Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Bernie Finally Snubs Warren Back" video.
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@poeticgangsta6616 That is factually incorrect (check out the polls of last year). Many Sanders supporters used to like Warren (as 2nd choice), they just got wary when she started waffling on M4A, that was in late summer last year.
Which btw was when she started to slide in the polls. progressives consolidated around Sanders. She had gotten some boost by media (nothing like the fawning over pete, the friendly treatment of Biden or later Bloomberg and Klobuchar - but still, much better than they treated Sanders).
But that media bump dried up, media consolidated behind neoliberal pete, and her "support" went over to pete as well.
Waren was strong with the white affluend coastal middle aged to older people with a degree - but the crowd was fickle, they also liked pete (so that wasn't about policies, this was about the vite they were getting).
But they also would have been O.K. with Klobuchar, or Bloomberg. Any non-Trump with a (recent !) D to their name, that would not touch their privileges.
Sanders might be just too "blue collar" for them.
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@ChallengerBanX Food for thought: I read a comment that the black older voters are used to being disappointed, and (cynically / in a sober manner) factor in what they think the white affluent suburban voters will do - and in their assessment the "white liberal" (MLK and MalcolmX talked about the liberal, resp. the "moderates") would not vote for Sanders in the general.
I think many of them liked Sanders well enough * - but they want Trump voted out and they want a decent guy. Sanders is guilty of supporting the media narrative that Biden can beat Trump (ahem: not even sure he can WITH the corona crisis and that was before), and by calling Biden his good friend all the time he confirmed the other part of the myth as well.
Sanders DID poll well before S.C. - and Biden had no groundgame in many states, his campaign was a lame affair.
That "reasoning" of voters (we like Sanders, but we know and like Biden too, and Sanders seems to be a little bit too "revolutionary") might be the explanation for the dramatic unprecedented shift after S.C. and the Supertuesday result.
From an interview:
Sanders has good ideas - just not for now, now it is time to beat Trump, and Biden is the better man for that. Heard that from a nice older black lady from Queens N.Y. - before corona, but after Super Tuesday. No doubt she thinks she is well informed.
Of course MSNBC Ari Melber would bring SUCH statements - but it might be more than anectodal, because there WAS good polling for Sanders.
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She got over 60 % of the vote in dhe midterms 2018 (in a 3 candidate race, the Indie got only a few percent - but still). - I am not sure if her staying in the race did cost Sanders anything, or if she at that point only had the Hillary faithful and affluent white suburbans as support - people that would not have voted for Sanders in the primary anyway.
But she for sure showed her colors - unlike Gabbard (who has shown some spine in the past and would be stranded in the middle of having no career) Warren is rich, already HAD a distinguished career (Harvard professor with a little help declaring herself a minority ?).
Warren also worked as corporate lawyer (helping big biz NOT pay pension and to avoid paying damages, nothing illegal, but even a Republican candidate would not brag about it).
Plus she (or her brother) flipped houses during / after the financial crisis ....
Warren also can return to her home state with a not too long (domestic) flight (the long distance flights to Hawaii seem to take a toll on all the representatives there - I wonder if that is one reason Gabbard did not seek to defend her seat. Or if it was hard to get funding for her campaign, Sanders I think did not raise money for her, and the DNC had put her on the black list: for being outspoken about Sanders in 2016, and for her anti regime change stance).
So I'll give Gabbard a pass - but not Warren, who is in a much better position when it comes to financial security. Warren is up for reelection in 2024, she should win that easily - and if not she can enjoy her cushy retirment.
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