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Comments by "" (@NeuroScientician) on "Whether Tanks Are Obsolete" video.
Tanks are obsolete because you no longer need a tan or jet to kill a tank reliably. You just need a guy with 15 minutes worth of training to kill 3 guys in a $2,000,000 machine. You can see in videos that dug in T90 just suddenly explodes, no one has any idea where the missile came from. Guy that fired it is in no danger at all. Bunch of conscripts just run in panic around. Most of T72/T90 Russia has, got no thermals, they tend to have the original 1970 night vision with max range around 300m. So, they cannot see the guy with NLAW at all. NLAW has high-res thermal, so does Javelin. It's an effective range thing.
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This is only useful in Gaza or Afghanistan, where your armoured box is simply indestructible. in Ukraine it is a very expensive box with no defensive capabilities, plenty of ways to take it out. 125mm gun with 10-20 rounds available and no decent night vision or comms. Once you fire, you know for sure that the enemy knows exactly where you are and that there is a $500 Chinese drone carrying a $10surprise on it's way to your location.
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@bobtank6318 Yep, that the thing, you need a ridiculously complex and expensive chain of equipment, training, people, supply and maintenance to make tanks somewhat beneficial. Tanks are not worth it. Russia is technologically 1970 and tactically 1930, nothing helps them.
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It can run on any liquid that you can set on fire, but at the cost of lots of maintenance.
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@tandemcharge5114 Yes, but that's how you control area. Russians do not control Cherson by having 10 tanks randomly dug in around its perimeter, they control Kherson by having 5000 troops inside the city. There is no replacement for infantry for this, and this is their core role. So, technically they aren't obsolete. A farmer with an AK is infantry. If you think about it, any group of guys with guns is pretty much infantry.
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@SavageJunky This really only works on friendly grounds where all the civilians are on your side (like in Ukraine), no one gives away your location, where is your missile battery camping through the day, etc. Taliban would suicide bomb individual trucks and all local villagers would be their spotters.
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@SavageJunky With enough missiles, yes. it can destroy an airport. Runways can be fixed fairly quickly, jets replaced. You really want to hit the bunker/building with pilots. Those are the only ones that matter. But Jet/Helis are usually based away from artillery range. With tanks, it is difficult, those suppose to be a front line element and be able to take hits.
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@bobtank6318 It does not provided protected firepower if it gets reliably killed with NLAW. Tank is just a very expensive blob of steel. '...mobile and protected heavy firepower to an army...' - only when the other side had no anti tank weapons, like Taliban or Palestinians.
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@bobtank6318 Trophy and jammers do not actually exist, smoke works only against 1970 TOW missiles and only when you know it is coming.
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@youraverageinternetuser150 Infantry are those who actually hold control locations. So, no. Point is that tank is pretty much a golden hammer at this point.
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@bobtank6318 IR blocking smokes and IR jammers only work against TOW from 1970, those aren't very relevant. Trophy is a wishful thinking for 2035.
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@tandemcharge5114 Tank cannot really seek enemies any more than a guy with a rocket, tank also cannot take damage from the rocket. Horses were in human warfare for like 3000 years, they are just irreplaceable.
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@bobtank6318 Trophy does not work, nor does Stora or any other active system. They cannot even intercept old RPGs like rpg 26 or 27, most of old RPGs fly too fast for active systems, that's why they aren't really deployed anywhere. They just don't work outside a lab. Also require multiple radar dishes to be installed on top of the tank. Those are made of plastic and very fragile. It works on YouTube but nowhere else. IR smoke works against 50 years old weapons. NLAW nor Jav need thermal to hit their target. Its only in the firing scope for operator to see his target. Laser illumination detection works only in good weather, won't work in rain or snow. And it misfires on a backscatter from its own systems. None of it works, never did. Reading out from sales leaflets won't make it any better.
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@bobtank6318 No they did not happen, Trophy failed in Israel, it could not impact anything beyond RPG7. It would not even register newer RPGs. It was returned to Rafael to be 'reworked'. Also, it could only fire once and then it has to be rebuilt, does not work in cities at all. It's a bullshit system IR smoke only works on old laser guided missiles. NLAW Operator does not get to see the smoke at all as distance is calculated after the firing sequence is initiated (aka missiles is fired). NLAW uses inertial system, smoke is irrelevant. Also, smoke is fired in front of the tank. With the idea of tank driving through it. It is useless when dug in. Most of these counter measures are placebo.
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