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First of all She did not kill anyone, she lost her life bcs investigators did not go in the right direction, also Rajiv was not that innocent he never tried to stop the killings of the sikhs, many fathers were burned to death in front of their children, he also starved a sathjagrahi to death, Narasimha Rao did many favours to Chandra Swamy, who do you think benefited from his death?
Not Sivarasan, not LTTE, definetly not Nalini. Chandra Swamy received millions of dollars that year, anybody asked from where he got the money, Nara Simha would have roared, No?
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@Sinhala_buddhist-3934 Sri L'ankan Tamils were unbeatable, that's the reason SL needed help from the world. Research about Mullaitivu battle LTTE finished 1300 army in one night, the rescuers who went to rescue couldn't be rescued. In elephant pass the 1200 LTTE went in between 40 000 army, cut off supply route to the base, capturing the Elephant pass base, In the end China financed the war, India cut off LTTE's shiplines, Russia and Ukraine gave deadly weapons, Ukraine pilots were flying the jets, Pakistan helped with shells. Iran and Israel helped with weapons that's how SL won the war, I mean by begging other countries.
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I am not selling anything that's not true, even you can go and read what IPKF did, even books were written about those incidents, broken pal. and the IPKF commander later wrote a book Karkat Singh, he blamed the Indian gov. and advisors more than the LTTE. Regarding LTTE, you only know the propaganda by SL gov., you don't know ground situation, in the east children in their teens joined the LTTE willingly bcs by being with the LTTE, they had more chance to live than being with their parents, villages after villages youths were taken and killed, even the remainings were not spared sometimes, search what happened in Sathrukondan. You know the truth? Come to open debate, we will discuss. LTTE carried out over 200 suicide attacsks, no body under 18 went for those attacks, 90% of those were on military targets, done by volunterred LTTE fighters, even then they chose the best, then they had some policies, if family member already dead in the war then he or she can't go. You guys only criticise the LTTE, don't have guts to say anything about SL army/IPKF. If you want I tell you two incidents, a group of army killed school kids and blamed that on the JVP, if they can do that to their own people imagine what they can do to Tamils, They killed a politicians named Athulath mudali and blamed that on the LTTE, many many incidents were done like these, LTTE got blamed. I am not say LTTE was perfect, they were definetly better than IPFK and SL army.
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@rajnairnair785 Who is terrorist? The IPKF did horrible crimes in SL, they behaved like terrorists, going into homes in the name of searching doing looting and raping, if women are alone. Firing at innocent people, touching women inappropriately, going into hospitals n killing people, torturing the relatives of the LTTE, killing the relatives of the LTTE.
Rajeev was no innocent either, first he failed to stop the genocide of the sikhs, so many innocent people died. Then he forced Prabaharan to sign the accord, threatened him, LTTE clearly said they don't want IPKF in SL, Rajeev sent forcefully to wipe out LTTE, who gave the right to Rajeev. He left Thileepan starve to death, through sathjagraha, that's not injustice for you. He handed 12 members, including 2 regional commanders to SL to be tortured to death, according to the accord Rajeev/ipkf was resp for their protection. Just pure back stab. If any happened to the armyi it's bcs of his stupidity, and he armed other groups while disarming the LTTE, and that moron expected LTTE to stay silent,, he bullied them. He didn't even have any political knowledge, relied on arrogant half baked adivisors, it's them dug the grave for him, people like Dixit. LTTE hardly killed lankans, you really know what happened in the end or not? Over 100 000 Tamils got killed in cold blood in 6 weeks, in the no fire zones, they are not terrorists for you, shame on you people, time will come.
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Rakesh Kumar Buddy stop listening to ur good for nothing politicians, 4000 years ago you were also Tamils, even Kannada people, 6000 years back even marathese were Tamils, go and learn proper history, study what DR Ambedkar have to say about Tamils/Nagas, Tamil history say Tamils lived as far as Himalayas, so don't come here and bullshit, Sri Lanka also land of the Tamils, stop messing with the Tamils, if you don't change ur attitude, even living in TN would become difficult for you,
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@jackreacher4766 In 1956 a crazy Sinhala politician called Bandara Nayaka campaigned saying he would make ceylon a Sinhala buddhist nation, just to win the election, even being a Christian himself, and ignorant Sinhalese supported him, after he came to power he brought the Sinhala Only act, Tamils protested peacefully, and he unleashed terror on peacefull protestors, riots began killing 100s of Tamils, slowly him and his wife Srimavo plunged the Country in blood bath with their idiot policies. They restricted Education and Employment to Tamils, students rose up, one of them was Prabaharan. So it was the SL Gov. who was the root cause of the problems.
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@IYARKAI_KADHALAN_ It's Indra Ghandi who gave some additional training, Tamil groups got their basic trainings in Lebanon, the war started in 1979, many attacks were carried out before Indra Ghandhi involved. SL gov. fell on Rajiv feet, asking for his help after miller wiped out a camp, Rajiv blessed them, took a u turn, anti Tamil JN Dixit spat toxic venom into the ears of Rajeev, he decided to wipe out the LTTE. The least he could have done was to save Thileepn from his cruel death, the Sathjagrahi died without taking food or water for 12 days, horrible death. The tortures the Rajiv convicts went through cannot be told in words, they had very little or nothing to do with his killing. Also Rajeev handed over 15 members of the LTTE to be tortured and killed what a peace keeping, even after experiencing it by himself, he almost died in the parade. I feel bad for his death, but Rajeev was not innocent either, he failed to take action on the Jaffna hospital killings, did nothing to stop the killings of innocent sikhs, many fathers were killed, burned alive in front of their children, when the evil come out....
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@varunsingh1016 She did not kill anyone, didn't even know about the plot either. Haribabu also went with them he died in the blast, if you see a picture of Haribabu with Sivarasan will you conclude he was also part of the plot, he was taken to take photos, LTTE never hired any public people to take photos in their history, that's another story, Nalini was taken bcs she had TN accent, to manage the police, the only mistake she did was to marry an LTTE guy, even he tried to quit the LTTE. CBI Ragothaman before his death gave one truth, Nalini is innocent.
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I don't agree, killing Rajeev was right, but Rajeev committed horrible mistakes, failed to stop the killings of innocent sikhs, negotiated only with SL gov. and forced the accord on the LTTE, invited Prabaharan and threatened him in Delhi, kept him in house arrest and finally invited to his house and gave his bullet proof jacket and said good luck, this is not the way to negotiate, he lacked both political and dharmic knowledge, he forced his decisions on them, which back fired at him, I m not sure if LTTE leadership was involved, my only anger is Rajeev failed to save Thileepan from his cruel death, it was his resp.. Only that incident caused so much rage among Eelam Tamils.
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When Tamils were starving in the no fire zones India didn't look at them, congress was busy supporting the butchering, no space, no food, no medicines, no sleep, Tamils went through hell. Even Karunanidhi did not allow any help, 150 000 butchered in 2 months, now they helping bcs other side is starving, the help goes mostly to the other side, who been living luxury lives all these yrs, they are hardly helping Tamils, despite the fact TN contributes more to Indian economy more than most states. SL Tamils or Indian Tamils all are same, we care for each other. Beside these are debts more than help to fulfill their interests in the long run.
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@jackreacher4766 World can call them whatever they want for me they are more than Heros, who sacrificed their lives for their people, expecting nothing in return. They were highly disciplined military in the world, if there is a place where a woman could walk around midnight without fear, even with jewelleries, it was during their regime, no where else this is possible. Let's look at the casualties over the 30 years, Sinhalese killed by the LTTE around 4000-5000, most of them due to collataral damage, while Tamils killed by the SL forces over 200 000, this figure is enough to show who cared about civilians and who were real terrror, peace.
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@ashelythas7017 Tamils did not even want anything as long as they were free to live in their land. It's the Sinhala extremists who started to do brutal things, starting with gal oya massacre, sinhala only act, 1958 massacre, discriminations of education and jobs to Tamils, attack on peaceful tamil conference, only after these, that means after 20 yrs Tamils asked for separate state. After witnessing that SL gov would promote officers if they attack the Tamils. In the mean time Thanthai Selva tried ahimsa for 20 yrs, they made fun of him, threatened him, chased him. Tamils were forced to fight against bullying. Tamils only asked 1/3 of the country where we were living for over 2000 yrs.
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@sumanmotto I don't hate Rajiv just feel bad for him, Rajiv relied on adivsers, mainly JN Dixit. Dixit dug the grave for Rajiv, diplomatically Rajiv couldn't keep Prabaharan in Delhi, people were doing protests in Jaffna for his release, but Rajiv gave Prabaharan a bullet proof jacket in his house, just to warn him. Later ordered Karkirat Singh to finish him when he came for talks, but the general refused saying it's against their military principle. Least Rajiv could have done was to save Thileepan from his cruel death, he even allowed 15 LTTE members to be taken to Colombo, to be tortured. Karkirat Singh tried to stop this, but he was ordered not to intervene, at that time Prabaharan realized IPKF was there to wipe them out. Sivarasan who carried out the assassination of Rajiv was a double agent for the LTTE, previously he was with the Telo. By killing Rajiv they stopped India's support to LTTE/ Eelam, even Karunanidhi refused to allow medicines, blood bags during last stage of the war.
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Rich Tamils helped not only her, even many others, according to your view Haribabu is also a culprit, he was a photographer who did not have a camera, he borrowed from Subha Sundaram, he also got into trouble for giving his camera, that was his first assignment and he was so excited, he come from poor family background, Sivarasan took him with him to take photos, Sivarasan was able to get close bcs of him, as an assistant to him but Haribabu got blasted when he came too close to take a picture, Nalini was used like that.
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First of all Sivarasan was not a LTTE member, he just worked with the LTTE for a while. Hari Babu the photgrapher helped them to go there, he ended up dead, he did not know about their plan. Same with Perarivaalan he just bought them a few batteries, for that 2 yrs more than enough. Batteries can be used for good things as well, even for comminication sets. Just bcs they couldn't get the killers they cant' ask these people to serve time, that's like punishing knife maker for a murder. What punishment IPKF got for murdering innocents in the Jaffna hospital, no one ever got arrested. They are not people for you. Tamils worked for Reddy, got killed in encounter, killing for small crimes? No justice for them. 100 000 Tamils died in the no fire zones, Karunanidhi did not allow blood bags, medicines. Some in power encouraged the SL thugs, India encouraged Tamils to fight back, when they got killed they looked the other way.
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@ragu5323 Thamilahathil/Inthijaavil irukkum saathikal ilankajil iruppathai vida pan madanku, saanaan, konan, thevar, vanniyar, etc, meen pidippavarkal thamilahathil illyaya? Prabaharan antha idathil vasithavar, avarkalin kudumpam mihavum paditha kudumpankalil ontru, thanthai arasu velai, pirappaal theevira saivarkal, Prabaharan ujarntha saathi, Saathijil enakku udanpaadu illai, Thamilarkal juthathitku pirahu saathi paahupaadu illaamal ottumajaha ullanar. Karaijil iruppavarkal karajaar, ellorum meen pidippavarkal entru artham illai, athu thaalntha sollum alla.
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@euanpatriciawallace7574 Sivarasan took Hari Babu, a photographer, he also went with them. When he came too close to take a picture he got blasted, that was his last picture, orange flare. He is no more. Another fact the LTTE never hired public to take photos in their 30 yr history. They will die to protect or destroy evidences, when SL cid chased an LTTE member who was collecting info abut Katunayaka military airport, to avoid torture and destroy evidence he ran into fire place of a bakery, ran straight into it and burned everything including himself. Sivarasan took Nalini bcs she had TN accent, to manage the police. Sivarasan told Nalini LTTE wanted good relations with Rajiv, so we have to welcome him.
Ranganath who rented house to Sivarasan said they both went to see Chandra Swamy, he tried to tell the same day Sivarasan died he was beaten not to open his mouth, Sonia Ghandi got to know about his interview invited him with heavy security to her place, where Ranganath fell on her feet and told everything he knew. while he was in jail one of those guys who beat him took his wife, Ranganathan so heart broken and fearing for his life sought refuge with Nedumaaran Iyaa.
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@jackreacher4766 Even India is no exception regarding eye for an eye, poIitical stunt? violating the rights of others not a political stunt, still Tamils tried to settle issues through Sathyagraha, they spent another 20 years under thanthai Selva. Sri Lanka and India are our native land what's ur problem with that? where is peace in the world, even in India so much problems....I talked enough of Indian army, the General Karkat Singh who was in command and who wrote about his experiences blamed the Indian Gov. and policy makers more than the LTTE, for escalating the problems. Regarding Rageev assassination there is not enough evidence to blame LTTE leadership. One eye Sivarasan worked with LTTE after IPKF left, but belonged to another group, he had some LTTE members in his control, in Tamil Nadu, he also had connections with some Indian politicians, other fact is that not a single congress member was with Rajeev, they knew something, even his wife stayed home, Subramany Swany went to Isrel many times around that time, Mr Ranganath tried to say about Sivarasan's connections with them, but he was beaten not to open his mouth, even I have many doubts.
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@jackreacher4766 Why should I support all groups, I only support the LTTE, and I don't agree with everything you said, name one journalist killed by the LTTE..it's all propaganda by the SL Gov, it's the SL Gov. which killed many journalists so far, I can list names. Prabaharan told Rajeev not to send the army, Rajeev and others threatened Prabaharan in New Delhi, to sign the accord, they dis armed the LTTE and re armed other groups, they did not carry out any thing they promised in the
accord, they disrespected the fasting campaign of Thileepan, left him die without food or water, they arrested and handed over some important LTTE members to the SL gov., something against the accord. Only after these the LTTE attacked the Indian army, ambush is a tactic, Indian army went into Jaffna hospital and fired indiscrimately at the staff, doctors, patients killing more than 65 people, after an LTTE attack, something LTTE did not do in 30 years.
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@utkarshkher These are not killers,they don't have direct involvement, some were LTTE members with no knowledge of the plot, some were sympathizers of the LTTE like Perarivalan, again no knowledge of the plot. DMK did not have any connection with Rajiv's death, Karunanithi personally did not like Prabaharan. They tortured them beyond words to fit them into their story, they also added Haribabu as an accused, an accused who went closer to Rajiv and Danu to take a photo. Their story don't make sense. Ranganath was willing to give many info, he was beaten not to open his mouth, he lost his teeth. While he was in jail one of those guys who beat him, took his wife with him, Sonia Gandhi know all these, she don't like Karthikeyan anymore.
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@utkarshkher S. Swamy declared Rajiv is dead 10 min before his death, Sivarasan and Ranganath went to see Chandra Swamy to talk about escape route, there were LTTE members who escaped to Eelam around that time, Sivarasan did not have contact with the LTTE. Ruling party at that time removed commando protection for Rajiv, major mistake. Sivarasan hired a public person to take photo, to leave evidence behind. Not the work of LTTE. M K Narayanan took the only cassette of the event, never gave it back. Chandra Swamy received millions of dollars in that year, no body had the guts to investigate him, as he was closer to Nara Simha Rao. Yaseer Arafat gave info about the party that wanted him dead. They tried to kill Rajiv during the parade in SL, SL benefited from his death, SL and Chandraswamy both played games together. They could have arrested Sivarasan alive by mixing something to the milk they were getting from a lady, Karthikeyan wanted them dead.
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@softgrowl Sivarasan was no stranger to Arivu, Arivu helped Sivarasan to get license even when he had only one eye, he helped in many ways. Hari Babu also, but Hari Babu died in the blast, means he did not know anything about the bomb. Another person Athirai, she was a human bomb, CBI arrested her and released her, she lives in Europe, why they released? Also they released a driver of Sivarasan, the one Athirai marrried, Danu's photo after death carry Pottu in her forehead, but when she hold the garland she is not wearing one. Very strange. Rogothaman said the bomb was not made in India, but CBI tortured Arivu to confess that he was the one who made the bomb.
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Kkr What punishments were given to those congress leaders who gave alcohol and money to thugs to kill innocent sikhs?
Many innocent fathers were burned to death, beaten to death in front of their children, as their children screamed. Even women and children were killed same way in some incidents, just shame. Shame on justice system. What punishment for IPKF who went into jaffna hospital and butchered everyone? What's the difference between Kasab and IPKF? In Valvettithurai after an LTTE attack 3000 IPKF surrounded the village killed everyone on sight, looted and burned houses, raped and killed women, no punishment, just shame. Rajiv left sathjagrahi Thileepan to starve to death, most horrible way to die, died after not taking water or food for 12 days, whose fault? Ego of Ragiv and Dixit failed to save him. He just had cruel death. 2 weeks later Rajiv handed 12 members of the LTTE to Criminal SL thugs, violating the accord, which resulted in the war, as they committed suicide. This guy Sivarasan was a double agent, Cnadra Swamy was very happy before and after Rajiv's death, gave sweets, according to his former devotee, Sivarasanan and Ranganath visited him after Rajiv's death, to discuss escape routes. Them money found along with Sivarasan team 15 lakh in 1991, over one crore of today's value, given by Swamy, CBI knew this, Karthikeyan did not have guts to investigate, as it would turn everything upside down, his friend Nara Simha was protecting him, that's the reason the trial took snail pace. Criminals should be punished don't matter who, but in India it's a different story. Chandra Swamy was driving luxury vehicles without number plates in and around Delhi, as traffic officers saluted him. After all he was a boy who ran from his house and became a Swamy, who had contacts with the western figures and criminals, why no investigation on him, Jain commission instructed CBI to investigate, all they did was torture these people beyond words, just horrondous. All need to know every soul will experience fruits of their deeds, no body escape, not even a kiing. According to Vallalar human birth is so precious, most difficult to get, see what we are doing with it, causing sufferings to all beings.
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@anonymous-ph9pm Well they did nothing when sikh fathers were burned to death in front of their children, at least 8000 sikhs were killed after the death of Indra Ghandhi, Sonia/Rajiv did nothing when a sathjagrahi was starving to death, Thileepan died without food or water for 12 days, 150 000 perished in the no fire zones while congress turned their face away, Indian navy partly responsible for their deaths. They cut off LTTE supply routes, they couldn't protect their zones. India just watched their deaths, no medicines, no food, small space, being shelled day and night, and they wanted give solutions to the Tamils though the IPKF. What a joke. After the verdict to hang the seven one girl in TN immolated herself to change their decision, Karunanidhi and Governor first reduced the death penalty of Nalini to life in prison, later sc did the same for others bcs there is no evidence to prove they knew about the plot. The killers committed suicide so there was nobody to serve, they did not have guts to go after Chandra Swamy or other Swamy.
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