Comments by "" (@louistournas120) on "Scientists find troubling signs under Greenland glacier" video.
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@markanthony3275 :
"A group of 500 leading scientists that study climate and related issues signed a letter to tell the U.N. that there is no climate emergency"
==Be careful of where you get your information from. Here is some information about those "scientists":
“Guus” Berkhout (born 1940) is a Dutch engineer who has worked for the oil and gas industry, and as a professor. Berkhout started his career working for Shell. Between 1976 and 2007, he served as professor of acoustics, geophysics and innovation management.
Reynauld Du Berger is emeritus professor of geophysics at the University of Quebec at Chicoutimi. His background is in geological engineering and seismology. A search of Google Scholar returns six results for Reynald Du Berger, all in the area of seismology. He does not appear to have published research in peer-reviewed journals on the subject of climate.
Terry Dunleavy was is a former journalist and commercial printer, and has been involved in the NZ wine industry for many years.
Viv Forbes is the Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition, which was created to “defend the role of carbon on earth and in the atmosphere,” and is a pasture manager, soil scientist and geologist from Rosevale in Queensland. He has a Degree in Applied Science Geology, and is a Fellow of the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy.
Dr. Jeffrey Foss is a philosopher of science, Professor Emeritus at the University of Victoria, Canada, and author of Beyond Environmentalism: A Philosophy of Nature.
Morten Jødal is a biologist. He has worked with the fields of biology and chemistry in the Research Council of Norway, as well as with the research programs aquaculture, genetic engineering, acid rainfall and the ecology of the Arctic ice edge
Rob Lemeire is a civil engineer working on planning and real-time applications for drivers and vehicles.
Richard S. Lindzen is former Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), a position he held from 1983 until his retirement in 2013. He is the Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute’s Center for the Study of Science. Lindzen’s academic interests lie within the topics of “climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability,” according to his faculty profile at MIT. The Cato Institute, a conservative think tank where Lindzen has also published numerous articles and studies, has received at least $125,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. In his 1995 article, “The Heat Is On,” Ross Gelbspan reported Lindzen charged oil and coal organizations $2,500 per day for his consulting services. In addition to his position at Cato, Lindzen is listed as an “Expert” with the Heartland Institute, a member of the “Academic Advisory Council” of the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), and an advisor to the CO2 Coalition, a group promoting the benefits of atmospheric carbon dioxide. As part of a March 2018 legal case between the cities of San Francisco and Oakland and fossil fuel companies, Lindzen was asked by the judge to disclose any connections he had to connected parties. In response, Lindzen reported that he had received $25,000 per year for his position at the Cato Institute since 2013. He also disclosed $1,500 from the Texas Public Policy Foundation for a “climate science lecture” in 2017, and approximately $30,000 from Peabody Coal in connection to testimony Lindzen gave at a proceeding of the Minnesota Public Utilities Commissions in September 2015.
Ingemar Nordin is professor emeritus at the Department of Culture and Communication at Linköping University. As a student, Nordin read both mathematics and physics as well as philosophy. The doctoral dissertation from 1980 deals with determinism and quantum mechanics. His current research areas include both philosophy of science and technology as well as political philosophy and the philosophy of medicine.
Jim O’Brien is a Corporate Social Responsibility/Energy Consultant who had a 39-year career in the building materials sector; he is actively consulting on a global basis in CSR and energy-related challenges and opportunities. Jim is Honorary President of UEPG, the European Aggregates Association. Jim qualified with a First Class Honours Degree in Electrical Engineering (BE) in 1968 and a Master of Engineering Science Degree (MEngSc) in 1970.
Alberto Prestininzi ias a geologist and engineer.
Benoît Rittaud is a senior lecturer in mathematics at the University of Paris.
Fritz Vahrenholt studied Chemistry in Münster and started his professional career at the federal Umweltbundesamt (environmental protection agency) in Berlin and the Ministry for Environment of Hesse. In 1998 he entered the energy industry and until 2001 was on the Board of Deutsche Shell AG, a Shell subsidiary.
Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley is a British public speaker known for his work as a journalist, Conservative political advisor, UKIP political candidate, and for his invention of the mathematical puzzle Eternity. Early on in his public speaking career topics centred on his mathematical puzzle and conservative politics. In recent years his public speaking has garnered attention due to his denial of climate change. He may be most famous for having falsely claimed to be a member of the House of Lords.
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@markanthony3275 :
You had written:
"A group of 500 leading scientists........"
==I was under the impression that you were talking about scientists that study the climate. When I did a web search, I found
1. One guy is doing acoustics, geophysics and innovation management.
2. geological engineering and seismology
3. NZ wine industry
4. Applied Science Geology, and is a Fellow of the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy.
5. philosopher of science
6. biologist <======= This guys might have something interesting to say. Has he observed any negative impacts on aquatic life?
7. a civil engineer working on planning and real-time applications for drivers and vehicles.
8. “climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability,” <============This guy might be interesting but he has associated himself with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute
"In the 1990s, the Heartland Institute worked with the tobacco company Philip Morris to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and to lobby against smoking bans.[3][4]:233–34[5] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial."
9. His current research areas include both philosophy of science and technology as well as political philosophy and the philosophy of medicine.
10. Electrical Engineering
11. geologist
12. mathematics
13. Chemistry. his professional career at the federal Umweltbundesamt (environmental protection agency) <===========This guy might be interesting
14. Conservative political advisor, UKIP political candidate
I haven't checked the entire list and perhaps some of my information is off.
However, if my information is spot on, are these guys the experts? Have they studied the climate?
"If a known prostitute was an eyewitness to a murder...is her testimony null and void because she's a prostitute?"
==There is a difference between testimony and evidence. In court systems, evidence is preferred since it is more reliable. As for testimony, there is no way to scan a human brain to verify if the person is lying or not.
In science, evidence is preferred.
"All this information you cite to try to nullify what some of these scientists testimony"
==My point was that they are not working in climatology. They are in other fields.
Scientists tend to specialize in different topics.
When I read "500 leading scientists", I was surprised that so many researchers disagree bc up to this point, from what I have read, the data support global warming and the experts agree.
"And I do know which side is telling the truth because I own a copy of the book in which the world elites ADMITTED THEY MADE UP CLIMATE CHANGE AS A FALSE CRISIS"
==Well ok. I guess my question would be why do you believe that particular book?
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@nexusofice9135 :
"and that is the same statement that crazies give when they can't back up or support their "data" that they give. Welcome to the vicious cycle.
Care to offer any substantiated information? Or just continue on with the tin foil hat about "the big business threat"?"
==I'll try to find something.
Source:
https://scied.ucar.edu/carbon-dioxide-absorbs-and-re-emits-infrared-radiation
"While transparent to visible light, carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, absorbing and emitting infrared radiation at its two infrared-active vibrational frequencies (see the section "Structure and bonding" above). Light emission from the earth's surface is most intense in the infrared region between 200 and 2500 cm−1, as opposed to light emission from the much hotter sun which is most intense in the visible region. Absorption of infrared light at the vibrational frequencies of atmospheric carbon dioxide traps energy near the surface, warming the surface and the lower atmosphere. Less energy reaches the upper atmosphere, which is therefore cooler because of this absorption."
Source:
https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=35
"An enhanced greenhouse effect from CO2 has been confirmed by multiple lines of empirical evidence. Satellite measurements of infrared spectra over the past 40 years observe less energy escaping to space at the wavelengths associated with CO2. Surface measurements find more downward infrared radiation warming the planet's surface. This provides a direct, empirical causal link between CO2 and global warming."
"The greenhouse gas qualities of carbon dioxide have been known for over a century. In 1861, John Tyndal published laboratory results identifying carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas that absorbed heat rays (longwave radiation). Since then, the absorptive qualities of carbon dioxide have been more precisely quantified by decades of laboratory measurements (Herzberg 1953, Burch 1962, Burch 1970, etc)."
"This result has been confirmed by subsequent papers using more recent satellite data. The 1970 and 1997 spectra were compared with additional satellite data from the NASA AIRS satellite launched in 2003 (Griggs 2004). This analysis was extended to 2006 using data from the AURA satellite launched in 2004 (Chen 2007). Both papers found the observed differences in CO2 bands matching the expected changes from rising carbon dioxide levels. Thus we have empirical evidence that increased CO2 is causing an enhanced greenhouse effect."
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