Comments by "Smaakjeks K" (@smaakjeks) on "Rubbin’ Buttz BBQ Restaurant Owner Stands By White Appreciation Day" video.

  1. The_Warmonger There's literally no need to support straight people for being straight. No one in the history of humanity has suffered systematic discrimination or alienation due to being straight.
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  2. Jan F The forum is open. You are free to make an ass of yourself by pretending straight people have historically and presently gone through terrible strife due to their orientation.
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  3. Jan F "Straight people? This is about race not sexuality." I'm responding to the OP. What are you responding to? "Equality is per definition the equal treatment, no matter what the history." If you want to celebrate the privileged and enfranchised, go ahead. You can arrange a straight pride parade, create a white history month, and make a day to celebrate men's suffrage. When will you open the soup kitchen which serves free soup exclusively to rich people? Can't wait for the charity you're going to set up so people can donate money to the wealthy, and fund doctors to provide them with essential medical care. You can call the effort "Assholes Without Borders", or "Limitless Assholes".
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  4. TheDarthJesus "How is that equality?" Because certain demographics have been disenfranchised and marginalised in the past and also the present. The pride movements are not about how being gay or black or whatever is superior to being something else. The movements have the spirit of equality about them. For example, white people don't need to affirm their identity because our identity has never been marginalised by almost every facet of society. White people in the Western world are seen as the default human. So, when somebody else goes "Hey, black people have done some incredible things too, you know" it shouldn't make you upset that the spotlight went off white people for a while. The other 11 months out of the year you get to revel in the history mostly as it was recorded by white people. Edited: Well done on thumbing up your own post. I guess you agree with your own words.
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  5. Riccy R "White deserve fuckall!" Eh. Easy there, sport. "If anything they should have a 'white apology day" Where white people go around saying sorry to every other minority lol." No. We can't change the past, and white people are not born more racist than other demographics. I don't doubt that any race would historically have the same xenophobia and propensity to oppress as other races. It just happened to be people with white skin that developed global colonialism and came out on the "winning" side of history. Not because people with pale skin are better at oppression, or colonialism, or science. That's just how history played out. There's no point in apologising for being white, because whiteness doesn't enter into it. The winners of land and power simply looked after their own and formed society to their liking. Those of us alive today merely inherited the wealth and privilege thereof.
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  6. wteva99 Sorry. How's this: Did you know rainbows are actually LASER chemtrails created by the Illuminati?
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  7. Vecheslav Novikov "independence was the very thing that allowed the constitution to exist" Pens also allowed the Constitution to exist. So, the 4th of July is really all about pens. Come on, this is the same childish rhetoric that makes southeners squirm in their seat about the Civil War. Oh, it was for totes about state rights. Sure, it was a big step towards ending slavery, and that was nice too.
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  8. Vecheslav Novikov Your point seems to be this: 4th of July is an inclusive holiday, because the Constitution protects its citizens from slavery. 13th amendment, hurrah hurrah. In actuality the 4th of July is a celebration of the independence from Great Britain. Sure, that meant that a constitution had to be penned, but that's not what the celebration is about. I can understand that people find it insultingly ironic to celebrate that particular day (freedom from a governing body) when slavery was still allowed to exist in the USA. It's not that the day is malicious in nature or shouldn't be celebrated. After all, the day was not explicitly celebrating slavery. But, to pretend that the celebration is one of freedom for all citizens is a bit silly. That's why it can be considered a holiday for white Americans. However! Personally, I think the day has become a day everyone can enjoy. I mean, otherwise when a celebratory day of history comes around, are we meant to lament all the social and legal injustices that happened during that time in history?
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  9. Riccy R "Oh come on, you know having better technology does not excuse anyone from being a racist or sexist or homophobic." I never said or implied it was a good excuse or a reason to be racist/bigoted. "They enslaved them not because they were "smarter" but because they could" You're not quoting me, because I never even used the word "smarter" in my posts. In fact, I specifically said it was not because white people are better at certain things. I'm swiftly losing interest here, knowing that you're not actually reading what I'm writing. "Sorry but racism on those levels where they're still killing beating and creating black peoples lives a living hell, today!" This is word salad to me. "They do not do any of these things to white people or any other races in Africa or the middle east. Only white people seemed to be raised to be racist, other races seem to accept all other races." You have this belief because you haven't read the history of places where there was prejudice, war and slavery practiced upon people of foreign ethnicity. "Mind you the white racists now are usually retards who have very shit education. Proving only dumb people are racists, and not the educated more advanced people." This is something we can agree on.
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  10. Vecheslav Novikov You're right, white people are not a homogenous race. None of the races we define for humans are homogenous. The races are social constructs based on physical characteristics and heritage. Though genetic in nature, these traits are shared more between "races" than isolated within them. You might as well divide up all blue cars and all red cars and claim they are different and distinct kinds of cars.
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  11. Vecheslav Novikov You're not supposed to feel guilty about being white. When I hear about the discrimination of the past and present against people for their race, religion or gender, I try to understand it and to be sympathetic towards them. I try to understand that society even today doesn't stack the odds evenly. There are other kinds of inequality as well, of course. Tall people have more professional and social benefits than short people. Beautiful people have more benefits than plain or, well, ugly people. Etc. You're not supposed to feel guilty. But, you can acknowledge the general benefits that come with being white, or tall, or beautiful. That doesn't mean your life is a gravy train. It means that the dice are weighted in your favour.
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  12. Vecheslav Novikov "it celebrates the constitution that protects you today. That's what July 4 is about." Yes. That's why the 4th of July is called Constitution day and not something related to independence at all.
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  13. Vecheslav Novikov No. My point remains, even though I didn't quote your sentence in full. Ask a historian to give a one-sentence answer to what the 4th of July is about, do you think he or she is more likely to mention "independence" or "constitution"? You don't need to report to me what you think the answer is. Ask yourself and see what you come up with.
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  14. Finally the white people can catch a break! /sacasm
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  15. Riccy R "everything you're saying is all the more reason to not have a "white appreciation day"" That would cause me to revise my thinking if not for the fact that you clearly haven't understood what I've been trying to say. Your refutations (as far as they've made any sense at all) are of points I never made. We agree that racist people are morons, and that there doesn't have to be a white appreciation day. Beyond that, I suspect we've been talking past each other more than anything else.
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  16. xPokemonPlayerx I have answered that question already. No, I'm not bigoted.
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  17. Jan F "You were responding to my comment which did not include anything about sexuality." The opening post did, so I reasonably assumed you wrote in context of the comparison. But, if that's unfair in your opinion, you can replace where I wrote "straight people" with "white people" in my post. The response from me would otherwise be the same, word for word. "But it doesn't matter the principle is the same." Exactly. "I'm not interested in the high level cognitive dissonance you're employing to justify the double think of modern "equality"." I employ neither in this case. In other cases, like when I find a bunny adorable to pet but wouldn't mind eating some rabbit stew, then that cognitive dissonance comes in handy. The trick is to compartmentalise. We all do it sometimes, but I'm not doing it in this case. "To truly achieve equality we have to start here and now." Nonsense. There is inertia in socio-economic changes. Black people and gay people don't go through life with the same odds of happiness or success as white and/or straight people. That's a fact. Things are getting steadily better, though. "Constantly trying to right historical wrongs will get you in a never-ending cycle of outrage." Bull. Perhaps a neverending river made of the tears of people whining about how tired they are of hearing about inequality. Well, try living it every day.
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  18. Jan F "So Youtube decided to forget my comment" Argh. That has happened to me as well. I'm not in favour of treating people unequally. Like I said, you can have all the parades you want about how awesome it is to be white, or straight. However, it might come off as extremely obnoxious considering white and straight people have never been oppressed for being that. There is no oppression to cast aside, no self-worth to assert from years of shaming and alienation. Hence my early example of giving free soup or charity to wealthy people. These people don't need the support. I think your heart is in the right place, though.
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  19. Vecheslav Novikov I can't account for what other people say. I can only speak for myself.
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  20. cheapasmilk Hardly a falsifiable belief: If people say we need a white appreciation day, then that means we need one. If people say we don't need a white appreciation day, then that means we need one.
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