabinet are rich, upper class people, with the most patritian views. I agree that Labour also does not represent the workers in the way it used to at least appear to. However, if we do not have an opposition we do not have a democracy. I would rather elect a different party, every two terms regardless of their levels of inconptetence and irrelevance of their ideologies, than to allow back door totalitarianism. Which is what we currently have.
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I would love to know if too many white men are voting for any particular party. If so I suggest that if white men en mass refused to vote for anyone, how would this effect the number of votes?
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@englishpayerofgermantaxes8186 Like many ideologies this looks like an ideal solution. However, it is not without its pitfalls. There are potentially as many opinions on everything as there are people. Therefore, under PR, there is the potential for there to be 1 political party per voter. Some people simply don't have the will, desire or ability to make decisions. There are in fact quite a large group that do not want to take any responsibility. These people are very susceptible to extremists. Extremists offer simplistic solutions to complex issues and the majority see only simplicity. PR could and has led to Fascism. What would be better would be an apolitical party. A party built entirely on the needs of the masses as opposed to their ideology. However, this needs to be one option but without too many options.
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@matthewwatkins7473 Maybe you meant PR elected upper house. If you propose to do away with the House of Lords, as in the automatic right of some useless toff wastril to be part of the government and cronies of the corrupt party getting a life peerage as pay off for the money laundering, gerrymandering, palm greasing, diverting tax to private sector and other self promoting BS, (Boris will become Lord Scarecrow of Lech or Lord Lothario) then yes let the upper house be elected and PR would be perfect. As the Lords of merit usually form up loose coalitions regardless of their party, on important constitutional issues. I still think we should have a larger number of mainstream parties limited to say 10 and the last party to hold office misses a turn on the next election. This would effectively end the party loyalty dogma and force the electorate to vote on issues not tradition. The first past the post needs to be based on the first to gain an ansolute majority. 51%.This may require a second ballot. Eg 10 parties - 1 the encumbant. 9 campaign. Non PR voting. If say 3 parties got 20% each the other 6 shared 40%. Now it's a 3 horse race. 2nd ballot 40 35 25 then 2 fight in the 3rd ballot. The worst case scenario is a tie 50 50.we get a hung parliament. So no overal power. Ideal government.
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@matthewwatkins7473 I disagree. I believe the potential excitement would have the opposite effect. If you undestand maths, you will umderstand that in a knockout contest you end up with 2 contestants. The most improbable outcome is a tie. If voters do not attend subsequent rounds it makes no difference. The winning line is a percentage of votes cast. Voter apathy is more likely when there are only two contenders, and one is an untested concept the other a proven incompetence. It usually goes that way. If you knew you cannot just dogmatically vote for whom your father did, you will need to study policy.
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@endangerdenglish Do you require reading lessons? If so we have adult literacy classes available to the educationally sub-normal.
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