Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

  1. Beretta already used vertec grips on the Egyptian contract Beretta M1951 (that's the 92's direct ancestor). It was really not a novelity.
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  2. It's simply him pulling it down. You can see the first three rounds rising the muzzle, then reflexes makes him pulling it down even too much.
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  3. @Suzukisan Quantity, not quality.
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  4. TheKoba49 has a series of great videos on gunsmithing the Carcano rifles in 6.5 and 7.35, casting lead bullets for them and shooting them. Check for him.
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  5. The Western Cartridge Company 6.5mm are probably the best 6.5X52 Carcano ammos ever made. They have the correct dimensions and the correct construction (Carcano projectiles are not cylindrical, but slowly tapering toward the front and are opened at the bottom, that way the projectile can seat nicely in the deep rifling of the barrel without displacing too much material), but used post-WWII manufacturing and propellants, so they were more consistent than the Italian military ones.
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  6. To need an hammer to open the bolt is a sign of overpressure.
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  7. Cause 7.35 barrel had between the lands exactly the dimension that 6.5 barrels had between the grooves. That means that they could obtain brand new barrels simply shortening and reboring millions of worn out 6.5 barrels they had in the arsenals since the end of WWI.
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  8. In the economy of WWII to have the best rifle was as important as to have the best shoelaces. BTW, when the enemy have 4-5 times the weapons you have it doesn't count if they are good or bad.
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  9. They generally had problems of quantity, not of quality.
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  10. We don't know if the optic was zeroed or not. The iron sights surely were.
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  11. Vladimir Grigoryevich Fyodorov (later the desigher of the Fedorov Avtomat) recognised that already witnessing the battles of the Russo-Japanese war.
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  12. That the rifle is still working when any semiauto had already given up.
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  13. Any long firearm can hit a human-sized target at 80m max. Even a pistol can do it. Oswald's Carcano was as accurate as a brand new M14. That's nothing to write home about for a bolt action rifle, but more than enough for the job. There had not been any magic bullet. Oswald's second shot flew almost straight from the barrel to Connally's wrist. Only then, being very slow at that point, deviated to hit the leg.
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  14. Some decades ago, when Carcano milsurp rounds were abundant and cheap, and 7.62X39 were unobtanium in the US, cartriges for the AK were obtained shortening the Carcano cases.
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  15.  @charleswesley9907  I posted the extract from the autopsy. There was a 6x15mm (it's obvious that the tenth of mm had not been taken into account) wound on his skin. that doesn't say anything on the bore of the bullet.
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  16.  @charleswesley9907  The entry hole in the skull had never been measured. Only the external wound. It was of "6X15mm". Obviously they didn't measure the tenth of mm. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0283a.htm
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  17. The Carcano was 6.5mm, and you don't measure the width of the hole in a body. Actually is not possible to forensically determine if a person had been shot by a 9mm or a .45 if you don't find the bullet.
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  18. Prvi Partizan ammos are .264 in diameter (even less sometimes) while the correct diameter would be .266-.267, so it's difficult to have a good accuracy with them, unless with later barrels in really pristine conditions. The brass is great however.
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  19. Oswald was not a professional sniper. That was simply his rifle. When he bought it, he didn't think to hit the President from the 6th floor of a book depository. Fortunately for him, it was a fairly easy shot. A good shot could have done it with a pistol. Had military rifles not been able to hit slowly moving human-sized targets at 80m, WWI would have been fought with bows and arrows.
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  20. Because they were thinking of replacing the Carcano with semiautos, or even with select fire rifles, since the end of WWI (See the Terni 1921, for which four different intermediate cartridges were developed, and then the experimental semiauto models of the '30s), and, when it was clear that there were not funds for that, they decided to switch to spitzer 7.35X51. In the end WWII begun too early, and they found themself stuck with the same ammos of WWI.
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  21. Yeah. He was killed by the 6.5 version.
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  22. Absolutely not.
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  23. The Western Cartridge 6.5x52mm ammos Oswald used are probably the best Carcano ammunitions ever made. They had the correct dimensions and construction (the open bottom of the cartridge was important to make it seat in the deep rifling of the Carcano), but used modern propellant and manufacturing methods.
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  24.  @chapiit08  That had nothing to do with Communists. Fascism created a completely inefficient army logistic, filled with corruption and people that reach their position due to how well they licked the boots of their superiors.
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  25.  @Rammkommando  Italian standard troops were not well trained, and that affected their combat performances, while "special" units (Alpini, Bersaglieri, paratroopers, tank crews, artillery...), that had better training, performed admirably. Former Italian infantry soldiers that transitioned to other nations' units (IE those that joined the Waffen SS after the 1943 armistice) always remarked how better and more effective the training was. I remember a veteran stating "before I joined the SS, none told me what to do if a hand grenade was tossed in my direction".
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  26.  @robosoldier11  The problem with Italian field equipment was of quantity, not of quality. Every WWII army had a mix of issued items, some very good, some good, some decent, some subpar. The BAR, IE, was an abysmal LMG, but the US could simply "throw more BAR at the problem". The ubiquitous 47/32 Mod. 1935 cannon was as good an AT gun as the as the 3,7 cm PaK 36 and Ordnance QF 2 lb, with the advantage to have anti-personnel HE shells also. Problem was that often it had ONLY HE shells provided. Later in the war, all those guns had been made obsolete by new tank models. The Cannone da 75/32 Mod. 1937 was as good as the German 7,5 cm PaK 97/38, but, again, it had been made in little quantities.
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  27. Western Cartridge Co. ammunitions that had been specifically made for 6.5 Carcano, with the correct size and the correct construction of the bullet (the back of the bullet was not jacketed, like in the Italian military ammos, that helps to seat the bullet correctly in the deep rifling of the Carcano rifle).
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  28. WWI European experience in WWI was almost the same. Practically no soldier adjusted the sight. Not that it would be of any benefit, since 99% of the rifle exchanges were done under 100m distance.
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  29. Nowadays Steinel sells complete ammos and spare bullets of the correct dimensions for fairly cheap.
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  30.  @thefreese1  If you want to shoot the 6.5 Carcano using a round nose 160gr projectile, Steinel makes very good and accurate rounds of the correct dimensions that allow you to use the original sights. If you want to shoot a spitzer (but at that point the rifle will shoot high, if you don't rise the front blade) PPU makes 123 and 139 grain spitzers of the correct dimensions (but only for reload. PPU complete carcano rounds use .264 diameter bullets). Obviously, with the large V-notch sight, you'll never reach match accuracy. It had been made for rapid target acquisition, not for range shooting.
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  31. Mind that the 6.5 Swed., until 1941, used round nose bullets whose performances were practically the same than the 6.5 Carcano (156 gr bullet at 725 m/s vs. 162 gr bullet at 700 m/s). Also the spitzer adopted since 1941 was pretty far from modern 6.5 Creedmor performances (140 gr bullet at 800 m/s. A carcano load launching a 140gr spitzer would obtain similar results). Modern reloaders push the cartridge to the limit, or even overload it.
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  32. Really not.
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  33. Original Italian 7.35 Carcano were zeroed at 200m. The Finns required them to be set at 150m first to be delivered.
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  34. It's far cheaper to cast lead bullets of the correct size and weight. Privates doesn't need to comply with the hague convention.
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  35. They recovered one nearly pristine bullet, the easily recognizable pieces of another, and three used brass. Oswald used ammo made by Western Cartridge Co. Those had the correct size and construction of the bullet, and used modern propellants. The tests on the rifle had been made by the Army experts using the same ammo.
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  36. It's more than the kennedy thing influenced the reputation. Since LHO shooting had to be impossible (to justify the conspirancy theory), the rifle had to be junk.
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  37. You are talking about the 91/38 Carbine. 451mm (17.75 inches) barrel lenght.
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  38. 1 Danish Krone per year per rifle would have been practically a "symbolic" payment.
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  39.  @DebatingWombat  The choice of Denmark had been to stick with a rifle everyone else phased out. The choice of others had been to adopt a battle rifle. The BM59 was a battle rifle. Again, prerequisite for the BM59 to be a cheap solution, is to have M1 Garands to modify. Denmark had them. I never said they were searching for something. I said it would have been a pragmatic decision. The US didn't stick with the M1 Garand. Italy didn't take a different path. Italy adopted a battle rifle. Denmark took a different path not adopting one until 1977 (when they were already becoming outdated).
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  40.  @DebatingWombat  Again, I know what Ian said, that's why I specified "in the early '60s". I't pretty obvious Danish decided to do differently. US moved form the M1 Garand to the M14. Again, prerequisite for the BM59 to be a cheap solution, is to have M1 Garands to modify. Denmark had them. Denmark didn't adopt the solution of its "northern neighbours" also. It remained with a pattern that none was using any more. "Had Denmark bought into a Beretta solution", they would have had a serviceable battle rifle for all the time needed to adopt a serviceable assault rifle. The possibility to have spare part for them was EXACTLY the same than to have spare parts for the M1 Garand. Sticking with the Garand they would have had no upgrades at all, since the BM59 was THE upgrade for the M1 Garand. In mid to late '60 the BM59 was still not a worse battle rifle than the G3. It was still not a worse battle rifle than the G3 in mid to late '90s for that matter.
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  41.  @DebatingWombat  The BM59 is not a new rifle. Is a modification of existing rifles. It doesn't need the tooling needed to manufacture new rifles. Prerequisite for the BM59 to be a cheap solution, is to have M1 Garands to modify. Denmark had them.
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  42.  @DebatingWombat  Being a modification of existing rifles, the BM59 was the cheapest solution by far (in 1962 it costed $42 per rifle) and, if you didn't want even those limited money to exit from your country, it didn't require the domestic arms producer to retool to produce new rifles of whatever model.
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  43.  @DebatingWombat  I said in the early '60. A that time, battle rifles were not on their way out. They had just been adopted. And the BM59 was no inferior to the FAL and the G3. It had some advantage actually. The use of the battle rifle as an occasional LMG is not due to the fact that you lack actual LMGs, but to the fact that the LMG gunner (or the SAW gunner) not always is in the best position to do its job, or can reach it. A battle rifle with a bipod and a muzzle brake / compensator can OCCASIONALLY replace it and spare some life. Knowing that you have such a possibility also gives to your squad more elasticity. The conversion job could have been done by Madsen. The pragmatic choice, if you don't have to fight a war, would be to not have an army, fact is that you don't know if you'll have to fight a war. Fact is that, until 1973, the Danish government run it's military on a VERY strict budget. That's why only then they started to look around for a new rifle.
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  44.  @jameshealy4594  Full auto 7.62 makes sense if it comes with a bipod and a muzzle-brake / compensator (a la BM59). That way the rifle can be used as an occasional LMG.
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  45.  @andersjjensen  Did you have a blank-firing adapter (a device put on the muzzle of the barrel when blank firing, so to enhance the pressure generated by blank cartridges)? Without that, it's a miracle it cycled at all.
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  46. Only if you can make the job done with a single magazine. if not, With the Beretta you can carry far more rounds for the same weight, and change magazines much faster.
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  47. Infact the Luftwaffe faced the same problem and came out with the 9X18mm Ultra (that was a ballistic copy of the 9mm Glisenti) as the most powerful round that could be fired by a blowback pistol mantaining weight advantages over a short recoil one. However, "less than 25 ounces" for a 9mm, Luger, Ultra, or Glisenti, was simply an unrealistic request in 1949. It needed at least 30 ounches / 850 grams to have a functional gun, blowback or short recoil actuated.
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  48. Every round can be fired by a simple blowback system. Even 20mm AA cartridges are fired that way. Is only a question of weight of the bolt. Somewere between the .380 and the 9mm Luger, the required increase in the weight of the bolt/slide "outweight" the gain in reducing the moving parts, and blowback handguns tend to be heavier than short recoil / delayed blowback ones. The 9mm Glisenti, 9X18 mm Ultra and 9mm Makarov are often considered the limit over which is no more convenient to use simple blowback systems.
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  49. and the 9X18mm Ultra was nothing more than a 9mm Glisenti (used in blowback Beretta 1915 and 1923) in a 1mm shorter case (to avoid a 9mm Para being chambered by mistake), but before that John Moses Browning designed, for the FN Model 1903, the 9mm Browning long, as the more powerful 9mm round you can use in a blowback gun without having weight disadvantages over a breechlock design (while he designed the .380 acp as the ideal 9mm round for pocket guns and the .38 ACP as the ideal for breechlock designs). All those rounds (9mm Browning Long, 9mm Glisenti, 9mm Ultra, 9mm Makarov) are in the same ballpark energy-wise.
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  50. The project is neat for being something made for fun, but, since he was at it, it's weird that he simply didn't rotate the M14 gas system 180° so to have the gas piston at hour 12. That way he could have mantained the entire AR15 lower as it was.
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