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@lairdcummings9092 It's simply the way to have a 50 rounds magazine in an era when a simply staggered 50 rounds magazine would have been unreliable.
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This MG has very few parts actually, even by modern standards. They are big. Like any industrial tool design of the time. In WWI only the Hotchkiss was simpler.
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Actually this is a simple action even by modern standards. In WWI, only the Hotchkiss was simpler than this.
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It was adopted and widely used. Actually this is a simple action even by modern standards. In WWI, only the Hotchkiss was simpler than this.
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@robertpacific8319 You'll have exactly the same problem with an M60 or a SAW. As already said,the part count of this MG is low even by modern standards, and the parts being big facilitate disasembly and reassembly. Do you really think that to reassemble am MG42-MG3, so praised for its simplicity, is easier? Have you ever seen of how much parts only the bolt is made? Not by chance, of all the WWI MGs, only this action had been scaled down to pistol dimensions. (is still used on the FN five-seven and ruger 57).
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@PapaSchultz74 The tool was provided. but it was not supposed to be used during action. To load magazines was an activity to do during rest time.
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Only loaded magazines were supposed to reach the first line, like only loaded belts. To manually reload the magazines of this gun during the action was like to manually reload the cloth belt of a Maxim.
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@rookpl7877 You are welcome!
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It's a short recoil breechlock. The locking block keeps the barrel and the bolt linked togheter during their rearward movement, until it rotates out of the way. It work exactly like a Browning 1917-1919, but the locking block rotates instead of falling.
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@tiortedrootsky Despite the fluted chamber being originally a patent of Giovannino Agnelli, owner of Fiat, no version of the Fiat Revelli 1914 had a fluted chamber, nor is known for case separation issues.
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@tiortedrootsky Bolt and barrel are locked even if the bolt retreats slightly faster than the barrel, because their relative movements are geometrically determined. You can shape the locking block to avoid any relative movement before separation, but that would actually be a minus. The slight movement provides primary extraction that prevents a too abrupt separation of the case from the chamber (that's indifferent for a pistol, but important for a bottleneck rifle cartridge).
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The locking block locks the gun and bolt rigidly until it rotates out of the way.
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The Type 11 was simply flawed. This was not really worse than any cloth-belt fed MG of the time.
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Actually several LMGs adopted the Revelli action. It was infact scalable down until pistol dimensions (the FN Five-Seven and the Ruger 57 still adopt it).
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@nonamesplease6288 There were tested 50 rounds magazines at the time?
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Among WWI machineguns, only the Hotchkiss is marginally simpler than this.
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Infact this was simpler. Canvas belt, other than a lot of other problems, means that the MG has to extract the round backward form the belt, and then push it into the chamber. That added a lot of complexity to any belt-fed WWI MG design. In WWI, among the heavy MGs, only the Hotchkiss (a strip-fed design) was simpler than the FIAT.
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Actually this is a simple action even by modern standards. In WWI, only the Hotchkiss was simpler than this.
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? Actually this is a simple action even by modern standards. In WWI, only the Hotchkiss was simpler than this.
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@TheArklyte It's not like canvas belt have less problems. They carry dirt into the mechamism, they can present the cartridge in wrong position, they get wet and wet the cartridges, they stretch and shrink due to the weather, they easily get damaged, they requires more time to be changed... and if one damaged belt causes feeding issues, you have to discard an entire belt instead of a single magazine. How many more "ifs" were there? You are only more used to see belts, but canvas belts became obsolete, magazines didn't. Actually the mechanism is composed of few parts even for current standards. In WWI only the Hotchkiss (not by chance, another not-belt-fed mechanism) was simpler.
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@firepower7017 Carcano rifles had been used in recent conflicts. You use everything if you have nothing better available.
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@zoiders and that's the end of your attempt to provide some real argument.
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Actually this is a simple action even by modern standards. In WWI, only the Hotchkiss was simpler than this. For a water cooled MG, open or closed bolt is indifferent. The Browning 1917-1919 too fired from a closed bolt.
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@SoWe1 At 1:48, the small red arrow points to the point where the locking block is in contact with the barrel extension. At 1:50 the locking block rotates enough to disengage bolt and barrel.
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It's a short recoil breechlock. The locking block keeps the barrel and the bolt linked togheter during their rearward movement, until it rotates out of the way. It work exactly like a Browning 1917-1919, but the locking block rotates instead of falling.
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6.5 Carcano in WWI Then 8mm Breda (Fiat Revelli 1914/35, belt fed).
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The BAR MKIII action has nothing in common with the original BAR. In particular, it has a rotating bolt, and not a tilting bolt like the original. The tilting bolt was a good part of the reason why the original BAR couldn't be lightened further than the Monitor model.
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Not said, but the BAR was also a pain in the ass to strip field even for basic manteinance, that infact was often lacking.
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To see it firing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZNfSqY1A8
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To see it firing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZNfSqY1A8
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The ban of military calibers for civilians is not meant to "control population" or to "don't give them too powerful military cartridges" (infact civilians can purchase firearms in more powerful cartridges). It's meant to control armed forces. To not allow soldiers and policemen to privately purchase ammos for their service weapons.
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There are several clips of the shotgun being loaded and firing. ;)
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Long recoil actions tend to be quite clean, but in the Cosmi the entire action can be extracted pressing a button, for ease of cleaning.
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You can open it, load it and close it.
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I think the 92 series (1976) had been the first CAD designed gun at Beretta.
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That kind of safety worked pretty well with M1 Garand, M14 and BM59. The only real downside of the one of the Vektor in respect to that of those rifles is that those automatically warned the shooter of them being engaged (since the lever was very close to the trigger) while the Vektor one doesn't, but that's in common with any pistol safety out there.
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@slthbob And still you are incapable of talking about firearms, and demonstrating that you are the one seeking for attention. You are pretty funny BTW. Keep on.
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@slthbob And still you are incapable of talking about the matter. Unfortunately all that you are pointing out is your ignorance.
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@slthbob So you are talking about medicine now? Think that, at this point, with a little studying, you could have been able to discern the stock from the muzzle.
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@slthbob And you are still are incapable of talking about firearms. You prefer to talk about colors now.
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@slthbob And you still are incapable of talking about firearms. At this point you could have learned something.
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@slthbob Sorry, but I explained my point. You, instead, preferred to talk about Santa Claus.
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@slthbob Sorry, but I explained my point. You, instead, preferred to talk about the sun.
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@slthbob Nothing goes on inside the bolt, sorry, and the AR15 isn't a gas delayed blowback system in any way (between the AR15 and a gas delayed system there is a further gradation, the "gas unlocked blowback action", like that used by the HS.404 and the Scotti MGs). In the AR15, when the gas pushes the bolt carrier rearward, the bolt is simply solidal to the barrel. The AR15 is a direct impingment action because the bolt carrier is directly pushed by the gas, and nothing else. There is NOTHING that mediates between the expansion of the gas and the bolt carrier. Obviously you can obtain it with different shapes of the bolt and the bolt carrier, like piston action can have different shapes of the bolt and the bolt carrier.
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It trades mass for speed. To accelerate a mass to double the speed in the same time, you need four times the energy, so introducing a lever that accelerates the carrier in respect to the bolt face, you need less weight than in a pure blowback system. .
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There is a strange fascination between Germans (or Swiss-Germans) and roller locked-delayed.
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There are several manufacturers of picatinny rails for the 70/90 (this is the closer to the original "Terni arsenal" one of the Italian Army https://www.dccsoftair.eu/slitte-fucili/1299-attacco-picatinny-rail-per-ar7090-defcon5.html ), and at least one manufacturer of a quad picatinny front handguard ( https://www.dccsoftair.eu/ris-armi/1917-ris-quad-rail-picatinny-x-ar7090-defcon5.html ). They are quite expensive tough.
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"...and then they realized the rifle they were about to deliver to the troops was garbage, and decided to buy FAMAS instead", or "and decided to buy the Steyr AUG instead, and they lived happily ever after"
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It's like it's not enough for a rifle to be an high quality firearm with a reliable and clean action. It needs a reason for "not being an AR15".
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The 5 rounds limit is for hunting. Sporting rifles' magazines can have up to 29 rounds. It only depends on how the rifle is classified.
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