Comments by "Jamal Labarge" (@jamallabarge2665) on "Man Looking for Revenge Gets Karma Instead" video.

@EagleEyeChioru He was trespassed, refused to ID. That's call obstruction. They spun him up because he had already had been disorderly in the store. Hollering at the managers. They wanted a "pattern of behavior" on their cameras. If he'd kept quiet they would not have had much of a case for disorderly.
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@TwitterFingers873 "You have yet to say why he would required to ID..." More like I haven't convinced you why he needs to ID....
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@TwitterFingers873 How does Law Enforcement prove that it's you if you go back in defiance of the trespassing order? In theory the guy could claim "That's somebody else!" unless there was proof of his identity. Right?
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@TwitterFingers873 " him being trespassed is very clear in this video." Yes, he was told he was trespassed.. but who is "he"? He could have an identical twin or cousin who resembles him. Even a public pretender could create enough doubt to get the case tossed out. So what then? Does he get a third time to invade the store, or because "trespassing is not a crime" do we toss out his second arrest and ID too?
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@TwitterFingers873 "You only trespass when u return to somewhere u where told not. " In Pennsylvania "defiant trespass" is entering posted property or a building. Time in jail. Return is not necessary. "Trespassing" is the act of informing someone that they are expelled from property. Returning is a crime. A person could defend themselves in court by stating that they were not the person who was trespassed because they were not identified by legal identification. "Go play in traffic." I do every day when I drive.
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@avamerritt8935 "Disorderly conduct requires a complainant…" The store managers complained. Our friend confessed to Police about his hollering in the store. "Trespass warning goes before being trespassed, which doesn’t require ID." This is the correct answer. Twenty six US States require various forms of "Shall ID". Twenty four do not.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "And if the leo forces them to Id (simply for being given a warning) then they sue the pants off of the county/city. And any accompanying charge(s) are swiftly thrown out by the DA. " Big claims require big proof. I'm sure that you can submit one Auditor's name, the police agency and location. They should be proud of their achievement. I've got all day, Buddy.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "The fact that you actually think it depends on which " I actually did.... some States forbade it, some allow it. You protest too much, Buddy.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "Then he sued the department for violating his First and Fourth Amendments lol." Sound like you know this case.... 1. Plaintiff Name 2. Agency Step up or step off, Buddy.
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@bettersteps " What about the food? A home cooked meal, food." Well.... you got to take time from your hobbies. Watching "dancing with the stars" and the like. I look back at my wasted youth - rice cookers, hot plates, microwaves and the like are cheap. You can get them at any second hand store. I am very remorseful today that I did not spend on such things rather than buying processed food.
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@BoB10 "ask for a copy of a contract that you have signed is not against the law" You can ask for anything. Is Dollar General obligated to furnish a copy, upon demand, by the alleged spouse of a person? Maybe she would need to request that document, in writing? I have never seen a Leprechaun.
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@Pork-Zombie_Puke "The laws vary state by state, but in no state are you required to give identification if there is no crime. " Even Florida has limits.... the Florida "stop 'n frisk' law requires articulable suspicion. I suspect that the young man was asked to leave because of his rough ways of asking for a "contract". When they found him on what seems to be the store's property, then he has fulfilled the requirement to be asked for ID.
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He's probably frightened of ending up in prison again. He could be on parole. I think that he goofed up by making a scene at the Dollar General.
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He could write to Corporate, ask for a copy of that agreement. It's probably in their system, probably in her employee file. No point in pressing on people for a copy of internal documents. Especially when you were not the employee. This gent is probably on parole. So he's edgy already.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "And everyone can just move along with their day." You're free to do that now. "Auditors get trespassed from properties all of the time" Yeah, that's nice. Which States are they in?
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@buddygrimfield7954 "Then simply tell me the statute lol. " Florida has a must ID law that they refer to as the "Stop and Frisk law", 901.151. Demanding ID is permitted if the detained individual in the opinion of the officer has committed, is commiting or will commit a crime". Will commit a crime, like tresspass after being given notice. It's pretty logical - how can you trespass someone if you don't identify them? " You can either prove it or shut it, Bud. You know, like a Big Boy does it." Name of the auditor and agency is sufficient. You made this claim that Auditors have sued agencies who demanded ID. When I confronted you, you buckled and tried to put the onus on me to prove it. I take that as admission Buddy that you don't have any names. There is this thing called "elusive obvious" - I see police here on Youtube demanding ID after a tresspass notice. They can't all be breaking the law. However, Buddy, you have that unshakeable confidence......
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@SSFreePress "Wrong. It’s not a crime to be trespassed from private property. " I simply maintain that in some States in the US police may demand for ID as part of the Trespass Notification and file obstruction charges if people refuse to identify themselves. Clarity, FP, clarity.
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@SSFreePress "You do not have to identify to police unless you have committed a crime" Depends upon the State. In Florida police can ask for ID if they have reasonable cause to suspect that you about to commit a crime. (Fl 901.151). In other States police can't ask you for bupkiss. Depends upon the State.
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@cindiaker5778 "They did not like his attitude and that is the only reason he was arrested." That's not true. He admitted on camera that he hollered at the store staff. He admitted to disorderly conduct on police camera. The store staff wanted him tresspassed. He refused to identify himself. They could have given him a pass on the disorderly conduct. He chose to amp it up.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "Try Honor Your Oath" is associated with someone called Jeff Gray. There is an "ID Refusals Master Class" on this channel. A guy says 'God bless the homeless" along a road. Another is taking photos on public property. One guy is on a public sidewalk in front of a restaurant. Another two encounters are shoulders of the road across from military bases. Last one is a verbal abuse of a sheriff's deputy who is working a traffic accident. These were all taken in Florida. For Florida's 901.151 these are reasonable bases for denying a request for ID. 13:17 seconds. Isn't a single case of someone being trespassed from private property. At the best Jeff is asked for ID after loitering in front of a business on a sidewalk. He was not presented with a trespass order, the word was not mentioned. I didn't bother checking any more videos. I did a quick check of Try Honor your oath Jeff Gray. I saw a facebook account. Buddy made the claim that 'auditors have won lawsuits' for refusing to ID. I meant that in the context of above - someone was being trespassed from a Dollar General. So, Buddy - it's on you. 1. Name of Auditor 2. Name of Agency Inquiring minds want to see online evidence of someone suing a Police agency and winning for refusing to ID after being trespassed from private property.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "Try Honor Your Oath " This channel has a video called "Masters class in refusing to ID". About fourteen minutes long. In every case the agency asked for ID when Jeff was on public property. Jeff refused to furnish ID. Was not one case of Jeff being trespassed from a place like a store or a home... So, Buddy.... as I see it, you have not presented a case like we have above. 1. Auditor Name 2. Agency
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@buddygrimfield7954 I did spend some time looking for Jeff Gray's content. I invite interested parties to see "ID Refusals Master Class" on HonorYourOath. Fourteen minutes of a person trolling police while being on either shoulders of roads or sidewalks. In no case does anyone get handed a verbal or written trespassing notice from a private facility or goverment property. So this "masters course" does not pertain at all to the above drama at Dollar General. A Masters Class should have included refusing to ID if someone was trespassed from a store or other private property. I think that Jeff just trolls police for views. He is abusive when no so thing is called for at the moment.
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@buddygrimfield7954 "But I think that we both know that I'm right." If I agreed with you, I would not ask for... 1. Auditor 2. Agency I'm interested in successful lawsuits. You are confident? You know? Share that knowledge.
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Depends upon the fine points of the agreement. Maybe that document is internal to Dollar Store? Only a Lawyer could comment on it.
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@chonqmonk "Asking the police for a copy of a contract you signed with Dollar General is just methy." More so, when your missus signs a contract and you demand a copy "on the spot". There is nothing wrong with asking for a copy. More likely to get a copy if it directly concerns you.
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Nahhh..... sometimes Attorneys end up in prison.
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