Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

  1. Both the Fiat Revelli 1914 and the Breda 37 were simple and effective.
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  2. The bolt handle doesn't serve as a locking lug. It's several mm distand from the rear bridge's face. Actually the Carcano barrel, bolt and receiver were made out of Czech "Poldhutte compressed steel" that were better regarded than Krupp steel at the time. That's why Carcano rifles had been converted to fire far more powerful ammos than the 6.5 it was originally designed for without any problem. This is from Dave Emary, Horandy's chief ballistic expert: "The materials used in the Carcano are excellent. These rifles were made from special steels perfected by the Czechs, for which the Italians paid royalties. If you have ever tried doing any work on a Carcano receiver you will find out just how hard and tough the steel is. The Carcano has also received a reputation as being a weak design. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Italians made a small run of Carcanos early in WW II chambered for 8 X 57 JS. The Germans rechambered some Carcanos to 8 X 57 JS late in WW II. These rifles were also proofed for this cartridge. The CIP minimum suggested proof pressure for the 8 x 57 JS cartridge is 73,500 psi. I hardly call this a weak action. The best case I can make for the strength of the Carcano was a personal experience attempting to blow one up for a hunter safety course video. I was asked by the Department of Game and Fish of New Mexico about 12 years ago to help them with this. At the time I was one of the ones ignorant about the Carcano, believing it to be a weak action and easy to take apart. Well, the morale to this story was a full case of Bullseye failed to do anything significant to the action or barrel. We finally had to fill a cartridge case with C4 explosive and detonate it to get anything that looked like what we wanted."
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  3. They were designed for volley fire, that's one formation firing to another formation, not to single targets. It didn't become a thing only because that work was ultimately done by machineguns. At 2000m a 6.5 Carcano bullet still delivers more energy than a .44 magnum at the muzzle.
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  4. Those were intended for volley fire, that's a formation firing to another formation, not to single targets. All the fifles of the time had been built thinking to that possibility. In the end it didn't become a thing because that job had been done by machineguns. At 2km a 6.5mm Carcano bullet still delivers more energy than a .44 magnum at the muzzle.
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  5. Any FMJ rifle cartridge can do that. It's due to the hydraulic shock. The same that causes the temporary cavity on wounds. In skull there isn't space for the temporary cavity to form, so the result is the explosion of the skull itself.
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  6. Cavalry charges were still a thing (cavalry had been made obsolete more by machinegun than bolt action rifles) and the defense against cavalry charges required the rifles to double as spears, so long rifles and long blades, to make them even longer.
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  7. 1891. Il fascismo era di là da venire.
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  8. The main part (few hundreds BTW. The OVP had always been a rare gun. The Beretta MAB 18 was far more common) of the OVP had been transferred to Italian East African colonies first than WWII, and had been used there in the first stages of the conflict.
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  9. The live round simply fell off in between of the normal cycle due to a worn out (100 years old) magazine spring and gravity. You need spring tension to keep rounds in place in a downward looking double-feed magazine.
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  10. Probably the magazine spring weakened. You need spring tension to retain ammos in a downward magazine.
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  11. +Luuuukich The 9mm parabellum is not a "far superior caliber". Ballistically a 9mm Glisenti projectile at the muzzle has the same speed of a 9mm Para projectile fired from 30 meters away. Since 9mm Para projectiles are lethal well over 100 m distance, the difference at tipical pistol distance engagement is negligible.
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  12. Err... no, The Steyr 1912 is a semiauto pistol, not a SMG or a machinepistol. The name you are afraid to write, because it'll expose how clueless you are is Repetierpistole M1912/P16, that's BASED on the Steyr 1912 pistol, but was adopted in 1916 (with a 16 round magazine). The Villar Perosa had been adopted in 1915, and is not based on anything existing before. It's not a pistol with the disconnector removed. So, other than having been adopted before, it had a longer development time. So no, Austrians didn't start experimenting with machine pistols first than the Italians delivered the first true SMG, and your insulting others only exposes your lack of arguments more. Sorry, but, even with the 32 rounds drum magazine, the Lange Pistole 08 was not capable of full auto fire. The first full auto capable versions of the C96 appeared only in the '20s. So, another time, you don't know what you are talking about. Obviously you can remove the disconnector to any semiautomatic weapon and obtain a full auto one, but "experimenting with machinepistols" is another thing than doing bubba works in a garage. Maybe you could have seemed less clueless even being only capable to google, had you know how to do it.
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  13. How? What's this machine pistol the Austrian started to experiment first than the Italians? Name it and prove me wrong.
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  14. I can do better than google. Thanks.
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  15. BTW notice that the Villar Perosa adopted in 1915 what CMMG just proudly patented as "radial delayed blowback".
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  16. The Villar Perosa was adopted and fielded in 1915. The Austrian copied the Villar Perosa design. First with the Frommer Stop M.17 (two full-auto Frommer Stop pistols mountged upside-down on a tripod ) then with the Sturmpistole M18 (a straight Villar Perosa copy).
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  17. The Villar Perosa had NEVER been designed for aircraft. Unfortunately Ian's previous video contributed to spread this old tale, but it's evident from all the paperwork, relations, manual, ecc... that it was originally meant to be a field light machinegun. It and had later been adapted to aerial use in very limited numbers, simply because the Army destined the first 350 samples manufactured to the aviation (that was a branch of the Army at that time) because they wanted it to be in full production first to start to distribute it to the troops.
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  18. It wasn't meant to be an aircraft mounted MG. It and had been adapted to aerial use in very limited numbers, simply because the Army destined the first 350 samples manufactured to the Aviation (that was a branch of the Army at that time) because they wanted it to be in full production first to start to distribute it to the troops. It was meant to be a point weapon. Like a long range shotgun. See the enemy, fill it's position with a dozen projectiles. Pretty useful to guard bottlenecks in the barbed wires or in alpine trails.
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  19. For what advantage over the MAS49/56? The problem of this, or any other battle rifle in 7.62 NATO, for the French, is that it had practically no advantage over what they already had. When the Italians switched form the M1 Garand to the BM59 (that was a modification of the Garand, not a new rifle) the gained the detachable magazine, grenade launcher with gas cutoff, compensator, bipod... it was worth the price. But the MAS 49/56 already had the detachable magazine, grenade launcher with gas cutoff and compensator.
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  20. Striker requires less parts. The trigger group is simpler. On the other hand, for the same weight, it delivers less energy (it accelerates for a shorter distance) so it must be heavier and use an heavier spring.
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  21. As SIG already experimented, trying to make the SIG 530 roller delayed, to make a delayed blowback 5.56X45 is really difficult. There's a too close tolerance between not enough delay and too much delay. To have reliable extracion without case separation the FAMAS F1 had to use steel cased ammos. Later they managed to tune it better, and the FAMAS G2 could fire any kind of ammo.
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  22. This is way better than the Double Eagle, but the Double Eagle was aimed at the market of those that liked the 1911, but wanted a DA/SA one (since that was all the rage then), and this can't pass for a 1911 design. We know there wasn't really a market like that, but Colt thought there was one. The All-American 2000 instead was only an ugly and poorly made attempt at entering into the polymer, striker-fired, guns market.
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  23. There had been several. Korth, H&K P9, Geiger GRP... Germans seems to be particularly attracted by roller-delayed mechanisms.
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  24. Effectiveness of shaped charges depends on diameter of the charge itself. A sub 11mm shaped charge (because the charge has to be contained) is not gonna do anything that a AP ammo doesn't do simpler and better.
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  25. Franchi made a .30 Carbine weapon in competition with this one (the FL-58) and then a bigger version in 7.62 Nato (the LF-59).
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  26. Actually Italian Carabinieri adopted the M1. The gas system is clearly similar, while receiver and bolt are completely different.
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  27. It doesn't seem to be required infact.
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  28.  @2Potates  You can exactly reply a 7.62mm ballistic with a 7mm bullet having 20% less recoil and overall weight of the cartridge. But the fans of the 7.62 will always say that the heavier bullet will have better penetration against hard materials and pierce bigger holes into soft tissues.
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  29. The ballistic of the 7.62X51 was a false target. The 7.62x51 was a very good design for the time for it's intended purpose. It's ballistic couldn't be replied by a round without making it uncontrollable in full auto (apart for the engineering marvel that was the 7.92X41 CETME). It was a question of deciding what they wanted. Or full auto controllability, or long range accuracy and power.
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  30. The Italians 129 Years ago, 6.5X52.
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  31.  @Predator42ID  Browning's system is not the only one used today.
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  32. Infact "cartridges of the world" credit it of an energy barely above that of a .380 ACP. If that's the case, the gun is neat, but seriously overweight and overengineered.
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  33. It's comparable to the Italian Navy adopting the Mauser C96 in 1899 (first large contract for that gun). While it took to the Army another 11 years to adopt a semiauto. The Army use much more of those weapons, and uses much more avery one of them, so, they have to think more about logistic and economy. For the Navy, in respect to the cost of just one of their floating toys, the price of few thousands handguns is immaterial.
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  34. A machinegun that shoots pistol ammunitions. The Italian and German definitions ("pistola mitragliatrice", "machinepistole" so "pistol-machinegun") are more fitting.
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  35. This is the father of the Walther.
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  36.  @jeromevuarand3768  All the pins holting the trigger group parts are simple rivets.
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  37. The contrary. This had been made before.
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  38. 1957 happened before 1961.
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  39. The LF-57 costs much less. The MP5 is used by a lot of special units and small armies of rich nations. The LF-57 was studied to be a mass produced weapon for standard troops.
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  40. Blueing on case hardened parts. Due to the composition of steel, some turn reddish with time.
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  41. The Armaguerra 39 was adopted, but too late to be produced in numbers.
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  42. Given the dimension of what this gun is destined to hit, few centimetres to the side makes no difference. The same with LMGs like the Bren. They are not precision rifles, and, to a man-sized target, the effect of the offset is negligible.
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  43. So they managed to screw a design so simple that many people and resistance movements managed to manufacture functioning samples in their box. Chose the wrong magazine, Made a SMG difficult to cock thanks to the absence of the charging handle, made two serrations in front of the bolt to try cocking it, but didn't manage to make a real telescopic bolt. "interesting".
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  44. The Double Eagle, like the Seecamp conversion, is made on a standard 1911 frame, not with this extra-high frame.
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  45. Benelli B76. It has an unique push-type (the trigger pushes the transfer bar, like in a SA pistol) DA trigger.
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  46. A double actiion weapon, carried with one in the chamber and the hammer down (condition two), doesn't need any safety. It fires when you pull the trigger. A SA weapon, before firing, needs or to pull the slide (from condition three), or to rise the hammer (from condition two) or to switch out the safety (from condition one). So at least another action that, in a stressful situation, can simply be forgotten (and it happens MUCH more frequently than one tend to think).
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  47.  @workinmanworkinman3889  It's not your comment section. Learn what a battle rifle is.
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  48. It has been "proven"? LOL!
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  49. Considered that the M45A1 samples tested broke the slide before 12.000 rounds...
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  50. All the most iconic JMB's designs benefited form a long development process, with feedbacks from the client, that generally greatly improved them. The 1911 is the result of 10 years of improvements. All the ergonomic bits that make it so comfortable and pleasant to shoot had been added during that, and also the take down had been simplified, thus remaining quite complicate. Other contemporary designs didn't benefit of the same treatment, since they had been adopted right after the design was completed. To give an example, the Steyr M1912 was potentially a great design but, not having been improved beyond the original model, it remains "weird" in many respects.
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