Comments by "" (@Pythoner) on "How Nomads in Siberia Shower and Spend Their Sundays at −64°C (−84°F)? Yakutia" video.

  1. They're not Yakuts
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  2.  @nataliabaku7938  ну, или дохнешь
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  3.  @jariyrjanainen8770  It's good that your view is different. I'm from Russia and I hope your grandfather found peace after that. Judging by your following comments though, your view doesn't seem to be much more different than his. I'll endeavor to correct you though.
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  4.  @jariyrjanainen8770  Russia didn't occupy your country from 1809-1917 because there was no such country. It was a territory of Sweden and Russia conquered it from them. Finland became a country only in 1917. As for Leningrad, yes I'm afraid Leningrad was the target. The Finns cut the river Svir, this is the river which feeds into lake Ladoga and through which Soviet supplies were getting to Leningrad. Earlier they also cut the railroad from Murmansk when they occupied Petrozavodsk. There was also a combined German-Finnish operation at one stage to interdict Soviet supplies coming to Leningrad via lake Ladoga with torpedo boats.
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  5.  @urankhaysakha  The Soviet Union did not lose the war against Finland, it won the war albeit at a high cost. Finland was forced to cede the territories the Soviet Union had demanded from it, chiefly the territories north of Leningrad. Of course if Finnish defenses had faltered easily then Stalin could have decided to set up a puppet regime there.
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  6.  @jariyrjanainen8770  We're not invading the Ukraine, because we don't consider the Donbass or Crimea as the Ukraine. We're defending our people there; it's their land and the land of their ancestors - it was never Ukrainian. When the Ukrainian army, and Ukrainian nationalists leave these territories - and relinquish claims on them - then we can achieve peace. As for comparisons to Finland - If Finland after declaring independence in 1917 also took with it Murmansk and a bunch of other regions on which Finns didn't live and never lived - but Russians did, and then in the inter-war years decided to prohibit their language and rob them of the right to elect representatives into parliament and all these other policies and call them occupiers on their own land, then eventually got a rebellion and intervention from Russia - then in that case Finland would have something deeply in common with the Ukraine. As it is though you don't, so be happy.
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  7. ​ @urankhaysakha  No, what happened is that Voroshilov was in charge of the war initially. He was incompetent, spread out Red Army efforts over the entire length of the Finnish border, and made the same mistakes over and over with the Finns throwing back one Soviet assault after another. Stalin eventually had him replaced with Timoshenko who reassessed the situation, decided to focus forces just on the Karelian Isthmus, and within a month had launched an operation which broke through Finnish defenses there and alarmed the Finnish leadership enough to sue for peace in return for the territories that Stalin initially demanded. There was no retreat or whatever, I'm not sure where you got this from. Stalin's main goal was not Finland joining the USSR. There were 6 months of negotiations between the USSR and Finland before the war began, where Stalin offered Finland territory in Karelia in return for Finland ceding territory on the Karelian Isthmus, north of Leningrad, as Stalin wanted a larger buffer for Leningrad. He also wanted several islands in the Gulf of Finland. The Finns refused, as the Soviet demands reached past the Mannerheim line, which was their main defensive line. It was this territory that was Stalin's main goal. But once the war started then of course, if the opportunity appeared to make puppet out of Finland then it would have been taken.
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  8.  @urankhaysakha  Well I didn't study in a Russian school, as although I'm Russian I didn't grow up in Russia during my school years. And nowhere am I idealizing Stalin. I'm telling you what happened in military-operational terms. And I'm not discussing losses, as it would be too extensive a discussion. There have been many historians who've tried to arrive at figures but the highest estimates for Soviet losses are about those that you've already posted; 130k killed. But you're talking about about Soviet forces retreating or something yet nothing of the sort happened. You must be confusing it with another war or have read the wrong information. Peace was concluded between Finland and the USSR after the Red Army had forced a decisive breakthrough on the Karelian peninsula and was bringing in more reserves, Mannerheim meanwhile had ordered Finnish forces to retreat, although the very last battle between the sides did end in a stalemate.
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  9.  @urankhaysakha  and by the way when in Soviet times was it necessary to idealize everything that Stalin did? Have you not heard of Khrushchev's de-Stalinization campaign, every single statue of Stalin was removed, every single settlement or city with his name in it was was renamed. Not to mention how he was portrayed in history books. Khrushchev himself spoke of all the Soviet soldiers killed in the Winter War as an example of Stalin's poor decisions - but here he exaggerated. I have the feeling that you're reading Russian history from English-language sources, not actual historians.
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  10.  @jariyrjanainen8770  yes we occupied Finnish people's "living space", but the Finnish people were not opposed; they went from one ruler to another, they had and never had any polity of their own or cities of their own, they lived in villages and life progressed for them as it always had. Stop trying to pretend like you were liberated under the Swedes and oppressed under the Russians. There was no alliance between the USSR and Nazi Germany. Why in that case was Molotov denouncing Germany at the League of Nations throughout the 30s, and then the USSR and Germany/Italy fought a proxy war against each other in Spain? What there was a non-aggression pact for each to buy time, at the expense of peoples in between - but that's the way it is between the big boys. In any case, if you're not complaining about Germany, that you are lambasting us for an alliance with, and are buddy-buddy with them yourself today, then you have nothing to complain with Russia about. We're not ruled by Stalin these days, it's not the USSR either. Yeah, look I sympathize with Finland, honestly, I know we stole your land and everything, although the point was buffer defensive territories not conquest for the sake of conquest. But you're mistaken if you're trying to draw an analogy to the Ukraine here. Because it was never their land for us to come and steal, it was always our land and the land of our ancestors but in 1991 no-one cared because we thought, we're all Slavs, it doesn't matter if Russian land ends up in the Ukraine or whatever. Anyway, there was a war in the Ukraine in 2014-2015, they signed a peace agreement, but they didn't stick to the peace agreement, and all the more so they started inviting NATO troops onto their territory and bringing their own troops to the contact line, and now the war has restarted and we will liberate our people from Ukrainian rule. It doesn't matter if it goes on for years or whatever. It will be done. And if you're friends with the Ukrainians so then tell them not to make the same mistake next time and stick to the peace treaties it has signed. There will be peace again and there will be a new border, where it will be depends on how quickly the Ukraine and NATO sober up and return to the negotiations that they abandoned in April 2022 in Istanbul.
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